Taipei

**Amazake** · 06-01-21 06:40

Originally Posted by WindAngel [View Original Post]

You are right, there are lone wolves. Some with the language skill can do it after their contract term and I know a few but it is a dangerous profession without protection.

As always, thank you very much for this and your valuable information over the years. Many prayers for those infected and who have died. Hopefully, the influx of vaccines will stabilize the country and the island will be back to full-swing and happy. Amen.

**WindAngel** · 05-31-21 08:19

These are the review example you can find to find good providers.

Originally Posted by Amazake [View Original Post]

. But, I would imagine that there are some "lone wolves" who found their way to Taiwan.

I think these are short term visitor and are dried out now due to Covid. The ones that can still come in now are all controlled by organized crime and stay long term. These also more motivated and provide better service than those lone wolves. If they don't perform well, the girls are downgraded to less desirable areas.

**WindAngel** · 05-31-21 02:50

Originally Posted by Amazake [View Original Post]

Once again, WindAngel, thank you for your insight. Your unselfish sharing of accurate information is extremely beneficial to myself and to this forum. But, I would imagine that there are some "lone wolves" who found their way to Taiwan, not working out of an organized brothel, that use a quick-stay hotel as needed per trick and the local Taiwanese workers in pseudo red light areas that are independent contractors -- I can only assume..

You are right, there are lone wolves. Some with the language skill can do it after their contract term and I know a few but it is a dangerous profession without protection.

**Amazake** · 05-31-21 02:27

Originally Posted by WindAngel [View Original Post]

Without going into too much detail, basically some paid a lot of money in the form of debt to be in this country so they are working for free for a few months to pay off debt. Their pay is withheld for control and they are sold or transferred like meat between crime organizations. The girls know why they are here, it is not like the news report telling people they are lied to to be in Taiwan for other jobs. My discomfort comes from that I know they may not get the money I paid them. Some organization force the girl to work when the girl already has injuries from too much sex so that was also bad. I think any reasonable monger is not going to fuck a girl knowing the girl is hurt. Most popular girls will have more than 10 customers a day and you have to try to book them early when they start taking reservation in the morning.

Once again, WindAngel, thank you for your insight. Your unselfish sharing of accurate information is extremely beneficial to myself and to this forum. But, I would imagine that there are some "lone wolves" who found their way to Taiwan, not working out of an organized brothel, that use a quick-stay hotel as needed per trick and the local Taiwanese workers in pseudo red light areas that are independent contractors -- I can only assume.

But, again, thank you, because I erroneously thought that it worked more like a massage house where the boss only shared a portion of each girl's customer fee.

Stay safe and hopefully everything will come back to more normality as the vaccines start to trickle into the country. Thank you.

**WindAngel** · 05-30-21 07:38

Originally Posted by Amazake [View Original Post]

With respect to the human trafficking, since I do engage with these girls, understanding their plight would be very helpful, so that I might be able to treat them with even more compassion than I try to already afford them. (we are all in this together, and we should be as kind and smooth to each other as possible. We need them and they need us. We are not at odds with each other).

Just a few words, or even more if I am not imposing on you too much. Thank you.

Without going into too much detail, basically some paid a lot of money in the form of debt to be in this country so they are working for free for a few months to pay off debt. Their pay is withheld for control and they are sold or transferred like meat between crime organizations. The girls know why they are here, it is not like the news report telling people they are lied to to be in Taiwan for other jobs. My discomfort comes from that I know they may not get the money I paid them. Some organization force the girl to work when the girl already has injuries from too much sex so that was also bad. I think any reasonable monger is not going to fuck a girl knowing the girl is hurt. Most popular girls will have more than 10 customers a day and you have to try to book them early when they start taking reservation in the morning.

**Amazake** · 05-29-21 23:40

Originally Posted by WindAngel [View Original Post]

It works the same way like other online escorts. Many uses phone for contact so you may need some conversational Chinese to make appointment. Try to read the blogs and it will lead you to gold mine.

I have been a regular to that building or pass by daily, haha. In fact, most of them are illegal. I ran into a human trafficking operation by accident and I have lost appetite after learning what the girls have to go thru to be here. The government does not know by outlawing a problem is creating an even worse problem.

With respect to the human trafficking, since I do engage with these girls, understanding their plight would be very helpful, so that I might be able to treat them with even more compassion than I try to already afford them. (we are all in this together, and we should be as kind and smooth to each other as possible. We need them and they need us. We are not at odds with each other).

Just a few words, or even more if I am not imposing on you too much. Thank you.

**WindAngel** · 05-29-21 17:14

Originally Posted by Piki0987 [View Original Post]

Sorry, I'm a newbie.

How exactly does JKF work? I started following them on Insta a while ago just because I liked the pics, but now I've seen the name pop here a few times so I'm wondering. Can you actually book these girls? And if so, how does it work?

(I mean after this all blows over, not now, obviously).

It works the same way like other online escorts. Many uses phone for contact so you may need some conversational Chinese to make appointment. Try to read the blogs and it will lead you to gold mine.

Originally Posted by Exile [View Original Post]

a Vietnamese woman who appears to have been here illegally was found killed in her Linsen apartment that she used for a 'massage studio'

I have been a regular to that building or pass by daily, haha. In fact, most of them are illegal. I ran into a human trafficking operation by accident and I have lost appetite after learning what the girls have to go thru to be here. The government does not know by outlawing a problem is creating an even worse problem.

**Piki0987** · 05-28-21 10:24

Sorry, I'm a newbie.

How exactly does JKF work? I started following them on Insta a while ago just because I liked the pics, but now I've seen the name pop here a few times so I'm wondering. Can you actually book these girls? And if so, how does it work?

(I mean after this all blows over, not now, obviously).

**Amazake** · 05-25-21 16:48

Originally Posted by Optional [View Original Post]

I know this has impacted Wanhua significantly, but what about the regular monging places in Linsen area or Ximen? Such as the massage places?

"Celibacy is your best policy. ".

Never thought such blasphemous words would ever come from my mouth, but it is entirely prudent to lay low for a month. I am sure that some action could be gotten in one of the centers but it is just not worth the risk. The country and citizens are working so earnestly to get the numbers down. Most of the food street vendors closed shop. Even hospitals are not seeing anyone but the more desperate cases. Even going to buy an apple, I have to leave my name, phone number, et cetera. People are so worried, even though the death rate is extremely low.

I don't want to face the scrutiny of locals as I do my traveling and searching. Like I say, I am sure it can be found. But, as a foreigner, I already stand out like a sore thumb, and probably added cameras and I don't want to be in a position to have to face questioning by authorities. And, aside from the critical social aspect, there is a real risk of infection, getting really close to a female who is seeing other fearless mongers who are seeing other fearless providers. Not the best company to keep during these days.

I had a lot of fun here for a long time and I was treated really well wherever I went by the establishments and the police officers and they never made me feel like I was a criminal being in "the zones. " So, I will return the courtesy and when things improve, break out and make up for lost time.

Trust me, I don't like it, and I am even tempted in my thoughts to take a chance in a clean city, but there is always the traveling. Started doing some exercise, sweating it out, hot and cold showers, and taking a long deserved rest.

**Analyzer123** · 05-25-21 07:06

Originally Posted by Optional [View Original Post]

I know this has impacted Wanhua significantly, but what about the regular monging places in Linsen area or Ximen? Such as the massage places?

AFAIK, any walk in place should be closed. Only girls doing it in private homes may be open. But I'the avoid for some time.

**Optional** · 05-24-21 12:06

Originally Posted by Amazake [View Original Post]

Kick back and learn to meditate, because normalcy for mongers is not just around the corner. The fear factor is everywhere. And even if places open, everybody will be so paranoid, increased police presence in red light districts. Forever Wanhua is scarred and will carry this stigma.

I should count my blessings. I was around the area a few days before this all went down. The investigation would be more torturous than the virus. Hopefully the numbers of infection will start to recede. Taiwan deserves great praise with respect to handling this virus both before and after this outbreak. Amazing perserverance and immediacy in remedying any outbreak. But, its no fun for anyone in the world. It is just that we in Taiwan were sheltered from the problem for quite a while.

I know this has impacted Wanhua significantly, but what about the regular monging places in Linsen area or Ximen? Such as the massage places?

**Amazake** · 05-22-21 05:34

Originally Posted by Analyzer123 [View Original Post]

Seriously it sucks. There are a few posts on JKF who are still advertising as open but I wouldn't bother. In the case you somehow get infected, they'll trace them back to you. Have to wait for more some time. I wish I had some regular local college girl.

Kick back and learn to meditate, because normalcy for mongers is not just around the corner. The fear factor is everywhere. And even if places open, everybody will be so paranoid, increased police presence in red light districts. Forever Wanhua is scarred and will carry this stigma.

I should count my blessings. I was around the area a few days before this all went down. The investigation would be more torturous than the virus. Hopefully the numbers of infection will start to recede. Taiwan deserves great praise with respect to handling this virus both before and after this outbreak. Amazing perserverance and immediacy in remedying any outbreak. But, its no fun for anyone in the world. It is just that we in Taiwan were sheltered from the problem for quite a while.

**Analyzer123** · 05-21-21 16:17

Originally Posted by Amazake [View Original Post]

Now that all the major whoring centers are all shut down, where does one go? I mean if you are not into the expensive VIP scene.

I guess eventually Wanhua will reopen. But, so much damned attention was brought to the place. All my favorite tea houses up front and center stage on all the news stations. Watching the news with non-mongers and hearing them spew out comments about how disgusting these men and women are that gather in such places. Of course, I chime in with my comments, "My God, I didn't even know that such degraded places even existed! (LOL).

"Is nothing sacred anymore?" (LOL).

Seriously it sucks. There are a few posts on JKF who are still advertising as open but I wouldn't bother. In the case you somehow get infected, they'll trace them back to you. Have to wait for more some time. I wish I had some regular local college girl.

**Amazake** · 05-21-21 02:05

Now that all the major whoring centers are all shut down, where does one go? I mean if you are not into the expensive VIP scene.

I guess eventually Wanhua will reopen. But, so much damned attention was brought to the place. All my favorite tea houses up front and center stage on all the news stations. Watching the news with non-mongers and hearing them spew out comments about how disgusting these men and women are that gather in such places. Of course, I chime in with my comments, "My God, I didn't even know that such degraded places even existed! (LOL).

"Is nothing sacred anymore?" (LOL).

**Analyzer123** · 05-14-21 10:04

Originally Posted by Amazake [View Original Post]

And, Ximen was a mongering destination in the past.

Taiwan in the summer is "a leg show. " Blame it on the short, short, short shorts they wear, a hair's breadth from their crotch.

Originally Posted by Amazake [View Original Post]

About 45 minutes on the Taiwan Rail.

Yeah but is there a bunch of places I could walk in and get what we need? I don't want to search too long and most of the posts seem to be from a while ago. Plus I'd prefer a sorta upscale place with a proper shower, not some roadside shacks.