Taipei

[Roni44]

Going to Taipei for the second time in June. Need advice from the experienced pros here so I get a better experience this time round. I am of native Chinese heritage, and can speak mandarin, read/write.

I was there last May, and managed to contact a KTV manager via a local sex forum. Went to "Shou Xi" (roughly translates to Best/Front Seat), and took the first girl he brought out. I am not a good drinker at all, so didn't really know how to carry the atmosphere inside the room, and that probably led to a lack of chemistry between me and the girl. We basically just chatted and played the dice until the strip dance on the 1st hour.

I didn't really understand how the system of switching girls worked, but still wanted some action, so I ended up doing the takeaway after the 1st hour strip dance, paying for the rest of her time (until 6.30am that is). Cost me around $18K.

So we ended up back in the hotel after a light supper, we did the SOP sex, didn't try to prolong the session in anyway. After I shot out and recovered, I signalled for a second round, but she said they are only ALLOWED by the management to do the deed once. I tried a little smoothtalk, didn't work out, so I didn't insist for fear of getting into trouble. So we snuggled until 5.30 am (invoking the 1-hour transport rule) before she left for the KTV to 'clock out'.

My burning Questions:

1. From the previous posts I gathered on this forum, it seems that you can get multiple shots from the girl if the chemistry is right? The local Taiwan sex forums do not explicitly mention this. A lot of coded language is used in their posts (non native speakers will have trouble deciphering).

2. According the the local forums, the girl does not need to 'clock out' if you buy the rest of her time right? If so, she probably was just making an excuse, and if the chemistry is right, she could stay past 6.30am?

3. How to charm the girl when on a solo trip, and there's no group fun. I didn't have any ideas on how to keep the naughty/entertainment quotient high.

Apologies for the long ramble.

1. Take out ususally allow one session, but then again, you would want to express to the gal that you would like to have few pops before commit to take her out. If the gal likes you, few pops shouldn't be a problem.

2. The girls do not need to clock out, all they need to do is make a quick phone call.

3. All ktv allow you to change the gals during your time in room, but you would want to change as early as possible. When you are one on one with the gal, relax and drink, they are there to please you. Few lines almost always worked for me are:
you are the best thing I've ever laid my eyes on since I've arrived in Taiwan, or you are so much better looking then most of ABC gals back home. (many Taiwanese gals idolize ABC gals due to western influence, they think ABC knows how to dresses, make ups more class or elegance) So by saying they are better looking and etc than ABC gals, that really gets them going. Drinking games are good ice breaker too, think of a silly punishment to get the mood going.

One last thing, ask your manager if the establishment allow in room FS, if you are going solo and met the right gal, many places allow in room FS. Instead of go to a love motel and etc, pay the extra, between 3000~4000 on top of your room charges and fees, then do the deed and go home or stay for the second session with different gals. (thats if you dont mind doing in the ktv room with no bed and etc).

[Joe In A Shell]

Going to Taipei for the second time in June. Need advice from the experienced pros here so I get a better experience this time round. I am of native Chinese heritage, and can speak mandarin, read/write.

I was there last May, and managed to contact a KTV manager via a local sex forum. Went to "Shou Xi" (roughly translates to Best/Front Seat), and took the first girl he brought out. I am not a good drinker at all, so didn't really know how to carry the atmosphere inside the room, and that probably led to a lack of chemistry between me and the girl. We basically just chatted and played the dice until the strip dance on the 1st hour.

I didn't really understand how the system of switching girls worked, but still wanted some action, so I ended up doing the takeaway after the 1st hour strip dance, paying for the rest of her time (until 6.30am that is). Cost me around $18K.

So we ended up back in the hotel after a light supper, we did the SOP sex, didn't try to prolong the session in anyway. After I shot out and recovered, I signalled for a second round, but she said they are only ALLOWED by the management to do the deed once. I tried a little smoothtalk, didn't work out, so I didn't insist for fear of getting into trouble. So we snuggled until 5.30 am (invoking the 1-hour transport rule) before she left for the KTV to 'clock out'.

My burning Questions:

1. From the previous posts I gathered on this forum, it seems that you can get multiple shots from the girl if the chemistry is right? The local Taiwan sex forums do not explicitly mention this. A lot of coded language is used in their posts (non native speakers will have trouble deciphering).

2. According the the local forums, the girl does not need to 'clock out' if you buy the rest of her time right? If so, she probably was just making an excuse, and if the chemistry is right, she could stay past 6.30am?

3. How to charm the girl when on a solo trip, and there's no group fun. I didn't have any ideas on how to keep the naughty/entertainment quotient high.

Apologies for the long ramble.

[Abc Boy]

Ok, I guess Longshan has changed over the years. In my more youthful days I used to scout that area extensively and the youngest woman I found is late 30s early 40s.

Glad to hear younger girls are there.

[Exile]

I went down to the Longshan area

1. The momo tea shops appear to be where the con artists are. I have had girls, after getting inside the rooms, say that they don't have sex and, generally, I believe them as that is their scam. If you ever hang out in the area, you can see stunning girls go down an alley with a guy and then pop out a few minutes later - I have to assume that she delivered him to a shop that had less appealing girls in it.

2. You didn't get off that bad. Call it $1,500 for the learning experience and $500 for the bj.

You should really avoid Longshan area if you are looking for women in their late 20s and early 30s.

The last time I was over there, I saw perhaps 50 girls in this age range. Certainly, you aren't going to find many early 20s and the selection comes and goes but picking from the hundred or so girls who are usually working is better in many ways than taking the girl sent by Ceasar's. Ceasar's is a tasteless chain restaurant - Longshan is fast food. Neither is particularly fantastic but it's hard to compare.

[Abc Boy]

You should really avoid Longshan area if you are looking for women in their late 20s and early 30s.

Read up on this site and go to Caesars, for 4300 you get a massage with "tricks", FS, and a girl right at your age alley (late 20s to early 30s.)

[Smuttynose]

i went down to the longshan area tonight to see what was around. truth be told, i wanted my first taste of the action down there, and i wasn't thinking too clearly. around 12 am i made my way on my motorcycle around heping / kangding, where not much was happening. kangding / guilin corner was also a bit quiet, with no real beauties about. so i did what i've done a lot of lately, rode south down a road near the kangding / guilin corner, and parked my bike. a lot of the time, the girls take the johns down that small road to a few hotels, and sometimes you can spot a real cutie all alone. tonight, however, as soon as i pulled up and parked a guy came out of a building, noticed me, and kept on staring at me. uncomfortable, as i always feel out of place in that area, i rode off, and decided to try my luck in the momo tea shops behind the night market.

i rode on heping past xichang st. which parallels huaxi, and pulled into an alley that goes up toward the nightmarket. noticing what looked like a group of three cute working girls walking up that alley, i parked my bike and tried to make eye contact with the one i liked. she didn't notice or didn't want to notice me, but as i looked to the other direction, i saw a cute looking older lady, maybe 40 yrs old, sitting on a moped looking at me. she quickly made her way over with her ugly, 50 yr old friend. now at this point, sadly, i was already sold. she said 1k to go over to one of her shops, and for the life of me i don't know why i was thinking it was a good deal. the 1k is just like an entry fee to sit in those rooms, drink tea and touch the girls. now i should have known this, as i have read up on it on this site, but at the time i was just nervous, and amazed i was actually going through with it.

we walked into one of the shops, entered one of those rooms, and i refused to pay until afterwards, but they smelled a newb and weren't taking no for an answer. in the end, the boss came to the room, and i just decided to give them the money and go for it. well, they stayed, and we sat chatting and touching for a bit. the cute one had a great bod. perky see cups, a pretty nice face, and nice legs. the other one was considerably older, fatter, and uglier with glasses. i like them a bit older, but not that old. i read on here that you can pay them to leave, but damn i was nervous and didn't want to be rude! anyway, later on i asked for more service. they wanted 1k more for a blow job with both of them, and i payed it after my pathetic attempt at haggling failed. again, i made the mistake of paying first, but they did stay and do the warm tea cbj on me, the old one sucking while i touched the cute one and she kissed my chest. the whole time they seemed really worried about the police, and kept on brightening and dimming the lights, and staying out of view from the small peep whole in the door. it all made me nervous and put me out of the mood a bit. but at least i had my first time with two girls blowing me, that was a first, but cbj's just don't do it for me. i could only shoot once they took the damn condom off and hj'd. all in all, for 2k i was less than thrilled. the cute one i liked had a pushy attitude, and i couldn't relax with her. at least i got to practice my chinese. she said she didn't do sex, but could introduce me to some that could. i didn't bother, and quickly left.

i've really got to learn to say what i want up front, be able to haggle, and also be able to walk away if the deal ain't right. this time, though, i was too anxious to break my cherry and go through with it. next time, i won't be so anxious to get it over with.

[Cool Guy 141]

Anybody want to go mongering tonight, tomorrow, or possibly Wednesday night? I'm new to this site and in Taipei for a few days. Don't know the scene and interested in learning the ropes.

[Abc Boy]

Dude you are only human, even mongers have feelings. We all have stories of that ONE girl that we had a great time with but never even got to first base with. She might even have liked me in return but not enough to forget the fact that she met me in a place that has P4P.

If you see her again on a later return trip, chances are you WILL get some action because I find many of these girls really value restraint and loyalty. They know you can get someone else or find someone else, but the fact that you stick with her tells her something.

The only problem is what happens if something does happen...haha

Then the really important questions start popping up.

Thanks for encouragement. Love is a curse, all my "player skills" went to nil when I'm with her. I can get into the pants of any woman except her... hahaha

Anyway, I'm hoping two months of work in USA will let me get over it so I can go back to my player days of KTV girls... So many girls, so little time....

[Ragnarok42]

Mongers, never make my mistake!!!!! Darn I'm so f-cking weak when I saw my perfect dream girl. And you know what, if I return to Taipei I'll probably be the same IDIOT AGAIN! I need to see a shrink.....

Dude you are only human, even mongers have feelings. We all have stories of that ONE girl that we had a great time with but never even got to first base with. She might even have liked me in return but not enough to forget the fact that she met me in a place that has P4P.

If you see her again on a later return trip, chances are you WILL get some action because I find many of these girls really value restraint and loyalty. They know you can get someone else or find someone else, but the fact that you stick with her tells her something.

The only problem is what happens if something does happen...haha

Then the really important questions start popping up.

[Abc Boy]

Honestly, i have never been to KTV in Taipei before. No offences, because i don't know much about this. In my opinion, I most probably would not take the girls out of KTV because i find it bizzare. What I find it strange is that why gone through so many steps to find a girl ? As you said it, the girl will do it for 7k. That means 11k would be spent on the stupid KTV. Is there anyway to directly contact the girls ? I would rather spend 18k on the pretty girl i like for her to stay up with me for one day, 24 hours and 10k to stay with me overnight from midnight to 7am and maybe, 2 to 3k tips for the manager or mamasan or escort agency for acting as middleman who offer good quality service. Can this be arranged ?

Once again, thank you very much for your advice.

Because the money you pay a share goes to the girls, and helps them meet a quota so they don't get "fines" and get reduce pay. Like I said the girls actually prefer you buy them through the agency so they don't get fine, and usually the top earners get "special treatment" from the managers.

I'm heading back to the States, but if you are still around in late July we can meet up in Taipei and I'll take you to Emperor, in my opinion the best KTV place in Taipei in terms of overall girl quality, and none of the girls are older than 25.

So, in short, if you want girls 18-25, model quality, train to treat you like an emperor, and have FS service, you need to come to KTV and get ready to spend 20K

[Abc Boy]

By the way, everyone is talking about YUKI. Just to make sure I am correct, Yuki refers to the massage advertisment on Taipei Times. Why Yuki? There are a dozen of them in Taipei Times. Which one is the best?

YUKI is not massage parlor but a phone number you call for a "massage girl" but all they do really is FS you and leave. Since the time is short (50 minutes) you can ask for a massage first but remember time is short.

Remember, don't fall for the "we now charge 5K" BS, it's still 3K, just say, "all my friends only pay 3K" and they will laugh and say: "ok ok, 3K, hahaha", yeah hahahha, F-U

[Abc Boy]

Ok guys, just wanted to share a real dumb thing that an experience monger should never do, fall in love with a KTV girl, which is what happened to me the last 3 days (which is why you only heard one KTV girl report for my current trip.)

Anyway, went to KTV looking for fun, but saw this girl walked by in the lobby, and you know how guys will always have a perfect dream girl in their minds? Hair style, facial features, body, height, etc. Well, I never thought I would find such a person but I did, so I quickly told my manager I want her. But he smiled and say: "Sorry, you won't like her, she doesn't do take-outs...." For the first time in my life at the KTV I let my brain do the thinking instead of my little brother, and I told him: "no worries, I want her, no take outs"

Spend 1 hour in the KTV room, sing and talk and holy crap she's perfect in personality and composure too, my dream girl. So took her out TO EAT (clean take out. When KTV manager says "take out" it usually means FS, when girls only do clean take out the proper way to say it is to "TO EAT") And ate her favorite food, took her to a few party places, and called it a night.

Next day, bought her a full day (so she's all my), cost me mucho money. Still, typical fun like a dumb-ass couple, nothing more. Day after that, full f-cking day again. Again just your average couple going out, nothing special.

I'm glad my business trip is over and I had to return to the States, what kind of f-cking tard was I wasting enough money to screw 3-4 KTV girls on her, and all I got was.... NOTHING!

Mongers, never make my mistake!!!!! Darn I'm so f-cking weak when I saw my perfect dream girl. And you know what, if I return to Taipei I'll probably be the same IDIOT AGAIN! I need to see a shrink.....

[James Chang 313]

I go to Roxy and Luxy often and I've not seen any girls who are obviously providers. All girls dress kinda slutty at clubs and no one has ever approach me before.

Yuki is mentioned a lot because she's one of the main advertisers in Taipei Times and can deal with foreigners. Most people who don't speak mandarin have no other choices. If you speak chinese, then you have other options.

If you really prefer independents, I have girl i go to regularly, that I can set you up with. She's pretty and charges 6k. I'll have to ask her first tho. You can PM me if you want me to ask, and I will give you my email address.

Thanks James for the broad analysis and advice. Money keeps the ball rowing. Every person's financial capability is different. The more money you have, the higher the tendency you are going to end up with a beautiful girl if you are talking about FS. Although I have limited experiences, basically less than 10 times FS, I do prefer freelancers or the so-called independents instead of from escort/massage agency etc. Because these girls have a boss to report to, you will hear the mobile phone keeps ringing once the time is up. Very irritating! Independents are better. If they like you, they stay with you longer time, they charge you lesser for FS and so on. If they don't like you, they reject you on the spot, that's it. So, it is a bit dissappointing to know that freelancers or dependents do not exist in Taipei. Are there independents in Luxy or Roxy looking for potential customers?

By the way, everyone is talking about YUKI. Just to make sure I am correct, Yuki refers to the massage advertisment on Taipei Times. Why Yuki? There are a dozen of them in Taipei Times. Which one is the best?

[Hollow Man Abc]

Thanks James for the broad analysis and advice. Money keeps the ball rowing. Every person's financial capability is different. The more money you have, the higher the tendency you are going to end up with a beautiful girl if you are talking about FS. Although I have limited experiences, basically less than 10 times FS, I do prefer freelancers or the so-called independents instead of from escort/massage agency etc. Because these girls have a boss to report to, you will hear the mobile phone keeps ringing once the time is up. Very irritating! Independents are better. If they like you, they stay with you longer time, they charge you lesser for FS and so on. If they don't like you, they reject you on the spot, that's it. So, it is a bit dissappointing to know that freelancers or dependents do not exist in Taipei. Are there independents in Luxy or Roxy looking for potential customers?

By the way, everyone is talking about YUKI. Just to make sure I am correct, Yuki refers to the massage advertisment on Taipei Times. Why Yuki? There are a dozen of them in Taipei Times. Which one is the best?

[Member #4214]

you know they are even calling me now all the time, actual girls asking me when can i meet them or if i want girls. i got my balls up and actually got a girl from one of them recently ...

i suspect some of these girls also cold call random numbers and chat up men, if indeed a man answers. i had my **** daughter's mobile on hand, and when i answered a call some chick started talkin' me up like some ktv girl fishing for a repeater. it could only have been a cold call, because that phone is only turned on for about 1 hr a day, excluding weekends. and after i hung up abruptly she didn't call back.

had me rattled for a moment, because it would not be pleasant to have some ghost from monger's past dialing the domestic numbers. :-0