Bangkok Hotels

[Robert Long]

Hua Hin might as well be an area just outside of BKK. I had heard rumors about it being a great golf area and that many expats lived there. I decide to pack my bags including the 2 legged one and spend a few days checking it out.

You can get there by Bus in 3 hours for 110 baht. This is the big bus with ac and acceptable seats. Booked a room close to the beach and dug in for 3 days. Walking street is nice and the weather was nice and cool at night. There are a few streets that run off of walking street and they are all bars and massage shops. Girls everywhere. Business is slow during June and July so they were all sitting around looking for anything with legs. I realized that I had taken a sandwich to a banquet by bringing my GF.

I did manage to ask one lady, while my GF was shopping, what the going rate was for ST. She replied that with it being slow 1500 baht for a couple of hours. The girls I saw were not bad, ranging from a 5 to an 8. Something that I did notice is that Hua Hin is an area that has a lot of older men with their spring chicken hand in hand. Not like Pattaya or Phuket there were no loud groups of guys partying and drunk. Not a party place as far as I could tell.

It appears that Hua Hin is a destination for couples from BKK to get out of the madness for a few days. An old guy like me with their younger Thai lady in tow.

RL.

[Breadman]

I've been working 6-7 days a week for the last two years trying to get my business up and running and keeping up with my instalments toward my house. Now I decided to take a week off and do some mongering (which I can afford thanks to the tax returns), and the hotels I've reserved I've chosen them for their proximity and their prices (all within 25-30 AUD / night off each other) and as such posted my query for suggestions.

My suggestion is this, find a hotel within walking distance of Nana for the first few days. That area has more going on and it will let you get your feet wet for the first part of your trip. I like the Nana hotel for its location but the Majestic suites works just as well. The Phachara suites or the Landmark hotel are nicer hotels if you don't want to slum it at the Nana. All are girl friendly. Hotels won't be sold out (except for the Nana on the weekend) so you can move if you don't care for the location.

[Member #4698]

The very fact that an aggregator site like Agoda or Booking allow you to cancel for free, means they are OK with it and so are the participating hotels. Some may charge a price differential for this flexibility, while some others maintain the same prices. I find absolutely nothing wrong with booking and cancelling rooms as many times as I feel necessary before my trip, with the sole aim of getting the best price for the room I want in the hotel of my choice.

I have an upcoming trip in August that will span 3 countries where I will be staying at 4 different hotels. I have already chopped and changed my hotels and rooms 3 times. Is this malpractice? Hell no! It is common sense. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in Utopia.

To add to my post one of the filters I use is the free cancellation policy. It's just as important as A / see and 24 hour security. I think you pay about 10% more but worth it.

I agree with you guys; no prepay / free cancellation is a useful feature that I look for when I am in the process of booking hotels for an upcoming trip. All the major reservation sites offer this type of booking reservation including the hotel sites themselves. Actually there are 3 types of reservations starting from the usually most expensive: 1. No prepay / free cancellation up to a few days before arrival, 2. No prepay / penalty cancellation, and 3. Full prepay / penalty cancellation.

Cancelling a no prepay / free cancellation reservation is real easy to do on Agoda and Expedia and the hotel reservation sites themselves. It is common practice and the hotel booking sites advertise this benefit as a way to attract customers. It is all fair game. The reservation sites have no problem raising rates when demand is high so don't feel sorry for these suits when a lower rate is offered. I will always cancel a free no penalty reservation if a better deal comes my way.

But occasionally I will spot a discount rate attached to a prepay / no cancellation booking that is so low (around 20% less than the no prepay / free cancellation rate) that I can't resist the offer as long as I am 99.9% certain the rate is unbeatable and I will show up to fulfill the contract otherwise the risk is too high. To this end I keep a spreadsheet of lowest rates on all the hotels I have stayed at or have an interest in staying at in the future. That way I know when I see a really good deal regardless of whether it's a free cancellation or penalty no cancellation offer. I tend to book way in advance. For example, I have already booked most of my April / May 2019 trip and I haven't even begun my Sept / October 2018 trip yet. What can I say? I saw a couple great deals, mostly free cancellation type deals, but also a couple of really attractive (price-wise) no cancellation deals too. I can't help it. I am an addict. 555!

One more thing: I was originally booked for a March/April 2018 trip. Then in January 2018 my Dad suffered a traumatic brain injury (subdural hematoma) and had to undergo a life saving brain operation. Fortunately he full recovered in record time, but it was touch and go for a while and I cancelled my entire trip in order to look after him. There was no problem canceling all the no prepay/no penalty cancellation reservations and with a copy of a letter from the surgeon I was fully reimbursed for all my cancelled prepay-ed and cancelled no prepay / no cancellation reservations including my United Airlines reservation. So, all's well that ends well and I am really looking forward to my next trip.

[AkkMad33]

OK. So now I understand the main issue / area that you've been basing your arguments on.

My user I'd is a joke that my high school classmates commonly used to tease a Muslim mate of mine, which I then continued to use as my character name in a popular MMORPG game up until a few years ago, and when I was creating an account here. Well let's just say I had a nostalgic moment (33 at the end of it is my age BTW).

I am not Muslim (Arab), Nor I am Indian (which I believe are the "nationality and race you've been referring to). I was born a Christian (not my fault) and I hate the concept of religions. And that feeling of hate is strongest towards the perceived religion (for obvious reasons that I believe you and I will have in common).

Now. I do apologize because I wasn't spending too much time reading your responses (and I admit I've had a typical "blonde" moment) and as such was perplexed as to why you assumed me to be an Arab or an Indian despite me making it clear that I was a white Aussie male. It actually was a mate of mine who slapped me on the head and pointed out the username.

So I hope that explains the confusion I was feeling, and my responses to your comments. I'll leave this argument here and once again do apologise for my role in the misunderstanding.

[NewImage]

Vigor, attack, hatred. Man you must be thin skinned.

Its not racism, arrogance, racial profiling, false assumptions when it is the truth. Currently in KL where many WG tell me that they will not go with certain types as their usual complaints are smelly, dirty, rough, sometimes don't pay, sometimes have 2/3 guys back in room waiting. Some taxi drivers of some races even [CodeWord123] and abuse girls too. Just ask them and they will tell you. Due to the large population of some countries people there learn to live a dog eat dog exsistence and bring those same attitudes when travelling. If I leave Beach Club tonite I will be inindated with rip off taxi drivers selling viagra, condoms and overpriced fares. The girls will tell you they are scared of speaking up for fear of reprisal. And they aren't Malay cause I've asked.

Maybe this is your first time travelling. I would assume so. So go to Thailand and other mongering destinations and see how some WG just snub some nationalities due to their previous history. Even your brothers admit that others have tarnished the reputation and thus it make it harder for them to monger.

Playing the racism card is so easy today, just like Western women playing the sexism card. Crying racism is just an easy way to try to deflect the discussion away from the real issue which is the attitudes of certain nationalities and treatment of girls. Racism means superiority, I do not think I am superior to you but I maintain that by my respectful dealings I and others of my nationality reap the benefits.

So good luck with your mongering, hopefully you will understand more when you monger and experience the path your brothers have laid for you. Maybe you can start to reverse the sterotypes the WG, travellers and people of other lands have about these nationalities.

You know its funny that everyone wants to come to America, Germany and Australia to live but no one wants to go to these other countries to live. Why is that?

As Jack said. " You want the truth. You can't handle the truth".

[Rob Jones]

The very fact that an aggregator site like Agoda or Booking allow you to cancel for free, means they are OK with it and so are the participating hotels. Some may charge a price differential for this flexibility, while some others maintain the same prices. I find absolutely nothing wrong with booking and cancelling rooms as many times as I feel necessary before my trip, with the sole aim of getting the best price for the room I want in the hotel of my choice.

I have an upcoming trip in August that will span 3 countries where I will be staying at 4 different hotels. I have already chopped and changed my hotels and rooms 3 times. Is this malpractice? Hell no! It is common sense. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in Utopia.

To add to my post one of the filters I use is the free cancellation policy. It's just as important as A / see and 24 hour security. I think you pay about 10% more but worth it.

[Blanquiceleste]

I too couldn't understand the attack? I'm booking now for my February visit and so far I have booked and cancelled at least once. I use Booking.com and it has a feature that allows me to do that so I am assuming that it is common practice. I was in Pattaya in May and leading up to that trip I booked and rebooked about 6 times due to different reasons ranging from location, reviews and price. Don't let it worry you and enjoy your time in the LOS.

Rob.

The very fact that an aggregator site like Agoda or Booking allow you to cancel for free, means they are OK with it and so are the participating hotels. Some may charge a price differential for this flexibility, while some others maintain the same prices. I find absolutely nothing wrong with booking and cancelling rooms as many times as I feel necessary before my trip, with the sole aim of getting the best price for the room I want in the hotel of my choice.

I have an upcoming trip in August that will span 3 countries where I will be staying at 4 different hotels. I have already chopped and changed my hotels and rooms 3 times. Is this malpractice? Hell no! It is common sense. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in Utopia.

[Rob Jones]

I'm quite surprised by the vigor and what I assume is hatred with which you've responded to my posts. I've been working 6-7 days a week for the last two years trying to get my business up and running and keeping up with my instalments toward my house. Now I decided to take a week off and do some mongering (which I can afford thanks to the tax returns), and the hotels I've reserved I've chosen them for their proximity and their prices (all within 25-30 AUD / night off each other) and as such posted my query for suggestions.

Now may be I haven't had enough time to do a thorough research or I'm not very good at this part so I couldn't make up my mind, but that doesn't give you the leave to tell me off and Making false assumptions. The first post led me to think I'm dealing with a condescending old man, but your second response. I believe I can add racism and arrogance to the list (and I honestly don't care if all the WG line up and bend over for free where ever you visit due to your awesomeness). I personally haven't done anything to ruin your experience with WG or hotels (not yet at least, and hopefully never will). So get off your high horse and keep your racial profiling (because that's exactly what it looks like) to yourself.

A 33 yo respectful white male.

I too couldn't understand the attack? I'm booking now for my February visit and so far I have booked and cancelled at least once. I use Booking.com and it has a feature that allows me to do that so I am assuming that it is common practice. I was in Pattaya in May and leading up to that trip I booked and rebooked about 6 times due to different reasons ranging from location, reviews and price. Don't let it worry you and enjoy your time in the LOS.

Rob.

[AkkMad33]

Not common practice in my country buddy. What we do is do our research, find a good deal and book. Its called respect or not screwing around with people and businesses. Some people treat businesses, hotels, restaurants (and even girls) as a master slave type relationship. Next time you are in BKK stand outside hotels and see how many lights are on at night. What you think hotels have waiting lists? You might think its smart, others would agree with me. Funny now I am in Kl and when I go to BC WG flock to me, yes flock, because they know I will treat them with respect whereas other "nationalities" they either say no to or charge ridiculous prices and give crappy performance. And all these "nationalilities" do is wreck the market and promote below avaerage performance.

You make your bed you lie in it.

I'm quite surprised by the vigor and what I assume is hatred with which you've responded to my posts. I've been working 6-7 days a week for the last two years trying to get my business up and running and keeping up with my instalments toward my house. Now I decided to take a week off and do some mongering (which I can afford thanks to the tax returns), and the hotels I've reserved I've chosen them for their proximity and their prices (all within 25-30 AUD / night off each other) and as such posted my query for suggestions.

Now may be I haven't had enough time to do a thorough research or I'm not very good at this part so I couldn't make up my mind, but that doesn't give you the leave to tell me off and Making false assumptions. The first post led me to think I'm dealing with a condescending old man, but your second response. I believe I can add racism and arrogance to the list (and I honestly don't care if all the WG line up and bend over for free where ever you visit due to your awesomeness). I personally haven't done anything to ruin your experience with WG or hotels (not yet at least, and hopefully never will). So get off your high horse and keep your racial profiling (because that's exactly what it looks like) to yourself.

A 33 yo respectful white male.

[NewImage]

My mother is a very proper person, and would never do anything even a little bit suspect. As such, there are many things happening for me, I would never mention to her. She would love to interfere in the business of others, according to her rules. LOL Like how I fucked two girls at same time. Ha ha. Even I am a person who would not want to indulge in some of the porn fuelled "sicko" fantasies of others. However I understand other guys have different standards to me, and are looking to dominate and denigrate. I prefer my girls to be enjoying themselves and having fun, as far as possible. Just my way. On odd occasion I had 3 girls concurrently. They were friends and appeared to have a good time. I never took 4 at once. LOL Once I book girls, I am reliable though, unless the girl fucks it up. It is not unusual for a girl to be waiting for some other customer, then eventually go with me, because he did not show up in reasonable time. Girl won't wait forever.

So posts about booking multiple rooms, and then cancelling are not intended for the consumption of guys like yourself. You really should ignore them rather worry too much. No one is really suffering, other than Hotels like this appear to be full when they might not be in reality. It is not illegal what they doing. It is optimising if you like. Making a comment is allowed but we recognise that it won't influence anyone.

Most Hotels know a certain percentage of rooms will be cancelled and filled again maybe at the last minute. It is part of the economic model. Go with the flow.

I have tentatively booked a room in a Hotel for days available, and waited for cancellations to make the in between days available. Since I did not want to keep changing Hotels, if the in between days did not become available, I would cancel the whole lot. No big deal. Hotel was fullish anyway. Hotels are rarely full very day though, due to customers coming and going.

Even when a plane is fully booked and I cannot be given a seat on that particular flight, I show up to the airport, and one hour before let them know I am here waiting for a "no show". Almost never failed to get on the flight in the end. So I know that full flights are not absolutely full, even if they tell me too full to allow me to be wait listed. There are always no shows that the airline was not informed about in advance. They know it. They expect it. Last time I managed to get on such a "full" flight at the last hour, there were still vacant seats. A lot of "no shows" I guess. So this has some parallels to the Hotel room booking situation, especially where customers can cancel for free up to 6 PM on first day of stay.

Suppose just diff POV. Where some may be happy to try their luck I prefer to know in advance exactly when where dates etc. Saves hassle.

- enough hassle with WG. My point is more in relation to similar " atittude " with WG. Now I am not so niave to think there is any integrity in this business but can see why WG have MO as they do when punters treat them this way. I suppose many will say be a realist, that's the world we monger in and that's true. Luckily many girls will treat those of differing nationalities different based on previous expereince.

[Member #4611]

I am assuming Pullman is in sukhumvit Soi 21.

Soi 23 has lots of massage joints. Are they any good? Who knows? Who knows what you are really looking for? I would rather go elsewhere. I have given more than you deserve with such a vague question.

Pullman G is near Chong Nonsi. Pullman Grand Sukhumvit is the one on Asoke with a rear entrance on Soi 23.

FK.

[Syzygies]

Not common practice in my country buddy. What we do is do our research, find a good deal and book. Its called respect or not screwing around with people and businesses.

My mother is a very proper person, and would never do anything even a little bit suspect. As such, there are many things happening for me, I would never mention to her. She would love to interfere in the business of others, according to her rules. LOL Like how I fucked two girls at same time. Ha ha. Even I am a person who would not want to indulge in some of the porn fuelled "sicko" fantasies of others. However I understand other guys have different standards to me, and are looking to dominate and denigrate. I prefer my girls to be enjoying themselves and having fun, as far as possible. Just my way. On odd occasion I had 3 girls concurrently. They were friends and appeared to have a good time. I never took 4 at once. LOL Once I book girls, I am reliable though, unless the girl fucks it up. It is not unusual for a girl to be waiting for some other customer, then eventually go with me, because he did not show up in reasonable time. Girl won't wait forever.

So posts about booking multiple rooms, and then cancelling are not intended for the consumption of guys like yourself. You really should ignore them rather worry too much. No one is really suffering, other than Hotels like this appear to be full when they might not be in reality. It is not illegal what they doing. It is optimising if you like. Making a comment is allowed but we recognise that it won't influence anyone.

Most Hotels know a certain percentage of rooms will be cancelled and filled again maybe at the last minute. It is part of the economic model. Go with the flow.

I have tentatively booked a room in a Hotel for days available, and waited for cancellations to make the in between days available. Since I did not want to keep changing Hotels, if the in between days did not become available, I would cancel the whole lot. No big deal. Hotel was fullish anyway. Hotels are rarely full very day though, due to customers coming and going.

Even when a plane is fully booked and I cannot be given a seat on that particular flight, I show up to the airport, and one hour before let them know I am here waiting for a "no show". Almost never failed to get on the flight in the end. So I know that full flights are not absolutely full, even if they tell me too full to allow me to be wait listed. There are always no shows that the airline was not informed about in advance. They know it. They expect it. Last time I managed to get on such a "full" flight at the last hour, there were still vacant seats. A lot of "no shows" I guess. So this has some parallels to the Hotel room booking situation, especially where customers can cancel for free up to 6 PM on first day of stay.

[Rob Jones]

Bet hotels love you. Just decide on one and go there. Smakes of arrogance.

Why don't you go to bar and book 4 ladies all for same night tooo. Advice- get real, show some respect.

I am an Aussie who travels a bit and I use the free cancellation option all the time. You pay extra for it on booking.com but if it was bad for their business I'm sure they wouldn't offer it. Do I book 4 hotels for the same time, no, but I will cancel and rebook elsewhere if a better offer hits the table or I read a bad review. Nothing to do with respect but what suits you at the time!

[NewImage]

Man,
I don't know what it was in my post that so offended you. But I'm fairly certain that it's common practice to book a hotel that's got good reviews when on a good deal. Then later decide if that's the offer you want to use. I can assure you that the hotels certainly won't be surprised / least bit bothered by this method.
I honestly don't understand what's wrong with having a few options. I'm 22 days away from landing in BKK and as such the hotels won't be hard pressed to find guests for the cancelled rooms (not that it's hard in BKK). And I surely won't apologise for doing what I believe is the smart thing to do (and the analogy you used. I won't even bother commenting on that).

Not common practice in my country buddy. What we do is do our research, find a good deal and book. Its called respect or not screwing around with people and businesses. Some people treat businesses, hotels, restaurants (and even girls) as a master slave type relationship. Next time you are in BKK stand outside hotels and see how many lights are on at night. What you think hotels have waiting lists? You might think its smart, others would agree with me. Funny now I am in Kl and when I go to BC WG flock to me, yes flock, because they know I will treat them with respect whereas other "nationalities" they either say no to or charge ridiculous prices and give crappy performance. And all these "nationalilities" do is wreck the market and promote below avaerage performance.

You make your bed you lie in it.

[Steve 9696]

Hey guys,

I've been reading the forum for a while now and would like to thank everyone for the information being assimilated here. .

I'm due to reach Bangkok This month for a holiday and still haven't been able to finalise my stay location. So far I've made reservations at the Park Plaza, Movenpick, the Courtyard and the Continental. From the information here in the forum I gather that all these hotels are GF and have had decent reviews, which have now led to some confusion on my end as to which hotel to confirm. So I would love if any of you senior mangers can help me in my decision making.

In terms of what I plan to do while in BKK, I have initiated contact with an escort agency (xclusivethai) and plan to have escorts come in for the first two days of my stay (for both fun and accompanying me and introducing me to the nightlife scene), after which I plan to go and have my own adventure.

Any and all advice will be appreciated.

AM.

The Continent is a class act and literally 2 blocks from Soi Cowboy. It is a gem.