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  1. #4575

    Your plan

    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    Thanks everyone for the info. I did read most of J Janni's posts, but I don't think I went all the way back to the beginning of his stay.

    The prices sound really reasonable. I'm hoping to do about 2 stays per week for LT, so I'm hoping to find a couple enjoyable girls early and have a couple regulars while mixing in a new one here and there.

    Looking at TF, there seem to be more attractive girls in Pattaya, but I recognize that this might not translate into actual sex.
    It sounds good.

    But I doubt the plan will last.

    The only limiter to the number of girls you will have will be the available funds to pay for them with.

  2. #4574

    Thanks for info

    Thanks everyone for the info. I did read most of J Janni's posts, but I don't think I went all the way back to the beginning of his stay.

    The prices sound really reasonable. I'm hoping to do about 2 stays per week for LT, so I'm hoping to find a couple enjoyable girls early and have a couple regulars while mixing in a new one here and there.

    Looking at TF, there seem to be more attractive girls in Pattaya, but I recognize that this might not translate into actual sex.

  3. #4573

    Phuket girls and prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    Thailand cherry boy, so I'm sure I was overpaying given the current environment. I think I was paying about 1500 short time, 2000-2500 long time.

    Maybe it was just me or I picked the right girls, but service was fantastic. Deep French kissing, girls iniating second and third rounds, bbfscip, anal virgins willing to give it a try etc.

    Actually think I preferred the girls in phuket to pattaya, despite there being at the time, a relative dearth younger girls. Most of the Phuket girls I did were in their late 20's and early 30's.
    No, those rates are right on the money for Phuket massage and bar type working girls.

    Plus you'd need to factor in a bar fine or massage shop fee.

    Tho often you can skip that if you meet outside the workplace.

  4. #4572
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    JJanni blazed this trail in early July and wrote some great reports. If I recall correctly, some of his reports quoted current prices. I last left Phuket in March 2020 and I was paying about 3000 THB ST for beautiful girls pulled from agogo bars on Soi Sea Dragon (just off Bangla Road), but I also paid bar fines of about 1200 THB. That 3000 THB figure is more than I would expect you need to pay for the hottest girl you can find in Phuket. My guess is about 1500-2000 THB ST for a hottie.
    Thailand cherry boy, so I'm sure I was overpaying given the current environment. I think I was paying about 1500 short time, 2000-2500 long time.

    Maybe it was just me or I picked the right girls, but service was fantastic. Deep French kissing, girls iniating second and third rounds, bbfscip, anal virgins willing to give it a try etc.

    Actually think I preferred the girls in phuket to pattaya, despite there being at the time, a relative dearth younger girls. Most of the Phuket girls I did were in their late 20's and early 30's.

  5. #4571
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    Interesting. And if I could ask a follow-up or two, what would be the going rate for these girls (massage parlor girls or TF) for LT at a hotel?
    JJanni blazed this trail in early July and wrote some great reports. If I recall correctly, some of his reports quoted current prices. I last left Phuket in March 2020 and I was paying about 3000 THB ST for beautiful girls pulled from agogo bars on Soi Sea Dragon (just off Bangla Road), but I also paid bar fines of about 1200 THB. That 3000 THB figure is more than I would expect you need to pay for the hottest girl you can find in Phuket. My guess is about 1500-2000 THB ST for a hottie.

  6. #4570
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    Interesting. And if I could ask a follow-up or two, what would be the going rate for these girls (massage parlor girls or TF) for LT at a hotel? And when contacting a girl on TF or Line, should my initial contact ask bluntly about coming over for LT? I don't want to offend anyone, but I don't want to give the impression I'm interested in dating. If I decide to date someone, it will probably be someone I meet in person rather than a dating app. I notice most girls on TF don't give age preferences for men, which makes me think they don't care about age as a culture or there are a lot of freelancers out there.

    If anyone would like to share an example script for contacting on TF, I would be grateful. I don't want to take 2 weeks to get good at it and miss out on the girls I find most attractive while I work out the kinks.
    Going rate: Right now, they are probably eager to find customers as the in-shop prospects are dim. For ST, I think 2 k is doable even for the beautiful ones. That's often their starting point for negotiation. Many attractive ones only want 1. 5 k. It's a buyer's market. Mommies and older ones might should be 1. 5 k max. I'm not sure about LT, but maybe 3 k. Some will ask a lot more, and some will be happy with 2 k. Others can do ST but won't do LT (have family or whatever). For LT, I think it's important to be clear about your expectations (staying until XX, sex twice, etc.). It really helps if they can see a clear picture of you (even if you're not beautiful. Else they perhaps imagine the worst), video chat with you, or meet you in person first. Video chatting is a great option because it will help you weed out some weirdos, fakes, or ladyboys.

    Chatting: If you start chatting, ask them what they are looking for. Most in the game will just tell you straight away that they are looking for customers. Or they will be shy and ambiguous and try to get you to say what you want. I think it's best to just be polite-but-blunt and not waste anyone's time. Your profile could also have made this clear. Or just ask them to come to your hotel. I found that almost all who agreed to that without reluctance were in the game, even if they didn't want to come out and say it.

  7. #4569
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  8. #4568

    Arranging LT

    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    Interesting. And if I could ask a follow-up or two, what would be the going rate for these girls (massage parlor girls or TF) for LT at a hotel? And when contacting a girl on TF or Line, should my initial contact ask bluntly about coming over for LT? I don't want to offend anyone, but I don't want to give the impression I'm interested in dating. If I decide to date someone, it will probably be someone I meet in person rather than a dating app. I notice most girls on TF don't give age preferences for men, which makes me think they don't care about age as a culture or there are a lot of freelancers out there.

    If anyone would like to share an example script for contacting on TF, I would be grateful. I don't want to take 2 weeks to get good at it and miss out on the girls I find most attractive while I work out the kinks..
    They're after the money primarily, if they think they'd like more they'll press that body to body.

    So, be politely blunt upfront, say come stay overnight (LT) and you'll look after them financially.

    Let them ask how much is my suggestion, then push them for what they want.

    Going prices for LT are between 2-3,000, tho you'd want a performing good looker for the top end.

    Generally 2000 is a safe estimate of what to aim for.

    Tho don't be surprised with girls asking as little as 1500.

    I always used to find an incentive based price structure worked best.

    I'd offer 1500 or 2000฿ in reply when they asked for 2500 or 3000, saying that was guaranteed.

    And if "we" had a great time I'd give them a good tip in the morning.

    Normally they'd then ask how much tip, and I'd say 500, maybe more, and tell them that was up to them.

    Can't help you with TF as never used it.

  9. #4567
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    TF might work to find them, but LINE won't as there's no search function.

    If you see someone you like at a shop, grab her LINE and then chat to arrange out of shop time.

    You may be up for having to pay the shop 500 a day for them to leave the shop and be with you.

    As to what these girls want to do in the shop, well they will settle for a HJ, but they will generally want to do more.

    BBBJ or full sex, as that is where the money is for them.
    Interesting. And if I could ask a follow-up or two, what would be the going rate for these girls (massage parlor girls or TF) for LT at a hotel? And when contacting a girl on TF or Line, should my initial contact ask bluntly about coming over for LT? I don't want to offend anyone, but I don't want to give the impression I'm interested in dating. If I decide to date someone, it will probably be someone I meet in person rather than a dating app. I notice most girls on TF don't give age preferences for men, which makes me think they don't care about age as a culture or there are a lot of freelancers out there.

    If anyone would like to share an example script for contacting on TF, I would be grateful. I don't want to take 2 weeks to get good at it and miss out on the girls I find most attractive while I work out the kinks.

  10. #4566

    Using LINE and TF

    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    In addition to using line and TF, I was thinking about trying to find cute girls in massage parlors and getting their contacts with the idea of them coming to my hotel for LT. Is this possible? Or do those girls mostly want to do HJ in the massage place and be done with it? I'm looking for spinners in the age 25 year old range.
    TF might work to find them, but LINE won't as there's no search function.

    If you see someone you like at a shop, grab her LINE and then chat to arrange out of shop time.

    You may be up for having to pay the shop 500 a day for them to leave the shop and be with you.

    As to what these girls want to do in the shop, well they will settle for a HJ, but they will generally want to do more.

    BBBJ or full sex, as that is where the money is for them.

  11. #4565
    Quote Originally Posted by Pwrmnd  [View Original Post]
    This is really helpful. I really just meant "naughty" oil massage.

    Are the massage shops concentrated more on the Naiharn beach side or the Friendship beach side?
    The Friendship beach side.

    The red lines mark where you will find clusters at least 2-3, up to 5 a few times within a 100 meter strip.
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  12. #4564

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Pwrmnd  [View Original Post]
    I've had a lot of luck recruiting the massage girls. It doesn't hurt to ask.
    Yeh, that's what I was thinking. It can't hurt to try a few times, though I guess it does hurt the wallet if wouldn't otherwise use the massage parlor. I'm too old (around 50) to win them over with my looks anymore, but maybe just being nice and seeming safe will be enough given the current need for money.

    I'm waiting for my new visa in the country I'm currently living and it has been a pain to make any progress since I have to send everything to the US. I need a document authenticated, but to do that the sec state of my home state has to verify it and that office won't verify it until my county verifies it. So I need 3 places to authenticate it before the document will be accepted where I am currently living. So I'm looking at another month (at best) before I'll be able to get a flight to Thailand, by which time some of my job opportunities will be gone.

  13. #4563
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    In addition to using line and TF, I was thinking about trying to find cute girls in massage parlors and getting their contacts with the idea of them coming to my hotel for LT. Is this possible? Or do those girls mostly want to do HJ in the massage place and be done with it? I'm looking for spinners in the age 25 year old range.
    I've had a lot of luck recruiting the massage girls. It doesn't hurt to ask.

  14. #4562
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    If you mean soapy or nuru style massage then in Rawai and Naiharn you might as well forget it totally as it doesn't exist.

    Even getting an oil based bodyslide will be difficult to find if it exists at all, as most girls work the straight massage then either HJ, blowjob or sex path to have you finish.

    But there are many straight out naughty massage available in Rawai, along Soi Saiyuan mainly, probably 20 plus shops thereabouts to check out the talent in.

    Whist there are still many younger spinners hanging around still in Patong, with the stopping of restaurants serving alcohol, thee beach bars etc are closed, and the girls are now spread out further and likely harder to find.
    This is really helpful. I really just meant "naughty" oil massage.

    Are the massage shops concentrated more on the Naiharn beach side or the Friendship beach side?

  15. #4561

    Massage girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    Kata and Karon are pretty much dead.

    Probably operating at less than 10% of what they did before.

    It's there but you have to know where to look.

    North of Patong, Kamala, Surin, Bang Tao etc has always had some, but as it's more residential, and Muslim at that, it's less touristy and even more so hidden away. Kamala has a Soi with a few running off the main street when you turn at the traffic lights, Bang Tao has them around Boat Avenue. Around Chalong on the road to the pier you'll find them too, as well as in Soi Muay Thai (Soi Taed), but that's not beachside, and the ones in Phuket Town are still there too, but very quiet.

    Patong and Rawai are the places for punting, and it's massage shop based now until alcohol (and bars) is allowed again.
    In addition to using line and TF, I was thinking about trying to find cute girls in massage parlors and getting their contacts with the idea of them coming to my hotel for LT. Is this possible? Or do those girls mostly want to do HJ in the massage place and be done with it? I'm looking for spinners in the age 25 year old range.

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