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  1. #5826
    Jw has anyone used tw nightlife141 before? I've only been able to google 1 review about them and it seems they switched the girl. Anyone else?

  2. #5825

    Private X no show

    Checked out private X, was not offered special. Mamasan claimed specials are not on the house anymore. Anyone else have the same experience recently?

    Got up, paid 600 for the shower, and left.

  3. #5824
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok42  [View Original Post]
    Seems like lots of newbies recently asking about mongering. From my experience, I speak and read fluently, I had no problems. For the few brothers who asked me for recommendations, my provider (s) can understand rudimentary English. There will be much stress and obvious misunderstandings so try and be patient. Many of these girls will not see non-Asians, so sorry in advance. Another choice which I found good is backpage.com. They have lots of ads for providers who will speak English (I have tested them and they are pretty fluent) but prices might be more expensive and you may only get Outcall.

    Good luck brothers and do post reports on how you fared. I hate give a lot of assistance and getting no feedback except from my provider who sometimes complains the brothers I refer to her are being a pain.
    +1 on bros being a pain.

    Emphasis on being patient and also be respectful.

    Many of gtos are just making a living and we are maintaining a hobby.

    Be alert, be careful, but don't be a pain.

  4. #5823

    Line contacts and limitations

    Seems like lots of newbies recently asking about mongering. From my experience, I speak and read fluently, I had no problems. For the few brothers who asked me for recommendations, my provider (s) can understand rudimentary English. There will be much stress and obvious misunderstandings so try and be patient. Many of these girls will not see non-Asians, so sorry in advance. Another choice which I found good is backpage.com. They have lots of ads for providers who will speak English (I have tested them and they are pretty fluent) but prices might be more expensive and you may only get Outcall.

    Good luck brothers and do post reports on how you fared. I hate give a lot of assistance and getting no feedback except from my provider who sometimes complains the brothers I refer to her are being a pain.

  5. #5822
    Quote Originally Posted by ShunZrix  [View Original Post]
    I'm in the same boat as Yodamadashi, looks like for beginner it'll be easy to start with Ceaser and Private X.

    It's very hard to find a place where they let you select your own masseuse with full lineup to select from, because for the Ceaser and Private X, they are like revolving door, comes 1 at a time.
    I believe this is because there's lower risk of losing all your girls to an undercover cop, so yes for beginners I would recommend those as well if you can't speak Mandarin.

    If you can speak Mandarin however, I would recommend workrooms as you can browse jkforum at your leisure and pick out one with good reviews and the body type you like before making appointments.

    With the saunas it's all about luck regarding who you get since the good girls might be busy or not working that day if you aren't well aware of how their schedules work.

  6. #5821
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumagawa  [View Original Post]
    If you can speak Mandarin then a whole new world opens up for you. Because now you can get access to the "private workrooms" which many people have already discovered via jkforum. As far as I know, those never exceed 4500 ntd and there's quite a few hidden gems.

    Unfortunately, I have never had a chance to check out those hidden gems since low funds, but I find that I prefer workrooms to jiufen, sauna, KTV, etc. Not just because of price reasons but also because there's just less hassle and less of an obligation / commitment feeling compared to jiufen and KTV.
    I'm in the same boat as Yodamadashi, looks like for beginner it'll be easy to start with Ceaser and Private X.

    It's very hard to find a place where they let you select your own masseuse with full lineup to select from, because for the Ceaser and Private X, they are like revolving door, comes 1 at a time.

  7. #5820
    Quote Originally Posted by Yodamadashi  [View Original Post]
    I will be in Taiwan around the second half of July and it will be my first trip to Taiwan in over a decade. I am of Taiwanese-descent but American born and I am also illiterate in Mandarin (however, I can speak Mandarin pretty decently though).

    I was wondering about where I can find contacts for Taiwanese girls as I saw in previous posts people have been mentioning LINE and forums. I have not used LINE or even WeChat before but I have just downloaded both apps and were wondering about how to work on getting and using these contacts. I do have a Kakaotalk that I have been using for K-girls in the bay area but that is a Korean social app and I don't think it would be too effective in Taiwan. For communicating and writing Mandarin on these apps, I plan on using Google Translate to help with wording (For the most part I understand how the sentence structure works for writing Mandarin).

    Any information would be great. I will be staying around Taipei for a week and will be looking for anything including FS. My budget for the most part is pretty deep (willing to do it a couple times if it goes well, and up to 3 k USD total for the trip for mongering). I also read that cops have been doing stings and was wondering what I would need to know to avoid them.

    Thanks!
    If you can speak Mandarin then a whole new world opens up for you. Because now you can get access to the "private workrooms" which many people have already discovered via jkforum. As far as I know, those never exceed 4500 ntd and there's quite a few hidden gems.

    Unfortunately, I have never had a chance to check out those hidden gems since low funds, but I find that I prefer workrooms to jiufen, sauna, KTV, etc. Not just because of price reasons but also because there's just less hassle and less of an obligation / commitment feeling compared to jiufen and KTV.

  8. #5819

    Gto recommendation

    Been a while since I posted in this thread (or anywhere in this forum for that matter) but over the past several months, I have been relying on a specific gto to help make arrangements anywhere I am in taiwan.

    Of course, the price varies depending on the city and even within the city the range is pretty high depending on the quality of the girl.

    Of course, quality mostly measured by perceived beauty.

    I would say that in general it has been positive. You know that the girl in the photo is probably a little less attractive in person, but at least its the same person, and you know that the attitude of the girl is also YMMV. But the gto makes the effort to send the girl.

    Gto can be reached by either LINE or wechat so PM me and I can send that over.

    You will need to have a translator installed for better communication.

    For taipei. I have used girls from 4. 5 k to 9 k (don't ask me why, just felt like it) - honestly, I never know why I am paying a premium for except for the face but to each his own.

  9. #5818

    Visiting Taiwan Late July

    I will be in Taiwan around the second half of July and it will be my first trip to Taiwan in over a decade. I am of Taiwanese-descent but American born and I am also illiterate in Mandarin (however, I can speak Mandarin pretty decently though).

    I was wondering about where I can find contacts for Taiwanese girls as I saw in previous posts people have been mentioning LINE and forums. I have not used LINE or even WeChat before but I have just downloaded both apps and were wondering about how to work on getting and using these contacts. I do have a Kakaotalk that I have been using for K-girls in the bay area but that is a Korean social app and I don't think it would be too effective in Taiwan. For communicating and writing Mandarin on these apps, I plan on using Google Translate to help with wording (For the most part I understand how the sentence structure works for writing Mandarin).

    Any information would be great. I will be staying around Taipei for a week and will be looking for anything including FS. My budget for the most part is pretty deep (willing to do it a couple times if it goes well, and up to 3 k USD total for the trip for mongering). I also read that cops have been doing stings and was wondering what I would need to know to avoid them.

    Thanks!

  10. #5817

    Escort

    I would add something about some comments I read in this forum and that you guys got totally wrong: when you refuse a girl, you don't necessarily have to pay the girl to make it like you are a good and respectable man (I remember seeing that it was good to tip her for the taxi).

    Because the truth is that she doesn't take a taxi to get to your place. But some free money is always good right? So she won't say anything and kindly accept your money. The escort agencies actually have drivers who drop girl at your place and pick her back.

    Farewell guys, don't get scammed too easily during your sex quests.

  11. #5816

    An Evening of Ambivalence and An Agent Review

    Good evening gentleman! It is a pleasure once again to converse with you guys.

    So here goes.

    Following a week of thorough research on agent services and receiving an abundance of WeChat contacts (using location function) I decided to try one of these contacts. Upon initiating contact I explained what I was looking for (being prudent), that I was a foreign Taiwanese and that I am fluent in Chinese, and consequently was requested by the agent for my surname and phone number which I obligingly complied. The agent then gave me an address for which I was to meet at a designated time. This did not bode well with me because I was looking for a delivery service instead of an in-call and that upon request whether FS was offered, I was told further information would only be disclosed if I met with the agent at the said location. I replied saying I was uncomfortable and that I am aware of potentials scams. I was then told because I was new and not a client that's why procedures are in place this way. Understanding that risks are relevant both ways I agreed to take a chance and take on the offer, agreeing to meet at the designated location at 9 pm with much hesitance. If one is clever enough to research online they would realize many of the reputed agent with wechat or line contacts have their own website and forum. Through these forum one can gather enough information for the process involved in ordering a lady. Apparent to me that the known procedure was different to the one I am being compelled with, I decided it was a risk probably not worth taking and decided to consider other options. P.S.: Although I did not follow through with this proposal it does not suggest that it was a scam, simply because I always trust my senses I did not want to put myself in a risky situation out of my control. Furthermore it is likely this was one of those massage parlors mentioned here in the forums hence their modus operandi would be different.

    Now left with fewer choices I had to consider other options. Thankfully Ragnarok42 was on hand and I got in touch with him for help with my predicament. He was happy to recommend me a trusted provider to which I manged to get in touch with. Immediately I was familiar with the manner and way in which the agent approached me which was the same to the ones I've read on those forums (I would take this opportunity to share with others this procedure at the end of the review so please refer to that). After choosing a time, meet location and providing specific details on the type of girl I was interested in, the provider delivered the girl to my room (Wego Motel). The girl was nowhere close to the picture shown to me on chat and perhaps I could have saved that extra 2 K I forked on top of my original 6 K in hope of a stunning girl, but at least she had similar resemblances in her face. She was a girl from China, had landed in Taiwan 2 days ago as this was her first time here and that I was her 2nd customer since arriving. Both of us got naked and jumped into the shower before we climbed onto bed. We kissed, received a BJ and I climbed on top and the deed was done. She refused to do DFK, DATY and was not much into the FS so it was mechanical so I respected this. What she lacked in the bed was made up with her bubbly personality. She was perhaps a bit too chatty especially with herself and life experiences which seemed overwhelming at first but least it was sincere and she seemed to be interested in the conversation and reciprocated everything you had to say. Overall I was overwhelmed by her straightforwardness and friendliness which may be uncomfortable for some. She is more of a friend than a romantic partner and I sense that if you can communicate with her then there is potential for platonic love. From our conversation I understood that she was here for only 10 days to gauge the market potential, to get away from her native homeland and to relieve her financial position through her work.

    As promised I'm going to share the procedure with you guys but I would implore you to visit these sites to understand further the courtesy and terms required to communicate with providers, bare in mind mandarin Chinese is a prerequisite for most of these providers but sometimes some dealers are willing to cater for English speaker clients.

    A provider would upon establishing communication with you ask you the following: your name; who or what you are; when and where service is required; price range; length of time; type of girl (important: please be specific); what service is expected (also be specific and you may have to pay for extras). A provider may ask you to pay more for a better girl but usually this is just a way to squeeze more money out of you as they usually have the same girl regardless to price.

    Things you must ask the provider: Confirm price and time with provider; what you want and what type of girl you looking for; pictures of the girls available at your price range (remember the photos are most often not the girl that will be presented and even if so it is heavily photoshopped). You are allowed to request a change of girl when she arrives at your door if you're not satisfied provided that she has not taken her clothes off otherwise you have to pay a penalty fee for change. Remember to not nitpick for problems and be strict on the girl when comparing with pictures as you would've already known that it is not the same girl and it would also put you in bad books with the provider. A good provider would try to accommodate to you as close as they can according to your wishes and the photo they provided.

    Thank you for taking the time to look at my review. Finally if anyone needs advice or good recommendations please don't hesitate to contact me or even better, Ragnarok42, as he is a real pro and has helped me heaps!

  12. #5815
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSasuke5  [View Original Post]
    OK guys I came to Taiwan 1 year ago and....
    Thank you DarkSasuke5 for this comprehensive review, these information will greatly help myself and others alike.

  13. #5814

    Report 1 year

    OK guys I came to Taiwan 1 year ago and started mongering 9 months ago. During that time, I probably learned and experienced more than any of you would in several years. I was let's say, very efficient. I also got friends with a lot of what they call cadres, the people introducing service (for each of the method I describe after Longshan temple). When I met with my cadres, they would guide me and explain me a lot of things. Since I started from this place just like you, I will give a summary review as my farewell gift, as I am leaving Taiwan very soon.

    -Private x, Minquan blue, Caesar:

    The most foreigner friendly way to have sex in Taiwan. Mostly other country girls (Malaysia, China, etc). Few Taiwanese girls. Expect just ok quality even for the most pretty girls working at these places as there places are far from being high-end (note: by my standard. You may still find the girls attractive).

    Miquan blue is very expensive for what is provided. I wouldn't recommend. I think private x and Caesar are better option for your wallet. Even though I heard that private x didn't provide sex service anymore. I don't know if that changed.

    Actually, when I started mongering I really liked these places, but my standard quickly rose when I got taste of really pretty Taiwanese girls.

    -Lonshan temple.

    Many old prostitutes are outsides. If you walk in side alleys, some mamasan may talk to you and say that she has young girls inside. Damage is 2 k +1 k (for another girl) and you can also have a third girl for more. There are Taiwan and other Asian countries girls. These places are kind of dirty, I don't like the Longshan temple option very much. But probably the cheapest place to have sex and with many girls at the same time.

    -Taiwan massage place.

    Accessible only to people who can speak Chinese. HK / jp / Asian foreigners are ok. White and black people can usually get the fuck out.

    This is where I went the most because I think the best quality / price. 2 k for one hour. You get hanjob as a basic service. If girl is ok, you can also personally give her money and have sex with her. One or two parlor (there are about 10+ massage place like this in Taipei area) will require you to go hotel, but most of them allows you to do it inside directly. Prices depends on your interaction with the girl. It is usually 3 k. Some may lie to you and give you higher price. Some girl have higher price to begin with. It depends. I was lucky as with 5 girls, they never asked me 0 and we still did it. My cadre told me this is not usual and it means that the girls probably liked me. I even succeeded to have sex with one stunning babe who normally only provide the basic handjob. She told me many guys always ask her to have sex but I was the only one she accepts. My cadre confirmed there was not known success with her and didn't understand how I pulled it off. In these place, the girls are mostly Taiwanese girl. I would say average age is 22-28 years, even though you have younger and older (they may lie about their age). Some massage parlor are more "prestigious" and have better / quality girl. When you enter, either you choose from a lineup or you already have ordered a girl from your cadre. If you look a long term view, you will rarely find the most pretty Taiwanese girls in these place even though some are not bad at all. If you look at the short term, from time to time, very pretty ones may appear, but they will likely leave very quickly the job. Only "average looking" girl work for a long time in these places. I only went for the pretty ones who do not stay a long time.

    -Afternoon tea.

    Accessible only to people who can speak Chinese. HK / jp / Asian foreigners are ok. White and black people can usually get the fuck out.

    Basically the same as massage parlor except you cannot take a shower before and after the session. You can sing karaoke, or drink tea with the girl instead or just talk. 2 k one hour, handjob included.

    -Jiudian.

    Accessible only to people who can speak Chinese. HK / jp / Asian foreigners are ok. White and black people can usually get the fuck out.

    Basically, jiudian are place where you drink in company of girls and play games. It is more a place you go with a group of friends. Here, you can only choose from lines-ups, no photo like massage or afternoon tea. You have 2 kind of jiudian (dress and uniform). One type is you have hanjob as basic service. The other one is the girl isn't obliged to do anything sexual. In the jiudian where hanjob is basic service, quality of girl are about the same as massage place. In the jiudian where girl aren't obliged to do anything sexual, they are way more pretty. If one of the girl accept, you may take her out and have sex with her. But very expensive as you have to pay the jiudian 4 hours if you want to take out.

    -Piano bar.

    You can find some pretty Taiwanese girls there too. They are not obliged to do anything sexual. You can also find some mafia or TV star in these kind of place. Drinks are very expensive, wouldn't recommend.

    -Escort (not independent escort).

    This is where you can get the most pretty girl of Taiwan. They are very very expensive though (count 20 k-30 k). Quality of girl becomes ok by my standard from 12 k+. I think that in general the ratio quality / price is very bad using the escort option. But it is the only way to get the most beautiful girls of Taiwan. By the way, my cadre friends told me that the most pretty girls do not accept to have white people or black people or Arab people. So usually the company won't send them and send / propose instead at best so-so girls. What I call so-so is from my standard of course but it means foreigners are unlikely to get the most pretty girls available. Also, when using this way, there is a lot of fake picture. In fact, the truth is that they just give you pictures of "she looks like that" and moreover, the girl will be actually less pretty than the picture. Unless you become friend with the cadre, he will give you real picture. The pictures become more and more trustful as you go up in price.

    -Where you go in a apartment and there is a girl (don't remember how to call that).

    Fake picture or heavily modified picture in general. Around 3 or 4 k. Sometimes 2.8 k it's ok to use this but usually you need to speak Chinese as they have to give you information about where to go.

    How to get some contacts:

    - Internet (backpage, asian website, etc).

    -Open wechat in some known area of sex.

    Sometimes you will find cadre, sometimes you find independent escort, sometimes other.

    This is basically all classical ways to have sex in Taiwan for the random Taiwanese guys. I couldn't find girlfriend service. So I think that doesn't exist. I got friendly with many of massage / escort girls and have their contact though. As we hangout before I do them, guess it can be considered close enough to free girlfriend service. But still, I would have liked to try paid girlfriend service. That's all. Maybe I forgot something or some interesting details. Sorry didn't reread my English or my post. Have fun bros.

  14. #5813

    Girlfriend dating service

    Any of you guys know a way to rent girlfriend dating service in Taiwan? (not necessarily sex).

  15. #5812
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok42  [View Original Post]
    Got your PM but decided to reply here so other brothers can see too.

    -maybe video chat with them before you see them.-
    This is great advice, will do that from now on!

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