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[Coitus68]

Apparently coitus has never been to Mexico where the phrases "si, papi", "mas papi" and "mucho grande, papi" is a cultural turn-on for mongers south of the border!

We are not in Mexico. We're in Korea, and being called dad here is NOT a cultural turn-on. There is a BIG difference between being called "oh-bba" and "ah-bba". Any Korean women calling me "ah-bba" has issues I want no part of.

[Pita123]

What are the typical opening hours on The Hill and Itaewon? It is now 11PM. Too late to head over for window shopping and atmosphere?

[Gern]

i decided to go back again today to the second location i described in the previous message. the lightheartedness of yesterday was not indicative of today's experience. i also made a number of newbie mistakes and didn't think with the big head, so i guess i deserved the less than mediocre outcome.

here are the warning signs so others can learn...

1. only two women in the room, only one of who was as attractive as those from the day before.
2. mamasan led me to a basement room that smelled of mildew (at best) or [CodeWord109] (at worst).
3. the only three phrases from the woman who showed up in my basement dungeon were: "use condom", "no kissing", and "no touching." by the way...she was the ugly one.

what i should have done was...

1. specifiy that i would only stay if i could have the cute one.
2. complain about the smell and ask for an upstairs room.
3. after hearing "no kissing" and "no touching", i should have said, "no money" and walked out.

so, it was frustrating, uninteresting, and a low point in my p4p history, but i did bust one while working her from behind, and survived to play again. that particular establishment, however, will not get my return business.

[Gern]

I had some mid-day free time today, so I headed back to the Miari RLD. I had intended to try a different location from the one I reported on two weeks ago, but ended up being captured by the same ajumma and brought to the same sliding door (the location, btw, is on the left, about 20 meters into the entrance of the RLD from Gireum Station exit #10).

The same woman (Kuk Wha) was available and the experience was pretty much the same as reported before. She remembered me and was very glad I had returned. Again, a duo or a subsequent session with the other woman who was present was recommended, but I refused since I was short on time, and she was a bit larger than I would prefer.

When I left, I wanted to explore a bit more of the RLD, so I continued down the alleyway in a staight line from the entrance. I met my ajumma at the first junction and turned left to proceed toward another exit. Another ajumma to whom she was talking followed me and took me into her establishment (located about 20 yards from the hanging curtains on my right hand side as I walked toward the exit).

She and a second ajumma who was stationed in the room tried some high pressure tactics to get me to do a session there, almost including a team tackle, but I did not have time to stick around. There were 5 women there, four of whom were very good possibilties. The situation was quite commical, since I was speaking English, they were speaking Korean, the girls were laughing, and I was being held in a bear-hug by one ajumma and pulled on the arm by another.

I promised to return within a few days. I will report after making another visit.

[Kimchi Warrior]

good god, that's disgusting to think *she* offered to give a bj.

speaking of disgusting, i went to the hill last thursday afternoon, and took a peek in abc. i may be wrong (please tell me i am) but there were three "girls" working there, but at least two of them looked like ts/tv, the younger ones. is that club know for trannies as well?

btw, abc was the club where i got the young fatty to give me a bj for 40k, so for the mamasan it should be more like 4k i think!

abc to my knowlege does not stock ts/tv. but i've noticed several times when i was in the area during the day, that the troll has opened as early as noon and was "entertaining" other providers from around the hill. maybe what you saw were ts/tv members of the coffee-klatch? oth, respectfully, you seem to be both extremely sensitive about this subject (to each his own!) and (hence?) unusually disposed to seeing ts/tvs where there may not be.

[Ezinho]

kw - regarding the now friendlier mama-san. last week when i was just strolling around the hill she popped out and was offering bj's herself for 40k so maybe she's being nicer to everyone so she's not on the front lines (so to speak).

good god, that's disgusting to think *she* offered to give a bj.

speaking of disgusting, i went to the hill last thursday afternoon, and took a peek in abc. i may be wrong (please tell me i am) but there were three "girls" working there, but at least two of them looked like ts/tv, the younger ones. is that club know for trannies as well?

btw, abc was the club where i got the young fatty to give me a bj for 40k, so for the mamasan it should be more like 4k i think!

[Kimchi Warrior]

The fav was busy the other night when I made an unplanned stop; I didn't have time (or the inclination) to wait around; so I wandered up the Hill. Mamasan troll @ ABC was much nicer than usual; my and what I hope is the boycott of others responding to my previous reports seems to behaving the desired effect. I've also noticed that she hasn't been able to hang on to her SPs - they seem to be changing on a less than weekly basis, and she's got one or two of the real dregs of the Hill on staff. This time around there was one new possible playmate, but I decided to keep on going. Just next door was "Cindy" @ Happy Days [not to be confused w/ "Cindy" @ VIP]. Long, shapely legs in the skimpiest white cut-off jean hot pants ever made with a spangled red push-up bikini top - which she needs having only A cups - but which she doesn't really need, as they are quite nice A cups with attractively pert nipples. Somewhat sharp facial features, but very friendly (I've had her before) and frisky. I wasn't quite sure I didn't want to wait for the fav, so I started off with a couple of drinks in the club. But Cindy's cock-stroking had me stoked in no time, so I decided to throw caution to the hard-on. In fact, I decided I wanted a double, so after a brief consultation with Cindy, we sent out for the aforementioned new girl from ABC. Her name is Yuri. Also long legs, a little too slender to be really shapely compared with Cindy's and otherwise not as attractive on close inspection as she first appeared. Breasts in the overly firm bolt-on B range, a little shapeless through the torso, with a bit of a jelly belly. Finally, a little frog faced behind the screen of her modified shag haircut. I wasn't in the mood for any more shopping delays, though, so decided to take one for the team, if that's what it turned out to be. Boy, was I wrong! Yuri turned out to be a first class cocksucker, and has the tightest pussy I've ever had in 45 years of shagging - in fact it was too tight for me to get more than halfway in when the time came for that, at least without some help from Cindy who obliged by letting me practice PTM to grease the skids. Still it was too tight to be entirely comfortable, and Yuri was obviously hurting, so we switched up so I could fuckCindy reverse cow girl while practicing PTM with Yuri - Did I mention that her blowjob is among the best? - who would alternate sucking me off and watching my dick slide in and out of Cindy, while I finger fucked her. A good time was had by all, especially me, until we finished up with my cock in Yuri's mouth, my balls in Cindy's and, finally, spew all over both their faces. Yuri claimed it was her first time for CIM and a facial - hard to believe given her oral skills - but I'll take it. Both highly recommended. Usual Hill rates for first class long time (1.5 hours) service.

[Run Mann]

I have never learned how to add the quote text with the blue background screen

Click on the "quote" button on the bottom of the post you want to quote and type your response below it.

Also, I have been seeing ads on CL for a place called Asina Paradise and a girl who says she is "Age:28

As soon as the ads are posted on CL for Korea they're taken down; there are better/safer ways to to go. The TVs seem to have taken over though.

[Coitus68]

Knowing that LE have shut down a few places that advertised on CL, I would hate to get caught up in a sting.

Knowing LE has finally cottoned onto the ads on CL, and have actually shut down two companies (Pink and UE) and at least three independents (the ones who had a net presence, anyway) who posted there regularly, I wouldn't trust any posts on CL at all, and move on to where LE is not looking.

[Frank M]

I have never learned how to add the quote text with the blue background screen, but I reported a few weeks ago on what I thought was a a Prego SW in Itaewon. I see from reponses that she is just fat...first off thanks to those who posted the info, and given that she is only fat, I might hit her up. Does anyone know if she is Korean. Not that it matters but she did not look the part.

Also, I have been seeing ads on CL for a place called Asina Paradise and a girl who says she is "Age:28 -measurements 36D-27-36" with three pics. I would be interested if anyone has experience with either provider(s). Knowing that LE have shut down a few places that advertised on CL, I would hate to get caught up in a sting.

Thanks in advance for any info. If you want to PM me, I can be contacted on the sister USA site under the handle of "Frank M".

Frank

[Kennlkl]

I'm visiting Seoul from Thur~Sunday.

Is there any place to find chinese girls?

[ILoveChicas]

I don't want to duplicate what has been amply recorded here, but I just want to report that a mid-40's, bald, pudgy, white and freckled North American with only two Korean phrases can find what he is looking for in Seoul!

I visited Yongsan RLD, Miari RLD and 588 RLD over the past two days (right around lunch time) to check things out. In each location, only about 25% of the windows were occupied. As previously reported in the Forum, the A-Row girls had a distant, glazed-over look to them as I passed by, but perked to life when even the oldest, shriveled, curmudgeon Korean laborer or tinted-window car got within 15 meters. But, since I expected it, I didn't take offense; I just laughed to myself and enjoyed the view. Some were smokin' hot and others were far too impressed with themselves for me to consider them attractive.

B-row ladies at both Yongsan and 588 were more than willing to call me over (Appa....Appa...!), but I didn't see anyone in whom I was interested. One or two were probably possibilities after a sufficient quantity of soju, but not quite what I was looking for--I'm trying to be VERY polite.

I didn't last long at Miari, because I decided to visit the room of the first mamasan that grabbed me; I was not disappointed. There were three girls in the room for me to choose from. I was entertained by a relatively attractive 27 year-old lass (probably 5'3", 110 lbs, nice small b-cups) who pushed all the right buttons and got the job done with the standard amenities in the standard time frame. I"m sorry, I don't remember her name...it was a different combination than I've heard before.

After our initial 70K won round was completed, she tried to talk me into another round with her or one of the other two women who were in the front room, but I called it quits after the pleasant first round.

Her English ability wasn't great, but we were able to communicate all the necessities. She told me that I was a very nice man and begged me to come back again soon. She even brought the other girls back to the room to chat after we were finished. Since it was just after noon, I'm pretty sure I was the only guy in the house...maybe the entire RLD!

So, as I said above, my mission was successful and the previous reports were spot on. B-Row girls at Yongsan and 588 were willing, but A-Row possibilities for this blantantly caucasion middle-ager did not exist. The house at Miari was very equal-opportunity and I plan to return.

I do have a question for the regulars who have read this far. Is it possible to negotiate at the outset for two shots for less than 140K? If so, how about a different girl for each shot at a discounted rate? Just wondering...

Your report is spot on. I've had pretty decent luck in Yongsan RLD, Miari RLD and 588 RLD. Well - just did reconnaissance in Miari but the "door's are open" so to speak.

The earlier in the evening and the week the better my luck has been as well. I think if you are reasonably dressed, it's say 6pm on a Monday, Tuesday etc., the "A" row girls can be friendlier. In fact I walk around for kicks on the hill more than partake at this point. Just better and easier in the RLD's mentioned. RLD rates can be had for 60W in many cases.

Another stop is Yeongdeungpo station area. If you veer left as you leave the big department store attached to the subway station you'll find a series of small alleyways that lead to a bowery type zone. Not for the faint of heart or to everyone's liking for sure. Across the major intersection from the department store (again head in a leftward direction is another small RLD. Yeongdeungpo is poor and rough - there is some street walker action up the road (yet again, go left on the main drag. In the afternoon at least the women are usually much older and in pretty bad shape. There is a sprinkling of SW activity on the edges of the RLD area as well.

I'm curious what other SW action is in Seoul that people could post about? Any areas worth checking out? I vaguely recall a post from way back that mentioned a SW area supposedly run by gangs (maybe I'm mis-remembering it) but I can't find the post again.

I've wandered around some streets where there are the no-tell hotels with the "privacy" flaps covering a view of parked cars there. Seems like an obvious area for SW's but I've never seen one.

[Gern]

I don't know about you, but I have difficulty being with any women who thinks I'm her dad.

Yeah...and I know I'm not as sprite as I once was, but even if I add a year (Korean age), I'm pretty sure they were older than I am!

[Suwon]

I don't know about you, but I have difficulty being with any women who thinks I'm her dad.

Yeah. I assume they were saying "Oppa, Oppa" which means "older brother" technically, but can be used by a girl to mean any guy older than her. Just like we can call a woman we're friendly with "Noona" if she is older (even though she isn't really our sister). Also similar to how girls call each other "Onnie" which means sister. But they aren't all sisters!

They don't say "Appa" to anyone but their father! Even for Koreans that's one hell of a psychobilly freakout!

[JamesKm1984]

My buddy is in visiting for a few days from USA. We used to be roomies here in Korea, so I let him crash at my pad and even helped him out with some cash. Has always been a good wingman, and team player. Tonight, he told me he was going to hook up with an old flame until midnight and then we would hit the night on the town. I asked him 3 times if she is bringing a friend, which he clearly stated negative (I even gave him play by play directions on where to find a cheap hotel). At 930pm I get a missed call as I was napping preparing to go out (he knows I am sleeping). After waking up and having a quick power workout, I call him on way to Itaewon. He tells me she did bring a friend, and her friend has hooked up with his kyopo buddy (who mysteriously appeared last night with no warning over dinner when my reg girl was present). I spent the whole goddamn day reminding him the importance of the wingman and "pairs" in hooking up local talent in Korea. Of course, kyopo gives the classic line "I think she's ugly and I don't want her, I have a steady girlfriend". Bit the moment she shows interest in me, he's all over her, cockblocking me telling her about my relationship sitiuation. Did I forget to mention she was SMOKING HOT! Even when her friends show up, the damage is done, and after scooping digits from one, and trying to get her out of the club, the friend stops her and tells her what kyopo has said.

First of all, I am pissed at my buddy, who knows damn better. Secondly, I am tired of the Korean cockblockers, and worst of all, these insecure kyopo guys who would rather steal my potential prize than see a fellow Korean (girl) with a white guy. I have had enough of the double standard bullshit (and I have experienced this enough times to see a consistent pattern).

I desperately don't want to become bigoted, but this is getting over the top!

Totally sorry to hear about your situation. I admit, I'm a kyopo, born and raised in America. But I soooo totally know what you're talking about. If you go to the clubs in Gangnam-gu, especially in Apgujeong or Gangnam-yeok, a lot of those people are kyopos who seriously think they're the shit. Honestly, the more you talk to them, the more you realize just how pathetic they are. They think they're so cool because they're partying in a different country and when the go back to America or Canada, they can brag about how much partying they did.

Like how Gildo said, a lot of Koreans will tell you that a good number of kyopos are unwanted and really just a pest. They try getting into fights with the wrong people and end up paying for it big time. Just keep doing your thing man and I hope everything turns out well for you!