Taipei

[WindAngel]

I am sure there are places to have a good time for pennies on the dollar.

If you don't mind travel. There are places in Vietnam that one pop is only a few hundreds NTD.

The value in Taiwan is good if you are ok with SEA providers and the language barrier. Taiwan is geared more like a production line. For popular girls, you know someone is ahead of you, that is why you need to wait for appointment. There is also someone after you, that is why you have to leave when time is up.

I've mongered in many different countries across Asia, and in my humble opinion, Taiwan isn't that bad of a mongering destination. The scene here simply doesn't cater to expats (non Chinese speaking clientele), unlike Thailand or even Japan. But if you speak Chinese, there is plenty available. In this regard, it is similar to Korea: If you speak Korean, Seoul / Busan are abundant playgrounds. If you don't, it's slim pickings.

I have been to most types of establishments in Taiwan. The problem is sex is often not on the table because they already make enough money without.

[AsiaFever]

Massage parlors are back in action as of today. Already got a few girls who messaged me to come visit them.

Would probably avoid them for a bit just to see that the infections are not spiking. The last thing I want is to be tracked back to a sex parlor cluster.

[Amazake]

I've mongered in many different countries across Asia, and in my humble opinion, Taiwan isn't that bad of a mongering destination. The scene here simply doesn't cater to expats (non Chinese speaking clientele), unlike Thailand or even Japan. But if you speak Chinese, there is plenty available. In this regard, it is similar to Korea: If you speak Korean, Seoul / Busan are abundant playgrounds. If you don't, it's slim pickings.

I am sure you know what you are talking about if you traveled much in Asia. I speak a bit of Chinese, enough to negotiate on the street, but impossible on the phone and no writing capabilities. But, I do remember coming to Taiwan in the mid and later 80's, and it was just so irresistable and obvious everywhere with those "slanted" vertical spiralling barber shop poles, letting you know that the service inside was not just a haircut but "slanted," meaning everything / anything goes, and the women were not "tame. " Language was inconsequential, and the universal "nod" was all you needed, and some cash.

But, you are right in that in today's electronic world, communication in a native tongue becomes a very important tool.

Thank you for the clarification. I am taking an online Chinese course, but I suffer from having a mind like a sieve with respect to retaining what I learn. I will continue, though. Again, as always, much appreciated. Be well, all.

[Optional]

Taiwan has not been a major sex destination for many years now. It is just that if you find yourself here, trying to make it work for you at a decent price, it is still very viable. Fortunately, the loose laws make it possible to still survive sexually without breaking the bank, whie still feeling safe. In the red light zones, decent girls are blue-collar workers. Prices are fixed. They try to look good and work quantity. I guess if you hang around the streets for a while, you can put two and two together and have a good time without allowing them to talk you out of your money.

Let's see what post COVID brings us.

Asia encompasses a lot of countries. I am sure there are places to have a good time for pennies on the dollar. In your opinion, what is a better destination as far as good value and good quality?

I've mongered in many different countries across Asia, and in my humble opinion, Taiwan isn't that bad of a mongering destination. The scene here simply doesn't cater to expats (non Chinese speaking clientele), unlike Thailand or even Japan. But if you speak Chinese, there is plenty available. In this regard, it is similar to Korea: If you speak Korean, Seoul / Busan are abundant playgrounds. If you don't, it's slim pickings.

[Amazake]

The main issue is the quantity and quality available. It gets old pretty quick in Taiwan when I have sex at least once a day. In Thailand or Latin America, one can easily do twice a day with very little effort.

Taiwan has not been a major sex destination for many years now. It is just that if you find yourself here, trying to make it work for you at a decent price, it is still very viable. Fortunately, the loose laws make it possible to still survive sexually without breaking the bank, whie still feeling safe. In the red light zones, decent girls are blue-collar workers. Prices are fixed. They try to look good and work quantity. I guess if you hang around the streets for a while, you can put two and two together and have a good time without allowing them to talk you out of your money.

But, the all night drinking and flopping down for the night at a bargain price, I don't see available, especially for my age. But, honestly, after I have my fair share, I am not looking to extend the night too much further. Rather go home, recoup, sober up, take my exercise, a mountain thermal bath, forget the chaos, and decide when to have another excursion.

Let's see what post COVID brings us.

Asia encompasses a lot of countries. I am sure there are places to have a good time for pennies on the dollar. In your opinion, what is a better destination as far as good value and good quality?

[WindAngel]

If the street scene does not suit anyone for about 1500 NT

The main issue is the quantity and quality available. It gets old pretty quick in Taiwan when I have sex at least once a day. In Thailand or Latin America, one can easily do twice a day with very little effort.

[Amazake]

Taiwan is not a good mongering destination but at least we can still get laid cheaply because of the government's SE visa free policy. Thailand is my favorite place but it is getting more expensive. ST is actually more expensive than Taiwan for a few years now. I like the ease of getting girl at any time except morning. Food is great. I usually fly to Thailand whenever I have time when I am in Taiwan. My wealthy friends have no problem mongering in Taiwan but I am not used to spending that kind of money day in day our so that is not for me.

The girls from dating site often want crazy money like 15000 and up. It's funny that they pretend to be non pro but will only meet in a motel.

"The girls from dating site often want crazy money like 15000 and up. ".

Just my opinion and I don't want to appear crude, but "no woman is worth that kind of dough," especially for a brief encounter. Maybe for an all nighter if you are a light sleeper. But, I need my rest to recoup. Sadly, I have never been to Thailand. Sounds like it is still a fun place, but totally different culture from Taiwan. (Taiwan was still wild in the '80's).

If the street scene does not suit anyone for about 1500 NT, (hopefully prices remain stable following the COVID reopenings) and you need more time to relax into it, a 90 minute massage for about 1200 NT, and take the last 30 minutes for playtime, and many girls will be quite satisfied with a 2000 NT tip for everything. Total price of 3200 NT is an okay price because we are not living back in the day when these services in Asia were paid in slave wages.

[WindAngel]

On the whole, not too happy with the Taiwan scene. When I came here abiutn2 years ago, I had hoped Taiwan would be a sex paradise

Taiwan is not a good mongering destination but at least we can still get laid cheaply because of the government's SE visa free policy. Thailand is my favorite place but it is getting more expensive. ST is actually more expensive than Taiwan for a few years now. I like the ease of getting girl at any time except morning. Food is great. I usually fly to Thailand whenever I have time when I am in Taiwan. My wealthy friends have no problem mongering in Taiwan but I am not used to spending that kind of money day in day our so that is not for me.

The girls from dating site often want crazy money like 15000 and up. It's funny that they pretend to be non pro but will only meet in a motel.

[Tabasco72]

On the whole, not too happy with the Taiwan scene. When I came here abiutn2 years ago, I had hoped Taiwan would be a sex paradise LOL. It may be for some folks but not for me. What I miss most is a proper Nuru massage from a trained pony. But just don't have that here.

I have to agree with you. The same can be said about non-P4 P girls. Rather hard to find someone willing ti have a pure fun. Tinder is full of girls looking for a true love or LTR, the DateinAsia or Badoo also are more romantic dating sites than places you can find fun. COVID closed the borders and we need to live on a desert.

T. 72.

[Analyzer123]

There are different methods and different locations. I only go to places that I can make phone call to make appointment. Once you get it, it is pretty easy. The hardest part for me is to get up early enough to book the girls at a time slot I like. After the agent recognizes you, you can pretty much just ask which girl is available and book it, no hassle. Scroll to next page to see my post that I posted what a local provider review is like. Those reviews contains all the clues you need to find good providers. If you get it, it would become easy.

It's always a 2 calls system even when I already know which room the girl is in. It is necessary because the girl can be with other guest so you can just show up at the front door without conformation. I personally have rarely walk away disappointed based on review.

These are Chinese slangs used in many reviews that may help you some.

Five wood: Linshen, because Linshen in Chinese is made up by five "wood" characters.

Moon: Vieatnam.

TV: Mouth, TV opens big means kiss a lot.

Pony: spinner.

Note: it may not show up as pony but "little horse". Some other ones I know:

Poison dragon: rimming.

Handicapped bath: assisted bath.

On the whole, not too happy with the Taiwan scene. When I came here abiutn2 years ago, I had hoped Taiwan would be a sex paradise LOL. It may be for some folks but not for me. What I miss most is a proper Nuru massage from a trained pony. But just don't have that here.

[WindAngel]

Good to know! Quick question though, how are you guys using JKF? I've used it before to mixed results.

I jump to JKF and go to "20116;33457;20843;38272;" and then select "25353;25705;25351;27833;22739;29702;23481;.

From there, I go through posts and call for appointments and the like. If I don't like what I see. I walk away. Sometimes, I will end up getting directed to a parlor or the like, there, I check it out and decide if it's for me or not. The whole process is a lot of effort when compared to having regulars and going a Spa like Tianlong.

Given how COVID restrictions aren't going to fully lift any time soon and when they do, the contract tracing will most likely be continuing. I'm looking for a better solution to anonymous mongering. I want to get my willy licked without it being too easily known to the wider public.

There are different methods and different locations. I only go to places that I can make phone call to make appointment. Once you get it, it is pretty easy. The hardest part for me is to get up early enough to book the girls at a time slot I like. After the agent recognizes you, you can pretty much just ask which girl is available and book it, no hassle. Scroll to next page to see my post that I posted what a local provider review is like. Those reviews contains all the clues you need to find good providers. If you get it, it would become easy.

It's always a 2 calls system even when I already know which room the girl is in. It is necessary because the girl can be with other guest so you can just show up at the front door without conformation. I personally have rarely walk away disappointed based on review.

These are Chinese slangs used in many reviews that may help you some.

Five wood: Linshen, because Linshen in Chinese is made up by five "wood" characters.

Moon: Vieatnam.

TV: Mouth, TV opens big means kiss a lot.

Pony: spinner.

[Nemo798]

From my experience: many JKF girls work in buildings without security guards so no problem at all.

Interesting thing that I discovered few days ago. Hualian keeps the price 3000-3500/ h whereas Yilan has discounted price 2000-2500/ h.

Good to know! Quick question though, how are you guys using JKF? I've used it before to mixed results.

I jump to JKF and go to "20116;33457;20843;38272;" and then select "25353;25705;25351;27833;22739;29702;23481;.

From there, I go through posts and call for appointments and the like. If I don't like what I see. I walk away. Sometimes, I will end up getting directed to a parlor or the like, there, I check it out and decide if it's for me or not. The whole process is a lot of effort when compared to having regulars and going a Spa like Tianlong.

Given how COVID restrictions aren't going to fully lift any time soon and when they do, the contract tracing will most likely be continuing. I'm looking for a better solution to anonymous mongering. I want to get my willy licked without it being too easily known to the wider public.

[Tabasco72]

How are the JKF girls working as normal? Aren't the hotel receptionists and apartment security guards being extra careful and logging in every visitor?

From my experience: many JKF girls work in buildings without security guards so no problem at all.

Interesting thing that I discovered few days ago. Hualian keeps the price 3000-3500/ h whereas Yilan has discounted price 2000-2500/ h.

[Amazake]

It looks like things might be relaxed on the 12th of July, but yeah, not sure if going to a massage parlour would be great on the first day back. If there is another outbreak like what happened in Wanhau the last thing you want is your info plastered all over PTT and the news sites.

That said, I wonder how all the massage girls are surviving. Just no pay, or do you think they are offering their services on the side?

Yeah, its not like you get up early morning on July 12th and it is "ready, set, go, off to the races," although I have been waiting for this day like a 5 year old waiting for Christmas morning and not being able to sleep all night.

Maybe give it until July 19th, a week later and then peek my head up, mosey around the various "red lights" and see what the aftermath has left. Like, anything else, when this type of catastrophe occurs, it could lead to a new order in the way business is done. I am sure that some will have left the business and will not return. That would be the ones in the older tea houses. The young foreign girls working for management, should be eager to start paying their bills. Law Enforcement will probably institute a higher standard. I envision masks being worn during playtime, and even during the short alley courtship and prowl. With the older ladies, that might work to their advantage. (LOL).

But, after the July 12th release, I will probably get me feet wet in a less high profile area, more like a semi-legitimate massage place in a local neighborhood.

Once the island secures another ten million vaccines, the gloom will lift. The vaccines are trickling in a bit slow, although, who knows? Can you really trust the news in any country? ANSWER: and-O.

[Analyzer123]

How are the JKF girls working as normal? Aren't the hotel receptionists and apartment security guards being extra careful and logging in every visitor?

Skip a $100. But in any case you're not prohibited from having guests.