Seoul

[KgirlPower]

With online business for sex workers and tech savy hookers and agencies and more professionals with higher income visiting.

RLDs days are numbered. Maybe 30 yrs ago when no internet and officetels etc it was booming but those days are gone.

Went for a daytime stroll on the Hill this holiday Monday and made some interesting observations.

*there is now a trans bar smack in the middle of hooker hill (along with the small collection at the top of the hill).

*counted no less than 4 vacancy notices on doors and windows while walking down. Strong chance trans might take over these.

*so many more "civilians" (particularly younger females and couples) walking up and down the hill these days.

*there are now more trans bars in the general area (international street, hooker and homo hill, the road that leads to all three), than there are bars with actual working women.

Looks like this may be golden times for those who are into trans women. I wonder where the women that regularly staffed hooker hill have moved on to and what they're doing now.

With the big USFK relocatioon coming up, are HH preparations being made for Pyeongtaek? Or are the women simply retiring / moving on for good?

[RainMania]

Went for a daytime stroll on the Hill this holiday Monday and made some interesting observations.

*there is now a trans bar smack in the middle of hooker hill (along with the small collection at the top of the hill).

*counted no less than 4 vacancy notices on doors and windows while walking down. Strong chance trans might take over these.

*so many more "civilians" (particularly younger females and couples) walking up and down the hill these days.

*there are now more trans bars in the general area (international street, hooker and homo hill, the road that leads to all three), than there are bars with actual working women.

Looks like this may be golden times for those who are into trans women. I wonder where the women that regularly staffed hooker hill have moved on to and what they're doing now.

With the big USFK relocatioon coming up, are HH preparations being made for Pyeongtaek? Or are the women simply retiring / moving on for good?

[SeoulSex]

Absolutely. The internet is mostly to blame for the state of the market.

The golden rule for everyone reading this is to never entice a SP with more pay. They should entice them with the promise of another visit. Whenever I follow through with that promise especially when I ask for them by name, the look on their face is priceless and they treat me like a VIP.

[RainMania]

I see a lot of posts here asking if anyone here knows a good this or a good that. The problem is whenever anyone outs the great services to all the morons on the internet who only think with their little heads and pay inflated fees or tips, the rates start going up and we end up paying 120,000￦+ for services we could get for 70,000&; just two years ago.

I have been frequenting two places for the past seven months and you know I am keeping it under wraps. One hyugetel that is run by a fit older SP. You would never guess she had two kids because of how slender, sexy, and tremendously fun she is. The location is a bit out of the way but I get an hour long cat bath, AR, BJ, FS for 100,000. She even offers bareback, but I always decline (only common sense). When she is not available, I get a sweet 20 year old from the same building who treats me like her boyfriend coming back from the military. Cat bath, BBBJ, CFS, cuddling, and DFK (after inspection). Again, 100,000; for an hour or 80,000; for 30 minutes. Occasionally if I cum too fast, she even lets me pop twice.

Of course I know the day I expose them online is the day all my fun comes to an end. It will create more demand and they will raise their rates. Or even worse, some amateur will overpay by 200% and set a bad precedent for the market.

My point is to go explore for yourself. There is sex everywhere. If one place looks rough or they are overcharging, move on to the place down the street. Once you frequent a place enough and build a friendly business relationship with the SP you will get better service. And if you keep your mouth shut about it, we can all collectively keep more money in our wallets.

Some tips for HGT / KR / BBS:

(1) If you become familiar and charming with them, SPs will trust you over frequent visits and provide you with riskier service. They may also mention you to their coworker which may be useful in the future.

(2) Understand that this is a business. Repeat customers are great for them. Let them know that you will come frequently if they treat you well and base your relationship on that.

(3) Learn Korean. Even the simplest coherent sentence or compliment can be charming and can completely change the mood.

(4) Search near college cities for SPs.

(5) don't be afraid to travel around the city. The place I frequent is a 10 minute walk from a station I had never visited before. For starters, try subway stations that aren't on a green or blue line.

(6) Know the rates and be ready to walk away when you are being screwed over.

(7) If you like an SP, ask for her name and what days she works. Then ask for her whenever you visit.

We're fighting a losing battle on this, but the best we can do is to continue giving these tips.

Things have become so bad that Thai and Filipina girls are flying over to Seoul for short holidays where they charge $200+ per shot to gullible punters. 99% of those girls couldn't even make that kind of money for an overnight back in their countries, but too many foreigners in Korea thinking with their dicks and not their brains.

Had a brief email convo with one that was advertising on CL recently. She quoted me $200 per hour. I declined. She countered by informing me her rates are negotiable (as always LOL). I told her what I expected from a $200 punt. BBBJ, CIM, multiple shots, all in the 1 HR. No response from her LOL.

Heck, even the white girls on MR are now offering sub $200 rates (170-180 k at last check), I won't be trying them out, but I hope this trend will carry on.

The more desperate and clueless guys act, the more expensive and shitty the service will be.

[RainMania]

Those hands are something and what's in the bottle?

LM

None of you would have noticed the hands without the flash anyway LOL.

That's her lube bottle.

[SeoulSex]

I see a lot of posts here asking if anyone here knows a good this or a good that. The problem is whenever anyone outs the great services to all the morons on the internet who only think with their little heads and pay inflated fees or tips, the rates start going up and we end up paying 120,000￦+ for services we could get for 70,000&; just two years ago.

I have been frequenting two places for the past seven months and you know I am keeping it under wraps. One hyugetel that is run by a fit older SP. You would never guess she had two kids because of how slender, sexy, and tremendously fun she is. The location is a bit out of the way but I get an hour long cat bath, AR, BJ, FS for 100,000. She even offers bareback, but I always decline (only common sense). When she is not available, I get a sweet 20 year old from the same building who treats me like her boyfriend coming back from the military. Cat bath, BBBJ, CFS, cuddling, and DFK (after inspection). Again, 100,000; for an hour or 80,000; for 30 minutes. Occasionally if I cum too fast, she even lets me pop twice.

Of course I know the day I expose them online is the day all my fun comes to an end. It will create more demand and they will raise their rates. Or even worse, some amateur will overpay by 200% and set a bad precedent for the market.

My point is to go explore for yourself. There is sex everywhere. If one place looks rough or they are overcharging, move on to the place down the street. Once you frequent a place enough and build a friendly business relationship with the SP you will get better service. And if you keep your mouth shut about it, we can all collectively keep more money in our wallets.

Some tips for HGT / KR / BBS:

(1) If you become familiar and charming with them, SPs will trust you over frequent visits and provide you with riskier service. They may also mention you to their coworker which may be useful in the future.

(2) Understand that this is a business. Repeat customers are great for them. Let them know that you will come frequently if they treat you well and base your relationship on that.

(3) Learn Korean. Even the simplest coherent sentence or compliment can be charming and can completely change the mood.

(4) Search near college cities for SPs.

(5) don't be afraid to travel around the city. The place I frequent is a 10 minute walk from a station I had never visited before. For starters, try subway stations that aren't on a green or blue line.

(6) Know the rates and be ready to walk away when you are being screwed over.

(7) If you like an SP, ask for her name and what days she works. Then ask for her whenever you visit.

[Member #4471]

No offense but those are some ugly ass hands.

Those hands are something and what's in the bottle?

LM

[KgirlPower]

Pretty much kissing and bareback is like the ultimate dream service that most guys want cause its hard service to find as like you girls hate doing it but some do it out of necessity as if that's what the market or location they are working demands it. In US if a kgirl doesn't offer at least kissing she's pretty much out of business.

As for the nipple sucking thing. Its just a service item that all kgirls do. Heck even in korean movies in any sex scene sucking on each others tits is part of the rule.

As to this day I have never met any hooker who loved fucking us. So love might be too strong a word. I say don't mind the service.

If DFK means deep French kissing and bareback means no condom during sex then I wouldn't do that even if she offered. I don't like kissing them unless I know I'm the first customer. And I never do bareback with a working girl. Not sure if I could've done CIM. I usually can't last long when it's s new experience so I had to shove it in her box before I shot. And I'm older so shooting twice is hard to do.

But she did give a good BJ and seemed into the sex even though I didn't last long.

BTW, do all Korean chicks love sucking on a guy's nipples? I hate that but the fluffed and my chick loved doing it.

[Dan Draper]

I'm staying in Seoul for a short time. I emailed like 10 ads on Backpage and tried to differentiate fakes and real ones.

I ended up contacting one girl called Heejin that claimed to be a 22 yo indie college student. Total be&S. The girl that came looked nothing like the picture, and she looked more like 27-29 and acted like a pro. Pretty average looking. Uninspired BBJ, no DKF, tried 69 for like 30 seconds and then FS. Left after pop about 30-40 minutes. 230 K KRW. Would not recommend!

Then I tried Master Korea Agency a different day. They asked 290 K KRW / HR. Negotiated to 240 K. Picked a girl called "Miss I". She wasn't the girl in the pic but hot none the less. I would rate here a 9/10 in looks. It was 2 AM when she arrived and seemed either she just woke up or she's been clubbing all night. Smelled like cigarettes. CBJ, no DKF, no 69, just straight to FS. The girl was def hot. Pretty face and great body. But service was meh for the price. I didn't make sure what service was provided with booker. I assumed all Seoul is GFE but I guess not. Girl was HOT but I think 240 K is too much for mediocre service. If it was 200 K I would recommend.

I was trying to book a girl from Bohemian. But takes them forever to reply so I was impatient. Might still try them.

[TokyoGuy01]

Sounds like you had fun and great service. Never received what you got. Always a fluffer with BJ only. I tried carrasing their hair or touching their arms few times when they were blowing me but my hands were literally slapped away like flies. Pretty robotic service the fluffing part. Which I totally understand. Shit I bet the fluffer girls have to blow like 30-40 guys day. Mouth must be sore as hell after a days work.

Your main girl did you get DFK kissing or CIM or bareback?

If DFK means deep French kissing and bareback means no condom during sex then I wouldn't do that even if she offered. I don't like kissing them unless I know I'm the first customer. And I never do bareback with a working girl. Not sure if I could've done CIM. I usually can't last long when it's s new experience so I had to shove it in her box before I shot. And I'm older so shooting twice is hard to do.

But she did give a good BJ and seemed into the sex even though I didn't last long.

BTW, do all Korean chicks love sucking on a guy's nipples? I hate that but the fluffed and my chick loved doing it.

[RainMania]

I get it that 70,000 at RLD vs 200,000 for officetels and anmas is a big differnce. But with the medicore looks and service at RLDs these days. I rather save my money and fuck every 3 weeks at officetels or anmas vs once a week at RLD now.

Like I said in a previous post, the fun is in the chase as well as the fucking. I don't mind dealing with the ajummas, they get better the more they recognize you.

I'm still more of a quantity over quality punter, especially if I can get satisfactory or better than satisfactory service from women I find attractive. I'm also personally not a fan of anything that offers less than 2 pops for 200 k won plus, unless the service is out of this world.

No doubt Anma and Officetel girls are better in terms of looks and (mostly) services, but you'd be hard pressed to find services like BBFS at reasonable rates at either or both.

It might take some time to find your niche though. When you do, stick to it for as long as you can.

[RainMania]

No offense but those are some ugly ass hands.

Not there for the hands dude LOL.

[KgirlPower]

No offense but those are some ugly ass hands.

Don't know what happened yesterday, I tried to set up a lip cafe appointment with no luck. Just about every lip cafe listed on abam, bamwars and opview was either fully booked or not picking the phone (which also suggests fully booked). Maybe yesterday was national BJ day or something LOL.

Went over to Miari. Didn't want to visit my usual place, so I started my entry from the other end of the RLD. Ajumma beckoned me in and tells me she has a good girl available, most of the time it's bullshit, sometimes they're actually telling the truth.

I walked in, and recognized the girl. I'd seen her at another house in Miari before, short, ok face, massive tits (D or E), not skinny but not fat, slight belly (nothing bigger than the average middle aged woman), and a little tight.

The last time we fucked, I didn't last 5 mins. This time around was no different. After a crappy BJ, she got on top and rode aggressively while sucking and licking on my nipples. Managed to play with her knockers before busting everything inside with her on top, and even then she didn't stop, she just kept going!

I can usually go the full length and over at Miari with no issue but there's something about this particular woman that makes me cum in no time. I've definitely found a new regular. Next time I may have to pay for 2 shots with her.

Face - 6. 5.

Body - 6. 5.

Boobs - 9.

BJ skills - 5.

BBFS - 9.

Overall - 7. 5.

[KgirlPower]

I get it that 70,000 at RLD vs 200,000 for officetels and anmas is a big differnce. But with the medicore looks and service at RLDs these days. I rather save my money and fuck every 3 weeks at officetels or anmas vs once a week at RLD now.

You deal with them the same way you deal with any other ajumma in the country. Friendly banter, polite, lots of smiling and insistence on what you want.

If you tell the ajummas what you want (CIM, BBFS etc), they'll know which girl does what and will direct you to her. If they don't have a provider that offers your preferred services, they'll call one of their ajumma friends to take you to another establishment.

The only downer is they are often dishonest about the looks / age of the girls, because they're counting on you to think with your dick. If you're not happy with your selection's appearance, you can always send her back and call for another one. As long as you don't fuck anyone there, you'll get a full refund if nothing meets your fancy.

Worst case scenario they might shout at you, but it's literally the same tone every ajumma in the country uses. Just laugh it off, apologize, bow and take your leave. Promise you'll come back next time.

[ExExPat Mongol]

So I just went to Fish and had a pretty good time. It's all fresh in my mind, so I want to put pen to paper before it becomes a blur. If you've never been before then I'll let you know what to expect.

Walk in and take off your shoes. You'll be given slippers to wear. At the front desk, ignore the the sign that says "No Foreigners." Pay your 220,000 and go downstairs. You'll be given a bracelet with a number and key. That is your locker number. Get naked and put your clothes in the locker.

Now you got to shower a bit. No need to brush your teeth or get really clean. I'll explain later. Dry off and put on a robe. Now you got to wait until they call your number. It wasn't busy when I got there, but I still had to wait about 15 min. They call your number but don't get too excited. Now you can choose what girl you want in a little room outside the locker area. Choose and now you got to wait again until your girl is free. I had to wait another 45 min, but I assume if your girl is free then you can go immediately. Have a free drink that's provided and wait..

Hey bro,

Can share the location of the place you described? Fish?

Thanks.