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  1. #5481
    Helpful as always TGT. One more: where is the area / street in Rawai with the most happy massage salons? Any hidden gems?

  2. #5480
    Quote Originally Posted by InevitableDuck  [View Original Post]
    Lovely to see some Rawai reviews. Question. Are there short time hotels in Rawai? Or do some bars have rooms. Which ones?
    A few bars have short time rooms, but not that many.

    Ole Bar, Speed Bar, Boobs Bar have them that I know of for certain.

    The girls in places like Bank Bar, Banana Corner and Gilbis Plaza can arrange access to short time rooms at Boobs Bar or nearby massage shops.

    There are a few shot time rooms at hotels, Rawai Condotel, near Laguna Plaza for one.

    Again, the bar girls can arrange places.

  3. #5479
    Allow me to state that I stayed in a 550 sq feet room, sea facing on main Beach road, Soi 2 in approx. 1800 baht, double occupancy with breakfast. From what I checked online pricing of hotels, I could not find at that price point the property that I was looking for.

    For mongering, I look for good experience and I have paid 2 k to 4 k baht for long time on my 2 recent trips to Pattaya in 45 days. So, honestly, I would pay this or more too if I like the girl.

    No, I would not treat Phuket on the Pattaya / Bangkok levels as in my opinion it is more scenic.

    As far as trips or excursions is concerned, I am in no position to comment as I have yet to explore but believe you me, I would love to visit Phuket and am looking forward to plan one soon. Minor price deviations are irrelevant for me and understand that each place has its own price levels. I had clarified that I am a bit inquisitive and never knew of the other places that you mentioned nor read about them in forum except Rawai.

    Thanks for the information shared.

    Regards.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    To be honest I hear this cheaper in Bangkok and Pattaya than Phuket way too often, and to me its bullshit.

    What I will say is that Bangkok and Pattaya have more choice at the lower price points than Phuket does.

    But all three places IMHO have comparable price points available.

    Bottom level pricing of 1000-1500ST is Soi 6 in Pattaya, Soi 11 in Bangkok, and in Phuket OTOP in Patong, Phuket Town, Chalong and Rawai bars.

    Mid level pricing in bars in all three places is ST for around 1500-2000, and LT at 2-4000 negotiable.

    With gogo's in all 3 also around the same of 3000 for ST, 5000-6000 for LT.

    Too many Phuket visiting mongers treat Phuket like Bangkok and Pattaya, never leaving the central area around Patong.

    They look it as the same as Bangkok along Sukhumvit from Nana to Cowboy to the massage area down Sukhimvit 33 and thereabouts.

  4. #5478
    Lovely to see some Rawai reviews. Question. Are there short time hotels in Rawai? Or do some bars have rooms. Which ones?

  5. #5477
    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysHorny2  [View Original Post]
    I'm currently on my way to Patong. In Rawai, I stayed at the Phu NaNa hotel. It's nice enough and I paid a little over $50 a night. It wouldn't have been too bad of a location if I rented a scooter. Way too much walking and I don't mind exercise.

    Both myself and the guy who told me the $8 k baht quote was definitely a brush off. Also, the name of the bar opposite Bank Bar is Banana Corner. I never went there.

    After the all day Phi Phi Islands tour, I was exhausted. I had dinner and quickly feel asleep. I awoke at 1:30 am. Debated doing anything, but I was hungry more anything. Looking at Laguna Plaza on google, I saw some pictures of what seemed like a night market with food stalls, but when I got there around 2:30 am it was dead. The only thing I saw was the light illuminating Club Zhu. No one, but the doorman was outside. It seemed eerily quiet, but I still ventured in. There was no one on the dance floor and about 6 guys and 2 waitresses. The red door to the other side was closed, so I assumed it wasn't open. After sitting for about 5 minutes, I was going to leave until I saw the red door crack and I was told I could go in there.

    It was less packed than the first night, but the ratio was good. About 50/50. It was not many people at all, but the atmosphere was great. I couldn't get my first drink without being snatched up by 3 ladies at the bar. Of course, the cutest one got my attention. She was extremely nice and welcoming. No games or pretentiousness despite being attractive. The chemistry was good and I knew I had her if I wanted. The problem is a choose too fast. It was at least 2 9's, a few 8's, and two waitresses in Geisha type dresses were attractive too and one winked me, but I couldn't act on it. Are they available?

    There was another attractive lady a few seats down. I was standing behind my girl. This other comes up and puts her arm around my waist and rubbed my chest. I'm like damn. I think I want her instead. My lady wasn't having it. They had a mini cat fight and the other one stepped away, but kept eye f*cking me. On top of that, I noticed some attractive women started to pop up around 3 am. I'm guessing they finished off their ST's for the night and maybe was looking for one more or just partying. A lot of them were drunk. I had 3 beers and we left around 4:30 am. Back to the room. She showered and it was full on GFE with covered sex. She had been DFK'ing me a lot in the club so I didn't expect anything different. Great night and we passed out.

    I was good with the one shot. I got up in the morning to pack my bags, showered, and was focused on getting settled in Patong. Man, these chick can sleep. She finally got up around 11 am and brushed her teeth, cleaned up a bit, and then got back in bed. We wound up going for round 2 and it was natural but I did not CIP. Trying to be careful with that. I know. Don't scold me about the BB.

    Anyway, I enjoyed my time in Rawai. The huge strip club in Laguna Plaza is closed. Is that Laguna or the small club? I'm confused. I did notice the other door (exit) was allowing entry when me and my lady left for the night. I didn't notice it before going into the Club Zhu entrance. Are you supposed to knock on the door?

    I paid 3 k baht for the LT. I asked her to visit in Patong, but she said all 3 days and I'm not feeling that. Besides, I'm going out with the tourist lady tonight. Rawai was 1000% better for me and I got my elusive GFE. I wish I could spread those opportunities out, but I actually felt like I had the power last night.
    Nice.

    Not being "single" I haven't managed to do Club Zhou at night and into the early hours.

    It's good to hear that quality girls are getting in there still.

    As to the waitresses, yes, they are available if they wish, no barfining tho.

    Just grab contact details for a private catchup.

  6. #5476
    Quote Originally Posted by DevSagar  [View Original Post]
    Hi Sir, message for you. I was planning to come to Phuket last week but got a cheaper 40% ticket to Pattaya of what I paid last in December. So, hopped on to the flight to Bangkok and reached Pattaya to spend 6 nights. Back in my home country and will plan to come to Phuket in the month of March. I noticed that hotels / mongering and a few other tourist related things are bit pricier in comparison with Bangkok or Pattaya by approx 30 to 40%. I am not a cheap charlie but still a bit inquisitive. I have read the forum a lot, last 40/50 pages. I am well aware of the scene there but still took the liberty to inquire from the king of Phuket forum. My humble apologies.

    Look forward to connect with and hear from you.

    Regards.
    To be honest I hear this cheaper in Bangkok and Pattaya than Phuket way too often, and to me its bullshit.

    What I will say is that Bangkok and Pattaya have more choice at the lower price points than Phuket does.

    But all three places IMHO have comparable price points available.

    Bottom level pricing of 1000-1500ST is Soi 6 in Pattaya, Soi 11 in Bangkok, and in Phuket OTOP in Patong, Phuket Town, Chalong and Rawai bars.

    Mid level pricing in bars in all three places is ST for around 1500-2000, and LT at 2-4000 negotiable.

    With gogo's in all 3 also around the same of 3000 for ST, 5000-6000 for LT.

    Too many Phuket visiting mongers treat Phuket like Bangkok and Pattaya, never leaving the central area around Patong.

    They look it as the same as Bangkok along Sukhumvit from Nana to Cowboy to the massage area down Sukhimvit 33 and thereabouts.

    Or like Pattaya, doing Beach Road, second street, LK / Metro, Soi 6, and walking street.

    In both of those they travel kilometres around the area.

    But in Phuket they won't leave Beach Road, Bangla Road, Ratuthit and it's massage shops, saying that small area is everything Phuket.

    They don't find OTOP area down near Hard Rock cafe, they don't find the mini OTOP behind Soi Sainamyen and its cheap good FS massage shops.

    Wrong.

    And the shops, bars, and girls know that too, so they price accordingly.

    Yet, if you travel just 5 km north to Kamala, east to Phuket Town, or south to Karon, Kata, Rawai, Chalong, you will find a very non Bangla Road priced mongering scene.

    As to cheaper tourist related things you mention.

    Can you please give an example?

    Hotels, trips, excursions, what exactly?

    As I have found all of them comparable, with the only ine cheaper of real note being basic western level food in Pattaya which is cheap.

    But again IMHO, I have always found it to be extremely low quality, hence poor value, and avoided it totally.

  7. #5475

    Thai Good times- Messiah

    Hi Sir, message for you. I was planning to come to Phuket last week but got a cheaper 40% ticket to Pattaya of what I paid last in December. So, hopped on to the flight to Bangkok and reached Pattaya to spend 6 nights. Back in my home country and will plan to come to Phuket in the month of March. I noticed that hotels / mongering and a few other tourist related things are bit pricier in comparison with Bangkok or Pattaya by approx 30 to 40%. I am not a cheap charlie but still a bit inquisitive. I have read the forum a lot, last 40/50 pages. I am well aware of the scene there but still took the liberty to inquire from the king of Phuket forum. My humble apologies.

    Look forward to connect with and hear from you.

    Regards.

  8. #5474

    Too much of a good thing

    I'm currently on my way to Patong. In Rawai, I stayed at the Phu NaNa hotel. It's nice enough and I paid a little over $50 a night. It wouldn't have been too bad of a location if I rented a scooter. Way too much walking and I don't mind exercise.

    Both myself and the guy who told me the $8 k baht quote was definitely a brush off. Also, the name of the bar opposite Bank Bar is Banana Corner. I never went there.

    After the all day Phi Phi Islands tour, I was exhausted. I had dinner and quickly feel asleep. I awoke at 1:30 am. Debated doing anything, but I was hungry more anything. Looking at Laguna Plaza on google, I saw some pictures of what seemed like a night market with food stalls, but when I got there around 2:30 am it was dead. The only thing I saw was the light illuminating Club Zhu. No one, but the doorman was outside. It seemed eerily quiet, but I still ventured in. There was no one on the dance floor and about 6 guys and 2 waitresses. The red door to the other side was closed, so I assumed it wasn't open. After sitting for about 5 minutes, I was going to leave until I saw the red door crack and I was told I could go in there.

    It was less packed than the first night, but the ratio was good. About 50/50. It was not many people at all, but the atmosphere was great. I couldn't get my first drink without being snatched up by 3 ladies at the bar. Of course, the cutest one got my attention. She was extremely nice and welcoming. No games or pretentiousness despite being attractive. The chemistry was good and I knew I had her if I wanted. The problem is a choose too fast. It was at least 2 9's, a few 8's, and two waitresses in Geisha type dresses were attractive too and one winked me, but I couldn't act on it. Are they available?

    There was another attractive lady a few seats down. I was standing behind my girl. This other comes up and puts her arm around my waist and rubbed my chest. I'm like damn. I think I want her instead. My lady wasn't having it. They had a mini cat fight and the other one stepped away, but kept eye f*cking me. On top of that, I noticed some attractive women started to pop up around 3 am. I'm guessing they finished off their ST's for the night and maybe was looking for one more or just partying. A lot of them were drunk. I had 3 beers and we left around 4:30 am. Back to the room. She showered and it was full on GFE with covered sex. She had been DFK'ing me a lot in the club so I didn't expect anything different. Great night and we passed out.

    I was good with the one shot. I got up in the morning to pack my bags, showered, and was focused on getting settled in Patong. Man, these chick can sleep. She finally got up around 11 am and brushed her teeth, cleaned up a bit, and then got back in bed. We wound up going for round 2 and it was natural but I did not CIP. Trying to be careful with that. I know. Don't scold me about the BB.

    Anyway, I enjoyed my time in Rawai. The huge strip club in Laguna Plaza is closed. Is that Laguna or the small club? I'm confused. I did notice the other door (exit) was allowing entry when me and my lady left for the night. I didn't notice it before going into the Club Zhu entrance. Are you supposed to knock on the door?

    I paid 3 k baht for the LT. I asked her to visit in Patong, but she said all 3 days and I'm not feeling that. Besides, I'm going out with the tourist lady tonight. Rawai was 1000% better for me and I got my elusive GFE. I wish I could spread those opportunities out, but I actually felt like I had the power last night.

  9. #5473
    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysHorny2  [View Original Post]
    Early afternoon, I had breakfast at Boost and hit up Nia Harn gym. Lots of massage options along the path. I came close to pulling the trigger with one, but I wasn't in the mood for a quick screw. Plus, TF and tinder were giving me solid leads. It's a pain in the ass with those apps, but I had a 23 year old beautician that was communicating well throughout the day. Long story short, she got off at 10 pm around Patong and we could meet at 11 pm. She even sent me pics showing her working at the salon.

    I found myself back at Bank Bar. I met a cool guy that told me a FL I was checking out told him 8000 baht for ST. No way in hell. I'm not going to be that dude. I do respect the market to some degree. Two cuties came into the bar and I eventually started chatting them up. I knew I could have had either one. The one instantly followed me on IG and when she went to the bathroom, I got the friends line. The friend was a little hesitant to give me her line because she mentioned the connection with her friend. I might try to circle back to one of them.

    Decided to keep my 11 pm with salon girl. She sent me a pick outside my hotel. I'm still at Bank Bar. Oh s*it, didn't I say Taxis and hard to come by? AND my phone died. Luckily, she was still there when I arrived almost 15 minutes late. Got a not so pleasant look from the two women on a Moto that seemed to be her handlers. One of them was sexy af. Are there female pumps in Thailand? Second night in a row I get those vibes.

    My girl is in good spirits all smiley and bubbly. Ass looking good in those jeans. She takes a shower and comes out wrapped in a towel. All goes well. She did have baby damage, but body was nice overall and the kitty was very wet. BBBJ and then I forgot to get condoms. She didn't have any either. She asked was I ok. I asked the same. Chitty, chitty, bang, bang. Once I settled all the way in her, she liked in when I stayed balls deep but she felt too good and I knew I pop early so I had to switch it up.

    Once deed was done, we cuddled and chatted for a little bit. She's nice enough on every level. I didn't agree on LT because I had to be up early for the Phi Phi Island tour. I told her that I would see her again. She sent me a message early this morning LOL. I'll be in Patong tomorrow and she works there so I might give her another round. Maybe the next time we can go eat or drink and maybe LT. I'm certain she is capable of GFE. I just don't like that she was from the app and I didn't meet her initially in person.

    Not really sure what I'll do tonight. The tour wore me out and I just got back to my room. Probably shower first, eat, and chill out. I say that now, but might wind up right back at Bank Bar. I'll try Ole as well. I did not like Gilibis at all. The vibe is off and they got f'and ladyboys there. If there is one thing that pisses me off about Thailand is all these damn ladyboys. Why put them in a straight male bar? S*it is weird.

    P.S., I met an attractive, late 30's woman on the tour. Recently divorced and solo. We are having dinner in Patong tomorrow night. Seems like it will be promising, but I got low patience for Matrix modern women. I have no expectations and will cut my loses early if we are not vibing well. Hell, I just spent 8 hours talking with her. Shes either down or not. On that dreadful bus ride from HKT, I did see a ton of tourist women and thought about them maybe wanting some strange. Looking forward to playing in the Patong area.
    Don't believe the ST rate the other guy told you.

    That was her blow him off price.

    The going rate for ST in Bank Bar is 2-2,500 plus 500 bar fine, on the high side I will admit.

    In Ole Bar it is 1,500-2,2000, plus 600 bar fine.

    Other bars arond there in Gilbis and Banana Plaza across the road will be similar to Ole.

    All the damn Russians now living around Rawai have seen prices jump everywhere.

    Same in Patong, where freelancers are now asking up to 3,000ST.

    Thankfully massage is still the 1,000-1,500 all up.

  10. #5472
    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysHorny2  [View Original Post]
    I flew with Air Asia and paid for a 20 kg checked bag in advance. During check-in, I erred by putting one of my carry-ONS on the scale and it was 11 kg. I was told it would be about 3500 baht to check that one bag. I wasn't feeling it at all. I remember a second bag being very cheap online and I wanted to check the second bag just to free myself up some, but not at that new price.
    It is common in Thailand for airlines to charge a reasonable online price for excess baggage but a very high price if you pay at the airport. I always pay online for more baggage than I expect to need.

    There have been some airlines where I couldn't figure out how to pay online for excess baggage, so I use another airline to avoid uncertainty. If I recall, Thai Smile and Viet Jet were two of those airlines.

    If available, I fly Bangkok Air. After many flights I have zero complaints about their service.

  11. #5471

    Guess who's back! Day 2

    Early afternoon, I had breakfast at Boost and hit up Nia Harn gym. Lots of massage options along the path. I came close to pulling the trigger with one, but I wasn't in the mood for a quick screw. Plus, TF and tinder were giving me solid leads. It's a pain in the ass with those apps, but I had a 23 year old beautician that was communicating well throughout the day. Long story short, she got off at 10 pm around Patong and we could meet at 11 pm. She even sent me pics showing her working at the salon.

    I found myself back at Bank Bar. I met a cool guy that told me a FL I was checking out told him 8000 baht for ST. No way in hell. I'm not going to be that dude. I do respect the market to some degree. Two cuties came into the bar and I eventually started chatting them up. I knew I could have had either one. The one instantly followed me on IG and when she went to the bathroom, I got the friends line. The friend was a little hesitant to give me her line because she mentioned the connection with her friend. I might try to circle back to one of them.

    Decided to keep my 11 pm with salon girl. She sent me a pick outside my hotel. I'm still at Bank Bar. Oh s*it, didn't I say Taxis and hard to come by? AND my phone died. Luckily, she was still there when I arrived almost 15 minutes late. Got a not so pleasant look from the two women on a Moto that seemed to be her handlers. One of them was sexy af. Are there female pumps in Thailand? Second night in a row I get those vibes.

    My girl is in good spirits all smiley and bubbly. Ass looking good in those jeans. She takes a shower and comes out wrapped in a towel. All goes well. She did have baby damage, but body was nice overall and the kitty was very wet. BBBJ and then I forgot to get condoms. She didn't have any either. She asked was I ok. I asked the same. Chitty, chitty, bang, bang. Once I settled all the way in her, she liked in when I stayed balls deep but she felt too good and I knew I pop early so I had to switch it up.

    Once deed was done, we cuddled and chatted for a little bit. She's nice enough on every level. I didn't agree on LT because I had to be up early for the Phi Phi Island tour. I told her that I would see her again. She sent me a message early this morning LOL. I'll be in Patong tomorrow and she works there so I might give her another round. Maybe the next time we can go eat or drink and maybe LT. I'm certain she is capable of GFE. I just don't like that she was from the app and I didn't meet her initially in person.

    Not really sure what I'll do tonight. The tour wore me out and I just got back to my room. Probably shower first, eat, and chill out. I say that now, but might wind up right back at Bank Bar. I'll try Ole as well. I did not like Gilibis at all. The vibe is off and they got f'and ladyboys there. If there is one thing that pisses me off about Thailand is all these damn ladyboys. Why put them in a straight male bar? S*it is weird.

    P.S., I met an attractive, late 30's woman on the tour. Recently divorced and solo. We are having dinner in Patong tomorrow night. Seems like it will be promising, but I got low patience for Matrix modern women. I have no expectations and will cut my loses early if we are not vibing well. Hell, I just spent 8 hours talking with her. She’s either down or not. On that dreadful bus ride from HKT, I did see a ton of tourist women and thought about them maybe wanting some strange. Looking forward to playing in the Patong area.

  12. #5470

    I kinda like this place. Day 1

    I'm in Rawai for three days and then on to Patong Beach for 3 days.

    The BS started at the airport. I flew with Air Asia and paid for a 20 kg checked bag in advance. During check-in, I erred by putting one of my carry-ONS on the scale and it was 11 kg. I was told it would be about 3500 baht to check that one bag. I wasn't feeling it at all. I remember a second bag being very cheap online and I wanted to check the second bag just to free myself up some, but not at that new price. It is supposedly that high because it is within the 4 hour time period for the flight. Got into mini argument with the "manager" behind the clerk and he's threatening to double price at the gate. F you. I didn't say those exact words, but let him know it wasn't happening and that I'the dress in all my clothes before I pay that price. A big deal for nothing. No one at the gate said not a word.

    Fresh off the plane at HKT, I checked bolt to Rawai and was quoted 700 baht, but I had to get my checked luggage and I only had 4 minutes until ride would be there. With luggage in tow, I checked again and it was double now. I think partly shared rides were 1000 baht and private taxis 1800 baht. My cheap ass opted for the 100 baht bus. Not f'and worth it. Please don't do it ever. Added an extra 1. 5 hours and I had to find a taxi to my hotel which seems hard as hell to get in Rawai.

    Taxis in general are hard to come by here. It is best to rent a scooter. Prices are 300-500 baht a day depending on how powerful the engine. I'm close to 240 lbs so I wouldn't want the cheaper options. I didn't rent one because the only day to do so would have been yesterday and I just walked a lot the last two days. I'm off to the Phi-Phi islands today so it would be a waste to get one this last day in the area.

    If you don't want to rent a scooter, I suggest staying damn near on the Soi. I thought I was staying closer to the action, but those 1-1. 5 km walks add up. I lost five pounds already. Hehe.

    My first day I was exhausted from traveling from Bangkok and chilled out in my room after eating a forgettable, poor excuse for sweet sour chicken at Asia Bar but I was starving. The talent there was depressing with a couple that were outright terrible. Quickly, high tailed it out of there never to return.

    Using TR suggestions, went to Bank Bar and the staff is ok. Some are doable, but nothing blew me away. However, very soon two pretty light brown skinned Thai ladies came in and they both were sexy and looked young. Turned out to be 30 years old. Couldn't believe it, one had a real cute innocent look to her, but she is no parts innocent.

    As the night rolls on, they are drinking and start to warm up. Some guys finished up a game of pool and I partnered with the friend of the one I really wanted to play the winners. More drinks flowing. I buy shots for the three of us and the bartender. I have another Long Island and we are all buzzing good, having a nice time.

    Closing time. My pool partner insisted on paying her own bill. My bill was a whopping 890 baht. I couldn't believe it so cheap. This is where it goes sideways. I wanted to go to Laguna Plaza. My pool partner steered us to Club Zhu. It was a tall, early 30's fit white guy with us. I think I remember us getting a couple rounds. I honestly don't remember who paid, but my pool partner is starting to get too chatty with other random dudes and she seems to be in charge of her friend.

    It's about 3:30 am. I never stay out late like that anymore. The younger guy tails ass without me even noticing. I go to the bathroom and had plans on surveying the talent and it really wasn't anything worthwhile solo. I stayed away from the two ladies because they seem intoxicated by the attention. It was definitely many more men that women.

    I decided to leave and completely forgot about Laguna Plaza. I didn't spend a lot of money on the chics, so no big deal there. I just wasted my first night in Rawai and I really really really wanted to get the cute friend home. Maybe it's a good thing. Because I'm pretty sure I would have paid whatever she asked with no objection. Still desiring a "semi" pro experience with GFE had me vulnerable. Took my L and called it a night, but I had a high level of confidence that the trip had turned for the better.

  13. #5469
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    Fortunate, its best to say you have a dilemma.

    ...

    The good shore diving in May is in the Gulf of Thailand, think Koh Tao, Koh Phangan, Koh Chang (offshore from Pattaya).

    But none of those locations have vibrant getting wet options.

    Phuket does have diving in May, but it is on what you would consider cattle boats.
    Many thanks for the wisdom. Looks like I'll just have to focus on the punting and leave the diving for home (Hawaii)

  14. #5468
    Quote Originally Posted by Fortunate  [View Original Post]
    Aloha! I'm a diving instructor planning a trip to Thailand in May for getting wet both above and below the water. Cattle boat dives are a big turn off for me, is there good shore diving anywhere around? And thank you for the contributions.
    Fortunate, its best to say you have a dilemma.

    Where there is good below the water shore diving in May, it is very poor with above the water land diving options.

    In May it is out of season in Phuket and the shore diving is closed, similarly throughout the west coast (Andaman Sea areas of Thailand).

    The Andaman Sea season is November thru May.

    The good shore diving in May is in the Gulf of Thailand, think Koh Tao, Koh Phangan, Koh Chang (offshore from Pattaya).

    But none of those locations have vibrant getting wet options.

    Phuket does have diving in May, but it is on what you would consider cattle boats.

  15. #5467
    Quote Originally Posted by Fortunate  [View Original Post]
    Aloha! I'm a diving instructor planning a trip to Thailand in May for getting wet both above and below the water. Cattle boat dives are a big turn off for me, is there good shore diving anywhere around? And thank you for the contributions.
    I don't know of any shore diving, but Sea Fun Divers has their own smaller boat and is a quality operation. The owner Rene is very helpful. I'd check that out.

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