Phuket Reports

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Check out Karon Sea Sands Resort at Karon beach. Was there in 2019 (BC) with my wife. Had a room with pool access, very nice and just a short walk to the beach. Plenty of resturants and massage places. Quieter than Patong but much more action than Kamala or Kata.

Karon is dead, a ghost town.

Avoid it totally.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

So I got to Chalong yesterday and was supposed to see a particular girl, but she cancelled at the last moment (see last post). So I went to dinner at the pier restaurant and then walked back to my condo. Along the way, I decided to stop at the one bar that seemed to have any girls in it. As soon as I sat at the bar, a girl plopped down beside me and started leaning on me (I don't like that when I first meet someone) and asking me to buy her a drink. She was cute, but a little chunkier than my preference, but I agreed to buy her a drink because I was horny after the lost date. There were some more girls playing pool with a guy, so I asked if we could join them. The guy was from France and the girls were all nice enough. I took a liking to one of the other girls who was also a bit chunky, but had dark skin and a pretty face. The first girl was kinda all over me, but we were playing pool and I had opportunities to talk to the girl I wanted. I think the first girl took the hint because she invited my preferred girl to sit with us. I bought more lady drinks than I normally do so it ended up being the most expensive evening I've had in Thailand so far. I won't do that again.

Anyway, I ended up taking the one girl home. Her name was Um and she actually works at a bar in Rawai, but she came to Chalong for the night. 2000 for long time was agreed, plus I said I'd give her taxi money home since she lost her ride with the French guy and her two friends. We showered and that part was nice. She was affectionate and wanted to kiss a lot. We got in bed and I kissed her back and neck and then rolled her over and DATY until she was worked up..

Hahahaha.

I probably drove past you on my way home last night. LOL.

[EihTooms]

I met a girl from TF today in Chalong, but she is from Rawai. I will leave out her name, but message me if you want it.

I got her name shortly after arriving in Thailand and a couple times she messages me in Patong and asked to see me at the last second. I was out or busy both times, so I had to decline. I made the date for 8 pm today, but she messaged at 2:30 and asked if I was free earlier because she was in Chalong. I said I could do 4 and she agreed. It was like 4:08 and I sat my phone down on the kitchen table and sat on the sofa figuring I would have to wait. I expected my phone to chime when she messaged but for some reason it didn't and I guess she message 3 times saying she was here before I saw it at 4:15. She kept sending? When I got downstairs, she was outside looking pissed. If looks could kill, I would be dead. It was a tense elevator ride upstairs. I considered calling it off because anger is about the biggest turnoff to me. But I remembered the nuru situation the other day and decided to roll with it.
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I submit that her usual service level is pretty bad. Based on the details you cited it sure seems like it (no DFK, no BBBJ, etc).

However, it was the fact that you inadvertantly "ignored" her messages and, shockingly, kept a Thai girl, a Thai hooker at that, waiting 15 WHOLE MINUTES that put a little fire under her butt to throw herself into it with passion, perhaps one of the reasons she eventually pulled off the condom. Good lord, when I think of the hours we wait past the agreed upon time to meet these ditzy girls.

She had something to prove. You inadertantly had "told" her you were too busy perhaps (in her mind) with other younger, better looking girls on Line to hop to instantly to read and reply to her repeated messages.

For 15 whole minutes she had every reason to suspect she had been forgotten, canceled and abandoned by you for a Better Deal girl who would then get almost an average Thai week's pay if not more for 60-90 minutes of her time instead of her.

[CIMguy]

I met a girl from TF today in Chalong, but she is from Rawai. I will leave out her name, but message me if you want it.

I got her name shortly after arriving in Thailand and a couple times she messages me in Patong and asked to see me at the last second. I was out or busy both times, so I had to decline. I made the date for 8 pm today, but she messaged at 2:30 and asked if I was free earlier because she was in Chalong. I said I could do 4 and she agreed. It was like 4:08 and I sat my phone down on the kitchen table and sat on the sofa figuring I would have to wait. I expected my phone to chime when she messaged but for some reason it didn't and I guess she message 3 times saying she was here before I saw it at 4:15. She kept sending? When I got downstairs, she was outside looking pissed. If looks could kill, I would be dead. It was a tense elevator ride upstairs. I considered calling it off because anger is about the biggest turnoff to me. But I remembered the nuru situation the other day and decided to roll with it.

WE sat and drank for about 45 minutes before anything happened. I'm glad we did because she relaxed and opened up. She's the most interesting girl I've talked to here. Very quick and forward, definitely not the dimwitted type. We retired to the bedroom after we both had a bit of a buzz and it started pretty quickly. She pulled me over and kissed me pretty hard, but with no tongue, mouth closed. She was really aggressive and was grabbing my head hard as I kissed her neck and nipples. She wrapped her legs around me as I moved down to lick her. But she stopped me and said no to that, so we went on kissing and rolling around for a bit. She was grabbing dick hard, but somehow not hard enough to hurt. I kept expecting her to hurt me because she was so aggressive and seemingly careless with it, but it never happened. It then seemed like it was time for a BJ, but she shook her head and said no BJ without condom. I said, "Really? I've never not received a BBBJ." I decided to just go with it because I really had no choice. The BJ wasn't very good, especially with the condom on, but the rest of the situation was good enough that I was enjoying myself. She then climbed on top of me and started enthusiastically bouncing up and down on me. Very sexy and she looked great. We then went to doggy and again she looked great, very enthusiastic and aggressive. No shyness in pounding back into me. Switched to missionary and and began kissing again. She was just clawing at me, biting me and her arms and legs were all over me. We did this a while and I finally finished when she moved her legs onto my shoulders and we were really going at it. She then roughly yanked off the condom (be careful! Took it to the bathroom, and proceeded to break my toilet. LOL. She was a wrecking ball.

We then talked about the whole safe sex thing. She said she just did her regular tests and was waiting for results so she never allows DATY or BBBJ when she is waiting for results. I guess I understand that (if it's even true), but I wish I need ahead of time. That said, this was the most different sex session than I have ever had with anyone, even in the non-punting world. I've never been with someone that aggressive and frantic. I've definitely had plenty of passionate sex, but this was different. Hard to describe the feeling. Maybe she didn't find me attractive and she was trying to have things happen fast, but it didn't feel that way. The sex really seemed to mirror the personality she displayed while we were talking -- up front, no nonsense, direct). I don't think I would repeat given the bad BJ and all the restrictions. On the other hand, it was so different that I want to repeat. She said we could do more next time and she said she would do long time, so I might just do it. She was fun to talk to, so worst case it's some nice company for the night and I get to have unusual sex.

[Meisme]

Hey mate! Thanks a super! The problem with karon/kata is that they seem abandoned as of early this month.
This guys been uploading street vids regularly now.. bee helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T597K7sLTBI.

So a little more reading and recent travel blogs seem to suggest that NaiHarn and Rawai are pretty much up and about as usual. Which is great, cause we have never explore Phuket that down south! And I'm reading that NaiHarn is a reall nice beach.

I'm still struggling to find an in budget SHA+ property which I'm liking. Its all a bit pricier it seem in the south. The NaiHarn is expensive, but maybe I can splurge if convinced its worth it. Even though I am looking at resorts (mostly for a decent pool), we're always wary of resorts / chains. Having stayed extensively for work, there is always that element of cheesy instead of classy that often creeps in. Like restaurant or pool entertainment in the evenings.

The NaiHarn beach resort (Not the Nai Harn) seems like the best bet around here. Unless there is something in Rawai.

I'm reading the picking are good in Rawai too? I'm hoping ill get a couple of afternoon or late night soujourns during my stay. Lets see how that goes.

Best!

[CIMguy]

Hello all and hope all you folks doing well!

I hope it is not rude to be a long time lurker, semi retired mongerer asking for some travel advise from boots on the ground.

Me and the Mrs. Travel to Phuket first week Nov. If I will be having some fun on the side it would not be with blessings! But that not my main concern of this post.

After getting my head round the upcoming 7+7 sandbox rules (still confused on some aspects), I can't figure where to stay. Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for a hotel / resort with a great pool and beach access to keep the wife happy, ideally modern design. We never stay in Patong, too loud and concrete for the both of us. But we do still want some life around, restaurants and stuff, and not be confined to the resort.

I can't speak to the hotel situation as I only know where I have stayed and don't know the smaller areas well. But I can say something about the covid tests. You are supposed to be tested on day 6 or 7 of the sandbox, so you would just need to set up your scheduled test for day 6. Where you might run into an issue is getting your certificate on day 7. I took my 2nd test on day 14 and I didn't get my certificate until day 16. Fortunately, I was staying a few extra days, so it wasn't an issue. That said, I don't think anyone is going to check and, if they do, I think you can explain. You could then maybe have your first hotel send the certificate to the 2nd hotel by email or whatever. I moved to another town and nobody checked to see if I had a sandbox certificate. I'm in a condo so maybe a hotel will check, but I think you can explain the situation if it doesn't arrive in time. I also had some trouble because my hotel booked my tests for me, so the slowness of my certificate may have been caused by me not being in the system. They had to make a phone call to find me each time I went for a test.

[Meisme]

Check out Karon Sea Sands Resort at Karon beach. Was there in 2019 (BC) with my wife. Had a room with pool access, very nice and just a short walk to the beach. Plenty of resturants and massage places. Quieter than Patong but much more action than Kamala or Kata.

Hey mate! Thanks a super! The problem with karon/kata is that they seem abandoned as of early this month.
This guys been uploading street vids regularly now.. bee helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T597K7sLTBI.

[Blue Bus]

Hello all and hope all you folks doing well!

I hope it is not rude to be a long time lurker, semi retired mongerer asking for some travel advise from boots on the ground.

Me and the Mrs. Travel to Phuket first week Nov. If I will be having some fun on the side it would not be with blessings! But that not my main concern of this post.

After getting my head round the upcoming 7+7 sandbox rules (still confused on some aspects), I can't figure where to stay. Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for a hotel / resort with a great pool and beach access to keep the wife happy, ideally modern design. We never stay in Patong, too loud and concrete for the both of us. But we do still want some life around, restaurants and stuff, and not be confined to the resort.

- The Novotel in Kamala falls right in budget and gets decent reviews. Anyone here with 1st hand experience? Last we were in phuket (Nov'19 enroute to Lanta) I noticed that the whole kamala area was one big construction site. Its probably still the same? Does it interfere?

- Kata vids on youtube are showing Kata as totally dead.

- Sandbox rules say I need to be in Phuket for 7 days before I can move, and hotel would need to issue release certificate? (wow) Stating guest have stayed for 7 nights / days.

Here is the problem. Out flights arrive at 7 am, so arrival day will be counted as day1 quarantine. However, our stay in Phuket I would like to ideally keep for exactly 7 days, which would mean 6 nights in a SHA+ hotel. Would these 6 nights /7 days be an issue? Does it need to be 7 nights before we can move hotels?

Thanks a ton folks! If its all good Ill post some follow up questions.

Best!

Check out Karon Sea Sands Resort at Karon beach. Was there in 2019 (BC) with my wife. Had a room with pool access, very nice and just a short walk to the beach. Plenty of resturants and massage places. Quieter than Patong but much more action than Kamala or Kata.

[Meisme]

Hello all and hope all you folks doing well!

I hope it is not rude to be a long time lurker, semi retired mongerer asking for some travel advise from boots on the ground.

Me and the Mrs. Travel to Phuket first week Nov. If I will be having some fun on the side it would not be with blessings! But that not my main concern of this post.

After getting my head round the upcoming 7+7 sandbox rules (still confused on some aspects), I can't figure where to stay. Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for a hotel / resort with a great pool and beach access to keep the wife happy, ideally modern design. We never stay in Patong, too loud and concrete for the both of us. But we do still want some life around, restaurants and stuff, and not be confined to the resort.

- The Novotel in Kamala falls right in budget and gets decent reviews. Anyone here with 1st hand experience? Last we were in phuket (Nov'19 enroute to Lanta) I noticed that the whole kamala area was one big construction site. Its probably still the same? Does it interfere?

- Kata vids on youtube are showing Kata as totally dead.

- Sandbox rules say I need to be in Phuket for 7 days before I can move, and hotel would need to issue release certificate? (wow) Stating guest have stayed for 7 nights / days.

Here is the problem. Out flights arrive at 7 am, so arrival day will be counted as day1 quarantine. However, our stay in Phuket I would like to ideally keep for exactly 7 days, which would mean 6 nights in a SHA+ hotel. Would these 6 nights /7 days be an issue? Does it need to be 7 nights before we can move hotels?

Thanks a ton folks! If its all good Ill post some follow up questions.

Best!

[CIMguy]

So I got to Chalong yesterday and was supposed to see a particular girl, but she cancelled at the last moment (see last post). So I went to dinner at the pier restaurant and then walked back to my condo. Along the way, I decided to stop at the one bar that seemed to have any girls in it. As soon as I sat at the bar, a girl plopped down beside me and started leaning on me (I don't like that when I first meet someone) and asking me to buy her a drink. She was cute, but a little chunkier than my preference, but I agreed to buy her a drink because I was horny after the lost date. There were some more girls playing pool with a guy, so I asked if we could join them. The guy was from France and the girls were all nice enough. I took a liking to one of the other girls who was also a bit chunky, but had dark skin and a pretty face. The first girl was kinda all over me, but we were playing pool and I had opportunities to talk to the girl I wanted. I think the first girl took the hint because she invited my preferred girl to sit with us. I bought more lady drinks than I normally do so it ended up being the most expensive evening I've had in Thailand so far. I won't do that again.

Anyway, I ended up taking the one girl home. Her name was Um and she actually works at a bar in Rawai, but she came to Chalong for the night. 2000 for long time was agreed, plus I said I'd give her taxi money home since she lost her ride with the French guy and her two friends. We showered and that part was nice. She was affectionate and wanted to kiss a lot. We got in bed and I kissed her back and neck and then rolled her over and DATY until she was worked up. She then gave me a BBBJ, which was ok, but probably the least good of the ones I've had in this Thailand visit -- a little toothy and she squeezed too tightly with her hand. Then we moved to covered cowgirl and again she was very affectionate with French kissing and we did that for a long while before switching to missionary, ending with a CIM finish. She came back to bed and we were both tired (I didn't get much sleep the last few nights) and we slept like logs until late in the morning. I usually don't sleep very well the first time I'm with someone, but I did this time, interrupted occasionally with her wrapping herself around me.

I'm not sure if I would repeat or not. I liked the GFE aspect of it, but her body was probably a 6 and the rest was probably a 7. I think she might be one of those girls I would repeat if I saw her and I was horny, but I wouldn't seek her out. She what is me to come see her at the Bank bar in Rawai. We'll see.

[CIMguy]

I agree with IHeartIpa, but there is more to Thai unreliability than that. In USA I have several Thai friends, while some are reliable, about half are totally unreliable. Part of their culture is to live for this moment and don't worry about the future. If you make plans with a Thai woman at 5:00 and she is having fun with an unrelated activity at 4:30, it's unlikely that she will stop her fun activity to be with you. If this happens multiple times, you might tell her about the problem, but she is likely to tell you that you need to be more flexible. Similarly, if she is bored at 3:00 she just might come to meet you right then.

These observations are made based on my non-P4P friends in USA. The reliable ones have done well in their work and family situations, but (surprise) the unreliable ones have histories of losing jobs and repeated failed relationships.

Its not surprising that these problems are amplified in the P4P world.

That does make some sense. I am fine with it happening once. If it happens twice, I won't deal with it unless I have a history with the person. One girl was at a friend's birthday, so she messaged to say she would be late. What I didn't like was me messaging two hours later and her saying she was waiting for a taxi and two hours later she never shows up. So she lied about waiting for a taxi.

I was supposed to meet a girl last night and she messaged 20 minutes before the date saying she had her period. OK, that happens, but just 20 minutes before the date? LOL, seems unlikely. But I will certainly give her and the taxi girl another chance because they are beautiful. But I'm not going to have a bunch of evenings blown up dealing with that sort of person. I am also working and only have some nights free.

[CIMguy]

This photo from a Bangla Road bar shows why they had to close the bars again.

They are totally pushing the relaxed rules allowing them to stay open, and the people attending were publishing how bad it was.

I figured it was something like that. To be honest, I always entered the bars with my mask on, but then felt stupid as the only person with it on. It's also hard to talk or drink with it on. So I would end up taking it off. I wonder how many other people there are like me.

But people take them off in restaurants everywhere and I don't see much difference. In restaurants, people put them on when they arrive or get up to leave, but the rest of the time they are off. It's just a matter if you are willing to accept that amount of risk. If you aren't, then restaurants should also be closed. I wore mine walking up and down bangla, but most people did not.

During the day one time some European lady yelled at me because my mask was off my nose. It was really hot that day and I was breathing in my nose and out my mouth so I felt like I wasn't suffocating. I looked around and literally 50% of people around us had no mask on. I have no idea why she singled me out but I had to stifle saying something pretty rude to her. I am very pro mask, but this is obviously a really tough situation.

[HorseTrader]

It's pretty crazy how unreliable these girls are given how much they are supposedly suffering. Is it a control thing? I could understand that. They have to sell their bodies, so they jerk people around a bit so they feel like they are in control? Maybe not, but that would be pretty classic.

I think its more low education and a lack of relationship experience that leads to it. A typical thai girl only has 1 BF throughout high school and often beyond. And TIT, logical thinking isn't taught or encouraged for anyone. Most can't grasp that they should act different (as in be more customer friendly) to make more money because they are in tough times. 2+2 doesn't equal 4 in Thailand LOL.

I agree with IHeartIpa, but there is more to Thai unreliability than that. In USA I have several Thai friends, while some are reliable, about half are totally unreliable. Part of their culture is to live for this moment and don't worry about the future. If you make plans with a Thai woman at 5:00 and she is having fun with an unrelated activity at 4:30, it's unlikely that she will stop her fun activity to be with you. If this happens multiple times, you might tell her about the problem, but she is likely to tell you that you need to be more flexible. Similarly, if she is bored at 3:00 she just might come to meet you right then.

These observations are made based on my non-P4P friends in USA. The reliable ones have done well in their work and family situations, but (surprise) the unreliable ones have histories of losing jobs and repeated failed relationships.

It’s not surprising that these problems are amplified in the P4P world.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

So I almost forgot to post the most important thing. Bangla Rd was closed last night and apparently will be closed for 1-2 weeks, depending who you believe. I heard there were too many videos online of people without masks all smashed up against each other, but that was from some street girl, so take it for what it's worth.

This is quite disappointing because Tuesday night had the best collection of girls I've seen yet, both in terms of quality and quantity. It was a definite uptick in opportunity and most of the girls were sitting alone.

What stinks for me personally is I was supposed to meet that pixie last night. She sent me a message at 7:00 saying, "Bangla is cold tonight. " I thought this was some tropical woman's take on a slight ocean breeze or something, but I guess she meant "closed." I got there and her bar was closed so I sent her a message. I started walking towards Nanai Road with the idea to go to the nuru place, but then she called me and said she would meet me anyway after her dinner by the Patong Beach sign. I knew this was a bad idea because Thai girls have no sense of time and don't mind blowing you off, but I said yes anyway thinking that worst case I go home in an hour and message a girl to come to my room. Of course she never showed up, and then I couldn't find anyone free to come see me. It was all a bit of a bummer, but I know those nights happen.

This photo from a Bangla Road bar shows why they had to close the bars again.

They are totally pushing the relaxed rules allowing them to stay open, and the people attending were publishing how bad it was.

[IHeartIpa]

They have to sell their bodies, so they jerk people around a bit so they feel like they are in control? Maybe not, but that would be pretty classic.

I think its more low education and a lack of relationship experience that leads to it. A typical thai girl only has 1 BF throughout high school and often beyond. And TIT, logical thinking isn't taught or encouraged for anyone. Most can't grasp that they should act different (as in be more customer friendly) to make more money because they are in tough times. 2+2 doesn't equal 4 in Thailand LOL.