Taipei

[Taichunger]

Darkman2, you are my hero. I thought I was an old hand at Taiwan mongering, but you have far outdone me. And I friggin LIVE here!

Next time you are in Taiwan, come to Taichung. I'll pay for drinks if you'll teach me how you pulled this stuff off!

[Ace Gallant]

Brother Darkman,

Let's face it: I don't think many of us have had the pleasure of negotiating a 4P party. If you had fun, then great. If not, doesn't matter how much (or how little) you paid, it wasn't worth it.

BC

BC, you made me feel real lucky! Buy you a drink the next time I am in Taipei.

Cheers!

[Ace Gallant]

hi darkman,

kudos on your mongering skills! i have to try the westgate thing next time i am in tw. i am wondering if it will work for a white guy with extremely limited mandarin skills, though.

4k for lt is pretty good.

20k for 4p lt sounds like an ok deal to me considering that most higher-end ktv takeouts cost from 10k up for one girl. i am curious - did they get into lesbian games or was it purely taking turns serving you? i'd be willing to pay 20k for the former...

cheers!

gi,

i think it will work better for white guy, because they will approach you, while for me who is asian looking, i have to spend the first 5mins "conviencing" them that i am foreigners. on language wise, the girls i had spoke only little english, but i guess in negotiations like these you don;t need much isn't it ? more of writting numbers?? but just as we said, be careful of **** girls.

i was told never to take girls out of ktv because the ktv will charge prices that are way out! 10k - 12k but the girls will only get only about 1k out of the deal and thus poor service from them. my experience was to ask the girl directly for their mobile numbers, call them after work hours and they will be happier to entertain you.

4p means 3 girls and myself, 20k is about 6.5k for lt each. but i think we should not compare with ktv girls. i was told even that was a good price.

oops ... got to catch my transiting flight!

cheers!

[Business Class]

Sorry to keep asking, I just need to get the prices right and also for benefits of everyone and not get ripped off like my staff!

Cheers!
DK

Brother Darkman,

Let's face it: I don't think many of us have had the pleasure of negotiating a 4P party. If you had fun, then great. If not, doesn't matter how much (or how little) you paid, it wasn't worth it.

BC

[Guy I]

Hi Darkman,

Kudos on your mongering skills! I have to try the Westgate thing next time I am in TW. I am wondering if it will work for a white guy with extremely limited mandarin skills, though.

4k for LT is pretty good.

20k for 4P LT sounds like an OK deal to me considering that most higher-end KTV takeouts cost from 10k up for one girl. I am curious - did they get into lesbian games or was it purely taking turns serving you? I'd be willing to pay 20k for the former...

Cheers!

[Ace Gallant]

What about the 20,000 for the 4P party, is that still a good price?

Sorry to keep asking, I just need to get the prices right and also for benefits of everyone and not get ripped off like my staff!

Cheers!
DK

[Ace Gallant]

brother darkman,
imho, i think it's a good deal. i've tried yuki's friends (as have many others on this board) and the going rate is 3000 st once you negotiate down from her initial 5000 or so. except for the first time with a native taiwanese girl, the rest have been ho hum in the gfe department.
i think 4000 for a lt buffet is definitely worth it. you even got some anal action in there! kudos!
these days, you can't tell the difference between 17 year olds and college girls with all the makeup and revealing clothing.
bc

oh? you meant af is an extra item which i need to pay for? oops...! sound like tokyo which i lived for past 4 years. sorry, see how quickly i forgot after i moved from tokyo to shanghai.

unfortunately, my staff (white man) tried yuki's girls, in fact yuki also advertise on the local papers! seems like he got ripped off at 4500 for an st.

the two girl from west gate said they are native taipeinese.. but #18 was from somewhere east taiwan.

as for the ****... well i agree if we know that they are **** we should stay away. don't want to get into any trouble either. besides, i found the younger they are the more inexperience they are. its all work for you! if you read my posting in beijing, you will find that that's a lot of work! the only difference is that young girls have better looking pussy and not looks so "used". (i know that sound sick!)

as you said, age is not written on their forehead and at the moment of negotiation will you demand to look at their ids?

what about the 20,000 for the 4p party, is that still a good price?

[Business Class]

need advise from experts from this board: "4000 for lt is good price or not?"

brother darkman,

imho, i think it's a good deal. i've tried yuki's friends (as have many others on this board) and the going rate is 3000 st once you negotiate down from her initial 5000 or so. except for the first time with a native taiwanese girl, the rest have been ho hum in the gfe department.

i think 4000 for a lt buffet is definitely worth it. you even got some anal action in there! kudos!

as for the earlier comment by brother lovelyonetwo concerning **** girls, i am in complete agreement. don't go there fellow brothers. let's keep it clean and "innocent". however, in brother darkman's defense, sounds like he found out about the two teenagers after-the-fact. these days, you can't tell the difference between 17 year olds and college girls with all the makeup and revealing clothing.

bc

[Ace Gallant]

Well Guys,

Hope that my reports is informative, I am off back to home land USA tomorrow and be in my strong playground Shanghai next week and my previous strong play ground Tokyo the week after. Any fellows going that way please PM me or read my posting there for Shanghai info or Tokyo. Be glad to share.

All I want to say it Thanks for all your good posting and it had been great to have information from you guys. But I'll Be Back next month!

Cheers!

[Ace Gallant]

Received a call from #18 of Cesar Sauna at around 7pm last evening. She said she wanted to meet me for dinner and whatever happeneds after that depends on her mood.

Met her at the hotel lobby, had dinner at the Cha Yi place on the second floor of Hyatt. We spoke during dinner and I pop the question to her; how much she wants for tonight? Straight question met a straight answer, 4000. I told her that the Sauna cost 4,200 that's not much difference isn't it? Beside this dinner will cost 600. Replied was, But I will be yours for the night and I make sure you enjoyed double what you enjoyed in the Sauna. Anyways, I just want the fun of bargaining, not really wants to pay them less..... agreed on the price and proceed to my room after the dinner.

Once inside the room, we had a great time! I lost count of how many times I did her, (or rather she was on top of me most of the time!) Great GFE! Everytime she orgazm she will hug on to me as if she is my GF and do not wants to let go! Only complains is that she had never done AF (Anal Fk) before so I have to break her in. Fortunately I had a tube of lube in my luggage. She did not like it and complained that it is too painful. She told me that in Taiwan girls don't do AF (Is that true?)

By the time we reach morning 3am, we ran out of rubbers, and both of us are still horny, so she have to do uncovered BJ for me while I finger her till she cum. Strange thing though.... she did not complain about me cumming inside her mouth and in fact she proceed to clean up my brother with her tongue. By the time she is done, I don't have to wash up my brother! not a drop left!

I asked her "isn't that dangerous? Do you do this all the time? You can get diease easily like that!" Her replied was: "If diease, must be from you!"

Went to sleep after that and woke up at 7 to have breakfast, paid her and sent her off. She said she wants to see me again after work tomorrow morning. Too bad I am on early morning flight into Singapore and said "No" She was fast to reply, don't worry "No Money" I still said No, I am off to USA and her last words are "Please bring me to USA with you? You come back look for me ok?"- Yah Yah.... Boy am I going to let myself get caught into this?

So Conclusion. You guys should try #18. Great service and make arrangement after work for "Continuous Enjoyment"

Need advise from experts from this board: "4000 for LT is good price or not?"

[Ace Gallant]

It is illegal in Taiwan to sleep with children under tha age of 18. It is abhorent that you can even post such an article Darkman. It is my hope that you are caught by the police.

Are you jealous or what? I been on this board for a year now and I never seen anyone cursing at fellow members hoping he gets caught by police.

Fellows this guy is definately not one of us! If he is one of us why will he stop us from mongering and sharing information on the board. Isn't that is what this board about?

Besides, those two girls said they are 17 after the whole thing is over. How would you know? If you like the police to come after me, please ask them to do so, I am staying in Grand Hyatt room 2404.

[Ace Gallant]

Typhoon on Sunday, heard that there is a pick up bar called "Taven" near Grand Hyatt hotel, also near Taipei 101.

After a bit of navigations I found the place. ITs a sport bar. I see there are even people bringing their family there. strikes me as "Not a mongering spot". Arrive at about 8pm. Place is lots of guys, does not looks like any nice girls. Glab a dinner. and in the middle of my dinner a group of 3 girls came in. Seated next table to me. They did not take noticed of me as I am Asian. Not until I started ordering my next round of Square Bear (Australian Rum) using English with American English. Suddently all three girls turn and looked at me!

One of them, Amy started asking me. "Where are you from?" I turn on my charms..... and things got on..... some negotiations and they ended up in my room 2 hours later. My first foursome in Taiwan! Damage: 20,000 for LT foursome till this morning. They left at about 10 this morning. The only problem was that you can't believe the looks in the security's face when I walked into my hotel with 3 girls dress to kill type! Although the service you get from these girls are not fantastic, but with three of them all together , well, I guess enough to satisfy me for a night.

Conclusion: The Taven. Freelances available.

[Ace Gallant]

The Place is called Cesar Sauna at Asiaworld plaza. In Chinese: 亚太 .

I went there on Sat night at around 10pm.

Nice big hot pool and small cold pool. Same as any Saunas in Japan, SIngapore, Shanghai, HongKong or Macau, you take off all your clothes in the locker room and proceed to shower room, hot pools, Sauna, Steam bath etc.

After that you proceed to rest area where you can order food or read porno magazines, watch TV on large screens.

Drinks are free, but the food is chargeable. Food is not that bad! What I did not like is that mama san keep on rushing and pestering you on go upstairs for special massage.

The Special massage is NT4200. she will tell you the entance fees for the sauna is already 600 blah blah blah. You you want a real massage by a male, it is 400, and if you want a real massage by a girl. it is 1000. This is done in open room between the shower room and the rest area.

For special massage; you can tell the mama san the type of girl you like, Young, big burst, slim, whatever. Once you agreed for the service, mama san will lead you upstairs, though a secret door into your rooms. You wait for about 2 mins for the girl to come into your room. Once the girl enter your room, she will ask you whether it is ok for her to service you? If she is not your type, ask for a change and the next girl will come in. I was told by someone that you are allow maximum of 3 changes, Don;t believe in that! I change 4 girls before I got one that is my type! This is where I conclude that telling the mama san your type of girl is useless! She will still push whatever girls available to you. After you say Yes, she will call the receiption and tell them your locker number. She will than tell you to wait a while when she go to fetch some stuff. (Those rubbers) tissues, Hot tea...etc. Where is another tip:Try to chose a room that you have to walk further in. Why? Because it is nearer to the girls' resting room. If the room are too far away, they girls will take a long time to return with the "equipment." Remember time for "massage" start from the time you say "yes".

The service differ from girl to girl. I had two special massages there and both of the girls have different levels of service. Tip: Forget about the massage! they are hopeless in that! Tell the girl go straight into special service.

According to the massage girl, all the girls in this saunas are between 25 to 35. so if you don;t ask for change or specify directly to mama san that you only want below 30 girls, you might ended up with a old maid!

The first girl I had was #38...terrible service. can;t even fake her moaning! after 30 mins of pumping still cannot get me to cum. So I got her to BJ me without rubbers. After a bit of conviencing she agreed but told me to tell her when I am ready to cum. I didn't care. other 15mins of bj I cum straight into her mouth and holding her head tight so she cannot withdraw!

She was pissed! After I let her go, she split it out, washed her mouth and scolded me saying that she told me to let her know before I was ready to cum. I just said: Her service and pussy was bad, but her BJ was go good that I did not had time to tell her and also I felt good like I am in heaven so I forgot! After hearing that, she stopped complaining and said "You sure have a lot of it, I was angry because I almost choke to death. Sorry I did not mean what I said just now, don' complain to the manager ok?" I kept quiet.As I had used up more than 50 mins, someone knock on the door and she hurried me to dress up and ecort me to the secret door.

Went back down to the rest area, saw the manager. She came over asking me how was the girl. I complained to her that it was bad, and will not return again. She told me, please return and she will make it up to me with a nice girl. "I told her don't have to wait for my return, let do it now!" I negotiated the price down to 3000 for my second round. Apparantly she was quite surprise that I wanted a second round, because she keep on saying that she have to get me a strong girl!

The second round I my girl was #18 not too bad, although she said she is 20 but I reckon she is at least 25. Service is much better than #38. A lot more GFE feeling and look as if she enjoyed the session too! Very wet, either because she came many times or she is very very wet. the whole tower on the bed I can see one big wet spot after the whole thing is over. Not too sure whether she is just joking or trying to make me happy, she said that she like to make love with me and tell me that she is off on Monday, took my hotel detail and said that she will call me to on her off day (TODAY!) I ask her what is the cost, she said "up to you; but don;t worry, it will not be like this sauna, you know.... they have to make money." Ok let see about that tonight. I will make my report. after that.

Overall this Sauna is not the best I had comparing to Macau, Philippines, Singapore, HongKong, Japan and Shanghai. But I guess different countries have different standards of services. 1 to 10, 10 as the best I give it a 6.

[Ace Gallant]

where is west gate? 1000nt for a girl is really not a bad deal in taiwan, you wont find anything cheaper unless its a rotten old hag or a freeby. beware of ****d girls you could end up in a lot of trouble. i've heard of guys being blackmailed after having sex with ****d girls, by that i dont mean peadophiles but guys that just didnt know the score. these girls put on some sexy clothes and makeup and its difficult to tell their age seeing that most women here look like girls anyway(no tits or much body to speak of) always ask to see an id if it looks dodgy. just my 5 cents worth.

good work darkman.

west gate is 西门町。 sorry i don't know the traditional chinese writting. there is a mrt station there. it is one station after taipei station.

what is the legal age for taiwan? unfortunately or fortunately? the two girls said they are 17. in philippines 16 is legal age. but in china 18 is legal age. but you are right, sd, i agree it is better to be safe than sorry, i had that in mind too! that is why 1) i never gave them my real name, 2) i ask for a change in hotel room on saturday. 3) alway throw away those rubbers or tissues paper you used to clean up your sperm! and do it yourself! do not let them have a chance to keep them, because it can be used as a evidance as you had sex with them.

as i said, humping a young girl is never that fun, 1) a lot of work on your side! 2) all this trouble of changing rooms and safety measures you have to put up with. 3) you have to use extra time for bringing them to dinners, etc. (not really necessary i think).

so looks like a got a good deal didn't i? may be some of you fellow like to check out that place to get a more fair evaluation of west gate?

just curious, what is the average price for st and lt in taipei? i called up two mama san (numbers which given to me by my friends) one quoted 4500 for st, 8,000 for lt and the other quoted 3000 for st and 5000 for lt. and for those two girls i got from west gate; 1000nt for st?

dk

[Lovelyonetwo]

It is illegal in Taiwan to sleep with children under tha age of 18. It is abhorent that you can even post such an article Darkman. It is my hope that you are caught by the police.