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  1. #5677

    Guidelines

    I have just been flooded with requests for my Line contacts for OFOP; again, let me state again my guidelines.

    1. My contacts are very important to me and I protect them as well as I can since they do the same for me. Therefore, I am VERY wary of sharing info with anyone who is what we senior members call "one post wonders", some of these are LE posing as members to get info to bust providers. I generally will not give out info to members who have just joined or have no posts (and no, posts on other forums asking for contacts do not count, I will sometimes check). I don't mind sharing but I appreciate if other brothers also share their experiences, I know I am not the only monger here in Taipei.

    2. my contact only speaks Chinese and most of the girls are from China or Taiwan and will not accept non Chinese clients. I am sorry but those are their rules not mine.

    So please, before you come asking me for contacts please take note of point 2. I don't want to seems like an asshole, but I am tired of typing or asking "are you Chinese / do you speak Chinese" to the various requests for info.

    Thanks everyone.

  2. #5676
    Quote Originally Posted by ThomKatt  [View Original Post]
    It would bother me if I was expecting a taiwanese girl and they sent a mainlander. I'm paying a premium to get a local girl. My mandarin isn't good enough to pick up accents, nuances, or slang, but good enough to hold a conversation and be able to tell based on mannerisms who's a mainlander and who is not. I had good service and she seemed like a genuinely honest and decent person. I'm more mad at the line provider for duping me, but really mad at myself for being duped! Hahah oh well, chalk it up to a learning experience.

    What is OFOP? I should probably try that if your experiences have been good.
    I have been duped more than once but I think its because I see a pic of a girl I would really want to do and HOPE she is not lying this time. Happens when you think with your lower brain and not your higher brain, I just hope my warnings will help other brothers from doing something that will either waste their time or money or both. Taiwan girls are not always what they are cracked up to be and won't be guaranteed to have a good experience, but the likelihood is higher (I have a Taiwanese regular girl who I love seeing and she gives me true GFE), and luckily my provider is honest about where the girls are from and will recommend girls who have good reputations.

    As for OFOP, there are lots of posts in the forum about this and I think the term comes from Hong Kong, short for "One Floor One Phoenix" meaning the girls are already in rooms in an apartment complex, so you can go in and try many in different rooms on different floors. In Taiwan the girls have motel / hotel rooms and you go and play. This saves you the cost of opening a room (unless you are visiting and have a hotel room already, but I live here with family so have to get a room) and gives me the choice of saying "Nyet" without having to wait forever to change, since many girls are usually in the general area if not the same building. Prices range from 3. 8 K to 4. 5 K for either Taiwanese or Mainlanders, not always stunners but I have had some really great experiences with these, and they cost SO much less than taking a Jiu Dian girl home (which can run upwards of 15 K per shot).

    Next time you are in town give me a holler and I will pass you the Line info.

  3. #5675
    Quote Originally Posted by AirlineCrew  [View Original Post]
    Hello fellow mongerers.

    To my big surprise my indonesian fuck friend contacted me again after months of no texting at all. Seems she has quite her job and wants to get back to Indonesia. Well of course she needs money to do that and pay for living in Taiwan right now.

    So same deal like before, she will have sex for 100 usa dollars (that's usa not taiwan dollars) per hour. Anal is possible now too for 50 usa dollars extra, as long as you are not too big (and she will be the judge of that).

    She is pretty kinky and a real trooper in the sack, she likes it rough if she thinks you are the right guy. This does not mean she likes abuse, there is a difference!!

    SAFE SEX ONLY!! (remember this because I still want to fuck her too hahaha).

    She can come to your hotel or apartment so outcall only..
    Can I get the info on this girl if she is still working?

  4. #5674
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok42  [View Original Post]
    Great post my friend, its hard to monger cheaply and well here, even if you do speak the language the providers always have a scam to push so-so girls on you. What you say is true, all the pics are fake, but I have found the less professional they look the the accurate they are. But it is never the same, so I treat them as eye candy and now I rely on my provider to recommend a good girl. This is where it gets tricky, you need to be on good terms with a provider to have them tell you the truth, many outright lie and say a girl is Taiwanese when it's so obvious they are Mainlanders (and don't believe the "I am from southern Taiwan" crap, I have a good ear for accents and 99% of the time they are not who they say they are). Usually I don't care as long as I get good service, but many providers charge a premium for Taiwanese girls, so just be careful.

    I have been doing the OFOP thing recently to get past the issue you had where the girl that shows up is not anywhere near what you thought. I need to get a short stay hotel to order out and if they change a girl it takes time and sometimes I will waste my money just paying for the room with no good pussy to show for it. Had enough of these bait-and-switch tatics. I have it now to where I pay about 3. 8-4 K for Incall service with sometimes extra for BB or BBBJCIM with girls usually who have good attitude and service.

    Cheers.
    Thanks rag. Also, I appreciate you for connecting me with your provider by the way. Unfortunately I didn't go with her because all of her girls were actual mainlanders, which I have no problem with, but I wanted to experience the local flavor. You're definitely right about everything, no one is more wiser and knowledgeable in this city than you, so I put a lot of weight in your posts. Normally I pretend that I don't care or mind, or even pretend I have an interest in something that I don't to see if they will tell the truth just to gain business. I asked if they have any mainlanders available, and they said no, which satisfies one of my conditions. Another was when I asked the girl where she was from, she quickly said Pingtung city (ping dong shi). Someone from the mainland definitely wouldn't know this place or can make it up so quickly. She also told me her mom is from mainland, which means she's honest. And lastly, I don't think the providers I talked to even know the girls at all. And I don't think they tell them to lie to clients about being Taiwanese.

    It would bother me if I was expecting a Taiwanese girl and they sent a mainlander. I'm paying a premium to get a local girl. My mandarin isn't good enough to pick up accents, nuances, or slang, but good enough to hold a conversation and be able to tell based on mannerisms who's a mainlander and who is not. I had good service and she seemed like a genuinely honest and decent person. I'm more mad at the line provider for duping me, but really mad at myself for being duped! Hahah oh well, chalk it up to a learning experience.


    What is OFOP? I should probably try that if your experiences have been good.

  5. #5673
    Quote Originally Posted by ThomKatt  [View Original Post]

    1. No matter what pictures they provide, they are ALL fake. Every picture is touched up, photoshopped, and / or stolen. I've lived and travelled in Asia for awhile, and even watch Japanese porn. I'm so used to the fake pictures, it's like second nature to me at this point.

    2. The tea service providers will swear to you up and down that the pictures are real. DON'T BELIEVE THEM. THEY ARE LIARS. They hope they will send someone who is similar (at MOST 50% similar) to what they provided and hope that when they get to your door, you let your dick do the thinking. It's a win-win for them because if you say no, they will keep sending you someone until you get angry and frustrated and eventually say yes.
    Great post my friend, its hard to monger cheaply and well here, even if you do speak the language the providers always have a scam to push so-so girls on you. What you say is true, all the pics are fake, but I have found the less professional they look the the accurate they are. But it is never the same, so I treat them as eye candy and now I rely on my provider to recommend a good girl. This is where it gets tricky, you need to be on good terms with a provider to have them tell you the truth, many outright lie and say a girl is Taiwanese when it's so obvious they are Mainlanders (and don't believe the "I am from southern Taiwan" crap, I have a good ear for accents and 99% of the time they are not who they say they are). Usually I don't care as long as I get good service, but many providers charge a premium for Taiwanese girls, so just be careful.

    I have been doing the OFOP thing recently to get past the issue you had where the girl that shows up is not anywhere near what you thought. I need to get a short stay hotel to order out and if they change a girl it takes time and sometimes I will waste my money just paying for the room with no good pussy to show for it. Had enough of these bait-and-switch tatics. I have it now to where I pay about 3. 8-4 K for Incall service with sometimes extra for BB or BBBJCIM with girls usually who have good attitude and service.

    Cheers.

  6. #5672
    Hey fellas,

    This is a late and long post. But I recently visited Taipei for the first time and wanted to share my experiences. I spent the previous 4 days just touring the city. There's not much to do, and everything is so cheap that I found it hard to spend money, EXCEPT for when I mongered, then the prices were outrageous (more on this part later).

    I did a lot of research prior to arriving, and it seems that the places that I need to monger in are the saunas (Cesar's, private x) and do the tea service. Unfortunately, it rained on one of my days here so it set me back a day of touring. It was a Saturday night, and I had scoured the forums, and other websites for some tea service. I was talking to and negotiating with many of the tea service providers for awhile as well as researching what people have said in this forum. Here's what I discovered:

    1. No matter what pictures they provide, they are ALL fake. Every picture is touched up, photoshopped, and / or stolen. I've lived and travelled in Asia for awhile, and even watch Japanese porn. I'm so used to the fake pictures, it's like second nature to me at this point.

    2. The tea service providers will swear to you up and down that the pictures are real. DON'T BELIEVE THEM. THEY ARE LIARS. They hope they will send someone who is similar (at MOST 50% similar) to what they provided and hope that when they get to your door, you let your dick do the thinking. It's a win-win for them because if you say no, they will keep sending you someone until you get angry and frustrated and eventually say yes.

    My strategy was to pick a girl from a photo that looked the most real and attractive. I then informed the person that if they send me someone who isn't in the photo, I will turn them away and go with another Line provider. I will also leave negative feedback and write a bad report. Knowing all of this, the tea provider agreed to it all. The price was 5000 twd, which was one of their cheapest options. This price is ridiculous, I could just go to mainland and get a lineup for close to half price. I asked for a girl that does DFK, BBBJ, and CIM. She informs me 20 minutes later that the girl won't do CIM. So I still agree anyways hoping for the best.

    The girl shows up to my hotel, and it's not the girl in the photo. Fellas, when you see the girl, take your time and decide if you want to keep her. Make her do a spin. She will be dressed up super sexy and your dick will take over and say yes immediately. The girl's name is Yezi. Her father is from Taiwan and her mother Mainland. But she was born and raised in Taiwan. How do I know if she's truly from Taiwan? Well, it's difficult to tell. When she said she didn't use Line, but wechat, that was a red flag. But when I asked her to write her name in my phone, I provided her with the traditional character keyboard and she instantly recognized her name, and didn't default to the simplified characters. Also, when I asked where she was born and raised, she was honest and told me some obscure real place in southern Taiwan, and not defaulted/lied and said Taipei.

    She was pretty enough but had some acne scars. She's too thin. She had no ass or curves to speak of, I think her butt actually went inside her body it was so flat. Her boobs were the selling point, as the cleavage was what made me say yes (of course they shrunk when the bra came off, but they were still a large B). She did have a fun and good personality.

    We go in the shower, she takes real good care of me. We get out, get on the bed and she bbbjs me for awhile. She does it with me laying down and her off to the side. I wanted to finger bang her, but I don't think she was into, and probably got into that position to prevent that. She went to the bathroom and got hot water and did a hot and wet BBBJ. She puts the cover on and gets on top, but laid down on top of me. I DFK her and pound at the same time. She smelled like cigarettes so I asked if she smoked, she said no. But I think she's around smokers a lot, because her hair smelled like it. I don't mind smokers, I used to be one and the smell calms me. I flip her over and get into doggy. She doesn't spread her legs open for me. She just lays them down, making it tight as possible, but she felt very loose to be honest. I keep banging, DFK, and eventually blow my load inside of her. We wash up, chit chat, and she leaves.

    I told the tea service what a bad business plan it was to lose potential future customers for 2500 NTD. I found most of these Line providers on the 141 website for Taiwan, instead of the usual Hong Kong listings.

    I ran out of time and was too tired to try out the saunas, although I'm sure they don't compare to Macau, the value must be there. Probably next time though.

  7. #5671
    Quote Originally Posted by AttorneyPunani  [View Original Post]
    I think he's asking for hints as to the Unsatisfactory Provider, so he / we can avoid. I for one though, am a bit curious, because of the dick cleaning last part of your post LOL.
    Think Japanese or American porno, where the guy let's the girl lick their dick clean rather than use a tissue. I could see the girl was really into the sex even after we were done so put it by her face and she very naturally wrapped her lips around it and cleaned all the cream still slowly leaking out. At least that made up a lot for my disappointment.

  8. #5670
    I think he's asking for hints as to the Unsatisfactory Provider, so he / we can avoid. I for one though, am a bit curious, because of the dick cleaning last part of your post LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok42  [View Original Post]
    Don't understand the first part of your question, you mean how to NOT be ripped off by provider?

    The second part is a "no", don't go to massage places a lot. I want sex, straight and simple, so just go to OFOP to screw.

  9. #5669
    Quote Originally Posted by Bbbjcifcim  [View Original Post]
    Ragnorak,

    Can you give any hints of the provider?

    An other question: Have you ever experienced "Venice Spa" or "Treasure Island"? Thanks a lot!
    Don't understand the first part of your question, you mean how to NOT be ripped off by provider?

    The second part is a "no", don't go to massage places a lot. I want sex, straight and simple, so just go to OFOP to screw.

  10. #5668

    Taipei nightlife experience

    From UK. First time working in Taipei.

    Stay in Taipei in 4 Days. Want some exciting and relax. My coworker introduce some special information about outcall service. Just saw the picture and booking!

    I have originally booked JOJO. When I got to the hotel and waiting about 15-20 minutes. Then she is coming.

    That was quickly!

    JOJO is a small girl, probably weighing no more than 40 kg. She said she's 23, having recently graduated from university. Nice polite girl. She said she hasn't been a WG before and I believe her. Anyway, we went for a shower with the usual washing and cleaning. We started DFK in the shower, with me rubbing her pussy at the same time. This got her pretty excited and when we went out to the room she took no time to get things started. She was so light that I could bone her while standing up and holding her weight (against the wall). I think she likes sex generally and is not shy about it. She's a nice girl and I would recommend trying her if you are not too demanding in terms of looks and body, the service is very good. She is here until next Monday.

    If you travel in Taiwan please ask me! [Email address deleted by Admin]

    EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!

  11. #5667

    Ref: I should know better

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok42  [View Original Post]
    Got a pic from a semi-regular provider saying had this really young thing whose last day is today because school starts tomorrow. Pic was of a thin, young girl and my dick said yes.

    Well the girl who showed up was twice the size of the girl in the pic. If they were twins that would be good, but in one body? Damn.

    It was late and I was super horny so decided to at least let her fuck me. Turned out she was super tight and wet and really sensitive. Came loud and hard at least 5 times and gave my cock the tongue washing of its life. Would be a great fuck if she didn't weigh more than me. At least she made up for it a bit by cleaning my cock with her tongue and mouth, real GFE like move.

    But in the end won't repeat with her and this provider is going into my shit pen for lying to me. Another one down the tubes I guess.
    Ragnorak,

    Can you give any hints of the provider? Would appreciate very much not to get fooled by him / her.

    An other question: Have you ever experienced "Venice Spa" or "Treasure Island"? Thanks a lot!

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  12. #5666

    A word of thanks

    I have not been to Taipei in nearly 2 years now, but the thread is still very informative and alive. Thanks to everyone who contributes. Here is the reason for this expression of gratitude.

    A friend of mine who had never been to Taipei before is visiting for a business deal. He laded up on Sunday afternoon after a long flight and after checking in called me to ask about action in Taipei. From what I remember it was always about Caesar or PrivateX for massages, Longshan Road for SW, bargirls in Linsen, or the several discos or nightclubs for local non-pro talent. But since that was all from the past I decided to look at the thread once again before I gave any advice. After reading barely 3 pages I knew what I should be passing on as market intel.

    Long story short, this friend went to PrivateX, got through the routines and picked No 31 whose name was Kiki. Apparently got a great massage, BBBJ and sex all for NTD 4200. Later he hung out at a bar on Linsen and got chatty with another girl. Don; t know how that ended, but I will report back when I get to know.

    He thanked me profusely for the information. I believe the right recipients of that gratitude are the members on this thread who contribute. Keep up the good work guys.

  13. #5665

    I should know better

    Got a pic from a semi-regular provider saying had this really young thing whose last day is today because school starts tomorrow. Pic was of a thin, young girl and my dick said yes.

    Well the girl who showed up was twice the size of the girl in the pic. If they were twins that would be good, but in one body? Damn.

    It was late and I was super horny so decided to at least let her fuck me. Turned out she was super tight and wet and really sensitive. Came loud and hard at least 5 times and gave my cock the tongue washing of its life. Would be a great fuck if she didn't weigh more than me. At least she made up for it a bit by cleaning my cock with her tongue and mouth, real GFE like move.

    But in the end won't repeat with her and this provider is going into my shit pen for lying to me. Another one down the tubes I guess.

  14. #5664

    Higher end massage place

    Read all the posts starting from 2014 but I'm still a bit confused. Are Caesars and Private X the only upscale options for us Gwailos?

    I don't speak a word of Mandarin so I'm limited as to where I can go. Any recommendations for a high end massage place where a non Mandarin speaker can partake?

  15. #5663

    From Private X to Longshan Temple to the Shacks in Keelung

    Hit Private X this afternoon and had never been there before. I did one and a half girls there! I don't speak a word of Manadarin and told the Mamasan I wanted a young and thin girl. A young girl showed up in the room but wasn't exactly thin but seemed pleasant enough so I decided not to send her back. The massage for the first fifteen minutes was okay and then things went south. She put a condom on to do the blow job and when I asked for no condom for the BJ she wouldn't so I let her proceed not knowing how things worked there. After a very weak blow job she stuck my dick inside of her, said I was big, and started wincing and almost crying while I was trying to penetrate her and doing so gently. She put some lube on and still grimaced in pain while I slowly tried to penetrate her. At this point I just gave up with her and told her to call the Mamasan. When the Mamasan arrived I explained to her in sign language what had happened and after they talked for about five minutes the Mamasan apologized for what occured and sent the girl away. The Mamasan said she would send another girl and I told her to send in somebody with experience. Five minutes later an older but not thin woman shows up and it was like night and day. Slippery oily massage, she had big tits rubbing them all over me, deep throat blow job uncovered without asking, and into it. She even put the massage table and bed together so there would be more room to play on. So everything in the end turned out okay and I paid my 4,200 TD and was on my way.

    I then went to dinner near the Longshan Temple and started walking around the area based on the reports of the last few days. I identified streets / alleys near the night market and there were lots of girls, older ones, and some cute ones hanging around who approached me and my friend. The pricing we got was 2,000 TD from several girls and after about an hour and a half we decided to leave and head back to Keelung where we are staying. I like what I saw in the Longshan Temple area as I like the street scene.

    Upon arriving in Keelung we decided to check out the "shacks" adjacent to the Railroad tracks. We had been there the day before and found the place to be dead but didn't know that the entrance to the places was not on the street side but on the track side. We encountered a guy who spoke some English who explained how it worked there. The pricing ranged from 1,000 to 1,500 TD depending on how fat / pretty the girl was for twenty minutes. Lots of chubby girls there, none nearly as pretty as in Taipei but a few that were thin and not ugly. I chose one who spoke some English, promised extra time, and wanted 1,300 TD. Her shack was not like the digs at Private X but OK for a budget fuck and worked out okay. At least there was a bed and she gave a pretty good blow job which was uncovered. She was into it so I gave her a tip which she appreciated.

    I will be going back to the Longshan Temple area again tomorrow. I think this place might be a "goldmine" and wish I spoke the language.

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