Seoul

[Real Meat]

I'm an English teacher in Seoul.

Here's some advice I have for the Korean men:

You need to focus on your own strengths, rather than worrying about what others think about.

It's called having a "positive attitude."

They say: "It's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it that counts."

Learn from this Korean men, and turn your "weakness" in to a "strength."

Learn to maneouver your equipment with the skill of the Korean soccer team and you might actually be able to steal back some of your chicks from us foreigners.

Now I'm not trying to sound patronizing here, I'm just trying to give you guys some good advice.

Maybe spend less time playing Starcraft and drinking Soju and spend more time learning how to please your women and you may actually have a chance against us waygooks.

The K-Girls love us because we are attentive to their needs; being particularily "large" viz-a-viz Korean men is just incidental to the attraction.

[RW_75]

Been away from Seoul for just under a year but now am back. Took the last hour or so to read a lot of the posts dating back to April. There is one thing I noticed. Hardly any mention of Hooker Hill in Itaewan. Except for the occassional "avoid it". Has it really gone down hill or is it just better places have been found?

Anyone seen Gina lately? I forget the name of her bar but I believe that it was the second one on the right hand side going up the hill.

[NY Yankees]

Moolman,

Whoa, a very excellent report. Once I got grabbed by this girl at 588 and it was right after the rain had stopped. She pulled on my umbrella and the damn thing broke. As much as I love going window shopping, the grabbing part is the one part that does get a little too annoying. If you're not good at bargaining your way out or telling bullshit stories, these girls will eat you until you succumb to their offers. They are like police interrogators, they can smell and detect fear just like that.
I once took a friend who was totally innocent and new to this, he was stiff and nervous throughout the whole walk and when a girl grabbed him, I felt so sorry for him, he not knowing what to do. By the end, he was so shy that I had to go and approach the girl that he wanted to sleep with.
Although I've been grabbed countlessly, I've never had the guts like you to grab their goodies right there and then. I'm not that brave... yet. It did cross my mind many times but I just couldn't do it out in the open. Well the fact that I've never been to YJG and I don't know how different the atmosphere is from 588 and I don't think I've seen anyone grab the girls' goodies at 588. Still your story makes sense, check out the goods before you buy them.
I like chicks with at least a B cup and most korean chicks are on the A side or flat. I've been deceived numerous times. Most times you can detect whose got big knockers and whose are merely paddings. But a few times, my eyes have deceived me and the final product doesn't turn out as good as I thought. Ever since my many failures, I've made it my mission to ask them flat out what their boob sizes are. To know that I might be able to grab and check them out is just too tempting.
Now I'm REALLY desperate to check out YJG. But as I'm away from seoul at the moment, all I can do is dream...

Oh btw, at 588 and yongsan, they charge 1200k for overnight(12 hrs)and not 1000k as I've mentioned before. Of course this was the quoted price for locals but I'm pretty sure non-koreans can get the same deal from those areas that accept non-koreans. They told me the above was the flat price but bargaining could be a slight possibility. I once took out an overnight with a dream babe at 588. But instead of 12hrs she stayed for 24hrs. Ofcourse this can only be done if you take her out of her shop and to your dungeon. During the 12hrs you can take her out and do whatever the hell you want. But this probably won't work in YJG since there are no places to go. Anyway 1200k or 1000k they are both crazy money.

[TheContinental]

Holy Cow Seoulman that was quite a post. With regards to what girls accept, well I think a little money will do all the talking. Plenty of posts on this board about parlors that gladly service international visitors.

But this idea of nationalism within the prostitution industry is an interesting one. I wonder, does this nationalism spring from the Park era? If I can remember, some of these girls were actually convinced by the Park admin that servicing foreigners was patriotic, since it would keep them away from the rest of society.

Nationalism is definitely ensconced within the business sector: Early on building the economy was first and foremost about solidifying national sovereignty and stabilizing the regime. But this is a new type of nationalism. I think it stems from the fact that, although these girls may be frowned upon, the fact is that in such a materialistic society, these girls are doing much better (financially) than many people their age. So, given this new equality, they too can participate in the same kind of nationalism everybody else does. In effect, they have some kind of status to protect, just like everyone else.

[New World Order]

Hi there Moolman~~~

Damn, that was an awesome post my friend!!!

So the girl was asking for a million won for the whole night?

One working girl at YJG told me that if I come at around 5am, I can have the girl until around 11am for around 300,000. So a week later, I had a girl for 6 hours for 300,000. She was a goddess!!! DAAAAAMN haha LOL

Anyway, I will be back in Korea in a week or two.

I would like to go to YJG with you.

If you are willing to drive, I will treat you to dinner and a drink!!!

Sincerely,

New World Order

[Mookman]

Hi everyone,

This is the 2nd time I'm writing this report because there was some kind of glitch last time.

Well, I had a layover in Korea so I decided to take a little trip to YJG, in my previous post, I already posted the directions, just remember to look for Camp Stanton and you found it.

So I head out from my hotel at around 9:30pm, I rented a car since the taxi fare would be more expensive. YJG is about 40km or more outside Seoul. The rain was coming down really hard, so I got lost numerous times so it took me until about midnight to find it. Risky life and limb I had to search for some action and also so I could post a good report here. I was pretty bored that night so I thought it would be a better experience than watch TV in my hotel room. Also, when I rate the girls here, I believe my ratings system is very good since I do know what a good looking Korean girl is. Just as a side note, someone who's judgement I trust reported to me about going to Finkle barbershop and finding that the girls that were rated here as a 9 were more like a 5 or average in their opinion. So for reference sake, I would say that a 10 from me is like a 20 on the other scale. Anyway, back to my ramblings.

Coming in to town where YJG is located, you can see the bright lights that stick out, like looking for the Emerald City. The town is a very plain town, a couple of stores and resturants. You'll see some guys coming out of the alley ways so you know you found the place. YJG is located between the police station and the river. It's about 100 yards of the street and runs maybe 200-300 yards deep, anyway, it's really deep with so many different alley ways that if you split up with a friend you'll never find each other for an hour, especially with all the girls grabbing you, but that's another story for later. Don't worry about the cops, they are there to protect you from the girls. The cops are cracking down on the girls grabbing guys and messing up their clothes. Do not wear any clothes that are either nice or expensive, they will get ruined once the grabbing begins. There are I think 4 entrances to YJG, one is a big drive way along the river that leads to the parking lot in the back and the other 3 are alley way entrances. The drive way has tents setup so the rain is kept out, kinda convenient since it is rainy season. Do not park in the parking lot in the back, it'll waste too much time going down the road because every girl will step in front of your car trying to get you to take them and come back to your house with them. You don't want to get stopped in a car since you don't get to touch. Also, you want to see the selection, you can't go with the first thing you see.

Anyway, park in any empty spot on the street, most of the stores are closed already so you can park anywhere as long as you don't block the driveway to the police station, which is what I almost did. Enter through one of the small entrances. This time around I was determined to walk the whole place looking for my "10". So I can testify that this place is just huge, maybe bigger than I described plus all the alley ways look the same.

I parked my car and chose the first small entrance I saw, the first house I see there's a girl there, about a 7, instantly grabs my collar and will not let go. She had the grip of death on me. The bad of being grabbed is that you want to be on your way so you can find the girl you want, also your clothes are getting messed up. The good is you get to touch the merchandise before buying. So since this girl was grabbing me, I decided to grab her, I felt her breast which were nice, overall good body, I had to pinch her nipples so that she would let go of me. The only fault I see on her is that her face had some blemishes that she was hiding with make up. I'm on my search for my 10, so I can't settle now, also I wanted to check out the whole place so I could report back. So I give her a BS story about looking for my friends and pinched her nipples until she let go. Then I quickly walked off, not a bad waste of 10 minutes grabbing some ass and tits, better than any strip club I've been to in the states. So, I take walk down the next alley way and see the rows of girls, many very cute, the next girl that grabs me is an absolute knockout, perfect 10, she had a small firm body, nice breast which I had to feel since she was grabbing me and an adorable face about 5'3". The girls here seem to wear different out fits from absoulute trashy to the going clubbing look. I would of stayed with this 10 but I had to search out all of YJG, don't even want to settle on the first 10 I see. So for 5 minutes I just touched her all over but she wouldn't let go with her death grip, so I did what any respectable guy should do. I reached down into her pants and pull on her pubic hair. This was my last resort because my shirt was seriously stretched out. She did start kissing my neck and I almost went in with her but I was still determined to see all of YJG.

I pretty much went down almost every alley way but I couldn't tell because it was so big, I would say there were about 150 girls that I saw, most were in the 7-8 range and out of the 150 about 20-30 were 10's. Absolutely, beautiful and adorable. These 10's could be definite models, as good looking as any korean actress that you see on TV. The main driveway seemed to have the best looking girls compared to the small alley ways. I had a few more instances of being grabbed but I pleaded my case of finding my friends, got some good feels and I was on the search for my 10.

I go down this one alley and a girl dressed very plainly who's not that bad about a 6 grabs me and says, it's not about how the girl looks but the service that you will remember. So I'm thinking, you must have ugly girls at your house. She promises me the best experience of my life and that if I give her a chance I'll be coming back for more everytime. I was about to ditch her when in her house I see the perfect 10 that I came searching for. She was wearing a tennis outfit, skirt and shirt, trimmed in yellow. Highlighted hair, 5'4", decent size breasts, good body but her face was amazing, no blemishes and the perfect smile that calls you over. So I have been walking around for awhile so I decide to give in. Also, they did promise me good service so why not, let's see what she has in store. I get led up stairs to her room. In YJG, the girls live in the rooms, it is their personal bed that you are on. The rooms are a lot bigger than the closet you get at Miari. There was a queen size bed, TV, dolls, all the personal effects that a girl would have. So payment always comes first, the prices I was quoted are the following:

70K for short time ~20 min
150K for longer time ~45 min
1000K for all night, yup that's right almost $800 US dollars for all nighter, wow, I guess some people can afford that one.

Not that my girl wasn't worth that much, she looks like a model and is totally adorable. She was 21 years old and said she worked there right under a year. I'm told to undress and take a shower in the bathroom. She goes down to get change for me, I only had $100 bill on me. I kind rinse off the body and 3 minutes later she walks in nude and starts to soap me up. I'm standing and she's got a loof in her hand soaping my body from head to toe, paying special attention to my little buddy. Also she cleans between my ass like 5 times, so we all know what that means. She did have me brush my teeth for kissing but I don't like kissing but those who want the total GFE experience will truly enjoy. She hands me a towel and I dry off and tells me to lie face down on the bed. She's also washing up, so I'm check her out, she's got firm breast, decently big for a korean, I would estimate a C cup, good perky nipples that stick out and a full set of pubic hair, which I prefer over shaved. So, I'm on my stomach she gets on top of me and starts the usual licking, starts from my neck and goes down to behind my knee, I'm all shaking because it's so ticklelish, it's driving me nuts. She starts up back from my knees, opens my butt cheeks and gives me a slow, long rim job for a good minute. This girl has got skills with her tongue. Now she tells me to turn over and again the licking from neck to toe, then I didn't realize this but she had some ice and hot tea for the fire/ice blow job. I didn't even expect or ask for this, I'm a newbie at this so this was my first experience with this one. So she crunches down on some ice and starts on the BBBJ, not to fast and not too slow, this girl was pretty amazing. Then she takes a gulp of the hot tea and starts up again for awhile. I was being a lazy bastard and didn't really want to start banging away since her BBBJ was so good that I motioned that I wanted to finish off with the BJ. So she's switching back and forth between the ice and tea and finally I'm ready to blow, so I asked if I could cumm in her mouth which she motioned to me that it was ok, I also asked if she swallowed but she motioned once again that she spit. I finally blow my load and she keeps going at it. You know after you cumm you're so sensitive and she kept going at it, it felt so good but also like torture so after a minute I had to stop her because I thought my body was going into shock. This whole time, of course I'm touching her whole body as best I can. She then goes to the bathroom to spit out and brush her teeth. I also cleaned up, gave some chit chat and I was on my way. On my way out,

I was once again grabbed and did more touching but after awhile I got tired of it and just didn't look the girl's way. They started to make fun of me, saying don't worry we won't bother you, don't look scared.. haha... yeah, I was determined to get out of their finally because the rain was getting bad. I found my car and I was on the way back to Seoul, which was a lot faster since I didn't get lost.

I had a good time with a perfect 10, got some good service that will make me comeback for more. Hope you all enjoyed my report. I'm probably going to cool down for a bit. I've been on this STD scare, just getting bad feelings.

Good luck to you all.

[Love Taipei]

It is sad that this Seoul page has degraded to attacks and counterattacks on/from Koreans & Han Mi's.

Stick to the fact

[Ho Man]

[look how they acted when the military allegedly killed those two girls!
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...allegedly?????

[New World Order]

Greetings,

To all the non-Koreans, I am sorry if the working girls do not accept you.

But what can we do?

Trust me, there are a lot of Korean (non-pros) girls who are openminded and would love to meet a foreigner.

English Institutes, Itaewon, HongDae, etc. They are all over the place.

I am stuck here in the Twin Cities (Minnesota) on business.

This has got to be the most boring state in America!

I went to a Kansas City Royals-Minnesota Twins game. While walking to the ballpark, I saw two girls smile at me. But when I looked back at them, they were also smiling at other guys. Were they working girls? If so, I am going back. LOL

Sincerely,

New World Order

[NY Yankees]

Originally posted by seoulman
so yeah and no never in any of my messages do I distriminate koreans or bash the koreans!!
I make generalizations and facts which are real!!

Let others be the judge of that. All your posts contain humor that borders on mockery and sarcasm regarding the behaviors of koreans. Again, I never disputed your facts. Although generalization is nothing but an euphemism for stereotyping, they do at times point to the truth. I don't recall saying what you said were false and untrue. So don't get worked up on that.

yes of course racism and distrimination is prevalent in the US and other 1st countries!!
BUT!! even though it goes on Those countries dont have signs up on their front doors! NO FOREIGNERS!!
NO BLACKS!
Foreigners must pay double!
Asian only club!!
NON ASIANS ALLOWED!
sorry we only serve whites!
NO KOREANS!!
get my drift!!!
you tell me where in NYC did you see a club or a brothal say that!?
I dont want to start an Argument or get this board totally off topic which we should be talking about sex!!
I was childish to post that first post I admit but its true never the less!
if you wish to debate me further on , that korea is nothing like I say then we can do it in Email!!
thanks

Signs or no signs that's not really the point is it? So in your terms, having no signs but if racism or discrimination did exist, that is tolerable? Come to think of it, isn't that actually worse? That's pretty much like a wolf in sheep's clothing. And I actually haven't seen any of the signs that you've mentioned in any RLDs, bath houses or barbershops. Well did see a "no korean" sign at some club in Itaewon.
Of course some clubs and brothels welcome you with open arms back in NYC but I've walked into a few where I've gotten that look that tells me I'm not too welcomed. Furthermore I've been denied service a few times(mostly via the phone or through email) due to my race but I always try to give the girls the benefit of the doubt that to them race is merely a preference and not an issue. Again, read my posts, I never said korea is nothing like what you said. I was merely pointing out that they could be done with out the wicked humor and sarcasm. Play a fair game, don't hit below the belt. On a brighter note, maybe all of us are just frustrated with our work and desperately need to get laid. Lack of sex is driving our minds to wander into other frivolous nonsense. So let's get on with it...

[Mookman]

Seoulman,

I'm responding to your posts as soon as I see them but I am still a regular member so there is a couple of days delay.

Since you are specifically, quoting my post, I'll will answer any critizisms and questions.

Now you must take my statements in context of my whole message. It's like cults leaders who take one passage from the bible and think they are Jesus or Muslims who take one passage from the koran and become terrorists.

My whole sentence was:

"I think that's kinda understandalbe since if I had to take my chances, I that's what I would do, even though that that doesn't guarentee shit."

See that last part about not guarenteeing anything about not having STDs. I never said they should discriminate against non-Koreans. I never said that it was right to only serve koreans at brothels.

The whole context of my post was that these girls are not very intelligent and they have no concept of STD prevention and condom use.

When I said I think that it's understandable they don't take foreigners, I was empathizing with them, as in, if I was in their shoes and I was a hooker regardless of a korean hooker or some other country AND I wanted to play my chances with someone having an STD or not, I would say that the local people have a less chance of STD because they don't travel around as much to countries which have a higher rate of AIDS. Now like I said, it "doesn't guarentee shit" but I am saying that I understand their position on the subject.

Of course Koreans guys travel around Asia, going to thailand, philippines etc catching an STD but what I'm saying is I understand their position of taking their chances with a local since obviously they might not travel as much as a foreigner in the county, who is obviously traveling around using brothels.

Anyway, I hope all this makes sense and let's please get back onto the subject at hand. I do have some field reports to post, like I said in my previous posts.

Mool

[Cavechu]

I don't know what the big deal is if Korean don't service non-koreans. It's their rights to refuse just like McDonald has the right to refuse service to customer w/o shirt or shoe. It's there country and they operate however they want, if you don't like it then just move to another asian country if you still hung on asian pussies. Why wget work up over it if their men like to do it w/o country? whoring is a risky business from the get go why fool yourself thinking otherwise. South Korean exist to ensure it own alpha male ego just as the USA exist to fosture it own alpha male ego.

[Seoulman]

Originally posted by NY Yankees
By your phrase, you are saying there are no discrimination in other countries... Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Korea has it's downsides and I do prefer the States thousand times more but I've seen worse things in NYC than in seoul. Every country has its pros and cons.
Reading all your messages, you seem to take great pleasure in bashing koreans and its culture. I'm fine with positive criticism but your post does nothing but fuel unnecessary controversies. Again, I'm not saying what you wrote doesn't exist but how you said it that's remarkable crude and childish.
Further, your reply to moolman doesn't make any sense. You are missing the point. He is criticizing the foolishness of the women and not being gullible.

I suggest you read both messages again!
he said
" I think that's kinda understandalbe since if I had to take my chances, I that's what I would do"

so yeah and no never in any of my messages do I distriminate koreans or bash the koreans!!
I make generalizations and facts which are real!!

yes of course racism and distrimination is prevalent in the US and other 1st countries!!
BUT!! even though it goes on Those countries dont have signs up on their front doors! NO FOREIGNERS!!
NO BLACKS!
Foreigners must pay double!
Asian only club!!
NON ASIANS ALLOWED!
sorry we only serve whites!
NO KOREANS!!
get my drift!!!
you tell me where in NYC did you see a club or a brothal say that!?
I dont want to start an Argument or get this board totally off topic which we should be talking about sex!!
I was childish to post that first post I admit but its true never the less!
if you wish to debate me further on , that korea is nothing like I say then we can do it in Email!!
thanks

P.S.

went to the SUWON redlight district near SUWON station
MAN their is some TALENT!!
the place is over crowded at least 7-8 girls in one booth!
and young I'd say university girls paying their way through college or bad depts etc.. anyway all dressed in sexy clothes..
they dont take foreigners! but I saw indians and some foreigners walking around! I went there a few times during worldcup..
they didnt even look my way...
they will take a physically challenged korean man, or old man in his 60's before they take a brad pitt looking 28 years old foreigner
emmmmmmmm

[TheContinental]

Originally posted by NY Yankees
(1)I really don't know why you have to bring about your criticism of Korean society at every chance that you get.

(2)Otherwise, we wouldn't be posting stuff on this website for the benefit of non-koreans.

SEOULBLADE: Economy and the social world are two different things. I may be a foreigner but I know the difference between privilege and preference / choice. Yes, the Koreans may have gotten help from outside countries, but let's be real, please--we don't get automatic privilege in that way.

(1)First of all, look at any one of my posts and you will see I have not brought up criticism of Korean society; Rather, I have simply responded to posts I feel may be bias toward one side of an argument. For example, when someone posed the idea that BGs were afraid of foreigners due to STDs, I simply brought up the point that STDs are very common in Korean society as well, including young women/non-pros (although maybe not AIDs or Herpes, but many of the usual minor STDs).

(2)Look what you wrote above. C'mon, you must admit you sound like you're doing certain people here a big favor. But, it is your choice to post here. No one is forcing you.

SEOULBLADE: My point was that you cannot invite people to your country to help reconstruct it, and not expect them to be at least mildly interested in participating in other aspects of it; You cannot embrace globalization and expect people to be uninterested in the foreign "merchandise" (so to speak).
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In any case, it is Summer time here in the US, and the Korean ladies are looking very nice.

Still no posts about the Hongdae scene?

[NY Yankees]

Originally posted by seoulman

one last thing IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!
and other civalized countries!!!
ITS ILLEGAL TO DISCRIMINATE!!!
ILLEGAL!! you can be arrested or your business closed down!!
Korea has a long way to go before they can be labelled Decent humans!!!

By your phrase, you are saying there are no discrimination in other countries... Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Korea has it's downsides and I do prefer the States thousand times more but I've seen worse things in NYC than in seoul. Every country has its pros and cons.
Reading all your messages, you seem to take great pleasure in bashing koreans and its culture. I'm fine with positive criticism but your post does nothing but fuel unnecessary controversies. Again, I'm not saying what you wrote doesn't exist but how you said it that's remarkable crude and childish.
Further, your reply to moolman doesn't make any sense. You are missing the point. He is criticizing the foolishness of the women and not being gullible.