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[Charles96]

Koreans can tell even if you were to send a message. Native speakers tend to use certain phrases and Korean is a very nuanced language and it'll show when you text or call. I'm a gyopo and have been mongering in Korea for years. I've never been turned down, even when they would ask if I was native. For the record, I usually text, but eventually you need to call to get the final directions.

Makes sense. I was here thinking that I know most of those hidden phrases Koreans use but the other night I booked a girl from one those Korean sites through sms with my "perfect Korean". After confirmation, the guy called me and the first words out of his mouth were asking me about nationality.

There's some guy who used his Korean friend to book from those sites (The girl comes thinking she's meeting a Korean) then a big black dude opens the door and she can't just go back like that, so she asks him to take it slowly.

In some cases when I tell the managers that I'm a foreigner and they accept, I could later tell from how surprised the girl is that they didn't tell her who she's meeting. It happened to me with a Vietnamese, Thai and one Columbian girl.

On Friday, I contacted one op from opgani6 and after several back and forth messages and confirmation, the manager then apologized that the girls doesn't want to meet foreigners and the only one who can is booked till late at night.

It's like a draw of luck, In some cases the manager is open to foreigners but the girls aren't but in other cases the the girls be fine with foreigners when the manager ins't.

[Garthie1]

Then again, there's nothing quite like sleeping with a brand new woman.

This hobby always reminds me of an old Hank Williams Jr song- 'Women I've Never Had'.

[Taco Yaki]

Taco, do you have anything more to report on the crackdown.

You had mentioned that the police raids would end on June 20th, so I was wondering whether it is, indeed, officially over.

If you don't know, I'll just say thanks for the info. I think it explains why there has been a recent reshuffling among Hyugetels with some disappearing and others popping up with new names and phone numbers.

I know that the reshuffling is a somewhat regular occurrence, but it does seems to have happened with greater frequency in the last couple of months.

As for the crackdowns its still crackdown season so police raids are pretty common. A lot of businesses are struggling in this sense as they aren't taking new customers / very wary of taking on new customers. Lots of reshuffling going on like you said.

I heard they were supposed to end the on the 24th of this month which had already passed but there is actually no real "official" date for when raids end as that would kind of defeat the purpose of them.

For a small tip, some of the businesses upload the date of the menu uploaded on the sites, and those with outdated dates are probably shutdown / being lazy in updating.

[Nother Monger]

Being a gyopo you're one of the luckiest on this forum when it comes to mongering here. Honestly if you know some little Korean, I'd use messages instead of calling and NEVER speak of being a gyopo while booking. Unless you say it yourself or the limit is with your Korean, I don't see how OP managers would differentiate.

Koreans can tell even if you were to send a message. Native speakers tend to use certain phrases and Korean is a very nuanced language and it'll show when you text or call. I'm a gyopo and have been mongering in Korea for years. I've never been turned down, even when they would ask if I was native. For the record, I usually text, but eventually you need to call to get the final directions.

Taco, do you have anything more to report on the crackdown.

You had mentioned that the police raids would end on June 20th, so I was wondering whether it is, indeed, officially over.

If you don't know, I'll just say thanks for the info. I think it explains why there has been a recent reshuffling among Hyugetels with some disappearing and others popping up with new names and phone numbers.

I know that the reshuffling is a somewhat regular occurrence, but it does seems to have happened with greater frequency in the last couple of months.

A lot of places tend to go in and out of business. There was a crackdown mentioned in the news and talking to one of the girls I have an arrangement with and see 1:1, she told me the same thing.

[Charles96]

Decided to give this a shot as well. Same price but the girl was pretty hot. Had a good time, definitely going to try again.

Do you remember the name of the hot girl bro. Let me know if you do, I'll give them a try as well.

[Bonjovi3]

This sounds like the manager of Starry Night on OP. Kjnd of had the same thing happen to me. Said yes showed me the girl said to come at a certain time and about 10 minutes before the meeting he said the girl changed her mind. Personally I think it is him just slotting Koreans over foreigners. The tel named Hidden in Dongdaemun "now gone from OP" had me slotted I showed up knocked on the door and had the girl tell me NO at the door, I let the manager know and they apologized and set me up with another girl 20 minutes later then they shutdown.

Its just hit or miss with these places, usually if you send a selfie they will send to the girls and ask. I have had this happen more often than not and usually it is a good sign.

I often end up meeting these girls outside and on my own after the first meeting and the all tell me the same thing " they are usually prohibited from seeing foreigners but when it is slow and the manager needs money they will ask them to see a foreigner."

I guess we were in fact visiting the same location.

You probably already know that Hidden at Dapsimni Station and Lovely listed in Dongdaemun were the same exact place. For whatever reason, I found that calling the Lovely number got quicker responses.

It's sad that it's gone. It was dependable, had clean rooms, and maintained a great selection of women with 100% accurate photos. Also, the selection changed often which was a blessing and a curse. I like repeats because the comfort, communication, and service improves. Then again, there's nothing quite like sleeping with a brand new woman.

If I had been single I would have collected phone numbers left and right from that place. Most of the women I met there were super cool, and I was stoked that management let me pick whoever I wanted. RIP Lovely and Hidden and thanks for the great memories.

I'm hesitant to discuss the specifics of Hyugetels that are still in business. I know you mentioned Starry Night. Rather than confirm or deny, I'll private message you with specifics in a month.

[Bonjovi3]

Just wanted to give you all an important update that its police / raid season for all our fun adult services. Been on the news and naver a few times.

Supposed to end around 6/20 if you guys were worried about it at all.

Stay safe brothers!

Taco, do you have anything more to report on the crackdown.

You had mentioned that the police raids would end on June 20th, so I was wondering whether it is, indeed, officially over.

If you don't know, I'll just say thanks for the info. I think it explains why there has been a recent reshuffling among Hyugetels with some disappearing and others popping up with new names and phone numbers.

I know that the reshuffling is a somewhat regular occurrence, but it does seems to have happened with greater frequency in the last couple of months.

[SlapStickFun01]

Having a tough time finding quality service near my home and office.

I've had a few close calls lately, but ultimately have found disappointment. On multiple occasions, I've been given the go ahead only to have my appointment summarily canceled 30 minutes later.

Just the other day, for instance, I went through the whole rigamarole of providing my dick size and even sending a selfie (of my face, not my dick) so they could evaluate my looks and confirm that I'm not a bullshitter. At this point, things were looking good. The manager responded quickly and even said he was sure the women would think I was handsome, but that he needed to check with the ladies who were at that moment occupied. He also started typing out all his messages in English which I understood to be a sign that I would soon be one of their newest customers. I mean, if he is willing to communicate in English, he's putting in some extra work on his end to make my experience smooth and easy. Even the places where I am regular customer never communicate in English.

However, an hour passed without a follow up, and when I messaged back for further inquiry, no dice. The entire thing fell apart. I thanked him for trying, but I was definitely surprised by the outcome of our communications. Maybe they would have fit me in if it had been a slow night, maybe they prioritize Korean customers and got a deluge of appointments, or maybe none of the ladies wanted to deal with a foreigner. I honestly don't know as I'm not used to making that much progress before facing a rejection. I usually get a yes or a no straight away..

This sounds like the manager of Starry Night on OP. Kjnd of had the same thing happen to me. Said yes showed me the girl said to come at a certain time and about 10 minutes before the meeting he said the girl changed her mind. Personally I think it is him just slotting Koreans over foreigners. The tel named Hidden in Dongdaemun "now gone from OP" had me slotted I showed up knocked on the door and had the girl tell me NO at the door, I let the manager know and they apologized and set me up with another girl 20 minutes later then they shutdown.

Its just hit or miss with these places, usually if you send a selfie they will send to the girls and ask. I have had this happen more often than not and usually it is a good sign.

I often end up meeting these girls outside and on my own after the first meeting and the all tell me the same thing " they are usually prohibited from seeing foreigners but when it is slow and the manager needs money they will ask them to see a foreigner."

[Charles96]

Figured I might as well share a report of my favorite kunmas near the gangnam area.

Damage: 90 minutes for 8 manwon, but a great massage and uses hot oils with a clean shower space. No parking though.

Services: HJ is the standard that all girls do but depending on the girl does even BJ, or FS.

Called up and made an appointment an hour before. Arrived on time, showered, and led into a large room with a warm heated massage table.

She was a new face. 25, Thai, busty all around, amazing tits, great natural face with no surgery, and wearing body tight athletic wear. More of the glamorous type than cute.

Asked for a two shot from the beginning, negotiated on two handjobs, once in the beginning of the massage and once at the end while she was topless. Damage for extras was 7 manwon.

Highlight had to be playing with her tits topless as she stroked me off and throughout the massage. Rubbing her kitty through her leggings was a mini bonus.

Overall a good experience as its my go to rub and tug mostly since the massage is great (lots of teasing the boys, and stroking the cock during the massage), the girls are friendly, and the cost for extras isn't too bad if you negotiate well.

I asked the boss if he took foreigners and he said he might consider it. Will ask again.

Usually those that offer exclusively FS are more likely to deny entry to foreigners than those that offer massage as the basic service. When you ask again do let us know if he's open to foreigners. I would love to get the kind of massage doubled with a HJ or BJ you've described. Nice Report, Thanks.

[Charles96]

I was trying to go to a hugetel yesterday night (weekday) and found myself getting no responses from any on the OP site. I wound up booking a officetel that provided Russian SWs but found some difficulty when they found out I was a gyopo (Korean expat). After some time, the provider changed his mind and told me to make sure not to mention to the manager that I was an expat.

Went in, girl was nice but wasn't the top notch service I was expecting from an officetel. Overall I would give it a 6/10, but I would like to find something a little better. If anyone has suggestions, please let me know.

Being a gyopo you're one of the luckiest on this forum when it comes to mongering here. Honestly if you know some little Korean, I'd use messages instead of calling and NEVER speak of being a gyopo while booking. Unless you say it yourself or the limit is with your Korean, I don't see how OP managers would differentiate.

[Jjmanse]

I was trying to go to a hugetel yesterday night (weekday) and found myself getting no responses from any on the OP site. I wound up booking a officetel that provided Russian SWs but found some difficulty when they found out I was a gyopo (Korean expat). After some time, the provider changed his mind and told me to make sure not to mention to the manager that I was an expat.

Went in, girl was nice but wasn't the top notch service I was expecting from an officetel. Overall I would give it a 6/10, but I would like to find something a little better. If anyone has suggestions, please let me know.

[Bonjovi3]

Having a tough time finding quality service near my home and office.

I've had a few close calls lately, but ultimately have found disappointment. On multiple occasions, I've been given the go ahead only to have my appointment summarily canceled 30 minutes later.

Just the other day, for instance, I went through the whole rigamarole of providing my dick size and even sending a selfie (of my face, not my dick) so they could evaluate my looks and confirm that I'm not a bullshitter. At this point, things were looking good. The manager responded quickly and even said he was sure the women would think I was handsome, but that he needed to check with the ladies who were at that moment occupied. He also started typing out all his messages in English which I understood to be a sign that I would soon be one of their newest customers. I mean, if he is willing to communicate in English, he's putting in some extra work on his end to make my experience smooth and easy. Even the places where I am regular customer never communicate in English.

However, an hour passed without a follow up, and when I messaged back for further inquiry, no dice. The entire thing fell apart. I thanked him for trying, but I was definitely surprised by the outcome of our communications. Maybe they would have fit me in if it had been a slow night, maybe they prioritize Korean customers and got a deluge of appointments, or maybe none of the ladies wanted to deal with a foreigner. I honestly don't know as I'm not used to making that much progress before facing a rejection. I usually get a yes or a no straight away.

This being a highly unusual experience, but also a shop that I definitely want to visit, I've made a note to call back in a few weeks to see whether they can be more accommodating. I figure they've shown me some daylight, and if I can just get my foot in the door with one of their ladies, I'll be golden with the rest in no time.

Anyway, due to the run around I endured, I wound up making a last minute reservation at a familiar Hyugetel, but as I mentioned earlier, I had really wanted to try out a new spot with some new ladies.

Just for fun, I also contacted a few OPs in Gangnam later that same evening. I've never gotten a positive response from an OP and my most recent series of requests to make a reservation was no different. Each of the OP's responses, as usual, was a flat, unconditional no. One was more polite and responded that "it would be difficult". But I know from experience that this actually means the same exact thing as a no, so I didn't push further.

If you're a white guy who has gotten into an OP (not a Hyugetel, Gunma, Lip Cafe, Kiss Bang, Anma, Full Salon, or street shop) what's your secret? I've all but given up on OPs.

[Stack58]

So far from a value POV, the LipCafe is the most for the value, but I'm a sucker for a good oral. I'll report back after the officetel and anma. It's a great time to be a gyopo in Seoul!

LipCafes are the best! It has just proven to be very hard to get in as a non Asian foreigner the past couple of years.

[Taco Yaki]

Figured I might as well share a report of my favorite kunmas near the gangnam area.

Damage: 90 minutes for 8 manwon, but a great massage and uses hot oils with a clean shower space. No parking though.

Services: HJ is the standard that all girls do but depending on the girl does even BJ, or FS.

Called up and made an appointment an hour before. Arrived on time, showered, and led into a large room with a warm heated massage table.

She was a new face. 25, Thai, busty all around, amazing tits, great natural face with no surgery, and wearing body tight athletic wear. More of the glamorous type than cute.

Asked for a two shot from the beginning, negotiated on two handjobs, once in the beginning of the massage and once at the end while she was topless. Damage for extras was 7 manwon.

Highlight had to be playing with her tits topless as she stroked me off and throughout the massage. Rubbing her kitty through her leggings was a mini bonus.

Overall a good experience as its my go to rub and tug mostly since the massage is great (lots of teasing the boys, and stroking the cock during the massage), the girls are friendly, and the cost for extras isn't too bad if you negotiate well.

I asked the boss if he took foreigners and he said he might consider it. Will ask again.

[Taco Yaki]

Now that I'm a senior member, trying to do a small meet up in Gangnam and or Songdo / Incheon!

Trying to limit to 2-4 people per meet up just to make logistics easier.

DM me with your telegram, simple details such as rough age, ethnicity, Korean ability, experience mongering.

Cheers mates and just a reminder that monsoon / rainy season is starting Thursday!