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[Abc Boy]

Thanks again ABC Boy! I think am leaning towards the quality route for the upcoming trip. Should I just tell my manager straight up to take me to Emperor? Or is it better to let him know my requirements and let him decide on the joint like the first time I went?

Not all managers have pull at Emperor, you really need to rely on him to take you around to the places he does have the pull. However, if you want quality route, there are really two places that is known to have the best quality of girls: Emperor and Taipei97.

Also, if he can only deliver uniform shops, that means he's a low-end manager. Ask to go to non-uniform shops and go to "plain clothes shops" or "dress clothes shops" and see what he says. If he makes excuses, it's time for a new manager as you'll never get high quality girls with him.

[Smuttynose]

After reading many posts about Kanding/Guiling area I decided to take a stroll there myself. Went yesterday on a rainy, miserable day and found the area filled with 50 YO ladies sitting on mopeds eyeing you as soon as you walk close. There were also some standing on the street, but in the bright daylight these women could not entice anyone to go with them.

Daytime isn't the best time to visit that area, so this sounds about right. Nighttime has a much better selection, though it is still a bit limited. However, so far I've enjoyed a couple rides around the area during the day when I had the time, just because the area has that raunchy feeling, and the hunt can be fun.

I remembering seeing a barber shop near the entrance to Kanding Road and decide to try that.

Can you be more specific? What entrance? Where it meets Heping, or does it start north of there in the Ximen area?

She cleaned me up and put on her panties and I thought there something very hot about this kind of dirty, backroom sex.

Sounds fun. Was there any time limit? I hate being rushed, but I hear that everything in this area around that price has 15 min. Time limit. Thanks for the report!

[Hollow Man Abc]

Dear Senior Members:

Just wonder, when you take these high-end girls outside the KTV for FS, do these girls offer BBBJ and GFE experiences ? Can we find any Russian/ Eastern European girls for FS in Taipei ??

[Ragnarok42]

After reading many posts about Kanding/Guiling area I decided to take a stroll there myself. Went yesterday on a rainy, miserable day and found the area filled with 50 YO ladies sitting on mopeds eyeing you as soon as you walk close. There were also some standing on the street, but in the bright daylight these women could not entice anyone to go with them. After walking around I finally decided to try one of the places that advertised "massage" on the 2nd floor and walked up.

Place was really dimly lit with beds and small red lamps, think Sanchong shacks on a power shortage. The lady said there was only 2 girls available and that "full service" was 2K and "part service" was 1K. But the "girl" that showed up was unfuckable and I said no thanks but I would come back later. So so far I have an idea that FS is available but nothing interests me.

I remembering seeing a barber shop near the entrance to Kanding Rd and decide to try that. Typical setup , guy at the door walks me upstairs to a room that has NO DOOR. So right away I am thinking no fun to be had, but then again many places have rooms upstairs so I think why not. The woman they give me is not too bad (all relative to what I have seen so far mind you) so I agree to a 2-hour massage for 1800 and the girl gets her towels and stuff. Been a while since I have sat in a barbershop chair and gotten a massage. So about 20 min into it I ask if there are any "special services", the girl gets real close and whispers that they dont allow it but she will let me do it for 1000 extra. I agree and she go gets her stuff.

I was assuming she would take me uptairs but no she come back into the room and takes off my pants. Now the lack of a door is a little strange and I was expecting some guy to jump in and bust me. But the girl started to give me a BBBJ while taking off her panties and stripping down her bra. I was suprised by her firm, tight breasts and little nipples. She soon got on top and boy she was tight. I decided to let her do all the work and let her ride me until I finished and I could tell she enjoyed it too. She cleaned me up and put on her panties and I thought there something very hot about this kind of dirty, backroom sex. She continued to massage me for another 10 min before I left and got her number. So in the end damages were 2800, you can probably find FS for 2000 or less but be prepared to say no a few times or lower your standards. Have no idea if nighttime is any better, but I am sure the LE will be out in patrolling at the time (there are about 3 police station within 3 blocks of that area).

So happy hunting, and if anyone has better luck please post.

[Member #4214]

However, I believe that the story is BS. What are the odds of a Taiwanese man in a business suit approaching a white woman in daylight in a public place and opening asking her what she charged? Talk to any foreign woman here and they sometimes have a hard time getting approached in clubs ...

Yeah, you convinced me. Just a newly arrived and somewhat frustrated teacher still coming to terms with the fact she is 'not in Kansas' anymore ...

[Joe In A Shell]

Thanks again ABC Boy! I think am leaning towards the quality route for the upcoming trip. Should I just tell my manager straight up to take me to Emperor? Or is it better to let him know my requirements and let him decide on the joint like the first time I went?

[Exile]

Of course, she doesn't think that all Taiwanese girls are hookers. Many are simply "pouting, foot-stomping, tantrum-throwing femme fatales who throw tantrums on trains and squeal their requests like spoiled brats in a voice that sounds like a baby on helium and are so loud that stray dogs run for the hills."

http://www.martlet.ca/article/19874

[Exile]

Wondering if anyone has recent experience re: picking up students in or near Starbucks Ximending? Otherwise, what to make of this story? Thanks all ...

I went to Ximending to try for freebies several years ago. There are certainly some in the area, as you would expect, though I never saw as much prostitution as you would think. It feels like it is there but other than a few obvious girls walking the streets and a few pimps approaching you, much what ABC described, I never really saw that much.

However, I believe that the story is BS. What are the odds of a Taiwanese man in a business suit approaching a white woman in daylight in a public place and opening asking her what she charged? Talk to any foreign woman here and they sometimes have a hard time getting approached in clubs.

“Haven’t you seen all the hotels that rent rooms by the hour?” she asked me. “They’re all over Ximending.

Yeah. They are all over Taiwan, not just in Ximending.

Many of the Chinese teachers’ assistants wear eyebrow-raising short skirts to work and it’s considered perfectly appropriate. How was I to know that they were prostitutes?

What?

I would say that she made the story up.

[Tobebogus]

First let me say I've rtff and could not find exactly what I'm looking for, so now I'm here.

About 5 years go I lived on the Mainland. Now, I'm coming to live in TW.

On the mainland, there are these MP's with green swirling (not pink, green) bbs poles out front. These places denote where u can go and get an "oil massage".
You would get an oil massage, and there were actually some places where the massage itself was great, but then you'd get HE (HJ only), its standard.

I'd like to know from any old tw hands, are there places like this in tw? If so, are they only in bigger cities? No FS, just standard HE after about 30 mins of a decent oil massage.

thx for ne info

-tobe

[Abc Boy]

Wondering if anyone has recent experience re: picking up students in or near Starbucks Ximending? Otherwise, what to make of this story? Thanks all ...

High heels and short skirts: a look at international prostitution
Mar 11, 2010 01:27 AM
Amy Matthewson

The first thing that struck me when I moved to Taiwan was how warm and friendly the people are ...

http://www.martlet.ca/article/21097-...-short-skirts-

Many years ago, I tried the infamous Ximending "student hunting." These kind of news have been reported forever, young girls have known to pimp themselves in Ximending area. However, I quickly stopped for 2 reasons:

1) There are many low-level gangster pimps there spotting single man and come up and ask "you need a girl?", which makes me feel very unsafe the only time that I've tried it because they first take you to a shabby hotel, ask you to wait in room, and then will knock on door and show you a girl, which I found to be no better than Caesars in age nor appearance (despite the promise of 'young' and 'beautiful'). And they will give you the look to kill if you dare to ask them to switch a girl.

2) The few young girls that actually came up to me that I quickly found to be younger than 18, I told them thanks but no thanks. I'm a monger, not a child molester. One person tried to say she's 18 so she can get some business, but gave it away when I asked her did she finish her HIGH SCHOOL homework and she quickly replied "I hate those classes that give homeworks", ooops, sorry, you're still in high school, go home and study.

But anyway, if extreme young girls are your thing, they are available mostly on Friday evenings and Saturday all day in Ximending. Be there ALONE (they avoid guys in groups of 2 or more), and sit on a bench and they will approach you. Do not hang out at the spot near the MRT exit, as more police and people are there. Instead, go to the "other end" of Ximending alleys and sit there, they will come.

[Member #4214]

Wondering if anyone has recent experience re: picking up students in or near Starbucks Ximending? Otherwise, what to make of this story? Thanks all ...

High heels and short skirts: a look at international prostitution
Mar 11, 2010 01:27 AM
Amy Matthewson

The first thing that struck me when I moved to Taiwan was how warm and friendly the people are ...

http://www.martlet.ca/article/21097-...-short-skirts-

[Abc Boy]

Down for a mongering partner, also no lie I probably cannot do the 20k NT KTV scene, but can do 4000-8000 adventures.

PM me! I'll also contact some of you other guys who are looking for help

Abc_boy let me know!

Sorry buddy, although I still go to Caesars from time to time, but it is such a hit and miss I don't really feel up to it. It is only 4300 so it's in your alley.

You don't really need a partner to go to Caesars. Go right up, pretend you know what you're doing. Look confident. They will greet you: sit down, take off your shoes and socks and hand it to the "shoe guy" - go in the lockers, get naked and put belongings in the locker. Go take a shower. If you want to go straight for the FS head directly into the places where you see a bunch of chairs and tables. Now, for newbie this is important, do not look nervous and DO NOT ASK AROUND FOR SPECIALS. Find a table, sit, a waiter may come, order a drink. Wait and WAIT. Usually in 2 minutes or less an older lady will come with a smart-greeting: "oh handsome boy, want a massage (or she may just say special)" and reply confidently, "yes." Follow her up the stairs and into "secret chamber". She will ask you "do you have girls you know", just say don't remember their numbers. A no answer makes them nervous a bit but will still serve you.

Have fun.

[Abc Boy]

Can I trouble the experienced pros with just another round of questions:

1. Apart from the HJ/BJ low-end joints. Is it possible to get HJ-ed / BJ-ed in the higher-end joints through playing goofy games?

Typically no, those girls work in high-end are specifically not willing to do that, and the establishment won't allow that. However, I have heard some girls shared with me tales of forced customers that likes to feel their private spots and offer money for HJ and even BJ. Usually those people are gangster bosses or VIP customers that the establishment do not like to offend, and will just comfort the ladies who are forced into it.

2. The local sex forums are also not very clear on the boundaries in each category of KTV joints. How far can I go in each type of joint? I believe that ambiguity is deliberate, for the managers to profit from the learning curve of inexperienced mongers.

There are 3 major kinds of KTVs:

1 - Uniform shops KTV. These are the least in boundaries. HJ/BJ are regularly offered within the joint for nominal fee, and FS are available with take out charges, i.e. more expensive. Every hour there's a strip dance that the girls may or may not wear back their clothes. The drawback - girls here are lesser products (looks, etc.) Here you can buy "take outs" at minimum of 4 hours (one less hour with the girl) and more if you like. Note: even here not all girls offer FS.

2 - "Plain clothes" KTV (my own translation). These are higher end with girls carefully picked through standards (thought the standards do vary.) Typically way better in looks, shape, background (college grad, etc.). No strip dances. Girls come in by the 2s (typically) and will automatically leave 15 minutes later if you don't make it know to your manager that you want a girl (I always feel bad for the second girl that I didn't pick.) Drawback - if you want a girl you need to BUY HER FOR THE WHOLE DAY! Easily comes to close to 30K if you want to add the FS fee. Otherwise, keep sitting in there and enjoy 2 new girls every 15 minutes, but they will think you're some idiotic weirdo that has no idea what these establishments are: high-end pimp services for up-scale willing girls.

3 - "Dress shop" KTV (Emperor would fit here). These are places that tries to take the best of 1 and 2. All girls are picked according to pre-selection standards (again varies by management.) Their selling point is high-end girls. However, no strip-dances. All girls dress in seductive but not slutty dresses that you typically see at Uniform shops. They do NOTHING (supposively) in the establishment but talk, sing, play games. However, take-out is available but not all girls do FS and you have the option to buy minimum of 4 hours (again minus 1 hour actual time) or more.

3. I have tried to explore an alternative avenue called 飯局 (meal-date), which is a higher class outcall, but when asked about FS, all those managers on the local sex forums always reply, depend on your 手腕 (player skill). So is FS a given? What's your take on this?

Nope: "eat out" or "meal-date" means clean take out. You do need to have game if you want to have FS with the girl. By game I don't just mean personality as they didn't go out with you because they like you (not at first anyway), but they want to make money. Their willingness to sleep with you is only the start: you need to be willing to pay or buy them expensive gifts.

[Joe In A Shell]

Thanks Roni44 and ABC Boy for the advice, it has tremendously improved my understanding of the KTV scene.

Can I trouble the experienced pros with just another round of questions:

1. Apart from the HJ/BJ low-end joints. Is it possible to get HJ-ed / BJ-ed in the higher-end joints through playing goofy games?

2. The local sex forums are also not very clear on the boundaries in each category of KTV joints. How far can I go in each type of joint? I believe that ambiguity is deliberate, for the managers to profit from the learning curve of inexperienced mongers.

3. I have tried to explore an alternative avenue called 飯局 (meal-date), which is a higher class outcall, but when asked about FS, all those managers on the local sex forums always reply, depend on your 手腕 (player skill). So is FS a given? What's your take on this?

[Turtleh]

Saw this forum 2 years, back. Skimmed through the pages. I'm now currently back in Taipei for a month.

I've been mongering in HK *which is amazing by my standards good bang for your buck.

However I have absolutely no friends here this year in TW and I don't even know which clubs to go to.

I'm a CBC college student, can speak mandarin, can't read nor write, a little bit of canto.

Down for a mongering partner, also no lie I probably cannot do the 20k NT KTV scene, but can do 4000-8000 adventures.

PM me! I'll also contact some of you other guys who are looking for help

Abc_boy let me know!