Seoul

[Ezinho]

I just got back from Cool and I was charged 70,000 won. Is this a new price increase for everyone or just me, I wonder?

Also, there was over an hour wait. If I go back I may have to make an appointment!

[JoyofSex]

I guess you prefer to go to RDLs with hundreds of hiddens cameras set up by the Police department to catch all the foreings while they go to get serviced like it was happening in Dangdemun for a little while back in 2004 "Have it your way mate" or maybe you prefer to fall for the undercover female police agents that they have working in front of the Hamilton Hotel in Itaewon? Or the diferrent Hotel Bars posing as prostitutes in Seoul.

Hmm, maybe I am naive. But is it really THAT dangerous?

And what actually happens if a foreigner gets caught?

[Halcyon901]

Halcyon901,

Thanks for the response. I guess I misunderstood one of your previous posts.

Maybe I'll try the Cheonho RLD out. Even 150,000 for an hour (assuming the price didn't change) is cheaper than the 180,000 I doled out each of the two anmas I visited. (Yes, I know not to do "long time".) Some more questions:

1) When negotiating, do I negotiate with the woman I'm interested in directly, or some ajumma?

2) When would be the best day of the week, and the best time of day, for me to go there? (Preferably with less guys around, but with more girls available, if possible.)

3) How is your Korean? I'm a gyopo, too, but my Korean is limited. Is this going to be a problem?

Thanks,

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I don't think a full hour at Cheon-ho is 150, 000W. I remember you can negotiate it down to about 120, 000W. I got it down to 100, 000W, but that was with a group of 4 people (also, some girls think the 100K price is for one shot, not multiple cups). Personally, I always went short time with new girls. If they were good, then I'd sign up for more time (which comes out to the same price, since its only 60K to 70K).

1- At Cheonho, most negotiations are done with the ajuma that works in the booth. You will most likely go to a sitting room, drink a beverage, and the ajuma will let you know the prices and such. She will then introduce the girls, and at some places, there are 8 girls presented. But most likely, you will see the girls at the booths beforehand.

2- The best and busiest nights are of course Friday and Saturday, but if you go around 7-8pm, that is when most of the girls starting opening their booths. I liked going at 9pm, not that many people, and lots of selection.

3- My Korean is not that great, but I can communicate enough. All you really need to know is "short-time, sam-ship-boon" (30 minutes) and han-shi-gan (1 hour), as well, as how to say 60, 000W, 70, 000W, etc.

Have fun, wish I was there!

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[Moon Sun]

I am not aware of any anmas that offer BBFS as a regular option. I know that one of my friends received BBFS at an anma, but I think that was more an exception, not the rule. I've been to other RLDs, and the only place where BBFS was available was in Cheonho. I've read other posts where someplaces in 588 offer it, but from my experience, about 20 session there, I've never been offered. Sorry I couldn't help you more. If I hear something, I'll definitely post it up. Have fun and enjoy, I wish I was back there!

Also, if you have time, check out the Dragon RLD. Its about 45 minutes outside of Seoul. I'll post up the exact location when I get the information from my friend. Apparently, its the best in Korea.

Halcyon901,

Thanks for the response. I guess I misunderstood one of your previous posts.

Maybe I'll try the Cheonho RLD out. Even 150,000 for an hour (assuming the price didn't change) is cheaper than the 180,000 I doled out each of the two anmas I visited. (Yes, I know not to do "long time".) Some more questions:

1) When negotiating, do I negotiate with the woman I'm interested in directly, or some ajumma?

2) When would be the best day of the week, and the best time of day, for me to go there? (Preferably with less guys around, but with more girls available, if possible.)

3) How is your Korean? I'm a gyopo, too, but my Korean is limited. Is this going to be a problem?

Thanks,

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[Happy Monkey]

There is a Thai Massage place near my place and also a Noraebang. I hear Noraebangs sometimes have extras. Are they only for Koreans or for foreigners too? As for the Thai Massage (That is the actual name of the place) - would they have fs? They are open really late. It's 11:30 pm now. What are the costs?

[Jojomama]

Recommendations for a good 2 for 1 deal?

Or any cosplay stuff.

Any recs would be greatly appreciated. About to leave korea and want to have a memorable night out.

[Ubique]

A report to this board is way overdue. Time to actually give back.

I’ve been a lurker and travelled the world and have benefitted from the advice and counsel of others in various regions. One day down in Seoul. Have to say it is a bit disappointing for a non-asian, non Korean North American.

For such a "free" country, the caste and "foreigner" distinction when felt personally is disturbing. Was denied at "s" anma, near GS Tower. No cabs would pick me up for 15 minutes post encounter (later). Had to ask a nice young Korean man to help me get a cab and the cab driver (non-blue) only reluctantly took me. Whatever, good thing Michener is no longer writing historical fiction.

While my being stunned at determining this was the previously posted place of adventure (S anma), I was denied by mamasan. Actually sort of humorous. I went down the stairs, with the television posted just above my head broadcasting soccer highlights or asian mtv. I couldn’t tell. The "S" as previously described appeared to me to be a backwards S. Whatever, I figured it out after going down the hill too far.

Anyway, I looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights when I went to the counter with my two word Korean vocabulary and said "massage? Either the janitor or the I'll-fitted papasan was straining a mop beside her, pretending not to notice my question. Mamasan then did the unthinkable. She motioned her hand to her mouth (BBBJ) and asked inquiringly if that was what I was seeking. Not to be one to be mercilessly nonplussed, I responded with "huh", "maybe", to which she quickly said "no", uh uh. "

I left disappointed and a bit confused, but thought, "okay, they are just being careful. " No worries. I did my research and compiled a list before my mini adventure.

Thinking Zest from previous posts was a safer bet, plus I had the phone number to give to a taxi driver, I headed to Zest.

Zest was ok. Sub par AMP in North America to be honest.

My new friend was ok. Worked hard to please, but limitations as previously posted and ymmv re. Variety and beauty in the eye of the beholder (foucoult) type of things. As I just did not click from a chemistry pov and looks pov with my flight attendant friend. I tried to cover, but it just wasn’t there. The physical make- up of the place was low frills. I guess I expected B to A – facilities. Got see to see – facilities instead. My friend was nice though and willing to serve/please and two shots. Albeit with no touching of her were aside from on the legs. Was allowed.

Have yet to go anywhere else. Frankly, freebie and perhaps take home from a salon seem more appealing, if not more daunting. Will report back if have any more favorable or negative encounters.

Hope this helps.

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[AsiaTraveler2]

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I assume they would know why I was going to AC (there's only one reason a single man goes there!).

I'm assuming you mean the fine dining? I just did a fly through and the puss .. err dining was excellent!

<On a related note, has anyone ever taken the Seoul-Clark/AC non-stop flight on Asiana Airlines? How was it?

Asiana Airlines is fine. I have only two experiences, but both times was great. I find the lessor known airlines like EVA and Asiana quite good, especially in comparison to the service levels and beauty quotient of the flight attendents we are used to in the U.S. See the links below for more reviews by others.

We have so many Asian massage parlors (AMP's predominently Korean and Vietnamese owned) in Hawaii, that it's cheaper to stay home for Korean and Vietnamese woman.

Peace,
AT2

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[Dizz Hizz]

Halcyon901, my question was this: are there anmas where BBFS is available? (Everyone, no lectures about the risks, please.) I went to two different anmas last summer, and in both cases, BBBJ was available but not BBFS. (Maybe the fact that I'm gyopo was a factor? ) I read your post last year where BBFS is available in the Cheonho RLD, but I'd rather stick with anmas.

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I've actually experienced this before but thats because I was a frequent visitor of Captains back in the days and always requested for the same girl. Perhaps it was chemistry and my wallet that got this BBFS experience but for the most part, most girls (asides from the ones at the RLDs) will not let you go bareback for obvious reasons.

[Dizz Hizz]

So, can someone explain this to me; is it illegal to visit a RLD here in Korea if you're a foreigner? I mean, is there a law that says this? I honestly never read anything about this on here before.

Here's another question. I have a Korean work visa, and I am thinking about going to Angeles City next month for a week. When Korean immigration sees my return ticket from AC, could they not allow me back into the country, or something like that?? I assume they would know why I was going to AC (there's only one reason a single man goes there!).

On a related note, has anyone ever taken the Seoul-Clark/AC non-stop flight on Asiana Airlines? How was it?

HAHA! Tons of Korean guys take the flight provided from Asiana Air so no worries and have a good time and just try to smile to cabin crew because they all know whats up over there.

[Ubique]

Thanks for the news. Very helpful. First time in Seoul on bus & staying very near the Bachus place you describe.

If I go solo to Bachus around 9 or 10 on a Friday or Saturday, do you think I can pull off bringing someone back to the room for the night?

Also, where or which anma, in your opinion does one get the best experience. I'd prefer a good 2 hour session with a lot of massage etc. The experience, atitude and looks are more important to me than cbj or full service. I've read re cool, s anma and zest but I'm wondering if there is a high end place where I can spend a few hours getting spoiled.

Will report back on my findings.

Almost all of the higher class room salons have take out available. Remember, the cost of the liquor/room at the room bang runs at least 300-400K per person, plus the takeout fee (which is negotiated in the room). The one that I know of is called Bacchus, it is located in Seolleung, near exit 1 (I think this is it, the one going towards COEX, on the opposite side, same side as the KTF Tower). After going up the exit, there will be a bus stop on the left, and a Woori Bank on the right. Make a right and go up the street, you will pass a large church on the left, a Starbucks on the right. At the next intersection, make a left, you will pass the Lotte Gold Rose officetel. Make the next left, and Bacchus is on the right. It is huge, you can not miss it, there are about 10 workers/parking attendants outside.

Around that area, there are plenty of room salons, I think a block over there is another one called Royal Salute. Honestly, I have seen some of the hottest women in that area (because there are lots of offices and businesmen working in that area). Hope this helps, but word of caution, if you are a foreignor, all bets are off. As you already know, weh-guk-in don't have too much luck in Korea.

[Halcyon901]

Halcyon901, my question was this: are there anmas where BBFS is available? (Everyone, no lectures about the risks, please.) I went to two different anmas last summer, and in both cases, BBBJ was available but not BBFS. (Maybe the fact that I'm gyopo was a factor? ) I read your post last year where BBFS is available in the Cheonho RLD, but I'd rather stick with anmas.

69

I am not aware of any anmas that offer BBFS as a regular option. I know that one of my friends received BBFS at an anma, but I think that was more an exception, not the rule. I've been to other RLDs, and the only place where BBFS was available was in Cheonho. I've read other posts where someplaces in 588 offer it, but from my experience, about 20 session there, I've never been offered. Sorry I couldn't help you more. If I hear something, I'll definitely post it up. Have fun and enjoy, I wish I was back there!

Also, if you have time, check out the Dragon RLD. Its about 45 minutes outside of Seoul. I'll post up the exact location when I get the information from my friend. Apparently, its the best in Korea.

[Coitus68]

So, can someone explain this to me; is it illegal to visit a RLD here in Korea if you're a foreigner?

It is illegal for ANYONE, Korean or foreign, to visit any den of protitution. Now when it comes to ENFORCING these laws, well, that's when they get a little more selective...

[Moon Sun]

Also, the real anmas, where services start at 180, 000W and up, some of them are spectacular! 3 on 1 service, costume-dressing (stewardess, nurse), and the SEAT (there are different versions of this, but basically, you shit on a chair, and the girl slides underneath and tosses salad! ), nothing beats it (in my opinion)! (Forgot to mention all the BBBJ's and BBFS, which isn't offered to foreigners).

Halcyon901, my question was this: are there anmas where BBFS is available? (Everyone, no lectures about the risks, please.) I went to two different anmas last summer, and in both cases, BBBJ was available but not BBFS. (Maybe the fact that I'm gyopo was a factor? ) I read your post last year where BBFS is available in the Cheonho RLD, but I'd rather stick with anmas.

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[Run Mann]

The crackdown was discussed on this site in 2005/2006 when the crackdown was in full effect. You have to read back through to find those posts. Although prostition is widely available and tolerated it is not legal in Korea, you take a chance every time you play here if you can’t pay. The Cops can bust you any time they want but they have arrangements with most of these businesses like RLDs, Anmas, Massage shops and clubs so they are leave them alone when they play them game. That story about the teacher being busted is old news, it happened during the crackdown and as I remember he was making good money but he loss it all because he got busted. Do not pay with credit cards when you go to Anmas, some people got busted after they visited Anma’s because the cops were able to identify them from their credit cards receipts

Unless you commit a serious crime in Angeles city, Korean Immigration is not going to bother you about going there. Military members and civilians frequently travel from Korea to Japan, Bangkok, Manila, Cambodia and other hot spots with no hassles from Immigration. I know some guys who had to add pages to their passport because they travel so much. Korean men are known for getting in trouble in the PI and Thailand. There’s was talk one time of prohibiting some Korean men from traveling to the PI because they were giving Korea a bad name.

I flew from Seoul to Manila (similar to the SEL-Clark Flight) on Korean Air several times and there was nothing remarkable about the flight other than the large number of Korean men travelling there to do what everyone else is doing