Chiang Mai

[Joe Looking]

I have had a few HJ's in the MP's, and one last night who was keen to go further, however had been talking about bar girl at CEC who has HIV and is continuing to work, and likes BB. Kind of put me off for the night, but I might go and see about taking her to room another night.

Can you share any more details that she may have given you? Although I take most things one sex worker tells me about another with a grain of salt there are some things better not left to chance.

[Luvpuss]

I have had a few HJ's in the MP's, and one last night who was keen to go further, however had been talking about bar girl at CEC who has HIV and is continuing to work, and likes BB. Kind of put me off for the night, but I might go and see about taking her to room another night.

1 in 2000 chance. Go for it!

[NicFrenchy]

Actually, it is Factual (assuming you're not asian). I also used to think I was average until I started to see a lot of thai guys on Camfrog fuck their girls. These guys have small penises. And to think that the Jappos and the Koreans have smaller ones. In here, we're Shaquille ONeal LOL

[Jlol4321]

Dude. Sorry for your expereince. Your post is actually funny.

I have had similar expereinces at the fish bowl places in CM.

Last time, I had a small amount of pre-cum in the bag, and the girl says,"your done".

Never again.

I have had good luck getting takeout from the MP's.

They seem to be afraid to do FS at the parlor, but are tigers in the sack at your room.

I have had a few HJ's in the MP's, and one last night who was keen to go further, however had been talking about bar girl at CEC who has HIV and is continuing to work, and likes BB. Kind of put me off for the night, but I might go and see about taking her to room another night.

[Luvpuss]

I went to Pandora on a wet Friday evening, about 8:30. Good selection of girls, although mostly bored looking. Selected #20 (called No). Probably should have guessed something from that!

Papasan said up front one pop only. Went up and started well, sitting on lap while bath running. Soapie was OK. Then down to business. She started complaining about my size (flattering but not necessarily factual) had some DATY, was OK, then after maybe 10 minutes she had had enough of that, tried FK. Wasn't particularly into that, she then hurried to cap, while saying she was really tired. Started with some doggie and on to CG. Continued to complain about tiredness, and too big. After about 30 minutes I just finished off.

All in all would not recommend #20

Dude. Sorry for your expereince. Your post is actually funny.

I have had similar expereinces at the fish bowl places in CM.

Last time, I had a small amount of pre-cum in the bag, and the girl says,"your done".

Never again.

I have had good luck getting takeout from the MP's.

They seem to be afraid to do FS at the parlor, but are tigers in the sack at your room.

[Jlol4321]

I went to Pandora on a wet Friday evening, about 8:30. Good selection of girls, although mostly bored looking. Selected #20 (called No). Probably should have guessed something from that!

Papasan said up front one pop only. Went up and started well, sitting on lap while bath running. Soapie was OK. Then down to business. She started complaining about my size (flattering but not necessarily factual) had some DATY, was OK, then after maybe 10 minutes she had had enough of that, tried FK. Wasn't particularly into that, she then hurried to cap, while saying she was really tired. Started with some doggie and on to CG. Continued to complain about tiredness, and too big. After about 30 minutes I just finished off.

All in all would not recommend #20

[Dan7373]

. If you pick the cute girl who has only gone with Thai men she may be used to laying on her back, closing her eyes and looking away. For many foreigners that is bad service, but in conversations with some Asian men I have found that when it comes to prostitutes they are mainly concerned with looks so pumping away on a pretty girl who won't make eye contact is okay.

My final tip is to assess the girl's reaction when she sees you. If she walks you up arm in arm things will probably go well, but if she gives the papasan a look of distress you should probably change.

Perhaps the eye-contact between you and the lady is a matter of culture and not her willingness to fuck with you. You need to remember that eye-contact often means different things in different cultures. I'd say that your western interpretation of the Thai lady closing her eyes during her sex with you is probably wrong.

I was once with an experienced Thai massage lady in her mid-30s. She was the best lay I've ever had in terms of how easy and pleasant she made it for me to fuck with her. She encouraged me to touch her body and masturbate her pussy. And she was anticipating my wants and desires so well that she was getting into sex-positions and spreading her legs to let me penetrate her, before I even knew that this was what I wanted to do with her. And of course, she was right every time that I did want to penetrate her, whenever she got into a sex-position for me.

My point is that one of her favorite sex-positions with me was the missionary position. After my foreplay with her that involved a lot of pussy masturbation for her, she would invite me to fuck, lie on her back, spread her legs wide open for me, and close her eyes. When she did this the first time with me, then I was a little surprised at how well my penetration went with her. I've always fumbled a lot with my cock between the legs of a lady, before I managed to penetrate her. But with this massage lady I went in right away, without any fumbling at all. And apparently it was her closing her eyes that did it for me. When she closed her eyes, then I didn't need to maintain my eye-contact with her. I was able to look at her pussy and see where I was going.

She made it better for me not only in terms of the penetration but also in terms of the fuck. With her eyes closed and no one watching me, I really let myself go and fucked her like a rubber doll balls-deep, hard-and-fast for as long as I could last, while knowing full well that she was a real sexy woman groaning and moaning in my arms. When the woman closes her eyes during her fuck with you, then you no longer have an audience in front of which to show off and possibly embarrass yourself. You get to fuck the pretty lady just the way you feel and like. Her closed eyes give you a sense of anonymity to some extent, which makes you more free to do that which is normally socially embarrassing to do, i. e. lose yourself in your fuck with her and just fuck her the way you like for as long as you like.

I'm sure my massage lady closed her eyes to make it better for me and not because she wasn't interested in me. Because everything else she did was to make it better for me. And because her closed eyes really did make it much better for me than I've experienced with any other lady, who has kept her eye wide open with me.

In Thai culture, people try to make it easy for each other to avoid embarrassment and to keep their face. And that's what this closing of eyes is all about. It's socially embarrassing for a guy to fuck, but not if the lady closes her eyes and doesn't watch him fuck. Because it's not socially embarrassing, when people don't see what you are doing. When an Asian lady closes her eyes during her fuck with a guy, then it's basically her way of letting him save his face in front of her by letting him do the socially embarrassing thing, when she isn't looking. It's her way of giving the guy some privacy to help him let go of his social inhibitions and fuck her just the way he likes. And it certainly has worked this way for me with my massage lady when she closed her eyes.

With my massage lady's eyes closed and her seeming to be somewhat unaware of what I was doing, I no longer felt any need to impress her or show off in front of her in any way. My situation with her wasn't so social anymore. I let go of all my inhibitions and just lost myself in my all-out fuck with her. This was the most uninhibited fuck I've ever had with any lady. And she made it possible for me by closing her eyes and pretending to be somewhat unaware of what I was doing with her.

When the pretty lady lies on her back, closes her eyes, and pretends to be your rubber sex-doll, then this really does make you feel free to fuck her like a rubber sex-doll, without any social inhibitions at all.

[Joe Looking]

I forgot to mention that the girl I picked both times at Ping Payom was number 17. To me she is absolutely gorgeous and her service was always top notch. I recommended her to another monger I met and his experience was not as good as mine. He told me that she would not do BBBJ for him and she was a bit mechanical, the exact opposite of my experience so YMMV with her as I'm pretty sure they don't swap the numbers. It can pad the price a bit, but you can often get better service at brothels by asking the papa (mama) san. Most papasans care more about getting you to come back than sticking you with the chick who has not had a customer all week. You can also ask questions like who has gone with a foreigner before so you have a pool to pick from next time. When I was in Malaysia the papasans would always try to push the Thai and Vietnamese girls on me and I did not want them because I had already been to and could easily go back to those countries. When I asked one papasan why I was always offered Thai / Vietnamese and had to ask for Malay / Indonesian, he told me it was because all of his Thai / Vietnamese girls had been with many foreigners and would probably give me the service I was used to whereas most of his Malay / Indonesian girls had only been with Malay / Chinese / Indian men. I only mention this because as mongers we sometimes find ourselves in establishments that cater to local men. When we go to these places we often pick the girl who is prettiest and give no regard to her usual customer. If you pick the cute girl who has only gone with Thai men she may be used to laying on her back, closing her eyes and looking away. For many foreigners that is bad service, but in conversations with some Asian men I have found that when it comes to prostitutes they are mainly concerned with looks so pumping away on a pretty girl who won't make eye contact is okay.

My final tip is to assess the girl's reaction when she sees you. If she walks you up arm in arm things will probably go well, but if she gives the papasan a look of distress you should probably change.

[Ralph Kramden]

I got decent service at Sayuri (and would return) by following these simple rules.

-Learn the way there and then go by bicycle or motorbike. There is another MP 5 minutes away if you want to compare. I did but found nothing to my liking.

-Show up early to get a fresh girl.

-Be well groomed and dress decently without obvious ketchup drool on your t-shirt and dust on your flip flops.

-Go directly to the counter with the girls number to get the local's price.

-Make it clear to the girl that she will receive a good tip for good service. The cheer person can tell her that in Thai language for you. It is their job. Be sure and arrange this after you pay, but give the cheer person a tip if the girl follows through.

-Upgrade to a bigger room instead of the dungeon that is included in the price. It is worth the cost.

-You can make a reservation for a girl you really like.

-Act like a gentleman.

-Be realistic, as Arthur quite clearly explained, the service provider is not there to fall in love with you for 90 minutes. It is a business.

[Luvpuss]

Sayuri is a joke rip off for Falang.

If you guys are looking for FS in Chiang Mai, go to the MP's and get take out to your hotel.

A lot of these girls are afraid to FS at their establishments.

Get them to your hotel. I have never had one say "No" to FS in private at my hotel. Most will do GFE.

[Arthur Tick]

Honestly, things like kissing and DATY come a bit closer to a GFE and in my experience that is not available at brothels / soappies that do not specifically cater to foreigners. For some things (kissing seems to be a big one) , no matter how much you offer the tip the girl will not do it because she a) does not actually like you be) has a boyfriend and only does that for him see) does not do that for customers period. It is nothing personal against you, most behave that way because for them it is a job and most have to go with as many customers as pick them. I gave a girl at a similar place in Malaysia an orgasm and after we finished she told me that she does not like to have orgasms because her pussy is very sensitive after and it makes the rest of her day suck because she may have to do several more guys. She also told me that she does not kiss, allow DATY or let men do other things to her that she may enjoy because for her it is a job.

If you loose your erection again you are better off asking for a BJ and just ask her to help you get more power. Offering her a massage or trying to get her arroused hoping she will be in the mood to fuck you is pretty much pointless.

I never really understood the 90 minutes thing and in the two times I went to a soapy / brothel in Chiang Mai I left happy both times, never checked the clock and each time I only came once although I maybe could have pushed for a second time. I think that multiples may depend on:

1) if she likes you. Wants to make you happy because maybe you are a repeat customer.

2) if you can speak some Thai. After you cum she should bathe you and then let you relax, but if you don't speak Thai and she does not speak English it can be an awkward silence that she wants to escape.

3) if you have worn her out. If you drill her for 20 minutes and you are average size for a non Asian (which is probably 2-3 inches bigger than she usually gets) she may not want to go again. It is not personal it is usually because she may be a bit sore and if you go early she may have several hours left in her shift

You make some excellent points and for most of it, I totally agree.

Yes, it can't be much fun for those girls that are getting poked for hours on end, and treated like copulation machines rather than persons.

But there is another aspect to this. These girls are there to make a lot of cash, they are fully aware of what is involved or what should be involved. I doubt if any of the girls are working as sex slaves or forced into it. They are in the happiness business, meaning, there to make the customer feel good. They do they're job and get paid for it, like any other sort of job. No guy wants to pay for having a short time with a girl that one could compare with sleeping with a wife that has a headache.

If I am paying good money for a service, regardless of the price range, I expect value for the amount of money I am paying and to at least receive most for what I pay for. Because although on occasions some girls may not feel up to the job, have off days or not perform well at times, they are always capable of finding their inner strength when it comes to grabbing the cash. The girl or the papasan never tells the clients; I would not advise going with a certain girl today because she doesn't fancy you, her mother died yesterday and she's not in the mood, she has been on a long shift and is tried, has a period or is suffering from migraine.

Whatever problems the service providers have, no matter for what kind of service, whether it be a restaurant, regular massage or a soapy, than the problem should cost the establishment until they can sort it out. Why should the customer be the loser?

If these services are going to be lottery, with some you win, some you lose and no satisfaction guaranteed, than a few thousand baht can be a lot of money for a quickie session followed by a huge anti climax.

Having learned much myself from experiences over the years, these days before I give any payments or play follow the leader with the girls like a lamb to the slaughter, I first tell the girl exactly what I expect and ask, what she is prepared to do and how much extra money is involved? This way, I have a genuine gripe later on if the girl tries to change our terms of contract. Because that's what is it, a contract and strictly business, not a girlfriend experience as Joe Looking quite rightly has already explained. If the girl doesn't appear interested or seems inhibited regarding your requirements, then either choose another girl or walk out.

Follow these golden rules and you won't be disappointed.

[Arthur Tick]

Sayuri Entertainment Complex.

Location: Bumrung Rajd Road Soi 2. I got the tut tut to drop me off at Charoen Muang Road cnr Charoen Rat, at the Ping river. He was clearly nonplussed, trying to sell me a woman, but I knew he gets 500 bts if he delivers me to the door, so I said I wanted to walk along the river. I waited until he went and walked along Charoern Muang Road for about five minutes, then turned into Bumrung Rajd Road, a narrow road, walked for about five minutes to Soi 2, turned left and about eighty metres away was the Sayuri complex, set back from the road on my left. I walked in, turned left, up the stairs onto a landing, turned left, ignored the first door on the right, but took the second. It's a glass door with the opening hours in numerals but the rest in Thai. Pushed it open and inside, on the right is the fishbowl, with about twenty five ladies, none outside, and on my left are lounge seats, occupied by about ten men.

I sit down and spy a Thai lady in her early 20s, smiling shyly as she watched TV. I go to the cashier and ask for 36. She ignores me. After a while, she calls for the boss. He comes over and asks who I want. It turns out there's a letter before the number. It's really M36. I'the learnt that one should avoid the boss as he inflates the prices. True enough, he asks for 2500bts. I tell him my friend was there three weeks ago and paid 1500 bts. He asks for 1600 bts and I say OK.

The girl comes in from the fishbowl and I realise he is a lot shorter than I thought from seeing her sitting down. She's about 150 cm and I'm over 180. She looks at me, with some surprise at my height, but indicates OK.

We go downstairs into a dungeon, down a corridor and into a room with a bath and mattress on a plinth. She starts the bath. Soon we are in it and she arouses me. We move to the bed where there is some kissing to my body. I move to give her DATY but fairly soon she stops me. I don't think she has cum. I move up to kiss her but she indicates no. I offer her 200 bts extra. No. I offer 300 bts. No. I give up. On with the dom and into mish. Pretty soon, she's making sounds I think are distress, as I feel my cock hitting her cervix, I think. I stop pushing a bit. As she won't kiss, my face is next to her cheek. I remember a woman who loved her ear being licked and I do the same here. Disaster. She pulls back, indicating that's out of bounds. My cock goes down, so I retreat. 'No. ' She pulls me back, but it's too late.

'Why you stop? ' she asks. 'I'm tired, ' I reply. How can I say what really happened with her limited English? After a bit, I say 'let's go again. ' 'No, ' she replies. She stares at me intently. 'Why? ' I ask. 'You have one chance, ' she replies, 'and you came out. It took a lot of effort to make you big and I will not do it again. ' I take time to digest this. This has never happen before, particularly as we were into sex about ten minutes after entering the room in a 90 minute booking. There's plenty of time, or so I thought. 'What you want to do? ' she asked. 'Have sex, ' I replied. 'What you want to do? ' she asked again. It was obvious she wanted to go. But I didn't. I thought I'the try to pacify her, so I suggested she lay down on her stomach and I started to gently massage her, running my hands up her legs and back and down again. After a while, I said: 'would you do the same for me? ' thinking it would get me aroused. 'No. ' I lay down on my back. 'What you want to do? ' she asked. 'I'the like to talk. ' 'You have the right to keep me here for ninety minutes, ' she grudgingly admitted, so I tried to open up a conversation, but initially she wouldn't say anything. Gradually, we started talking. She said she got 800 bts from the meeting and that wasn't enough for two attempts. I replied it wasn't me who set the prices. If she didn't like them, then don't work here. All in all, she was quite agro. Eventually, I thought there's nothing more I can learn here, so I left early.

As we were walking up the steps, she said 'watch your head' as the ceiling came down very close. I turned and said: 'I hope your day gets better from now. ' We had reached the top of the stairs and time to part. She turned and with a lovely sweet smile said 'thank you. ' It was as if the terrible turmoil that had happened before was erased and two people could go out ready to face the world.

I don't know what to make of all of this. She obviously had some bee in her bonnet about how much she was being paid. As I pointed out to her, I paid the going price and offered her extra money for kissing but she refused. I can't help thinking that the size of my cock was a problem. Although I'm only a normal Aussi size, for Thai ladies, particularly smaller slim ones, it can be too much. Indeed, a number of Thai ladies refuse sex with farangs, preferring Japanese.

I live in Chiang Mai and stopped going to those soapy rip-off parlours sometime ago. With all these places, the covers may appear different, but the story's the same.

I've had similar happen to me, where all the girl wants to do is get it over with A. S. A. P and bring in the next customer. They're view of the service is like a mechanical conveyor belt system, one off and the next one in.

It`s all very clinical, no kissing allowed, lots of tissues and the sex totally inhibited. Cannot be compared in anyway shape or form to the soaps in Bangkok. They charge whatever they think the customer is dumb enough to pay, with no thrills, no massage and lookers few and far between.

This girl was probably expecting another fee, because their rules are that the customer must pay again if he wishes to have another pop at her. It really is a pay as you go service or as I describe it, like riding a taxi cab with the meter running.

Having lived in Chiang Mai for a long time and will probably be here for the rest of my natural because I have kids here and my wife died 3 years ago, the decline in the poo ying scene is a great disappointment and for those who do not live in Chiang Mai or on holiday and believe all those fairy tales about the mythical tall, fair skinned Chiang Mai maidens, you can get better deals for your hard earned cash elsewhere, because there is nothing to see here folks.

[Joe Looking]

We go downstairs into a dungeon, down a corridor and into a room with a bath and mattress on a plinth. She starts the bath. Soon we are in it and she arouses me. We move to the bed where there is some kissing to my body. I move to give her DATY but fairly soon she stops me. I don't think she has cum. I move up to kiss her but she indicates no. I offer her 200 bts extra. No. I offer 300 bts. No. I give up. On with the dom and into mish. Pretty soon, she's making sounds I think are distress, as I feel my cock hitting her cervix, I think. I stop pushing a bit. As she won't kiss, my face is next to her cheek. I remember a woman who loved her ear being licked and I do the same here. Disaster. She pulls back, indicating that's out of bounds. My cock goes down, so I retreat. 'No. ' She pulls me back, but it's too late.

Honestly, things like kissing and DATY come a bit closer to a GFE and in my experience that is not available at brothels / soappies that do not specifically cater to foreigners. For some things (kissing seems to be a big one) , no matter how much you offer the tip the girl will not do it because she a) does not actually like you be) has a boyfriend and only does that for him see) does not do that for customers period. It is nothing personal against you, most behave that way because for them it is a job and most have to go with as many customers as pick them. I gave a girl at a similar place in Malaysia an orgasm and after we finished she told me that she does not like to have orgasms because her pussy is very sensitive after and it makes the rest of her day suck because she may have to do several more guys. She also told me that she does not kiss, allow DATY or let men do other things to her that she may enjoy because for her it is a job.

If you loose your erection again you are better off asking for a BJ and just ask her to help you get more power. Offering her a massage or trying to get her arroused hoping she will be in the mood to fuck you is pretty much pointless.

I never really understood the 90 minutes thing and in the two times I went to a soapy / brothel in Chiang Mai I left happy both times, never checked the clock and each time I only came once although I maybe could have pushed for a second time. I think that multiples may depend on:

1) if she likes you. Wants to make you happy because maybe you are a repeat customer.

2) if you can speak some Thai. After you cum she should bathe you and then let you relax, but if you don't speak Thai and she does not speak English it can be an awkward silence that she wants to escape.

3) if you have worn her out. If you drill her for 20 minutes and you are average size for a non Asian (which is probably 2-3 inches bigger than she usually gets) she may not want to go again. It is not personal it is usually because she may be a bit sore and if you go early she may have several hours left in her shift

[Oldian]

Sayuri Entertainment Complex.

Location: Bumrung Rajd Road Soi 2. I got the tut tut to drop me off at Charoen Muang Road cnr Charoen Rat, at the Ping river. He was clearly nonplussed, trying to sell me a woman, but I knew he gets 500 bts if he delivers me to the door, so I said I wanted to walk along the river. I waited until he went and walked along Charoern Muang Road for about five minutes, then turned into Bumrung Rajd Road, a narrow road, walked for about five minutes to Soi 2, turned left and about eighty metres away was the Sayuri complex, set back from the road on my left. I walked in, turned left, up the stairs onto a landing, turned left, ignored the first door on the right, but took the second. It's a glass door with the opening hours in numerals but the rest in Thai. Pushed it open and inside, on the right is the fishbowl, with about twenty five ladies, none outside, and on my left are lounge seats, occupied by about ten men.

I sit down and spy a Thai lady in her early 20s, smiling shyly as she watched TV. I go to the cashier and ask for 36. She ignores me. After a while, she calls for the boss. He comes over and asks who I want. It turns out there's a letter before the number. It's really M36. I'the learnt that one should avoid the boss as he inflates the prices. True enough, he asks for 2500bts. I tell him my friend was there three weeks ago and paid 1500 bts. He asks for 1600 bts and I say OK.

The girl comes in from the fishbowl and I realise he is a lot shorter than I thought from seeing her sitting down. She's about 150 cm and I'm over 180. She looks at me, with some surprise at my height, but indicates OK.

We go downstairs into a dungeon, down a corridor and into a room with a bath and mattress on a plinth. She starts the bath. Soon we are in it and she arouses me. We move to the bed where there is some kissing to my body. I move to give her DATY but fairly soon she stops me. I don't think she has cum. I move up to kiss her but she indicates no. I offer her 200 bts extra. No. I offer 300 bts. No. I give up. On with the dom and into mish. Pretty soon, she's making sounds I think are distress, as I feel my cock hitting her cervix, I think. I stop pushing a bit. As she won't kiss, my face is next to her cheek. I remember a woman who loved her ear being licked and I do the same here. Disaster. She pulls back, indicating that's out of bounds. My cock goes down, so I retreat. 'No. ' She pulls me back, but it's too late.

'Why you stop? ' she asks. 'I'm tired, ' I reply. How can I say what really happened with her limited English? After a bit, I say 'let's go again. ' 'No, ' she replies. She stares at me intently. 'Why? ' I ask. 'You have one chance, ' she replies, 'and you came out. It took a lot of effort to make you big and I will not do it again. ' I take time to digest this. This has never happen before, particularly as we were into sex about ten minutes after entering the room in a 90 minute booking. There's plenty of time, or so I thought. 'What you want to do? ' she asked. 'Have sex, ' I replied. 'What you want to do? ' she asked again. It was obvious she wanted to go. But I didn't. I thought I'the try to pacify her, so I suggested she lay down on her stomach and I started to gently massage her, running my hands up her legs and back and down again. After a while, I said: 'would you do the same for me? ' thinking it would get me aroused. 'No. ' I lay down on my back. 'What you want to do? ' she asked. 'I'the like to talk. ' 'You have the right to keep me here for ninety minutes, ' she grudgingly admitted, so I tried to open up a conversation, but initially she wouldn't say anything. Gradually, we started talking. She said she got 800 bts from the meeting and that wasn't enough for two attempts. I replied it wasn't me who set the prices. If she didn't like them, then don't work here. All in all, she was quite agro. Eventually, I thought there's nothing more I can learn here, so I left early.

As we were walking up the steps, she said 'watch your head' as the ceiling came down very close. I turned and said: 'I hope your day gets better from now. ' We had reached the top of the stairs and time to part. She turned and with a lovely sweet smile said 'thank you. ' It was as if the terrible turmoil that had happened before was erased and two people could go out ready to face the world.

I don't know what to make of all of this. She obviously had some bee in her bonnet about how much she was being paid. As I pointed out to her, I paid the going price and offered her extra money for kissing but she refused. I can't help thinking that the size of my cock was a problem. Although I'm only a normal Aussi size, for Thai ladies, particularly smaller slim ones, it can be too much. Indeed, a number of Thai ladies refuse sex with farangs, preferring Japanese.

In the future, at the first sign of "I don't do this, you can't do that" call the papasan immediately and tell him that the girl isn't giving you service. I've had this happen maybe twice in my entire time in Thailand, both times the papasan promptly replaced the girl and apologized to me on the way out. The girls are trained and are expected to give good service. Its just that they know they can get away with this behavior with farangs in a way that they never would with Thais.

[Red Mosquito]

To be honest, I don`t think there are any left in Chiang Mai.

SAYURI COMPLEX

Tried a few girls there and the regular ladies are very lousy, uninterested and Mechanical.

Thank You Arthur and Nick for the help. I think I have dropped the idea of going for mongering in Chiang Mai and may take a detour to stop over at Bangkok rather than spend stoopid money with no fun guaranteed at Chiang Mai.

Thanks again for the sane advice, have started training Johnny to put mind over matter and keep the dreams of mongering locked up till Bangkok.

Cheers.

Red Mosquito