Taipei

[Nigt Rider]

Well damn, I did some digging to help you find her (she's left Taiwan but I'm sure she'll be back) and am now realizing that Zinzin is likely post-op. That would be my first time, so two first times for me in the last two weeks LOL. I've accepted this fact, but I'm a bit bummed and embarrassed about calling her by far the best service I've ever received. It was true though and I guess it makes sense. In hindsight there are some other clues that I could have picked up on. But I'm surprised cause I didn't notice a difference in the actual activity. I have a friend who's experienced a TS before and described the obvious differences, but I simply didn't notice.

I am sure I have had experiences with post-op before without realizing it. How do you find out Zinzin is a post-op? Any tricks that one uses to find out if an escort is a post-op?

What did your friend say that give post-op away?

[Nigt Rider]

Not the best experience. She was actually fairly good mechanically but my complaints:

1) not as good looking as her photos. It's actually her, but she wears a lot of makeup and the photos are more flattering than they ought to be.

2) a slight attitude shift and a gtfo after we were done. My 1 hour lasted about 40 minutes despite the promise of a massage after.

3) refused me a BBBJ and cum on body despite being listed in her ad (I went back to check).

4) did not shower together, only separate. Found that a bit odd.

These are not minor complaints, and so I will not return and do not recommend. That said, she was otherwise totally pleasant and I thought her skills were quite good.

Thanks for the report. Is she really 5'7"?

[AbcGators]

Not the best experience. She was actually fairly good mechanically but my complaints:

1) not as good looking as her photos. It's actually her, but she wears a lot of makeup and the photos are more flattering than they ought to be.

2) a slight attitude shift and a gtfo after we were done. My 1 hour lasted about 40 minutes despite the promise of a massage after.

3) refused me a BBBJ and cum on body despite being listed in her ad (I went back to check).

4) did not shower together, only separate. Found that a bit odd.

These are not minor complaints, and so I will not return and do not recommend. That said, she was otherwise totally pleasant and I thought her skills were quite good.

[AbcGators]

Can't find Zinzin in MR or Euro. But thanks for your report regardless.
Please keep the reviews coming.

Well damn, I did some digging to help you find her (she's left Taiwan but I'm sure she'll be back) and am now realizing that Zinzin is likely post-op. That would be my first time, so two first times for me in the last two weeks LOL. I've accepted this fact, but I'm a bit bummed and embarrassed about calling her by far the best service I've ever received. It was true though and I guess it makes sense. In hindsight there are some other clues that I could have picked up on. But I'm surprised cause I didn't notice a difference in the actual activity. I have a friend who's experienced a TS before and described the obvious differences, but I simply didn't notice.

[Amazake]

I think you might have more experience than me at this point in Taiwan but I've never felt in any true danger of anything in Taiwan. At most I feel like I'll get lightly scammed or bait and switched. Up front robbery is something I doubt will happen. Maybe some theft. For the most part I think you'll even be safe from theft but always be careful. In your other post you had some alertness to guard against being robbed stolen from in 4 some. That's good instincts to have even if nothing happened.

That being said and I know this is Taiwan forum but man, 20 k ntd seems like a lot to pay for Filipinas for me now that I've experienced Philippines. That would have paid for a weeks worth of overnights in Angeles city. Or at least 2-3 nights in makati. It's like 4 k php to bar find a girl in AC and about 10 k for makati because you tip another 4 k in the morning there. That's girl bar prices too; apps or street girls would be much cheaper. It's over 50 php to the dollar. Of course Philippines is much more dangerous and you'll actually face the situation of being robbed especially in 3 some where you get distracted. That actually happen to me my first night, someone stole $40 from me which wasn't that bad a lesson. I know you can't compare apples to apples because PH is truly a 3rd world experience. Well makati isn't that bad if you just stay in that block radius and stay in a nice hotel.

I think you might have more experience than me at this point in Taiwan but I've never felt in any true danger of anything in Taiwan. At most I feel like I'll get lightly scammed or bait and switched. Up front robbery is something I doubt will happen. Maybe some theft. For the most part I think you'll even be safe from theft but always be careful. In your other post you had some alertness to guard against being robbed stolen from in 4 some. That's good instincts to have even if nothing happened.

That being said and I know this is Taiwan forum but man, 20 k ntd seems like a lot to pay for Filipinas for me now that I've experienced Philippines. That would have paid for a weeks worth of overnights in Angeles city. Or at least 2-3 nights in makati. It's like 4 k php to bar find a girl in AC and about 10 k for makati because you tip another 4 k in the morning there. That's girl bar prices too; apps or street girls would be much cheaper. It's over 50 php to the dollar. Of course Philippines is much more dangerous and you'll actually face the situation of being robbed especially in 3 some where you get distracted. That actually happen to me my first night, someone stole $40 from me which wasn't that bad a lesson. I know you can't compare apples to apples because PH is truly a 3rd world experience. Well makati isn't that bad if you just stay in that block radius and stay in a nice hotel.

You guys by now know that I do this hobby on the cheap.

And, I have always been cheap, even when making good money. But, I was never making money to the point where I could blow many thousands in say Las Vegas and not lose sleep.

Thrifty blokes like myself put houses and cars ahead of the hobby. Yet, still enjoying the hobby, enjoying budget girls down by the tracks, in shacks, in 5 story walkups and in alleyways. I also do love the degraded mystique of yesteryear, remnants of a third world country where locals found their needs met.

But, for others, who are more civilized than myself, they prefer a much higher standard. However, I do appease myself by oftentimes finding "diamonds in the rough. "But, those diamonds are founded by luck, and favorable circumstances, blessings from gods of the temples for good deeds and kindnesses I have offered to others in the course of my life.

And, once these "diamonds" are discovered, they are swooped away by some savvy pimp and then become his main more pricey attractions. Woefully, I remorse losing many of these "diamonds" after a single visit.

Some of these outings with 3 or more girls, like AbcGators enlisted are nicely choreographed, premium encounters, that are created and experienced to a point of great satisfaction, to be later crossed off the bucket list once fulfilled. They are a staged event of sorts, somewhat akin to having a rock star, porn star experience. It is important to have our desires fulfilled, in order for us to move on to bigger and better experiences. And, more importantly, they are as safe as possibly could be created.

Back some 10 years or so when the Huaxi Tea Rooms were younger, brighter and more vibrant, and I was feeling my full strength, I had three girls in the room, all good-looking and frisky, but two were more side dishes, and one was my main course. I got away with paying under 2 k. But, it was plenty fun.

I certainly watched my wallet constantly. But, it was certainly not as elaborate as the outing described here by AbcGators with full-play with all girls being in their 20's, with unhindered willingness and consent from all. I mean, this is a real unabashed sex party for 90 minutes. And, for Taiwan, not being a third-world country, in a major city like Taipei, 20 k is not really outrageous pricing, especially if it is disposable income. In western countries, it would be easily double or triple that.

For fulfillment of a major sex fantasy, done in a safe manner, where at least some of the girls can be sourced back by reputation and bound to uphold their integrity with respect to honesty and performance, I can see splurging in a fun and safe way, especially if it is money easily found, spent and recouped.

On the streets, trying to put three girls together like that for 90 minutes in Taiwan, would have to cost that much and the synergy would be disjointed, unprepared, lack of focus, a three-ring circus, as opposed to a low-budget film.

In many ways, I applaud the well-thought-out plan and successful completion to his satisfaction.

[Amazake]

Follow up on the new girl that landed, Karina.

I straight up asked her if she was post-op or born female and she said born female, but I still had a feeling that she was lying, since her voice over the call was definitely a bit deeper than a woman's. Ended up finding her on a few other trans escorts sites using her username as well as an old MR posting where she still had it listed that she was post-op.

My first hint should've been when one review said that she was extremely tall, but I could not tell at all from the face. Will probably end up cancelling my appointment with her.

Does anyone know if in terms of infections / STIs, it is more dangerous to be with a post-op trans woman? Just curious in case I'm ever interested in experiencing that.

Also was wondering, how many of my fellow mongers here are vaccinated for different types of STIs / or is just using condoms the way how most people do it?

Hoping that Amazake will answer as a long-time veteran haha.

Thank you for the invitation to speak.

All I use is a condom, being from an older generation when that was all that existed, anyway, and considered the gold-standard.

So, it is just done out of habit.

I am low tech in just about every phase of my life. And, that is not worthy of any accolades or being praise-worthy. Just laziness.

In fact, your point of bringing up vaccinations is a point well-taken and truly worthy of serious consideration, especially in light of the mileage on these ladies and their willingness to do anything for a buck. At some point, they must let their guard down to please a customer or to just want to get rid of him quickly and go raw.

Also, as a person like us exposed to so many women of high-use, when we eventually settle down with a lady of good moral stature, we don't want to expose an innocent lovely lady to these street diseases, ruin our relationship with her, and have her never respect us again, and possibly even killing her. How do you live that down?

Sorry for being so blunt, but I had a close-call once with a lady I cared deeply about, and it was embarrassing, and I was never treated again with the same reverence. So, I am giving you / all the straight dope for your future happiness. It is still a "raw" feeling in my psyche; no pun intended.

So, yes, every precaution to protect yourself and others sounds good, and I should probably get my lazy dog ass down to the vet's office and get my shots, too. But, until then, I will use a condom. And, again, preferably my own, if she is reaching for one of those pitiful, unwrapped, skimpy, narrow, third-world garage manufactured imitations, instead of a sturdy Trojan or Durex.

Good luck, my dear friend. Stay safe, clean, and I wish you and everyone else a healthy, satisfying, prosperous life.

[Nigt Rider]

Here's a little report from my time in Taipei:

I saw a lot of working girls along the sides of the Xichang night market, but there were also many police officers. Sometimes the police and girls would be talking to each other. I didn't dare approach.

The highlight was visiting Helen from Euro, who has been mentioned on this forum before. She loves to lick ass. Her price is 10 k now, but it was the best ass licking I've ever had. 30 minutes of her going crazy down there while stroking me. It was like nothing I've ever experienced. I saw her a few times. She'll make you feel special.

I saw another girl, Karina (Filipina), from MR and had a terrible experience. When I showered, there were like ten condoms in the rubbish bin. I think she'd been fucking guys all day. She was exhausted and was like a dead body on the bed. She just laid on her face while I fucked her from behind. She had a bad attitude too. I'm not sure why I didn't just leave. She tried to guilt trip me about her poverty and even asked for a tip. The whole experience left me feeling bad about myself..

This is actually a reply to Filler17.

Not quite sure if it is the same Karina. But HughJass said that she had so many customers that it was not a good experience.

[Nigt Rider]

Can anyone let me know how to reach her? I love rimming. Hard to find good providers that perform well at it.

You are in luck. She is back on Euro.

I don't like rimming so I asked her not to do that. But she is nice even without her signature move.

[Filler17]

Follow up on the new girl that landed, Karina.

I straight up asked her if she was post-op or born female and she said born female, but I still had a feeling that she was lying, since her voice over the call was definitely a bit deeper than a woman's. Ended up finding her on a few other trans escorts sites using her username as well as an old MR posting where she still had it listed that she was post-op.

My first hint should've been when one review said that she was extremely tall, but I could not tell at all from the face. Will probably end up cancelling my appointment with her.

Does anyone know if in terms of infections / STIs, it is more dangerous to be with a post-op trans woman? Just curious in case I'm ever interested in experiencing that.

Also was wondering, how many of my fellow mongers here are vaccinated for different types of STIs / or is just using condoms the way how most people do it?

Hoping that Amazake will answer as a long-time veteran haha.

[Nigt Rider]

Just got to give a shout-out to zinzin. From a service standpoint, she is the absolute far and a way the #1 I've ever seen in this hobby. By far. She says she is a mixed Viet / Russian girl who lives in Thailand. She says that she is relatively new to this career. I have no reason to doubt her on those things, but what I can say with certainty is she is both experienced and passionate about sex. Wow, there's no way she could fake the enthusiasm she gives. She honestly did not seem like the money mattered to her. Also gave me an extremely extended visit, kinda seemed sad that I decided to leave when I left (after the second shot which is a RARITY for me). She also gave me an absolutely incredible full body massage in the middle of our session while I was recuperating and she was extremely pleasant about anything and everything the entire evening. She has tons of rave reviews on the MR site, and they were all 100% true to my experience. Oh yeah and her hotel was the nicest one I've seen so far in this hobby in Taipei. Made it an even more comfortable experience.

My one and only caveat is that she kept the room dimly lit the entire time so I can't give a supremely accurate rating of her looks. My best guess is that she's a cute girl with a nice upper body and maybe a few extra pounds in the stomach and ass regions. Which for some folks might be a good thing. Her photos seem to be 100% accurate. When she returns to Taiwan, I highly recommend seeing her and treating her well. I really hope she doesn't get burned out or mistreated in any way, she's super sweet and I would love to see her again.

Can't find Zinzin in MR or Euro. But thanks for your report regardless.

In terms of safety, I felt safe in my experience. But I can't say I am an expert in this. But after going through a few escorts, experiences in every girls are different and they felt more vulnerable than we are.

I certainly tried listings that appear to be too good to be true. Some girls are even more beautiful than their postings（already amazing) but the experience was lacking. Some girls are gorgeous and the experiences are OK. There seems to be quite a few bait and switch going on. But I had a great time in some of those because the girls looked nice and the experience was great.

I believe I posted some of my experiences here.

I haven't been in Taiwan for a few months and haven't kept up with recent listings on MR and Euro.

Please keep the reviews coming.

[Filler17]

Recently saw a new girl has arrived in Taiwan, and the pictures seemed too good to be true. Ended up video calling her and discussing her price / services.

She said it was 10 k incall for 1-2 hours and 15 k incall for 2-3 hours. Unlimited shots and will let you do anything.

I have an appointment scheduled with her tomorrow at 2 pm and was wondering if there is anything I should be worried about as it seems to good to be true. Any possibility its a TS?

[AbcGators]

Just got to give a shout-out to zinzin. From a service standpoint, she is the absolute far and a way the #1 I've ever seen in this hobby. By far. She says she is a mixed Viet / Russian girl who lives in Thailand. She says that she is relatively new to this career. I have no reason to doubt her on those things, but what I can say with certainty is she is both experienced and passionate about sex. Wow, there's no way she could fake the enthusiasm she gives. She honestly did not seem like the money mattered to her. Also gave me an extremely extended visit, kinda seemed sad that I decided to leave when I left (after the second shot which is a RARITY for me). She also gave me an absolutely incredible full body massage in the middle of our session while I was recuperating and she was extremely pleasant about anything and everything the entire evening. She has tons of rave reviews on the MR site, and they were all 100% true to my experience. Oh yeah and her hotel was the nicest one I've seen so far in this hobby in Taipei. Made it an even more comfortable experience.

My one and only caveat is that she kept the room dimly lit the entire time so I can't give a supremely accurate rating of her looks. My best guess is that she's a cute girl with a nice upper body and maybe a few extra pounds in the stomach and ass regions. Which for some folks might be a good thing. Her photos seem to be 100% accurate. When she returns to Taiwan, I highly recommend seeing her and treating her well. I really hope she doesn't get burned out or mistreated in any way, she's super sweet and I would love to see her again.

[AbcGators]

I think you might have more experience than me at this point in Taiwan but I've never felt in any true danger of anything in Taiwan. At most I feel like I'll get lightly scammed or bait and switched. Up front robbery is something I doubt will happen. Maybe some theft. For the most part I think you'll even be safe from theft but always be careful. In your other post you had some alertness to guard against being robbed stolen from in 4 some. That's good instincts to have even if nothing happened.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah that's basically how I feel. I just didn't want to let my guard down and walk into a trap. A lot of these fake listings are a 100% immediate no go in the USA, but here I'm thinking I could just take a look cause some of them are just too tempting!

That being said and I know this is Taiwan forum but man, 20 k ntd seems like a lot to pay for Filipinas for me now that I've experienced Philippines. That would have paid for a weeks worth of overnights in Angeles city. Or at least 2-3 nights in makati. It's like 4 k php to bar find a girl in AC and about 10 k for makati because you tip another 4 k in the morning there. That's girl bar prices too; apps or street girls would be much cheaper. It's over 50 php to the dollar. Of course Philippines is much more dangerous and you'll actually face the situation of being robbed especially in 3 some where you get distracted. That actually happen to me my first night, someone stole $40 from me which wasn't that bad a lesson. I know you can't compare apples to apples because PH is truly a 3rd world experience. Well makati isn't that bad if you just stay in that block radius and stay in a nice hotel.

Yeah I hear ya, but in a way it's not apples to apples cause I'm not in a position where I can just take off to Vietnam / Philippines / etc whenever I want to. Definitely jealous of any of the fellas on here who are free to do whatever they want. And actually, if I was free as a bird I'd probably do far less of this paid stuff cause it does seem I am more than capable of pulling some attractive ladies on my own. But alas I'm probably in my twilight years of still being able to do so. I am hoping to get a job soon that will require me to make some trips around Asia. But it's far from a certainty. So I can only take what's available here in Taiwan. And furthermore, two of the three Filipinas I met are based in UAE, so their context is quite different from back home I imagine.

[Pickley]

Sorry, I hate to beat a dead horse and be pedantic, but everyone who's replied to my question keeps saying to trust my gut, be safe, don't be afraid to walk away, etc. But I really am wanting to know, in all likelihood, what is the worst that could happen? How much caution should I take towards being scammed / blackmailed? Being robbed? Have you all heard / seen such things? Or in the vast likelihood is the worst situation simply a bait and switch where they just hope that you will settle for what you see? Cause I'm finding lots of TGTBT listings, which I would never even consider for a moment in the US, but here I'm thinking why not just go give it a chance. Cause what's the worst that could happen?

I think you might have more experience than me at this point in Taiwan but I've never felt in any true danger of anything in Taiwan. At most I feel like I'll get lightly scammed or bait and switched. Up front robbery is something I doubt will happen. Maybe some theft. For the most part I think you'll even be safe from theft but always be careful. In your other post you had some alertness to guard against being robbed stolen from in 4 some. That's good instincts to have even if nothing happened.

That being said and I know this is Taiwan forum but man, 20 k ntd seems like a lot to pay for Filipinas for me now that I've experienced Philippines. That would have paid for a weeks worth of overnights in Angeles city. Or at least 2-3 nights in makati. It's like 4 k php to bar find a girl in AC and about 10 k for makati because you tip another 4 k in the morning there. That's girl bar prices too; apps or street girls would be much cheaper. It's over 50 php to the dollar. Of course Philippines is much more dangerous and you'll actually face the situation of being robbed especially in 3 some where you get distracted. That actually happen to me my first night, someone stole $40 from me which wasn't that bad a lesson. I know you can't compare apples to apples because PH is truly a 3rd world experience. Well makati isn't that bad if you just stay in that block radius and stay in a nice hotel.

[Amazake]

Hello Boys:

I was in my regular Wanhua haunt. Had a massage at the nail salon. Great massage. She was weak. So, when they are weak, I have them walk on my body. So, it was greatly relaxing. But, because of her cuteness, and unable to deliver in the sensual department, I became a bit savage, upon leaving. But, it had to be the right one.

I searched high and low for someone to fit the bill. My old dates welcomed me, but my memory of their energy level and passion, forced me to turn them all down, much to their disappointment.

I almost gave up, but a very smiley, giggly, robust Thai "Betty Boop" stole my attention. I knew it was her or bust. Met her while walking the alleys between Kangding and Xichang Market.

Told her that I was in great need and got her to promise to deliver. She giggled and told me not to worry my heart. She was confident, game, ready, willing, and more than able. Such a cute, vibrant, zesty, sexy young lady.

Did I mention "Betty Boop?" I wasn't lying. Shorter, amazingly spectacular hips, no waist line, gorgeous plump breast and nipples, luxurious hair and in her twenties. Very cute and sexy. (Sorry; rambling and being repetitious, am I).

We went at it like two pigs in heat. Plenty of screams, whimpers, banging, orgasms; the girl loved being out of control, loved to grind and be submissive. Easily transitioning from being dominant to submissive and back again.

Went past the buzzer, and she answered her precautionary phone call from her manager and she said that all was fine in between her huffing and puffing. She put down the phone, and we went at it one more time.

Took a shower together, gave me a hug and we departed.

I'll tell you boys, if this was my last rodeo on earth, I could leave well-contented and satisfied. There is nothing left undone, nor to be desired for.