Taipei

[James Chang 313]

Will I be able to hook up with those 9 girl at 20k from outcall services such as yuki or aiko? Will be in town next weekend and definitely am interested in those model materials.

Cheers,

PD

I haven't tried Yuki/Aiko yet so I'm not sure what quality they have. I'm out of Taipei until beginning of Feb but we can go clubbing then if you are free.

Outcall is about hit and miss. I have gotten ugly girls for more money and hotter girls for less money. Again, I think they try to keep their ugly girls busy so they will pawn off whatever they think you will take. This is why it is important to send a couple back.

Its hard to vouch for any one outcall service; all have sent me an ugly girl at least once. I think a better way is to recommend specific girls at an outcall service. I can recommend one I met last week, 8. 0-8. 5 for 6k if you are interested, you can message me and I will give you the info.

The only other way to progressively get better looking girls is to compare them to the manager. Example: I just had girl A yesterday, please send me another girl today better looking than her. I have found this to work, but they typically ask for more money too.

[E Z Rhino]

Call outcalls, which he says the china girl price is 3k, and more expensive for taiwanese girls. Or incall, which he says is exclusive and you need to be led in by someone in the know. He gave me some outcall numbers and his number and offered to show me the incall places, which are supposedly all taiwanese girls.

I'm pretty sure this means he makes a cut for bringing me in, but the pricing structure he explained means that I have been overpaying for hobbying here so far.

I'll let you guys know when i finally find an incall.

Technically, I consider the "Asian Mens Spa" (I wouldn't use the term "bath house") to be an incall. Not sure what the exact definition is. If you scan through this long thread going back a few months or years you will find a few e.g. Caesars mentioned. I've not seen a fishbowl here. Maybe you can get a bit of a line-up at a KTV. Best line-up I saw was in Macau; they have nicer spas than here or maybe even Hong Kong in my limited experience. Actually come to think of it, I did see some line-ups in SanChong, but it was like, which of these 4 ugly old slatterns do you choose, answer, thanks but no thanks. Really its simply about wanting better quality and choice. Maybe lineups are rare because they create jealousy between the girls, or they expose everyone to the police at once. Or on second thought, maybe its just the way they peddle their merchandise. I mean, imagine if fruit vendors operated the same way... they'd start by showing you the old rotting fruit first... only grudgingly working their way up to the quality product for the discerning buyer... Anyway James I'm not sure what this incall will consist of... maybe its an apartment stocked with mainland girls... maybe its a trip to SanChong shacks... I'd be a bit surprised if there is some new format not mentioned in this thread... maybe its a rub-n-tug massage joint with a lineup and full service. I think your outcall for 4K + 800 sounds like a good situation, except it doesn't give much selection. Though over the course of several months one will have seen dozens of girls and can find some gems to repeat with n'est pas?

[Wanpo]

Hey, this post is actually for Pleasure Dude and anyone who is going to be in Taipei for the next six months. I've been reading up on this forum so far as a guest and the opportunity to introduce myself has arisen. Anyway, if James Chang or Pleasure Dude are willing to meet up for Room 18, Primo, Luxy, etc I'd be willing to come along. My friend actually has a few contacts so cover at Room 18, Deep Passion, and some other clubs can either be waived or discounted. I also know the grandson of the person who designed plush, and if I get in contact with them I'll see what I can do.

So far I've been looking at the posts regarding outcall and Yuki/Aiko for the most part and as a first timer in Taipei I was wondering what would be the best thing do for myself? I'm on a relatively limited budget. I'm willing to spend 5k max and so far I've seen some pretty good deals up to 4k + the rest hotels. James, so far you've been a great help and I was wondering if you would be able to hook it up with your adventures. Hopefully the 9s, 8. 5s, and 8s will be available to all of us, as well as the girls from that one porn shop guy. By any chance, was it the one near Taipei Main Station? Next to Shin Kong Mitsukoshi? I actually think that's the life tower now though. It's on the bottom floor and it's called ap-ch2?

Anyway, I've picked up a copy of the newspaper with the outcalls so if anyone needs updated numbers I have them with me.

Abcboy,

I completely agree, I am willing to pay for quality too. And, at KTV you so get to choose sp I have had a couple 9's there too. Its just too expensive for me to go KTV often, and there is a large sunk cost, even if you don't find one you like. Plus, it feels funny to go by myself, sometimes I don't feel like playing drinking games and getting trashed before I get the girl.

I'm looking for a better way, but I think I might have found one. Will keep you guys posted. We're resourceful enough that we can find it together.

Anyone need a wingwang for regular clubbing? (Roxy, primo, 18, spark)

[Pleasure Dude]

Will I be able to hook up with those 9 girl at 20k from outcall services such as yuki or aiko? Will be in town next weekend and definitely am interested in those model materials.

cheers,
PD

I've been buying the Taipei Times regularly lately. As I expected, the ads are back today. My only explanation for why they disappeared is that they like to put up window dressing for US morality on Sunday and holidays?

I'm in a LTR right now, but IMHO this forum has finally had some breakthroughs, after years of "just fly to another country" and "just go to Caesars and spend 4200 for a 35 year old".

It now seems workable to get a 9 for 20K not 30K, an 8.5 for 6K, and an 8 for 4K, based on some of the recent posts, and assuming we're all on the same rating scale.

[Pleasure Dude]

Hi James,

Great report and I definitely agree with you guys' view on paying a bit extra for the hot looking local girls. For us guys living in the states, it is so difficult to even find a decent looking outcall girl at a decent rate. James, will you be in town next weekend? We can visit some of the clubs in Taipei.

PD

Abcboy,

I completely agree, I am willing to pay for quality too. And, at KTV you so get to choose sp I have had a couple 9's there too. Its just too expensive for me to go KTV often, and there is a large sunk cost, even if you don't find one you like. Plus, it feels funny to go by myself, sometimes I don't feel like playing drinking games and getting trashed before I get the girl.

I'm looking for a better way, but I think I might have found one. Will keep you guys posted. We're resourceful enough that we can find it together.

Anyone need a wingwang for regular clubbing? (Roxy, primo, 18, spark)

[E Z Rhino]

James' first 2 posts IMHO have him my vote for rookie of the year, so can anyone help him out with Yuki's phone number?

I've been buying the Taipei Times regularly lately. As I expected, the ads are back today. My only explanation for why they disappeared is that they like to put up window dressing for US morality on Sunday and holidays?

I'm in a LTR right now, but IMHO this forum has finally had some breakthroughs, after years of "just fly to another country" and "just go to Caesars and spend 4200 for a 35 year old".

It now seems workable to get a 9 for 20K not 30K, an 8.5 for 6K, and an 8 for 4K, based on some of the recent posts, and assuming we're all on the same rating scale.

[James Chang 313]

OK, I will get a membership ASAP.

Incalls do exist!

I walked into a porn store today. (The kind that sells 50 copied old porn dvd's for 1000 NT) Doesn't everyone get their porn online these days? When I was the only person left, the owner (30 year old taiwanese guy) asked me if I wanted to buy some 'illegal' dvd's that are uncensored. Apparently, you can't show penetration in much of Asia. I joked with him that all porn is uncensored where I come from, and I would much rather find sex.

He explained to me that I could go to KTV which is pricey. Call outcalls, which he says the china girl price is 3k, and more expensive for taiwanese girls. Or incall, which he says is exclusive and you need to be led in by someone in the know. He gave me some outcall numbers and his number and offered to show me the incall places, which are supposedly all taiwanese girls.

I'm pretty sure this means he makes a cut for bringing me in, but the pricing structure he explained means that I have been overpaying for hobbying here so far.

I'll let you guys know when i finally find an incall.

[James Chang 313]

I checked at 4 hotels. You guys are right, everyone offers a rest rate. Plus, no ID needed! (what happens if you trash the room?)

I had 4 more outcalls. There is no real correlation between looks and price, after you pass $4000. The reason is because while WE think its cheap at $6k, they don't have enough local customers to keep the girls busy. I tried 3 outcalls. After I offered to pay $6k, one told me that if I paid $8k, she would get me a model worth $10k. She sent me a 29 year old with only 6 looks, and fishy smelling. Another outcall sent me a 20 year old model for $6k. Granted I had to send the girl before her back, but the price didn't go up.

Allegedly, some magazine models do this very part-time for upwards of $10k. I'm going to see if I can get pictures before they send those. Maybe worth the extra money.

[James Chang 313]

Abcboy,

I completely agree, I am willing to pay for quality too. And, at KTV you so get to choose sp I have had a couple 9's there too. Its just too expensive for me to go KTV often, and there is a large sunk cost, even if you don't find one you like. Plus, it feels funny to go by myself, sometimes I don't feel like playing drinking games and getting trashed before I get the girl.

I'm looking for a better way, but I think I might have found one. Will keep you guys posted. We're resourceful enough that we can find it together.

Anyone need a wingwang for regular clubbing? (Roxy, primo, 18, spark)

[Abc Boy]

Hi guys, I'm in Taipei now and renewing my research here. Its been a few months since the last time I was here.

High end KTV. The girls are hot, and you do get to choose, but its not cost effective. Expect to spend $700US if you want to take them home. What's worse, you can cycle through many girls and not find one you like if you are really picky, and you can end up spending $350US for the nite, and NOT take anyone back.

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Simply reject the girls KTV manager sends you until you are satisfy with a girl you like, that's what I always do and never have a problem. Yes, $700 is steep but it's a fair price in my opinion to have special fun with a 9+ face looking girl (keep rejecting, it will come)

[Ragnarok42]

James,

Very much value your insights into the mechanics of the outcall industry. A few pages into this thread though, another poster suggested, they ask for 5000, you tell them the going rate is 3000, then you tell them you'll got 3500 or 4000 if they send some quality. So, maybe 6000 is too much… don't inflate prices for the rest of us. Another optimization would be to cut out the middleman and work directly with the girl. She might have friends too who are in the business or got her into it to begin with.

As far as hotels go, I thought that most if not nearly all hotels offer "rest", 2-3 hours for $800 - $1200 (cheaper in Taipei County). Maybe some do more of their business this way, they call them 'love hotels'. So they are set up for sex, then they just don't ask if its commercial or not.

6K is not too much to ask for a real hottie in TP, I have had one or two and they were smoking. 5K is the going rate for Taiwan girls and 3.5K for China and other places. I have had some girls offer their number to me after one or two sessions and one of them has become my regular "paybee" fuck buddy. Good arrangement, she calls me whenever she is randy, we meet for a set price and we fuck like horny high school kids. She has even offered to introduce some of her friends to me though they have never worked out.

Many of the urban hotels in Taipei, particularly Linsen area have "short rest". The one I use offers 680 for 2 hours, in the morning its 3 hours and after 10 its 1000 for 2 hours. Not a bad deal and very nice and clean.

Happy to see some activity on the forum after a long quiet period.

[Jammin 2]

James' first 2 posts IMHO have him my vote for rookie of the year, so can anyone help him out with Yuki's phone number?

Yuki number from November: 8671-2001; Aiko: 2700-0509
call, enjoy, report
-jammin

[TazDevil]

I did a Google search for "Yuki's Escorts in Taiwan" and came up with the following two Taipei numbers. 2786 3457 and 2649 3837

I am not in Taipei now, so I can't verify if they are active.

Can someone please try them out and report back?

[E Z Rhino]

Taipei Times for January 2 has 3 small display ads under "Service". From Missy, Emily, and Jessica & Wendy. (They probably all call the same Auntie). Usually there are about a dozen ads, but anyway some ads are back. For some reason all 3 list an address; 2 of those addresses are on Hsin Yi Rd sec 4. I'm not sure why the ads went AWOL, maybe they figure there are no travelling businessmen during xmas week.

So, all but big international chain hotels offer 'day rates' or 2-3 hour rest rates. Even if they don't market themselves as a Love Hotel. And as far as I can tell they don't require ID for a rest. And they mind their own business when you have a visitor. Anyway, are there some 'rest hotels' that you recommend, maybe near the MRT, etc?

Also, I noticed that Yuki and other outcalls are no longer advertising on the classified section of Taipei Times and other papers. There are onjly incall numbers now. I found that strange. Does anyone have Yuki's number? I lost it.

OK I realize, those 3 small display ads, maybe they are incall, since they list an address. Let's see what happens next week. Or maybe one of us could call and try to place an ad and see what they say... What's up with this extortion thing, do you think they shut down the ads because of that? I think if you pick the hotel and room that should make it a bit safer.

I think in this forum, we're not allowed to post email addresses, but maybe phone numbers are ok. But maybe people are shy about posting a permanent record of phone number. James it might be necessary for you to get a $20/yr paid account on this forum which can receive Private Messages. I think anyone can SEND a PM, but only paid members can RECEIVE them. James' first 2 posts IMHO have him my vote for rookie of the year, so can anyone help him out with Yuki's phone number?

[Exile]

Very much value your insights into the mechanics of the outcall industry. A few pages into this thread though, another poster suggested, they ask for 5000, you tell them the going rate is 3000, then you tell them you'll got 3500 or 4000 if they send some quality. So, maybe 6000 is too much… don't inflate prices for the rest of us.

Yes, I would be surprised if offering $6,000 would result in anything other than paying 2 for the price of 1.

As far as hotels go, I thought that most if not nearly all hotels offer "rest", 2-3 hours for $800 - $1200 (cheaper in Taipei County). Maybe some do more of their business this way, they call them 'love hotels'. So they are set up for sex, then they just don't ask if its commercial or not.

Other than the large, generally foreign chains, I challenge anybody to find a hotel that doesn't offer 'rest rates'.