Seoul

[Monger1313]

After my excursion in the back alleys of Soellung Station and a little R&R at "Call", I headed over to the Renaissance to recon for the much talked about Baek Sung.

For those comng from further afield, and automotively-challenged, your best bets are either Seollung Station or Yeoksam Station on the subway. From Seollung, leave by the most northwesterly exit (sorry, don't know the exit #, but you want a little challenge don; t you? ), and proceed west along the northside of the big boulevard, Teheran-no, a few blocks until you reach the Renaissance Hotel. As I said it's about a ten minute walk, and the Hotel can't be missed.

For those getting off at Yeoksam, do the reverse: exit at the most northeasterly access stairway and walk due east along the northside of Teheran-no until you reach the hotel. It's probably a little closer to Yeosam than Seollung.

When you get to the Hotel go to the side street running north along its west side. For those who are directionally-challenged, look for the Buy the Way convenience store that is on te corner of the side street and Teheran-no.

The usual suspects are all located on the three alleys that run west (left) and generally uphill off the side street. There are at least a dozen or more establishments, and they are that: most are 5-6 story buildings of substantial size.

According to a previous poster, the renowned Baek Sung is on the second alley about a third to halfway up in a Mediterranean-style building. I didn't see anything I would describe as Mediterranean, but there was a building in a sort of pastiche of late Renaissance-eraly Baroque style, with vestigial ironwork balconies tacked onto the windows on the front facade, in the indicated location. If it is indeed the former Baek Song, it's now called Myeong Ka, but the sign (over the door) is in Hangul. The other principal visual features are the main entrance at the lower right hand corner of the building, flanked on the left side by 2 or 3 narrow display windows behind which are mannequins decked out in elaborate feathered gowns, nest to which is the car park with the famous Korean "modesty curtains".

I was in Seoul ten days ago and had done my research on the Forum. I really wanted to try an anma; anyone can arrange an in-call in any major city in the world. A major goal of international mongering is the local experience. Thanks to the Forum, I took away the lesson of "go early", and go to a foreigner-friendly venue. The best bet seemed to be down by the Renaissance, lots of options, especially as the directions were so clear.

I tried the first side street and saw northing that looked like massage, though there were some clubs. The third side street had dozen of clubs, but nothing that looked like an anma massage. The middle street had three, right in a row, on the north side. The first one, Queen, told me at 1130 to come back in two hours. It had a big sign out front in English as well as Korean; the symbol is the queen from a deck of cards. Can't miss it. The next two (the middle one was probably once upon a time the Baek Sung as the building fits the description quoted) told me that they were reserved for Koreans only. To kill time, I checked out the surrounding area and found at least a half dozen other anma, all of which told me "no foreigners".

At 1300 I returned to Queen, was welcomed, paid Won 200, 000, and was taken upstairs by the papasan, a young chap with some English. He took me to the room, perhaps 3X4 meters, which had a bathroom area carved out of one corner, clear glass walls, shower, sink, and toilet. I had drawn "Jenny", a very petite woman aged about 30, cute enough, but not beautiful. After a decent interval where we determined the limits of verbal communication, she got naked and undressed me, then headed for the shower, where she washed me thoroughly and not particularly sensually. After drying me off, she put me on the bed and told me in broken English she was going to take a leak and then a shower. Which is what she did, clearly visible through the clear glass walls. I was slightly floored.

Back to bed, all clean, and little pretense of a massage on her part. She licked and kissed and nibbled all over, both sides, which had the desired effect. Liberal roaming allowed, but no kissing. After perhaps 10-12 minutes, she turned 69, presenting a lovely sight (and site!) for additional play, whilst performing a CBJ, which was good, though not extraordinary. Then, without preamble, she swiveled around, inserted me, and spent several minutes up and down, before settling into mish for another few minutes. I took a while and she was quite patient, made the right little sounds, nibbled on the ears, and so on.

Afterwards, she cleaned me up, then, of all things, as part of a face massage, applied a "masque". I was gobsmacked, but was in this for the experience, so acquiesced. In five minutes or so she took off the mask, did a little more face and scalp massage, then got me dressed. One hour on the dot. A quick call and papas an appeared to escort me out. All was very cordial. I believe the Korean price is 180K and that I had paid a small premium. Fair enough.

This was by no means a GFE; it was, however, a look into another world. I could see that with the right vibes, the right setting, this way of doing "massage" business could be very pleasant indeed. I guess that was the only down side to the experience. Having seen its outlines, I know I can never have the full experience.

[Run Mann]

I forgot. One more important thing.

My friend told me it says the police already have 41 customers info. Of Pink.

But I have no idea if the Pink knows this or not. Anyway their web site shows their phone number, it's a very stupid idea. But maybe good for their business. In Korea. If you are willing to contact some escort, go find some agency or independent which has a strict procedure. The police think they are not easy and let it go.. Especially independent. They prefer some big agency.

Well I’m sure they know as they have modified their web site and are no longer aggressively advertising on CL. Not sure what you mean by strict procedure but anyone using any escort agency or sex provider (shops) in Korea should use caution to protect themselves and not depend on any agency to protect them. There's a long list of customers who have been busted because they were careless in using escort agencies/MPs. This bust reads like a repeat of the sex crackdown of a few years ago when the cops used the shop's (they busted) records containing customer’s name/phone/credit card numbers to make arrest and prosecute people after the act.

UE escorts are novices or idiots as they clearly did not know how the sex trade works in Korea and made themselves a target. It’s always easy to analyze after the fact but much of this has been said before; never use your credit card to purchase sex in any establishment in Korea and never use your real info (name/phone number/email address) as it can come back to bite you. Also the military guys who got caught can look forward to the military bending them over too as it’s a crime for them to engage in prostitution.

[Seoulstice]

LOL Your youth is showing kid. Give it some time and you won't mind paying that.

"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often credited to P. T. Barnum.

What a waste of money.

No pussy is worth 250. 000!

Unless you're banging her everynight for a week!

But, we know who was banging who in this case!

Sorry to read that you got screwed buddy.

Korea is the last place to monger unless one is desperate.

[Bobojo13]

I know some people who used UE and Pink this past winter. Should I tell them to start packing? According to the report they have a list of 4000 names. Does that mean there will be that many arrests? Or will there be just a few as an example? Is there any kind of precedent for this?

[Anduher]

Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!

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2010-04-28 19:38

A former U.S. soldier was arrested by the police on charges of brokering prostitution online. The Gangdong Police Station on Tuesday arrested a 27-year-old U.S. citizen identified by his initial L and also booked six of the prostitutes. People who bought sex on the site or exchanged phone calls or emails with him will also face investigation, police officials said. The man opened a website, claiming to introduce foreign men here to dates or female escorts who were in fact prostitutes. He posted naked photographs of the hired women, with their faces hidden.Below the pictures were marked the women’s age, available hours and their hourly fee, of which 20-50 percent were handed over to L.

The prostitutes, from countries such as Russia, Vietnam and the Philippines, were mostly hired through online job ads supposedly looking for waitresses.
A total of 200 customers have so far used the website, most of them being U.S. soldiers or native English speakers working here, according to the police.
Under the present law, those caught for brokering prostitution on the Internet are to face a maximum jail term of three years or a maximum fine of 30 million won ($26,834). A newspaper made a report earlier this month about such websites and the rampant online prostitution practices which go unnoticed on the Internet. The police were largely unaware of the websites, according to the report. The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.

I forgot. One more important thing.

My friend told me it says the police already have 41 customers info. Of Pink.

But I have no idea if the Pink knows this or not. Anyway their web site shows their phone number, it's a very stupid idea. But maybe good for their business. In Korea. If you are willing to contact some escort, go find some agency or independent which has a strict procedure. The police think they are not easy and let it go.. Especially independent. They prefer some big agency.

[Anduher]

Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!

________________________________________________________________
2010-04-28 19:38

A former U.S. soldier was arrested by the police on charges of brokering prostitution online. The Gangdong Police Station on Tuesday arrested a 27-year-old U.S. citizen identified by his initial L and also booked six of the prostitutes. People who bought sex on the site or exchanged phone calls or emails with him will also face investigation, police officials said. The man opened a website, claiming to introduce foreign men here to dates or female escorts who were in fact prostitutes. He posted naked photographs of the hired women, with their faces hidden.Below the pictures were marked the women’s age, available hours and their hourly fee, of which 20-50 percent were handed over to L.

The prostitutes, from countries such as Russia, Vietnam and the Philippines, were mostly hired through online job ads supposedly looking for waitresses.
A total of 200 customers have so far used the website, most of them being U.S. soldiers or native English speakers working here, according to the police.
Under the present law, those caught for brokering prostitution on the Internet are to face a maximum jail term of three years or a maximum fine of 30 million won ($26,834). A newspaper made a report earlier this month about such websites and the rampant online prostitution practices which go unnoticed on the Internet. The police were largely unaware of the websites, according to the report. The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.

http://www.cyworld.com/01063184664/618971
- sorry, it's Korean article, I just got the link from my Korean friend.-

The police got the information of Pink and UE escort from Craigslist and it says their next target is Pink and already started to work on them.

Be careful.

[Halcyon901]

Don't be disappointed, you just can't rely on anyone but yourself. I live in Korea and my personal mantra is that the more you stay away from having male Korean friends the better your chances of scoring with their women.

To be more clear, unless you have something they want are you ever going to have a real male Korean friend? Absolutely NO WAY!

First, I have no clue why Jack Rabbit is pissed. Because he paid for the booking club or he didn't get laid, or maybe a combination of both.

But I don't see how his native Korean friend did any cock-blocking. Maybe I misread something, but it just seems that either:

1. The girls were not into Jack Rabbit.

2. Jack Rabbit has no game.

I don't know, but 250, 000W is like 1 person in a real booking in Seoul. The VIP room in Eden runs around 2, 000, 000won. So it's not like this is a significant sum in terms of clubs. Maybe outside Seoul, but why even bother?

Second, as for the comment above, I'm dumbfounded. When I lived in Korea for 3 years, my native friends would always try to help me out, be it with girls, money, translating stuff, etc.

Third, I have a very close friend from my elementary school days living in Korea for the pas 5 years. Although he is white, he gets a ton of p-sy! And the chicks he sees are model-like hot. Of course, he doesn't act like a typically baek-in douchebag from the States, and actually treats women very well.

[Kimchi Warrior]

Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!

________________________________________________________________
2010-04-28 19:38

A former U.S. soldier was arrested by the police on charges of brokering prostitution online. The Gangdong Police Station on Tuesday arrested a 27-year-old U.S. citizen identified by his initial L and also booked six of the prostitutes. People who bought sex on the site or exchanged phone calls or emails with him will also face investigation, police officials said. The man opened a website, claiming to introduce foreign men here to dates or female escorts who were in fact prostitutes. He posted naked photographs of the hired women, with their faces hidden.Below the pictures were marked the women’s age, available hours and their hourly fee, of which 20-50 percent were handed over to L.

The prostitutes, from countries such as Russia, Vietnam and the Philippines, were mostly hired through online job ads supposedly looking for waitresses.
A total of 200 customers have so far used the website, most of them being U.S. soldiers or native English speakers working here, according to the police.
Under the present law, those caught for brokering prostitution on the Internet are to face a maximum jail term of three years or a maximum fine of 30 million won ($26,834). A newspaper made a report earlier this month about such websites and the rampant online prostitution practices which go unnoticed on the Internet. The police were largely unaware of the websites, according to the report. The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.

Here's an even better, and more disturbing, account, culled from the native language press: http://www.rjkoehler.com/2010/04/28/...rs/#comments.:

[BionicMan]

Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!

The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.

Wondering who has been banging that female officer
Surprised that LE did not know...

[BionicMan]

BY reading here and there on this forum it seems there is nothing for mongerers in the airport vicinity or in the nreaby hotels (MP, sauna or whatever).
Am I right?
I will be spending a long overnight in an airport hotel and wass just wondering whether there is any chance to sample a korean girl in her homeground...

[Run Mann]

Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!

________________________________________________________________
2010-04-28 19:38

A former U.S. soldier was arrested by the police on charges of brokering prostitution online. The Gangdong Police Station on Tuesday arrested a 27-year-old U.S. citizen identified by his initial L and also booked six of the prostitutes. People who bought sex on the site or exchanged phone calls or emails with him will also face investigation, police officials said. The man opened a website, claiming to introduce foreign men here to dates or female escorts who were in fact prostitutes. He posted naked photographs of the hired women, with their faces hidden.Below the pictures were marked the women’s age, available hours and their hourly fee, of which 20-50 percent were handed over to L.

The prostitutes, from countries such as Russia, Vietnam and the Philippines, were mostly hired through online job ads supposedly looking for waitresses.
A total of 200 customers have so far used the website, most of them being U.S. soldiers or native English speakers working here, according to the police.
Under the present law, those caught for brokering prostitution on the Internet are to face a maximum jail term of three years or a maximum fine of 30 million won ($26,834). A newspaper made a report earlier this month about such websites and the rampant online prostitution practices which go unnoticed on the Internet. The police were largely unaware of the websites, according to the report. The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.

[Sojumekju]

Long time reader, first time poster of this forum, I want to thank the contributor for the valuable informations found here.

Usually when in Seoul, I am located north of the Han river and therefore decided to try the massage/hand job joint called Cleopatra in the Sincheon area. This was mentioned by Looking Inrok.

Directions were accurate : take exit 8 at Sincheon station walk straight 100 yards and you should see a 3/4 floors building with “Night Club” written on top and a bowling pin at the basement. Just take the small alley left directly after this building walk around 30 yards and Cleopatra should be on your right. It is written only in Hangeul : cleo masaji 클래오 마사지 up the door, and Cleopatra 클레오파트라 on the door.

I am personnaly a fan of Daum Map as it is easy to get an idea of the directions before turning and turning around the streets of Seoul. Here is the Daum map link for accurate location :

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?...nMode=vertical

Place is in the basement, as usual. As I entered a young guy requested 70,000 Won, he asked me if it was the first time here (which was the case) and how I did know about the place. My white face was no problem. Communication was in basic Korean. He explained again : no sex just blow job hand job. Time limited to 40 minutes.
Same procedure as in the joints of Kangnam : undress, shower, back in the room and wait until the agashi comes in. Just that there is no ring bell to press here like in “Belle” and the guy went to ask if I was ready before sending the girl.
My lady came in. Her name was Hana, a solid 7 at least for both face and body. She told me about being a student at the kyeonggi university. After a so-so massage performed while wearing a kind of sexy white dress and no panty (!), she then undressed completely, licked me from my ears to my balls and performed a good and long blow job. She took some gel and finished me with a professional hand job. I was very happy.
It is not a real GFE as Hana kept a professional distance, positioned herself during operations so that her intimate parts remained out of reach, and did not kiss on the lips but on the chicks and everywhere else, but she was friendly and the blow job was first really good. “Action” did not last more than 25 minutes. I showered and Hana came back for some time more (10 minutes ?) to chatt and have a drink. I left satisfied and will probably come back if I happen to pass in this area again.

[Catire]

First post and first time / first night in Seoul. Here for three nights. Had a wander around opposite the Seven Luck Casino and seems to be lots of spinning poles...
What's the deal? These places FS or only HJ? Saw the VIP place mentioned in earlier posts but couldn't figure out where the entrance was.

More used to the saunas in Shanghai and regular shops in Sydney. Looking for high end and best qulaity if possible around here. Money not really a problem. Any help appreciated.

probably FS anmas.

if you feel like you have money to burn, you're in the right country to burn it.
Especially in terms of P4P.

go to a Gangnam room salon with some Korean associates, and they'll give the thickness of your wallet a good run for its money.

[Mekongmekong]

First post and first time / first night in Seoul. Here for three nights. Had a wander around opposite the Seven Luck Casino and seems to be lots of spinning poles...
What's the deal? These places FS or only HJ? Saw the VIP place mentioned in earlier posts but couldn't figure out where the entrance was.

More used to the saunas in Shanghai and regular shops in Sydney. Looking for high end and best qulaity if possible around here. Money not really a problem. Any help appreciated.

[Catire]

Finally, after many years of wanting to fulfill my curiousity, I attended a Korean booking club. Here’s the play by play, and I hope to gain some insight and objective analysis by you Expats in Korea (for some peace of mind):

My only close Korean friend of 8 years (met back home first before coming to Korea) convinced me to go to a 20’s only booking club in his hometown (1 hour from Seoul). VIP room was 250,000won total (included 5 beer, 1 bottle whiskey, and Korean snacks), almost half price of Seoul booking clubs.

Started at Western bar (had no people AT ALL), and got digits from the bartender who spoke fluent English, with by far, the most enjoyable conversation I have had with a Korean woman (especially of such beauty). My Korean friend also liked her and I could sense that he was going to make a play as well (got owner’s business card so that he could call her later).

This set the pace for the evening. He promised me no-one else would come, since I stressed the importance that the waiter would only usually pull 2 girls at a time to our room, and it is harder to close the deal (and separate) with more people. I drilled our strategy over and over. I even set up and paid for joining Penthouse rooms in nearby hotel by booking club. Lo and behold, his high school Korean-American buddy was waiting at the door when we arrived (baseball cap and all). To make matters worse, the bouncers stated that “no foreigners” were allowed. Of course, my K friend had assured me that this policy was not in effect before I even considered going. In fact, we went early to reserve the VIP room, and I requested to talk with the manager in advance. Smart move, because manager came to the door later and let us in when bouncers refused.

We all agreed to separate our girls by utilizing the in-room bathroom, and take the other one to dance floor outside. This way the remaining guy could conduct business in the room (not full on of course, waiters check the rooms to make sure everyone has a girl). Rules were: If you offer (or girl requests) beer, it means no interest. If you offer (or girl requests) whiskey it means game on.

Bookings:
1. 3 girls. Mine was young freshman University student, extremely cute (other dudes were envious). Great rapport (even with my very limited Korean). However, her friend didn’t like arrogant attitude of K American guy, so she left. Exchanged digits, and mine soon followed.

2. 2 girls. Nothing for me. My K buddy tried to pawn his girl off on me (was not a looker). She had an English tattoo with the words “Capricious”. She had no clue what it meant. (LOL) My Freshman girl came back and saw her talking to me, and stormed out (dammit).


3. 3 girls. Mine was superhot. Tall, fantastic body, great attitude, and really fun. We made out dancing in the room. Once again, K buddies were jealous (see where this is going . . .). Her friend didn’t like my K friend, so I exchanged digits (she lives in Mokdong), kissed and the girls moved on.

4. 2 girls. Not bad looking, long muscular legs (were professional bowlers). K American dude didn’t seem interested, tried to pawn off to me (token gesture), but she felt more comfortable with him. My K buddy was smitten with his. So I tried to scout out a single for me. Strangely, no girls would come to the room without a waiter dragging them, with them kicking and screaming not to go (ridiculous protocol). Of course, by this time, the club knew a foreigner was present. Hence, no more bookings for me. I even asked countless waiters to help me out. No dice. Eventually, I was frustrated and asked my K buddy to assist. No luck. At this point, I was feeling pretty uncomfortable and realized that I was not going to get any play. K American dude kept stating he “wasn’t interested” in his, but everyone ignored my suggestion to get some new bookings (told K buddy to get digits and move on).

K American dude took girls to dance floor, then out for soju.

5. My K buddy appeared stressed (since I was not pleased about not hooking up), and requested waiter for 1 girl. Waiter obliged (for him), but next one didn’t drink, so we sent her packing.

6. 2 girls. Mine was young Uni student, cutey style. His wanted to go Ozzie land to study English. Did the switch, sang/rapped to some songs (karaoke). Holding hands, little kissing, etc. My K buddy kept going outside to take calls from his previous girl waiting at soju spot with K American dude (who still claimed he wan’t gonna lay pipe-even though he then took them to hotel). Of course, the girls picked up on this, so I exchanged digits, and they moved on. My K buddy came back, asking where they went. Duh . . .

7. Went outside, tall S line hottie watching dancefloor (on 2nd floor). Spoke English, pulled her back to room. Her friend was booked, so she was waiting. Convinced her to come back to hotel with me (5am now), but needed wingman for her friend. My K buddy had soon disappeared (left to wingman K American dude), although he had paid the bill. Of course, my girls weren’t going to leave the club to a hotel with a foreigner and no Korean guy. Exchanged digits and left.

8. Frustrated and drunk, I left the club, and scouted for barber shops. 2 had truly nasty specimens, 3rd wasn’t able to see until too late (paid 70). Just wanted massage since the quality was truly nonexistent (especially after being with young meat all night). She really wanted to bang, but I told her to focus on the massage (so she burnt my back with scalding hot towels-heh). Went back to hotel and released watching lousy Korean porn.

Of course, both K dudes scored. Now the reason for my uncharacteristic long post is I am truly tormented on how much of this was the K broads being worried about foreigners (or lack of language maintenance) or due to my K buddy breaking our agreement. My sense is that he catered to his rich high school buddy’s needs first (characteristic of Koreans), knowing full well that I had come all this way to his hometown to make this happen (I had no problem paying for a nightclub in Sinchon-close for both of us). Moreover, he is trying to get an investment deal from K American dude. Either way, he was my last great K hope in some sort of redemption for all the K cock-blockers I have experienced over the many years. It was also a trust building exercise to see if he would cater to the “Koreans” or his commitment to me (important before considering working together in big business projects in future-been giving him small ones).

Or am I just pissed because I couldn’t get laid . . . .

I give you high props for just finding a hottie and in a short amount of time get her to go to a hotel with you. Especially a S-line (that's voluptuous, as in having some hips and T/A, for you confused types, and IMO a big rarity in Korea)

I can't comment on your trust issues, but in situations such as these each guy will look out first and foremost for his own cock, even more so when booze is involved. Then he'll look out for prospective future business interests. Seems both things may have played a part in all of this but I'm somewhat confused as to what exactly your buddy did "wrong". What were your expectations of him?

(and as you noted, Koreans are prodigious waygoogin cockblockers). Interesting how the kyopo guy put some of the girls off. Have heard stories about such things.

if I had to bet on why you didn't get any, it would simply be that without appropriate "cover", which could've only been provided by your Korean companions, yes, there's no way she's going to be seen leaving alone with a foreigner, especially outside of Seoul.

You should feel good that you had girls come over in a booking club outside of Seoul in the first place, much less making out with some, much less actually getting one to agree to go a to hotel.

one can get one night stands, etc in booking clubs, but it's certainly not guaranteed, much less the norm. (and as a foreigner, your odds plummet. I suspect the only reason you even did as well as you did, is because you were flashing some bank with that VIP room)