Taipei

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I know that the underground massage places such as Pandora or Crystal Flower are still requiring a QR code scan to enter, so I'm still a bit apprehensive about that. But what about the thai / viet JKF girls who use private "studio"/ apartments and hotel rooms? Do you guys think it's safe to go back to those places now that Covid regulations are relaxing?

[Kumagawa]

I enjoy Taiwan as I speak fluent Chinese. But never tried the mongering scene when I was there. Just saw that you vets recommend jkforum. Are the talents really this high quality according to the photos? Or are they bait and switch like any other place?

Almost entirely bait and switch. You have to really focus on the comments and read diary entries to get to the truth.

[OldHickory]

If there's a face, it's a bait and switch. If there's no face, but the photos are professional quality, it's a bait and switch. If there's no face, and the photos look they were taken from a cellphone or digitally altered, there should be some semblance between what is on offer and the photo.

I would also like to point out, that if you open dialogue with the manager who you're talking to and ask for a recommendation or a lineup, one should be provided. If they don't want to recommend, or they don't ask you to come in and choose, it's likely going to be a disappointing experience, unless you like older women or whatever.

What you see is never what you get in Taiwan.

[RauziTransform]

I enjoy Taiwan as I speak fluent Chinese. But never tried the mongering scene when I was there. Just saw that you vets recommend jkforum. Are the talents really this high quality according to the photos? Or are they bait and switch like any other place?

Public photos of Taiwanese girls are almost all fake. Non-Taiwanese. Are sometimes real, sometimes heavily edited, sometimes fake.

I would get access to one of the linsenbei stores we alluded to earlier via jkf and go from there. Again photos aren't accurate but there are reliable managers and you can always check the girls out in person before booking.

[FreeSheep]

I enjoy Taiwan as I speak fluent Chinese. But never tried the mongering scene when I was there. Just saw that you vets recommend jkforum. Are the talents really this high quality according to the photos? Or are they bait and switch like any other place?

[OldHickory]

Out of curiosity are you Taiwanese or a foreigner. I don't think I've ever seen a foreigner / non-Chinese speaker at one.

I'm a white American who speaks, reads, and writes passable Chinese. It's clear that I'm a foreigner when chatting with me via LINE or whatever. And I've only been declined service a few times. The most recent was at the outbreak of COVID. Any other time they're just curious when I'm chatting in Chinese, and conversational Chinese is indeed the key to service in Taiwan.

[RauziTransform]

Out of curiosity are you Taiwanese or a foreigner. I don't think I've ever seen a foreigner / non-Chinese speaker at one.

But yeah, they're not hard to find, JKF linsenbei section definitely has a few but those are just the tip of the iceberg. I'd highly recommend having a good agent or friends to get more info on the girls and the service each offers and for roughly how much. It's not consistent. When I started a few years ago I did get a few misses and "stepped on thunder" but agents / managers have since gotten more reliable with providing information as familiarity increased. Price wise most of the good ones run for at least around 6 k each for everything.

[OldHickory]

I would be interested in some of these details as well please.

I think this information has been covered at length on the forum. I don't want to be cryptic, but there are also other websites where you can find my reviews under a different name for places like Crystal Flower or Pandora - though that is not the limit to the names of the locations. Sometimes they're labelled by number, sometimes they're labelled by different name by different managers or agents, sometimes it's all the same.

If you'd like more information I can give it, provided you can hunt me down for communication. I tried setting up meet and greets before on this forum, and all my posts got knocked down.

[AsiaFever]

You and I are talking about the same sorts of places then. Indeed there are "tons" in the area, and my agents have confirmed that they have received quite a stock of "fish" recently.

My agents have all been recommending a "come and see" -- meaning lineup, so they're definitely fully operational.

I would be interested in some of these details as well please.

[OldHickory]

I actually don't know that specific one by name but underground, locked doors, need to have a manager / agent all sound correct. My understanding is that there are tons of them in the area but I've only been to 6 or so of them total.

You and I are talking about the same sorts of places then. Indeed there are "tons" in the area, and my agents have confirmed that they have received quite a stock of "fish" recently.

My agents have all been recommending a "come and see" -- meaning lineup, so they're definitely fully operational.

[RauziTransform]

I've checked a bunch and I think that all the Eastern Europeans girls have left since when the outbreak started in May. If anyone has word of any that are still around and / or when they start coming back that'd be great.

[Exile]

For a quite long time I was looking for a shaved girl in JKF and almost didn't success. Hualian, Yilan, Taidong, few providers from Taipei. The only one (actually two) I found are located in Jaoxi (my provider gave me the info but I will have to contact another guy to make an appointment). Do you have similar experience?

A real white tiger is naturally hairless and rare but if you're simply trying to find a shaved girl, it's fairly common now.

[RauziTransform]

I assume you're talking about the underground shops like Crystal Flower or other such places behind locked doors? Where you need to contact a manager to enter?

I would not have expected them to be full of jiudian girls, thanks for the intel, I'll follow up.

I actually don't know that specific one by name but underground, locked doors, need to have a manager / agent all sound correct. My understanding is that there are tons of them in the area but I've only been to 6 or so of them total.

There's definitely a wider selection of girls at on hours than, say earlier this year before covid. "Full" is maybe an overstatement but the jiudian girls need to work somehow until they're open again. The really good new ones you tend to have to book in advance and "gamble" on your agent being honest / correct about them actually being that good. I tend to book a regular or ask for a lineup and pick one and then chill around for a bit after and ask the managers about the really hot ones that walk by and then book them next time.

[Amazake]

Yeah there is a QR code the entrance of all massage parlors. Giving your details to the government about visiting these places I'm not sure about.

I have no fear giving up a tracking code to a massage parlor. There are thousands in Taiwan, as massage is interwoven into the daily fabric of Taiwanese lifestyle. What goes on inside could range from therapeutic legit to God know's what. Once the door is closed, it all falls under the general rubric of "massage. " It is a legal establishment. If they maintain a storefront and the government allows it to be open for business, you have a right to get your "massage," however you interpret that to mean.

[AsiaFever]

I saw yesterday that most of the spas seem to be open and have customers. Do you (or anybody) know if they're requiring tracing at tracking with the QR codes? That sketches me out.

Yeah there is a QR code the entrance of all massage parlors. Giving your details to the government about visiting these places I'm not sure about.