Chiang Mai

[KaaoBoy]

Well, the price for a girl per hour was just 350 Baht, so I chose 2 as I couldn't decide between two really absolutely wonderful and sweet girls. The room fee was 250 per hour and the Mamasan and another girl also wanted to stay, so even that I agreed. As until now there was nothing really expensive. Then we chose the drinks. I didn't accept the very high priced ones for 2000-2500 baht, so we took a Whiskey for 1450 baht.

Thanks for the warning. Imo, this is the most valuable type of report that can be made. Your selfless contribution is greatly appreciated, even though it may not have been your proudest moment.

I only drink water when I'm looking for "entertainment". I want to make sure I keep a clear head, and enjoy my experience to the fullest. I can understand that's not everyones idea of fun, though.

Agree with Arthur, read his posts. I've benefitted from them myself. Hope you have a better experience soon.

[Run Mann]

Sorry to hear this; I had similar (but less expensive) experience in China years ago.

If you have paid with credit card you can ask the company to restore this.

In their contracts with webstores Credit Card companies all have a restriction that within 60 days the transaction can be cancelled.

It is than up to the company to agree with the customer about the exact payment.

The only negative point is they get your data (like real name and address).

Good luck

You did not read the report as he clearly wrote that he paid with a credit card, he even paid 4% more because he used his CC. He was ripped off but the fact that he paid with a CC and it was present when he paid will make this a difficult charge to get reverse in a dispute.

[Somewhere15]

damned, i could slap my face for how stupid i was yesterday, but at least i'd like to warn all of you to go to the "my love club" in chiang mai!

i was asked by a tuk-tuk driver if i'd like to have some fun with nice girls and he showed me a card with many beautiful girls on it."my love club" i read there and as i was anyway looking for some fun that night i agreed. he took me there. it's on the right side of the river, i don't know the street name anymore. arrived there, already many really stunning girls were standing there who welcomed me. the mamasan took me to a karaoke room and told me she will introduce some girls to me and i could choose with whom i'd like to spend my time in this room together.

well, the price for a girl per hour was just 350 baht, so i chose 2 as i couldn't decide between two really absolutely wonderful and sweet girls. the room fee was 250 per hour and the mamasan and another girl also wanted to stay, so even that i agreed. as until now there was nothing really expensive. then we chose the drinks. i didn't accept the very high priced ones for 2000-2500 baht, so we took a whiskey for 1450 baht.

then the "party" began. they played some dance videos on the tv screen and gave me one whiskey after the other, mixed with soda or with coke for the girls. questions about if i would like to give the girls some food for cheap price i answered with "yes". the whole time i only had this 1450 baht for the whiskey in my head, which was the only expensive things on first glance. so i had 4 girls with me, the two i chose left and right of me, hugging, touching here and there, plus the two others who also sat on my knees, rubbing their asses on me and making me hot. sometimes we danced, other times we sat on the sofa. it was fun, ok, but not what i really wanted. i wanted more so after one hour i asked the one girl who i liked the most, if she would come with me; answer was "no".1st disappointment. i asked the other one and the mamasan had to help me with translation, she said "lady think". by that time i realized that was all just a big theater, none of these girls would ever come with me. as the prettiest there they could afford just to sit, dance and play a bit but that was all a guest could await by them. i wanted to pay. the mamasan and her "helper" went out, and didn't come back for a long time. i excused myself with the words "i'll go to toilet", but when i went out they already catched me and wanted me to go back to the room. i said i need to [CodeWord134] and when i came back they at least came with the bill. i asked again the girls if they would come with me, the one asked for 10. 000 baht and i was laughing, the other one was still "thinking". now i really just wanted to pay and the mamasan showed me the bill, which really shocked me!

more than 19. 000 baht to pay! the so-thought expensive whiskey was in fact the cheapest thing on that bill. of course all was already doubled for the 2nd hour, the ladies, the room rent, even the "karaoke fee" which they didn't mention before. but these 250 baht were not really the problem anymore. there were 57 times billed for the waiter who came inside to fill up our drinks! only that point on the bill was more than 4000 baht. i said i won't accept this, they should at least halve this point, then i pay. but they didn't even discuss about that point. i was pissed off, i felt cheated, i just wanted to go and i agreed to pay. as i paid with credit card they even demanded an extra fee of 4. even that i agreed just to come out of this rip-off bar.

as if this wasn't enough, the mamasan asked for a "tip for guy who bring drink" as well as each of the "ladies" asked for a tip, too. i said no, i paid already too much. the mamasan repeated my words with a sneering tongue-in-cheek. that was more than enough! i went out, mad and disappointed. the mamasan said she would give me another lady to accompany me. for 4000 baht. i got angry and just ran out. and found my tuk-tuk driver waiting for me! the ride from my hotel to there was just 40 baht and the way back, too. even it was a way through half of the city. but of course he will have his provision on that dirty business.

i went home angry and disappointed, had nothing really done with these girls and was at least 500 euro worse off.

if i think about what i could have done with all this money. i was such a stupid fool. i should have stopped already when i had to chose the drinks, at latest when they wanted more and more, like one time the mamasan even asked me if there could come 1-2 more girls inside the room and i said "no". but that whole thing went out of control and so in the end i can only say i'm enriched by a bad experience which does not throw any bad light on chiang mai on itself as i love the city and i also had my good experiences there, but be aware of this kind of club!

sorry to hear this; i had similar (but less expensive) experience in china years ago.

if you have paid with credit card you can ask the company to restore this.

in their contracts with webstores credit card companies all have a restriction that within 60 days the transaction can be cancelled.

it is than up to the company to agree with the customer about the exact payment.

the only negative point is they get your data (like real name and address).

good luck

[Arthur Tick]

damned, i could slap my face for how stupid i was yesterday, but at least i'd like to warn all of you to go to the "my love club" in chiang mai!

i was asked by a tuk-tuk driver if i'd like to have some fun with nice girls and he showed me a card with many beautiful girls on it."my love club" i read there and as i was anyway looking for some fun that night i agreed. he took me there. it's on the right side of the river, i don't know the street name anymore. arrived there, already many really stunning girls were standing there who welcomed me. the mamasan took me to a karaoke room and told me she will introduce some girls to me and i could choose with whom i'd like to spend my time in this room together.

well, the price for a girl per hour was just 350 baht, so i chose 2 as i couldn't decide between two really absolutely wonderful and sweet girls. the room fee was 250 per hour and the mamasan and another girl also wanted to stay, so even that i agreed. as until now there was nothing really expensive. then we chose the drinks. i didn't accept the very high priced ones for 2000-2500 baht, so we took a whiskey for 1450 baht.

then the "party" began. they played some dance videos on the tv screen and gave me one whiskey after the other, mixed with soda or with coke for the girls. questions about if i would like to give the girls some food for cheap price i answered with "yes". the whole time i only had this 1450 baht for the whiskey in my head, which was the only expensive things on first glance. so i had 4 girls with me, the two i chose left and right of me, hugging, touching here and there, plus the two others who also sat on my knees, rubbing their asses on me and making me hot. sometimes we danced, other times we sat on the sofa. it was fun, ok, but not what i really wanted. i wanted more so after one hour i asked the one girl who i liked the most, if she would come with me; answer was "no".1st disappointment. i asked the other one and the mamasan had to help me with translation, she said "lady think". by that time i realized that was all just a big theater, none of these girls would ever come with me. as the prettiest there they could afford just to sit, dance and play a bit but that was all a guest could await by them. i wanted to pay. the mamasan and her "helper" went out, and didn't come back for a long time. i excused myself with the words "i'll go to toilet", but when i went out they already catched me and wanted me to go back to the room. i said i need to [CodeWord134] and when i came back they at least came with the bill. i asked again the girls if they would come with me, the one asked for 10. 000 baht and i was laughing, the other one was still "thinking". now i really just wanted to pay and the mamasan showed me the bill, which really shocked me!

more than 19. 000 baht to pay! the so-thought expensive whiskey was in fact the cheapest thing on that bill. of course all was already doubled for the 2nd hour, the ladies, the room rent, even the "karaoke fee" which they didn't mention before. but these 250 baht were not really the problem anymore. there were 57 times billed for the waiter who came inside to fill up our drinks! only that point on the bill was more than 4000 baht. i said i won't accept this, they should at least halve this point, then i pay. but they didn't even discuss about that point. i was pissed off, i felt cheated, i just wanted to go and i agreed to pay. as i paid with credit card they even demanded an extra fee of 4. even that i agreed just to come out of this rip-off bar.

as if this wasn't enough, the mamasan asked for a "tip for guy who bring drink" as well as each of the "ladies" asked for a tip, too. i said no, i paid already too much. the mamasan repeated my words with a sneering tongue-in-cheek. that was more than enough! i went out, mad and disappointed. the mamasan said she would give me another lady to accompany me. for 4000 baht. i got angry and just ran out. and found my tuk-tuk driver waiting for me! the ride from my hotel to there was just 40 baht and the way back, too. even it was a way through half of the city. but of course he will have his provision on that dirty business.

i went home angry and disappointed, had nothing really done with these girls and was at least 500 euro worse off.

if i think about what i could have done with all this money. i was such a stupid fool. i should have stopped already when i had to chose the drinks, at latest when they wanted more and more, like one time the mamasan even asked me if there could come 1-2 more girls inside the room and i said "no". but that whole thing went out of control and so in the end i can only say i'm enriched by a bad experience which does not throw any bad light on chiang mai on itself as i love the city and i also had my good experiences there, but be aware of this kind of club!

so sorry to hear about your rip off. this is something you can only write off to experience, but nevertheless, still leaves a long lasting sour taste in the mouth.

this seems to be the general state of affairs in chiang mai now and i have no doubts considering that the tuk tuk driver recommended this outfit to you, that he made well out of it. they are basically a bunch of thugs who will use fear and intimidating to extract a lot of money from those they consider as vulnerable.

my best advice is to avoid any bars or karaoke that the name ends in club, and also avoid vip. i was ripped off at the pretty club not so long ago. the object of these places is to do as little as possible, in the shortest possible time, for as much as possible. any naive first timers to these places can be taken to the cleaners and extorted.

the good old days of available, decent, pleasant shagable girls giving a value for money service have long gone.

please read all my reports on this thread. i speak from a wealth of experience and think i have covered every details on the adult entertainment scenes of chiang mai.

[ZeroHero]

damned, i could slap my face for how stupid i was yesterday, but at least i'd like to warn all of you to go to the "my love club" in chiang mai!

i was asked by a tuk-tuk driver if i'd like to have some fun with nice girls and he showed me a card with many beautiful girls on it."my love club" i read there and as i was anyway looking for some fun that night i agreed. he took me there. it's on the right side of the river, i don't know the street name anymore. arrived there, already many really stunning girls were standing there who welcomed me. the mamasan took me to a karaoke room and told me she will introduce some girls to me and i could choose with whom i'd like to spend my time in this room together.

well, the price for a girl per hour was just 350 baht, so i chose 2 as i couldn't decide between two really absolutely wonderful and sweet girls. the room fee was 250 per hour and the mamasan and another girl also wanted to stay, so even that i agreed. as until now there was nothing really expensive. then we chose the drinks. i didn't accept the very high priced ones for 2000-2500 baht, so we took a whiskey for 1450 baht.

then the "party" began. they played some dance videos on the tv screen and gave me one whiskey after the other, mixed with soda or with coke for the girls. questions about if i would like to give the girls some food for cheap price i answered with "yes". the whole time i only had this 1450 baht for the whiskey in my head, which was the only expensive things on first glance. so i had 4 girls with me, the two i chose left and right of me, hugging, touching here and there, plus the two others who also sat on my knees, rubbing their asses on me and making me hot. sometimes we danced, other times we sat on the sofa. it was fun, ok, but not what i really wanted. i wanted more so after one hour i asked the one girl who i liked the most, if she would come with me; answer was "no".1st disappointment. i asked the other one and the mamasan had to help me with translation, she said "lady think". by that time i realized that was all just a big theater, none of these girls would ever come with me. as the prettiest there they could afford just to sit, dance and play a bit but that was all a guest could await by them. i wanted to pay. the mamasan and her "helper" went out, and didn't come back for a long time. i excused myself with the words "i'll go to toilet", but when i went out they already catched me and wanted me to go back to the room. i said i need to [CodeWord134] and when i came back they at least came with the bill. i asked again the girls if they would come with me, the one asked for 10. 000 baht and i was laughing, the other one was still "thinking". now i really just wanted to pay and the mamasan showed me the bill, which really shocked me!

more than 19. 000 baht to pay! the so-thought expensive whiskey was in fact the cheapest thing on that bill. of course all was already doubled for the 2nd hour, the ladies, the room rent, even the "karaoke fee" which they didn't mention before. but these 250 baht were not really the problem anymore. there were 57 times billed for the waiter who came inside to fill up our drinks! only that point on the bill was more than 4000 baht. i said i won't accept this, they should at least halve this point, then i pay. but they didn't even discuss about that point. i was pissed off, i felt cheated, i just wanted to go and i agreed to pay. as i paid with credit card they even demanded an extra fee of 4%. even that i agreed just to come out of this rip-off bar.

as if this wasn't enough, the mamasan asked for a "tip for guy who bring drink" as well as each of the "ladies" asked for a tip, too. i said no, i paid already too much. the mamasan repeated my words with a sneering tongue-in-cheek. that was more than enough! i went out, mad and disappointed. the mamasan said she would give me another lady to accompany me. for 4000 baht. i got angry and just ran out. and found my tuk-tuk driver waiting for me! the ride from my hotel to there was just 40 baht and the way back, too. even it was a way through half of the city. but of course he will have his provision on that dirty business.

i went home angry and disappointed, had nothing really done with these girls and was at least 500 euro worse off.

if i think about what i could have done with all this money. i was such a stupid fool. i should have stopped already when i had to chose the drinks, at latest when they wanted more and more, like one time the mamasan even asked me if there could come 1-2 more girls inside the room and i said "no". but that whole thing went out of control and so in the end i can only say i'm enriched by a bad experience which does not throw any bad light on chiang mai on itself as i love the city and i also had my good experiences there, but be aware of this kind of club!

[FozBear]

Good advice, FozBear. I like using Tripadvisor myself. When places I frequent find out I learned about them on Tripadvisor, they seem to get a big kick out of it as well.

If I'm reading the date on Joe's post correctly, however, I think he was asking for advice in June of 2002. Maybe he can give us a report on what he did. Might be entertaining to hear what the good old days used to be like.

Holy Shit Batman, it really shows I'm a newbie commenting on 10 year old posts. I'm sure ill get better at it soon LOL

[Donnylad]

Apologies for the delay in this report. The events occurred over a few days around valentine's day. I was staying in a small french-run guest house called Chiang Mai Nest in Moonmuang Road Soi 2. It was near the place I originally booked but they couldn't accommodate me for some reason and arranged it for me. I ensured it was gf first. The location was great. Right on the edge of the old city and right by Loi Kroh Road. I didn't plan this and it was just by chance. The guest house rooms were dated and the main receptionist wasn't the friendliest in my experience although the French manager was a great guy.

I hit Loi Kroh road in the early evening after noticing that there were no FL girls along Moonmuang Road at that time, as reported here before and advised by the manager. I went to Diana's Bar as there were quite a few ladies there. Drinks were the same price as all the bars in the area (50-80 baht for a beer). Turned out that there was a bar fine of about 400 baht which put me off as I don't do bar fines for various reasons. This turned out to be the standard at all the bars in that area. After dinner I used tuktuks to scout the area for FL's. There was a ladyboy area to the right if facing onto Moonmuang from Soi 2, but turning left and much further along (past the city gate in that area) , there are usually a few FL's. Spoke to a younger gal who looked in her 20's but turned her down because I saw an interesting lady lurking in the shadows and sitting on her parked motorbike. We agreed on 2 hrs for 1000 baht and she agreed to everything I wanted inc photos. In the room she was very chatty and said she was 43 but didn't look a day over 35. Said she had kids, was single and came over every night from Lamphun. She was medium build and her tits weren't as big as had appeared apparent with her clothes on. Agreed to forego shaving her as her pussy was only lightly haired. She was very attentive during the shower and enjoyed DATY and allowed DFK. Her oral technique was decent and she was accommodating. Sex was ok but she would not allow anal when requested. Gave her a smal tip I believe.

Decided to go out again after she left. Spoke to a largish. 20's girl sitting on a bench by the moat but she seemed a bit too agressive. Regrettably the younger one from earlier was nowhere to be seen. The tuktuk driver seemed very interested in arranging a girl and we spoke to an even bigger girl who was stood in the area that I previously said was the domain of the ladyboys and was near a working person who did look like a ladyboy. She had agreed to everything for 500 but I declined due to her size in favour of taking another scout around. I would like to say that the tuktuk tactic that worked for me was not arranging a price before and offering between 50-100 baht depending on the extent of the trip. I returned for the larger lady and they tuktuk driver strangely insisted I pay her 600 even though I had previously agreed 500 and I agreed with him just to keep him quiet. The girl re-confirmed she agreed to all the services required but the price wasn't mentioned again. In the room, she had a proportioned figure and was surprisingly shaven. She refused to allow her face on any photos. The service was average from what I remember and sex was awkward due to both our sizes. It turned out that she was happy to take 500 but that the taxi driver had wanted her to pay him 100. This incensed me and we agreed that she would tell the driver I only paid her 500 even though I did give her 600. I never received and comeback on this from the driver. I called it a night.

Next day I resumed my mongering activities in the afternoon / evening. I decided to pop into this bar just near the corner of the exit of soi 2 on Moonmuang which had a few friendly looking ladies in it. Got chatting to the oldest who was in her 40s at least. Played some pool with a younger one and had a good laugh with them. I established that there was bar fines there when there were a few girls. I was going to ask the older lady if she was interested in action but she disappeared before I could. I trawled Loi Kroh Road looking for any FL bars but there were none. Ended up on Moonmuang in the evening (action didn't start there till at least 9pm) and this time there were not as many ladies. Spoke to younger lady from the night before but couldn't agree a deal. I think she wanted 1500. I saw the larger aggressive girl again who was with 2 others this time. One was a cute, short, young girl whose english wasn't great and through translation was informed she wanted 3000! The other one who was also 20s and medium build agreeed to do the deed for between 500-1k. Back at the room she had a decent body with some incomplete tattooing on her back. Refused to shave though. Everything was fine until oral on me which she refused to perform as agreed. Ended up with her leaving prematurely at a cut price. Neither of us were happy. Went out again but found no one suitable.

My last day was valentines day. I started in the early afternoon at the same bar as day before. Saw the same older lady again and this time I did proposition her but she refused. I met an english ex pat there who gave me a few tips, especially on better bar fine establishments on Loi Kroh Road. I checked these out to no avail and ended up on one of the bars on the Loi Kroh side of Moonmuang, on the corner. The english guy was there and there were a few nice girls but for one reason or another I couldn't strike a deal. Back on Moonmuang there was no sign of any new talent and I tried to have another session with the older lady from the 1st night but she appeared to decline. This surprised me as she had suggested when she left me that she was happy to see me again. I ended up back on Loi Kroh and resigned myself to paying a bar fine. Spoke to many hotties who didn't want to go with me (I'm convinced there was an issue over my race (Indian origin) or my size) or wanted too much. I ended up at a place called carnival bar. Chatted to a short, plumpish lady who turned out to be mid-30s with kids as usual. Ended up agreeing to the 500 baht fine and 1000 baht for 2 hrs for her. She spoke decent english and was naughty and cheeky. At the room, the body wasn't great with saggy, small tits and bit of a belly. Was either shaven or agreed to be shaven there and then. Can't remember. Can't remember if she allowed DFK or not but oral was covered and her technique in general was average. Sex was ok and anal was refused.

On one of the nights I succumbed to the offer of a tuktuk driver to take me to find ladies. I tried to insist I didn't want anywhere where there was a bar fine or a mamasan. Agreed to pay him 60 for the trip. Went quite a way and turned out to be fish bowl type establishment. Needless to say the prices were crazy and they wanted payment beforehand. I refused and the driver inisisted on going to other similar places and I told him just to take me back to Moonmuang. He was unhapy with the 60 at the end, suggesting that the other places he went to incurred a higher fare. This was the only tuktuk driver tha was unhappy. In summary, Chiang Mai wasn't the greatest mongering destination but there is enough action if you are willing to pay higher prices. Wonderful city for non mongering purposes however. Didn't get any digits for the girls and I promised not to post any photos so will keep my word on that.

[PogoStick]

In Chiang Rai I like the Wiang Inn.

I just stayed there. There is a karaoke bar in the basement with some very cute girls. 1500 baht to go to your room.

[TConor]

I have made inquiries with papa sans and staff at several Chiang Mai soapys and all have said, the rules are: no kissng, no anal, no bare back, including the BJs, and for each shot the customer has to pay the full price each time.

So either I`ve been doing something wrong, or they have had a complete change of policy?

I would be interested to know how much time you were given and how much you paid for this exclusive service of rear entry and for each shot?

He must not have asked for much.

[Arthur Tick]

Everything I asked, I got it? Anal? Multiple shots?

I have made inquiries with papa sans and staff at several Chiang Mai soapys and all have said, the rules are: no kissng, no anal, no bare back, including the BJs, and for each shot the customer has to pay the full price each time.

So either I`ve been doing something wrong, or they have had a complete change of policy?

I would be interested to know how much time you were given and how much you paid for this exclusive service of rear entry and for each shot?

[TConor]

Finally, I decided to visit this famous Sayuri.

I choose a 4 hands soapy massage for the total price of 3000.

The room, and specially the "waterroom" is quite small for 3 people.

Not as classy and big as the Cristin in Phuket, but the service was quite good!

I went with my car rented, so I eliminate the fee of the tuk-tuk.

One advice, go early, it was the afternoon, and my 2 new friends told me that in the evening, only older girls were working because they don't have a boy friend!

Rooms are quite kitch with this rose color.

Everything I asked, I got it.

Definitively a nice place.

Thanks for the advices from the other senior members.

The frenchman

Everything I asked, I got it? Anal? Multiple shots?

[Rhode1]

Finally, I decided to visit this famous Sayuri.

I choose a 4 hands soapy massage for the total price of 3000.

The room, and specially the "waterroom" is quite small for 3 people.

Not as classy and big as the Cristin in Phuket, but the service was quite good!

I went with my car rented, so I eliminate the fee of the tuk-tuk.

One advice, go early, it was the afternoon, and my 2 new friends told me that in the evening, only older girls were working because they don't have a boy friend!

Rooms are quite kitch with this rose color.

Everything I asked, I got it.

Definitively a nice place.

Thanks for the advices from the other senior members.

The frenchman

[KaaoBoy]

Can I suggest that you try tripadvisor. Com type chaing mai into the search engine and click on monthly rentals, you will find lots of nice appartments some with gyms and pools and very reasonably priced.

Enjoy chaing mai its a wonderful place.

Good advice, FozBear. I like using Tripadvisor myself. When places I frequent find out I learned about them on Tripadvisor, they seem to get a big kick out of it as well.

If I'm reading the date on Joe's post correctly, however, I think he was asking for advice in June of 2002. Maybe he can give us a report on what he did. Might be entertaining to hear what the good old days used to be like.

[FozBear]

Since this lonely area doesn't yet have anything going on, I figure I'll start it out with a question. Does anyone know anything about longer-term lodging options in Chiang Mai that are clean, air-conditioned, secure? (And, of course, girl-friendly, though I'm presuming most will be in this area.) I'm looking to make the area kind of a home base on my trip this fall, and will be looking to rent on a montly basis (at least two and possibly three months.) I'm not terribly worried about price, as the most expensive things I see are still ridiculously cheap; I'm more after the right kind of place, something I can basically make my home, and with decent facilities. A pool and gym would be a plus. A two-bedroom apartment would be ideal, or some kind of suite with kitchen facilities.

I've found some options at.

http://www.chiangmai-online.com,

But I really don't know anything about those options other than that. Anybody have any experience or contacts they can offer?

Can I suggest that you try tripadvisor. Com type chaing mai into the search engine and click on monthly rentals, you will find lots of nice appartments some with gyms and pools and very reasonably priced.

Enjoy chaing mai its a wonderful place.

[Ralph Kramden]

I think there are other venues other than Sayuri in Chiang Mai that offer soapy massage in which the providers are younger than 25. I recall reading about them in the forum. This thread is not that large so I think one can easily go back two or so years to find out what you want to find in a matter of minutes, not hours.