Taipei

[Mr X 69]

Hello, all; I am a long-time lurker but infrequent poster.

Unfortunately I do not have the funds to go mongering, so I have to live vicariously through the exploits of others. You are all my idols! However, I am lucky enough to have a few good freebies though (currently 4) so I don't miss out.

If you are looking for freebies I can share some advice on where I got mine, and also other places I have seen opportunities, although I have not followed them myself.

There are some websites, namely AFF which has yielded some good results for me. However around 95% of the profiles on there are fake, used to attract guys to buy the memberships. Of the remaining genuine profiles, the girls get bombarded with emails from horny guys, so if you do send contact emails you need to make them genuine and interesting. I had a 3 month membership and got some good contacts, but have canceled now.

You can also post on other websites in TW like tealit and the contact site affiliated with forumosa where many girls look for BFs and LE, although many relationships start from there. There is also a free dating website called plentyoffish, although these sites are for dating and not necessarily sex hookups.

Then there is CL. There are contacts sections there, and also an erotic services section. There are some ads in the erotic services section that obviously use fake pics, but one or two that seem to be more genuine. One girl called Lava and another called Kiki in particular, although I have not tried them. Recently one ad said they represented models who wanted extra income, but I have never contacted them so do not know if this is another scam or not.

There is also an escort listing website (I forget the name) which lists one or two escorts in TW.

Sometimes when walking along Linsen North road I get approached by touts asking if I want a girl, but never followed that up.

Anyway, I hope this helps if you want to find something long term without spending too much money. My freebies are very willing and sexually charged and love what we do, so perhaps the experience is better than many WGs (not that I know!). I am happy to share more info if others are interested.

[E Z Rhino]

Yes, I think I am looking for a fishbowl. The KTV places I go to lets you cycle through girls, but they don't give me a line-up so it takes a lot of time and haggling to get one you like. Plus, the money adds up if I have to spend that kind of money/time/drinking every time I need a girl. ... I prefer a fishbowl because it doesn't require the time of rejecting girls one by one and is the least time/money commitment of all methods.

I see your point. Sheer efficiency is one of the highlights of our hobby. I mean, even married men, they only get it "doggy style": an hour of begging, then she rolls over and plays dead!

I hate to say it, but if you scan through the 2500 posts in this Taipei forum, spanning back several years, you won't find many fishbowls or lineups. Its possible that this will change if, over the next few years, the MOI completes its legalization, then some cities approve red light districts, then competition forces owners to stock good wares and display them all at once.

In the mean time, I've seen okay lineups in San Francisco, but the best I've seen were in Macau. From reading other forums here, I'm sure you could get a great selection in Rio, if you don't get mugged. And the FKK clubs in Germany too, thought most are hardly in the city centers. And of course there's always Thailand. You're right, the fishbowl is really the most efficient method; you can take as much time as you need, and the girls can't really see the customers so there's less pressure all around.

[Pleasure Dude]

James,

Excellent advice as usual and I think I am not going to waste anytime at Shinning Star. I will be arriving in Taipei next Wednesday or Thursday night and only staying there until Sunday. Time is too short for me to play any games with the girls at shinning star. I just want to find a really hot girl that I really like and pay all the necessary cost for her companionship. Cost is not an issue if the girl is worth it. What do you guys think the cost will be to have the girl hangout with you for an entire day? Even though I am Taiwanese myself, I pretty much grew up in the states and do not know much about Taiwan. It would be nice to have someone to show me around town.

Lastly, I am still looking for a wingman for some ktv fun next weekend. If anyone is interested, please shoot me a message. I have gone to many KTVs in China but never in Taiwan. It will be an incredible experience.

Cheers,
PD

It would be great if you could try out yuki and give some feedback! I would think all the outcalls are similar, but I do remember reading a post a while ago from one of the senior members who got really mad at yuki because she sent him one ugly chick after another for 3-4 in a row! I think it partially matters if you speak any Chinese. Most people in Asia think either 1)Caucasians can't tell asian girls apart 2)Caucasians tend to go after what asians would consider 'ugly' girls. I'm not saying this is true, but it is a preconception.

I will be in Taipei a lot from Feb-Jun and we can go clubbing then. Don't worry too much about costs, cover is pretty cheap in Taipei and you even get a couple drinks with it.

I can give you my high-end KTV contact if you want. Its interesting to experience if you haven't before (they have strip shows periodically), but its pretty expensive. Its not too expensive if you don't take a girl home (since that requires girl's fees, barfines, house fees, hotel fees . . .)

If you want a massage and a HJ from a hot chick, I thought #50 (Xiao3 Fei1)at Shining Star on LinSenBeiLu was an 8. But, its not cheap either compared to outcall. If you just want to bang a hot chick for 6k, I can recommend one. Or you can try cycling through an outcall until you get one you like. They don't charge you anything for sending girls away. AND, somehow, the next ones arrives 15-20 minutes after the previous one!

[James Chang 313]

Hey, this post is actually for Pleasure Dude and anyone who is going to be in Taipei for the next six months. .

It would be great if you could try out yuki and give some feedback! I would think all the outcalls are similar, but I do remember reading a post a while ago from one of the senior members who got really mad at yuki because she sent him one ugly chick after another for 3-4 in a row! I think it partially matters if you speak any Chinese. Most people in Asia think either 1)Caucasians can't tell asian girls apart 2)Caucasians tend to go after what asians would consider 'ugly' girls. I'm not saying this is true, but it is a preconception.

I will be in Taipei a lot from Feb-Jun and we can go clubbing then. Don't worry too much about costs, cover is pretty cheap in Taipei and you even get a couple drinks with it.

I can give you my high-end KTV contact if you want. Its interesting to experience if you haven't before (they have strip shows periodically), but its pretty expensive. Its not too expensive if you don't take a girl home (since that requires girl's fees, barfines, house fees, hotel fees . . .)

If you want a massage and a HJ from a hot chick, I thought #50 (Xiao3 Fei1)at Shining Star on LinSenBeiLu was an 8. But, its not cheap either compared to outcall. If you just want to bang a hot chick for 6k, I can recommend one. Or you can try cycling through an outcall until you get one you like. They don't charge you anything for sending girls away. AND, somehow, the next ones arrives 15-20 minutes after the previous one!

[James Chang 313]

Technically, I consider the "Asian Mens Spa" (I wouldn't use the term "bath house") to be an incall. Not sure what the exact definition is. If you scan through this long thread going back a few months or years you will find a few e.g. Caesars mentioned. I've not seen a fishbowl here. Maybe you can get a bit of a line-up at a KTV. Best line-up I saw was in Macau

Yes, I think I am looking for a fishbowl. The KTV places I go to lets you cycle through girls, but they don't give me a line-up so it takes a lot of time and haggling to get one you like. Plus, the money adds up if I have to spend that kind of money/time/drinking every time I need a girl.

I haven't tried Ceasars yet. I've been consistently reading posts, and it does seem like the quality of girl is lower, and there is no lineup either. (economics dictates that there probably is no reason for the hot girls to work there, they would make more money more easily at KTV or outcall.)

This porn guy told me this place has a lineup of more than 5 Taiwanese girls. I hope its not a scam or upsell, and I will try it out and let you guys know.

I prefer a fishbowl because it doesn't require the time of rejecting girls one by one and is the least time/money commitment of all methods.

[James Chang 313]

Will I be able to hook up with those 9 girl at 20k from outcall services such as yuki or aiko? Will be in town next weekend and definitely am interested in those model materials.

Cheers,

PD

I haven't tried Yuki/Aiko yet so I'm not sure what quality they have. I'm out of Taipei until beginning of Feb but we can go clubbing then if you are free.

Outcall is about hit and miss. I have gotten ugly girls for more money and hotter girls for less money. Again, I think they try to keep their ugly girls busy so they will pawn off whatever they think you will take. This is why it is important to send a couple back.

Its hard to vouch for any one outcall service; all have sent me an ugly girl at least once. I think a better way is to recommend specific girls at an outcall service. I can recommend one I met last week, 8. 0-8. 5 for 6k if you are interested, you can message me and I will give you the info.

The only other way to progressively get better looking girls is to compare them to the manager. Example: I just had girl A yesterday, please send me another girl today better looking than her. I have found this to work, but they typically ask for more money too.

[E Z Rhino]

Call outcalls, which he says the china girl price is 3k, and more expensive for taiwanese girls. Or incall, which he says is exclusive and you need to be led in by someone in the know. He gave me some outcall numbers and his number and offered to show me the incall places, which are supposedly all taiwanese girls.

I'm pretty sure this means he makes a cut for bringing me in, but the pricing structure he explained means that I have been overpaying for hobbying here so far.

I'll let you guys know when i finally find an incall.

Technically, I consider the "Asian Mens Spa" (I wouldn't use the term "bath house") to be an incall. Not sure what the exact definition is. If you scan through this long thread going back a few months or years you will find a few e.g. Caesars mentioned. I've not seen a fishbowl here. Maybe you can get a bit of a line-up at a KTV. Best line-up I saw was in Macau; they have nicer spas than here or maybe even Hong Kong in my limited experience. Actually come to think of it, I did see some line-ups in SanChong, but it was like, which of these 4 ugly old slatterns do you choose, answer, thanks but no thanks. Really its simply about wanting better quality and choice. Maybe lineups are rare because they create jealousy between the girls, or they expose everyone to the police at once. Or on second thought, maybe its just the way they peddle their merchandise. I mean, imagine if fruit vendors operated the same way... they'd start by showing you the old rotting fruit first... only grudgingly working their way up to the quality product for the discerning buyer... Anyway James I'm not sure what this incall will consist of... maybe its an apartment stocked with mainland girls... maybe its a trip to SanChong shacks... I'd be a bit surprised if there is some new format not mentioned in this thread... maybe its a rub-n-tug massage joint with a lineup and full service. I think your outcall for 4K + 800 sounds like a good situation, except it doesn't give much selection. Though over the course of several months one will have seen dozens of girls and can find some gems to repeat with n'est pas?

[Wanpo]

Hey, this post is actually for Pleasure Dude and anyone who is going to be in Taipei for the next six months. I've been reading up on this forum so far as a guest and the opportunity to introduce myself has arisen. Anyway, if James Chang or Pleasure Dude are willing to meet up for Room 18, Primo, Luxy, etc I'd be willing to come along. My friend actually has a few contacts so cover at Room 18, Deep Passion, and some other clubs can either be waived or discounted. I also know the grandson of the person who designed plush, and if I get in contact with them I'll see what I can do.

So far I've been looking at the posts regarding outcall and Yuki/Aiko for the most part and as a first timer in Taipei I was wondering what would be the best thing do for myself? I'm on a relatively limited budget. I'm willing to spend 5k max and so far I've seen some pretty good deals up to 4k + the rest hotels. James, so far you've been a great help and I was wondering if you would be able to hook it up with your adventures. Hopefully the 9s, 8. 5s, and 8s will be available to all of us, as well as the girls from that one porn shop guy. By any chance, was it the one near Taipei Main Station? Next to Shin Kong Mitsukoshi? I actually think that's the life tower now though. It's on the bottom floor and it's called ap-ch2?

Anyway, I've picked up a copy of the newspaper with the outcalls so if anyone needs updated numbers I have them with me.

Abcboy,

I completely agree, I am willing to pay for quality too. And, at KTV you so get to choose sp I have had a couple 9's there too. Its just too expensive for me to go KTV often, and there is a large sunk cost, even if you don't find one you like. Plus, it feels funny to go by myself, sometimes I don't feel like playing drinking games and getting trashed before I get the girl.

I'm looking for a better way, but I think I might have found one. Will keep you guys posted. We're resourceful enough that we can find it together.

Anyone need a wingwang for regular clubbing? (Roxy, primo, 18, spark)

[Pleasure Dude]

Will I be able to hook up with those 9 girl at 20k from outcall services such as yuki or aiko? Will be in town next weekend and definitely am interested in those model materials.

cheers,
PD

I've been buying the Taipei Times regularly lately. As I expected, the ads are back today. My only explanation for why they disappeared is that they like to put up window dressing for US morality on Sunday and holidays?

I'm in a LTR right now, but IMHO this forum has finally had some breakthroughs, after years of "just fly to another country" and "just go to Caesars and spend 4200 for a 35 year old".

It now seems workable to get a 9 for 20K not 30K, an 8.5 for 6K, and an 8 for 4K, based on some of the recent posts, and assuming we're all on the same rating scale.

[Pleasure Dude]

Hi James,

Great report and I definitely agree with you guys' view on paying a bit extra for the hot looking local girls. For us guys living in the states, it is so difficult to even find a decent looking outcall girl at a decent rate. James, will you be in town next weekend? We can visit some of the clubs in Taipei.

PD

Abcboy,

I completely agree, I am willing to pay for quality too. And, at KTV you so get to choose sp I have had a couple 9's there too. Its just too expensive for me to go KTV often, and there is a large sunk cost, even if you don't find one you like. Plus, it feels funny to go by myself, sometimes I don't feel like playing drinking games and getting trashed before I get the girl.

I'm looking for a better way, but I think I might have found one. Will keep you guys posted. We're resourceful enough that we can find it together.

Anyone need a wingwang for regular clubbing? (Roxy, primo, 18, spark)

[E Z Rhino]

James' first 2 posts IMHO have him my vote for rookie of the year, so can anyone help him out with Yuki's phone number?

I've been buying the Taipei Times regularly lately. As I expected, the ads are back today. My only explanation for why they disappeared is that they like to put up window dressing for US morality on Sunday and holidays?

I'm in a LTR right now, but IMHO this forum has finally had some breakthroughs, after years of "just fly to another country" and "just go to Caesars and spend 4200 for a 35 year old".

It now seems workable to get a 9 for 20K not 30K, an 8.5 for 6K, and an 8 for 4K, based on some of the recent posts, and assuming we're all on the same rating scale.

[James Chang 313]

OK, I will get a membership ASAP.

Incalls do exist!

I walked into a porn store today. (The kind that sells 50 copied old porn dvd's for 1000 NT) Doesn't everyone get their porn online these days? When I was the only person left, the owner (30 year old taiwanese guy) asked me if I wanted to buy some 'illegal' dvd's that are uncensored. Apparently, you can't show penetration in much of Asia. I joked with him that all porn is uncensored where I come from, and I would much rather find sex.

He explained to me that I could go to KTV which is pricey. Call outcalls, which he says the china girl price is 3k, and more expensive for taiwanese girls. Or incall, which he says is exclusive and you need to be led in by someone in the know. He gave me some outcall numbers and his number and offered to show me the incall places, which are supposedly all taiwanese girls.

I'm pretty sure this means he makes a cut for bringing me in, but the pricing structure he explained means that I have been overpaying for hobbying here so far.

I'll let you guys know when i finally find an incall.

[James Chang 313]

I checked at 4 hotels. You guys are right, everyone offers a rest rate. Plus, no ID needed! (what happens if you trash the room?)

I had 4 more outcalls. There is no real correlation between looks and price, after you pass $4000. The reason is because while WE think its cheap at $6k, they don't have enough local customers to keep the girls busy. I tried 3 outcalls. After I offered to pay $6k, one told me that if I paid $8k, she would get me a model worth $10k. She sent me a 29 year old with only 6 looks, and fishy smelling. Another outcall sent me a 20 year old model for $6k. Granted I had to send the girl before her back, but the price didn't go up.

Allegedly, some magazine models do this very part-time for upwards of $10k. I'm going to see if I can get pictures before they send those. Maybe worth the extra money.

[James Chang 313]

Abcboy,

I completely agree, I am willing to pay for quality too. And, at KTV you so get to choose sp I have had a couple 9's there too. Its just too expensive for me to go KTV often, and there is a large sunk cost, even if you don't find one you like. Plus, it feels funny to go by myself, sometimes I don't feel like playing drinking games and getting trashed before I get the girl.

I'm looking for a better way, but I think I might have found one. Will keep you guys posted. We're resourceful enough that we can find it together.

Anyone need a wingwang for regular clubbing? (Roxy, primo, 18, spark)

[Abc Boy]

Hi guys, I'm in Taipei now and renewing my research here. Its been a few months since the last time I was here.

High end KTV. The girls are hot, and you do get to choose, but its not cost effective. Expect to spend $700US if you want to take them home. What's worse, you can cycle through many girls and not find one you like if you are really picky, and you can end up spending $350US for the nite, and NOT take anyone back.

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Simply reject the girls KTV manager sends you until you are satisfy with a girl you like, that's what I always do and never have a problem. Yes, $700 is steep but it's a fair price in my opinion to have special fun with a 9+ face looking girl (keep rejecting, it will come)