Seoul

[Daijek]

Dear Solbre,

I'm a 1st timer at this korean forum, and have the intention to visit korea on late this year. WAs trying to get somes tips on mongering.

But at the moment, read like korean forumer are into politics.

Daijek

[Byung]

Just like the majority of other things that koreans do and screw up...

Watch it...

[Hades]

So I went back to hypnotic tonight. I didnt have any money.

Man that was an eye opener. I said "Look I will have a drink with you" thats all I did tonight as I didnt want to blow another 50k on a BJ.

Anyhoo I talked about her profession and one sentence summed it up. "Ugly mans money, handsome money SAME". I guess I was fooling myself when I was trying to be a special nice customer, a cut above the rest. They are obsessed with the money. I know that, I am not that naive. Just had a bad night down in Itaewon I guess and seeking salvation but it was a rude shock from a sex provider.

I still cant believe a girl that hot could be working on the hill. However she has a 44 English boyfriend. I asked her what she is gonna do after working on the hill. She says get married. My god, I could marry a girl that sucks cock for a living.

It just guts me that she is soo beautiful but a ***** at the same time.

Whats wrong with me?

[Ben2]

USFK announced today that the drinking age will be raised to 21 in Korea. Some things defy logic, the powers to be are always bitching that "we are guests in Korea and must follow the local law and we will follow the local law." OK USFK, if the law in Korea is 20 with regards to drinking alcohol, what gives you the right to change the law? I thought USFK is to follow the country's law?

What...change it and or follow the law when ever you damm well please?

Anyway, the RLD's.

Just like the majority of other things that koreans do and screw up...the crackdown won't last. You will see the RLD's in business before Xmas. Look at the national crackdown to improve the driving habits in Korea. Lasted a few months and things are back to FUBAR.

Never fear, the RLD's, love hotels, massage joints, BBS will continue to operate.

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[Coupler]

Anyone know about what happen to the foreign professor that caught paying for sex in his home & got fired from the Universtiy. Has he been deported?

Deportation is automatic if you get fired for illegal behavior in this country.

[Sam Katz]

Smoke and Mirrors,

If this does happen maybe Sam Katz may return for one pop to the good ol AMP I retired so long ago. I still haven't even tried CH2 yet, one day one day.

Has anybody here been to PA AMPs besides me and Smoke?

Sam Katz

[NY Jimmy]

Did the news mention any other arrests of foreigners besides the professor?
I would predict that everything will go underground and things will be as active as before. It will be just like the AMPs and the escort scene in the US.

I would like to hear from visitors to Anmas places and barber shops and RLDs after the crackdown. I will be in Seoul this weekend and will give it a try.

Jimmy

SEOUL — Nearly 4,500 people have been arrested or charged since South Korean police kicked off a prostitution crackdown one month ago, police officials said Friday.

The arrests include people both allegedly buying or selling sex, with more than half of the arrests being men who sought sexual services at brothels, South Korean barber shops (sometimes used as prostitution fronts), massage parlors and other locations.

More than 800 brothel owners and 660 female sex workers have been arrested or charged during the crackdown, officials from the Korean National Police said. Under the new laws, brothel owners can be punished with up to 10 years in jail and a fine of up to 100 million won (around $90,000).

Some 400 sex workers were detained but released after police concluded they had been forced into prostitution.

People seeking to buy sex also can be given jail terms now, something that was not possible under previous laws.

In addition to the South Korean police crackdown, U.S. military officials have been pushing their own campaign to stop servicemembers and civilians from involvement in the sex trade and [CodeWord908]. U.S. Forces Korea has established off-limits areas and sends out “courtesy patrols” to ensure such businesses aren’t being patronized by U.S. personnel.

Violators can be charged with breaking curfew or trespassing, but under current military law cannot be charged for buying prostitutes’ services. Under a proposed change next year in the Uniform Code of Military Justice, however, such an act could result in one year’s jail time and a dishonorable discharge.

The proposed revision has drawn both praise and scorn from soldiers and civilians living overseas.

Statistics recorded by the South Korean police since the crackdown began show that nearly 25 percent of all sex workers began in the industry — whether by choice or coercion — when they were minors.

The South Korean government has estimated the entire sex trade, including legal entertainment ventures closely associated with the sex trade, brings in more than $20 billion a year. The government plans on shutting down all of the estimated 70 red-light districts in the country beginning in 2007.

Brothel owners and sex workers have protested the decision with rallies and marches, saying the government should provide them with alternate job training.

[Sam Katz]

Smoke and Mirrors,

I get your point now

A taxi driver told me the government had planned to get rid of all RLDs by 2006 anyway, not sure about anmas and barber shops and such. This is just the start i guess. he told me they already have apartment development plans in the works and businesses where RLDs used to be 588 for example. Hopefully things work out because this line of work has been in Korea forever. I highly doubt the crackdown was sparked by the states, they have been planning the crackdown for a while. The process of recruiting girls to AMPs at the states will not be effected in my opinion. I think many girls are now eager to come. I even talked to some working girls who want to come because a girl told me business is at 0%. Not one customer and the brothel shut down at Yongsan where she works.


We'll just have to wait and see what happens

Sam Katz

[Mingman]

Anyone know about what happen to the foreign professor that caught paying for sex in his home & got fired from the Universtiy. Has he been deported?

[Sam Katz]

Smoke and Mirrors,

I'm sorry If I misread your post, but do you mean slowing down as in trickle down?


I would think many girls are in line to come to the states because it is harder to make money in Korea with this crackdown. Although I also feel that in a place like Korea, girls and businesses will find a way to continue doing what they do.

Sam Katz

[Gonad Man]

For those of you feeling a little pent up and frustrated, you will be pleased to know that FRIENDS has resumed its regular service of sweet sweet massage and 'hand play'. I went back there a couple of times now and for my money it seems to be a nice relaxing way to get off without breaking a sweat. For those concerned about raids, don't worry. I noticed that they lock the door when customers are inside.

I was a little disappointed that my favorite girl of before HyunJoo had quit, but they have two new girls now so its all good.

first session: Yu Mi
Massage: 9 Really worked it hard when I asked her
HJ: 9 Exquisite.. used her nails and played with my balls throughout... perfect except she dropped it as soon as I came.. there are those 3 seconds after shooting that are the best part of the show...
Looks: Sweet girl in a cute little skirt.. i can't resist

second: Eun Ji
Massage: 8 A little light.. probably because she's a tiny girl and has trouble applying the force with those little hands (but this is made up in the HJ part)
HJ: 9.5 I love tiny hands running up and down my shaft so this was a great, slow slippery experience. No rush. My shot nearly blinded me. But again, little post-shoot touching.
Looks: Cute tiny girl (again in a short skirt)

As mentioned previously its 60,000 for an hour massage and service. The owners speak english and the place is very foreigner friendly. Check the guide for exact location.

[Byung]

Well, it's October 25. It's been one month and two days since the law went into effect. I'm still staying away. I'd like to hear from some other members who have gone and I'd like to hear what their experiences were like.

Or maybe they have no access to a computer because they're locked up.

[Run Mann]

SEOUL — Nearly 4,500 people have been arrested or charged since South Korean police kicked off a prostitution crackdown one month ago, police officials said Friday.

The arrests include people both allegedly buying or selling sex, with more than half of the arrests being men who sought sexual services at brothels, South Korean barber shops (sometimes used as prostitution fronts), massage parlors and other locations.

More than 800 brothel owners and 660 female sex workers have been arrested or charged during the crackdown, officials from the Korean National Police said. Under the new laws, brothel owners can be punished with up to 10 years in jail and a fine of up to 100 million won (around $90,000).

Some 400 sex workers were detained but released after police concluded they had been forced into prostitution.

People seeking to buy sex also can be given jail terms now, something that was not possible under previous laws.

In addition to the South Korean police crackdown, U.S. military officials have been pushing their own campaign to stop servicemembers and civilians from involvement in the sex trade and [CodeWord908]. U.S. Forces Korea has established off-limits areas and sends out “courtesy patrols” to ensure such businesses aren’t being patronized by U.S. personnel.

Violators can be charged with breaking curfew or trespassing, but under current military law cannot be charged for buying prostitutes’ services. Under a proposed change next year in the Uniform Code of Military Justice, however, such an act could result in one year’s jail time and a dishonorable discharge.

The proposed revision has drawn both praise and scorn from soldiers and civilians living overseas.

Statistics recorded by the South Korean police since the crackdown began show that nearly 25 percent of all sex workers began in the industry — whether by choice or coercion — when they were minors.

The South Korean government has estimated the entire sex trade, including legal entertainment ventures closely associated with the sex trade, brings in more than $20 billion a year. The government plans on shutting down all of the estimated 70 red-light districts in the country beginning in 2007.

Brothel owners and sex workers have protested the decision with rallies and marches, saying the government should provide them with alternate job training.

[Ranco]

a couple people have been pm me about my trip so i decided to post a summary of my adventures in korea.

i visited 02 three times, with each visit better than the last. the first trip was very memorable and detailed in my earlier post. but i learned some new things since my first visit. o2 is not so much an anma/massage parlor as it is a men's leisure center. i originally thought you paid 160,000w for the couple hours you stayed there to get serviced by the girl, but you can actually use the facilities up to 24 hours. but you only get serviced by the girl once. it's not an all you can fuck massage buffet. like a hotel, you are actually paying for the room; the soapy massage/sex, real massage, food, drinks are included in your fee. if you walk around there is a lounge to read/smoke/relax. by the entrance, there is a men's steam room, small cold pool, showers, and complimentary toiletries like cologne and nail clippers. one visit i spent over 6 hours resting, watching tv, having lunch, napping, and getting serviced. the management recommends coming late at night if you want to spend the night. they run out of rooms during the early evenings, but since most people leave after they're serviced, there are plenty of rooms in the late evening. i recommend using o2 as an alternative to a motel or hotel. where else in the world are you going to get accomidations for the night, along with food, drinks, cigarettes, legit massage, soapy massage, and sex under one roof? they even take credit cards for 170000w.

management prefers korean speaking customers not because they're worried about std's, but because it can get a bit confusing with the ushers' instructions, food orders, massage instructions, and telephone calls from the front desk. even the bath service can get a little complicated. if you're not korean, they ask that you come with a korean friend so he can explain. i think if you can speak korean, they'll let you in, even if you're not korean.

i asked the management and the girls about the crackdown. as plaything also noted, they don't seem very worried about le. i also suspect there is some payola involved.

i don't remember the girl's names, but they all have a similar routine, with slight variations in the order and service. one girl gave me a shave, another gave me a face massage instead, another rinsed me about 4 times, another only once, one girl kept her fishnet stockings on all through the massage, another took them off as soon as we got in the tub. all the girls were very professional and pretty, but some were better than others. one girl did not ream during the massage, another didn't dfk, but all the girls practice safe sex. one girl mentioned she works 12-18 hour shifts and naps whenever she gets a break. she said sometimes she can see over a dozen customers in a day. it's a good thing she's constantly bathing. i think that's why the girls always look a little tired and sleepy. i suspect there are about 2-4 girls working throughout the day and evening.

i tried another anma place in seoul and i got ripped off. i paid 70000w, and i thought wow, i'm getting one hell of a bargain. instead of rooms, they had stables. (hard to explain, but you'll recognize them if you ever see them). you lie down and they wash your feet and give you a short lousy massage. then the girl takes your underwear off pretends to give you a bj and lies down on top of you and pretends to ride you. i didn't complain when the girl was leaning on my body, covering my view, and pretending to give me a bj. i knew she was faking it with her hand. but when it came down to the sex, i got really pissed off. i know the difference between pussy and a finger ring, so i kept asking her to stop fiddling around. she insisted it was her pussy but wouldn't let me look. she was straining in weird positions and her hands were not where they should be, so i asked to change positions. she wouldn't let me change positons so i told her to stop the charade and just jack me off proper. so she got up and gave me a hand job, but i needed additional stimulation/retribution so i had my fingers in a very unpleasant orifice the entire time she was working.

there are plenty of anma's still open in seoul. some are legit and some are not. if it costs less than 20000w to get in, it's a legit place. the only thing you'll get there is a back scrubbing from an old man. if it costs more than 100000w, you'll probably get sex. if it costs around 50000w, it's either a really upscale legit anma with lots of chinese mineral water and medicinal salt, or a really shitty fake fuck *****house. be warned, you get what you pay for, and most often times, even less. and i would also recommend that you do not loose your temper or throw a fit if the service is less than anticipated. many of these non legit places are run by local thugs or hire muscle to control problems as surely as they would arise from a rip off joint; they probably expect it. as frustrated as i was, there is no way i'm fighting 3 korean goons in my underwear after receiving a rushed handjob. they can just as easily call the police and say you propositioned/assulted/raped/threatened the girl. just appear very satisfied, no matter how bad the service, and for good measure, ask if the same girl is working tomorrow because you'd like to bring a friend. leave on good terms and don't come back.

now for some good news. i visited miari 5 times and got serviced 5 times without any problems. the first time was with a girl with an average body but pretty face. good typical service. that was the test run; i was really nervous and cautious and had a hard time enjoying myself. the second time was with a thin girl with a very pretty face and great personality. very enjoyable service. the third was this incredible tiny spinner with a bit of a square face. outstanding service; i wanted to come back the same day but didn't have time. the fourth was this girl with an average face but nice body with real saddle bag titties. good typical service. the last visit was the day before my asiana flight, so i squeezed in o2 in the morning and visited miari in the evening. average face and body but good conversationalist. talked alot about the crackdown and the future of miari; lots of interesting insights. since it was the second nut of the day, it took a little while, and i felt bad for pounding away like a machine for 20 minutes.

i realized a little too late to ask for the shop's phone number or address before you leave if you really like a particular girl. some shops won't give out their number because of the crackdown and will ask you to leave your number. (dont. if they get busted, le can track down your phone number.) i don't even remember how to get back to some of the places i really enjoyed. some i entered through the front, and some through the side alleys, and some through a maze of doors. so remember to get the shops phone number and the girls name before you leave or you'll never find the place again.

pricing has changed somewhat. it looks like the shops are more open to negotiation. at first i was paying the 60-70000w fee, but because of the crackdown, it's a buyer's market. i started negotiating for 50000w and got it several times. one lady said there is a difference between 50000w service and 70000w service, but after i paid the mamasan 50000w, the girl didn't even know how much i paid.

so pussy can still be had in seoul. you just have to be more careful and risk getting arrested or deported. but i tell you, some of the pussy i've had in the last couple days was worth the risk. man, i wish i can find that square faced spinner again....be careful and good luck, she's out there somewhere.

[Snaspro]

Nedski, et al.

First, re-reading my post, gawd awful typist! As for Cozy, I just talked with three different girls, one, So-hee, remembered my name after four months, named! I was impressed. There was a 20 year old (Korean age), a proud Gangnam HS grad, named Su-hee. The manager said she had to check her age before working. Had a short dance with another. Spent alot of cash, but it was fun.

The only "action" I saw in Cozy was one or two custumers with their arms around the girls. Me? I never touch the girls! I am fed by bright intelligent conversation, which means I go hungry alot in Korean drinking bars.

Cozy is smaller and less classy than Justins. If you hang aroun long enoguh you get free steamed yams.

"Classic Korean rail" in my previous post meant the girl was not a "rail" (skinny and light on top), but she was still attractive.

Another update/correction, I heard now the USFK curfew is 0100 based on a colleague listening to local English radio, which I never listen too.