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  1. #4521

    Browned Off!

    Quote Originally Posted by AggieDad1  [View Original Post]
    I too like the "deeply tanned skin" and find the "bleached" skin look so many Asian women have these days not appealing. If you are looking at pictures you have to be aware that most Asian phones are set up with filters to make the persons skin color look lighter than it is. The filters do other things too.
    The preference of Thais for lighter skinned spouses is because darker skin is associated with manual labour and thus suggests low social status and poor future prospects.

  2. #4520

    Thaiger Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by KabukichoDojo  [View Original Post]
    That is awful and really unlucky for this lady. She said there are 14 people in the ALQ hotel and the covid guy was traveling with a family of 12 or 13. Hotel budget blown. Instead of 6 weeks at the sandbox hotel she uses that money for 2 weeks ALQ.
    There is an interview wit this lady on Thaiger. She has been told that her original hotel bill will be refunded to her credit.

    She comes across as a really nice woman. I think her treatment by the Thais was excessive, but there isn't even a hint of histrionics or playing the victim.

  3. #4519

    Beware of filters

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    The "deeply tanned skin" is something that I like, but many Thai people think is ugly. White skin is often considered more beautiful. If you take a Thai girl to the beach you might find she is the kind to hide under a huge hat, sunglasses, and lots of fabric to avoid getting dark skin.

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    I too like the "deeply tanned skin" and find the "bleached" skin look so many Asian women have these days not appealing. If you are looking at pictures you have to be aware that most Asian phones are set up with filters to make the persons skin color look lighter than it is. The filters do other things too.

  4. #4518
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    I love the 'Insta-ho' reference. I think you have done very well to get some of them to actually reply as these girls get 100's of daily messages across all their platforms. Maybe because you are actually in Phuket you get a better response. Maybe because Phuket is an island cut off from the rest of Thailand the remaining girls have a more limited range of customers.

    Since the pandemic started I have been trolling the 'Insta-ho' sub genre in Bangkok. These super hotties definitely still earn good cash hence ask and still get an above average price.

    I have written a pretty good script that gets a 20% response rate. I see them quote 3 k to 6 k short term with most being in the 4 k to 5 k range. Even seen a few ask 10 k for a few hours.

    If you can get an intro from a friend, get them both to come over or build some kind of relationship their prices come back to standard hottie price in BKK of 3 k st /5 to 6 k LT.
    I think I only started to get responses when I uploaded some selfies and pictures GTG took of me at recognizable Phuket landmarks. Like you say, because I'm actually here. I'm leery of girls like that, sceptical of the level of service. I'd rather fuck an enthusiastic and cute 30 year old than some vain and vapid 22 year old with a list of dos / and don'ts. Too much like seeing escorts back in the UK.

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    That's great to find 2 gorgeous girls together, you won't always be that lucky. Pre-COVID there were plenty of hotties in some of the go-go places on Bangla Road and Soi Sea Dragon. The "deeply tanned skin" is something that I like, but many Thai people think is ugly. White skin is often considered more beautiful. If you take a Thai girl to the beach you might find she is the kind to hide under a huge hat, sunglasses, and lots of fabric to avoid getting dark skin.

    You are right about a standardized scale, there never will be agreement.

    For organizing Line contacts, start by editing their Line username, you have about 15 or 20 characters to remind yourself who they are. I cryptically write their English name, age, and memorable location.
    You know, with my sober and rational head on and another night spent observing these girls, I'm not so sure they're freelancing. Sitting with your friends all night drinking 300 thb cocktails doesn't seem to make good business sense. Or if it does, they're after more than I want to be paying.

    I think I just want them to be freelancing. I've come to the conclusion that most of the girls I'm seeing in Baanlamai are rich / upper middle-class Thai girls on holiday.

    Attached a picture taken from the balcony at Baanlamai, after 10 pm when it had quietened down a little.

    So, Day 13.

    Went for my third and final Covid test. Only, it isn't today. It's tomorrow. Ooops. Swung by Nai Harn beach again for a couple of hours. It's absolutely beautiful there. Then returned my rental car. Grab back to my hotel and just lazed around the pool, while chatting to some girls on TF. Can't get the idea of anal out of my head after failures with CWB and PTC, so I'm craving it and actively seeking it.

    The only 'yes, have done it before' I get is from one girl who says she is busy and can't come until the evening. She wants 2000 short time. I go quiet. I want it NOW. About 3 pm, I'm in the shower in preparation for heading into town to hit up a massage place for a blowjob when she calls my line. In a fortunate quirk of fate, she was supposed to be meeting some Yank at my hotel and he flaked on her. She's down at the gate. And she'll do 1000 thb short time since she's already here.

    I head down and pick her up. Pretty enough girl, 28,5 nothin' and maybe 100 lbs. Jump in the shuttle (discretion has gone right of the window being so close to leaving! Get into my room.

    She speaks English the best out of any girl I've seen in Phuket. Turns out, she had a Kiwi boyfriend for 7 years who obviously taught her a thing or too (cheers mate.) We share a beer and chat some, then get to it. Some good deep french kissing and our clothes come off. Tiny bit of baby damage on her stomach, but nothing major. I'm feeling lazy and as all this is costing me is 1000 thb, I don't feel the need to make the most of it. No oral for you, sweetie.

    She blows me and I'm rubbing her pussy while she does. Maybe 5 minutes of BBJ then she asks if I have a condom. Sigh. Her pussy is only slightly wet at this stage. I say 'Not yet. ' I've got her on her knees, chest down, rubbing away at her pussy. She gets really wet. So much so, that like PTC, I can use it like lube. For maybe 20 minutes, I'm alternating between fingering her ass and rubbing her pussy. Eventually, I've got my thumb in her arse while rubbing her pussy. She reaches down and shows me exactly where to put my fingers, 'Like this. ' She's bouncing her hips on my hand, fucking her ass on my thumb while my other fingers rub at her. I'm pretty sure she came.

    After, I grab the lube and thoroughly lube her up. I lube myself up and she says 'Condom or cannot. ' Ok, ok. Wipe some lube off, grab a condom and get her to put it on. Still chest down ass up, I slide into her. Warm and tight, I can feel her clamping down on me. I go slow, her rubbing at her pussy all the while. Speed up and eventually I'm slamming into her. And she takes it like a champ.

    After I cum, she goes for a shower. Then I do. When I come back, she's dressed. I say, "We said 1-2 hours. You only been here 40 minutes. " She replies, "Short time, fuck once. " Ok, fuck it, I don't really have another in me right now and it's only 1000 thb.

    Her friend is late to pick her up, so we're just chatting. About her Kiwi boyfriend, about how much money she makes camwhoring (enough to live on she says), etc. I ask her if she thinks if there are any girls out in Patong, freelancing the few open bars. She says none of the girls she knows are. They're all on TF.

    After she leaves, I head out to beach road and have a few drinks.

    Tomorrow is my actual Covid test. While I was having drinks, I was chatting on line with my three repeat offenders. Good Time Girl, Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie with a Booty. Almost invite all of them over at one stage, but decide against. Wouldn't be worth it and my stomach is still feeling dodgy.

    I want to do a long time tomorrow and finally make a snap decision that as CWB was my first girl in Phuket, she can also be my last. She's tiny, tight and fucks like a champion. She has such a cute and sexy way about her, too. I find it absolutely adorable the way she wriggles about when we're trying to get to sleep, always squirming closer and wanting to hold my hand, wrap her legs around me etc.

    Earlier than usual. Going to get her over for a swim, take her to dinner around the corner. Then fuck her brains out.

    Attached picture of Baanlami after it had quietened down a little (all things are relative) and a picture of Anal Expert.
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  5. #4517
    The market is the judge of beauty. See who takes home the Baht.

    I swear on the Bible. If you look at the haves and have nots in the Bargirls sphere. You will see a vast difference in Face.

  6. #4516
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    That's great to find 2 gorgeous girls together, you won't always be that lucky. Pre-COVID there were plenty of hotties in some of the go-go places on Bangla Road and Soi Sea Dragon. The "deeply tanned skin" is something that I like, but many Thai people think is ugly. White skin is often considered more beautiful. If you take a Thai girl to the beach you might find she is the kind to hide under a huge hat, sunglasses, and lots of fabric to avoid getting dark skin.

    You are right about a standardized scale, there never will be agreement.

    For organizing Line contacts, start by editing their Line username, you have about 15 or 20 characters to remind yourself who they are. I cryptically write their English name, age, and memorable location.
    About a standardized scale there is one and high agreement among munger's about girl quality.

    Take any establishment be it, agogo, massage parlor, or beer bars.

    There will be stars and wallflowers. The difference being looks.

    To be clear the Stars will inherit the Earth.

  7. #4515
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    I think they were gorgeous. Ultimately, that's the only thing that matters, right? 5 foot spinners no older than early twenties, casually but sexily dressed, very pretty, with long straight hair, deeply tanned skin, toned little stomachs, pert little asses and boobs.

    If you can provide a link to the standardized scale for ranking the relative hotness of girls, I'll try to be more accurate in future reportage.



    In an effort to remain organised, I tried to 'arrange' my Line contact list before adding any Pattaya girls. Like an idiot, I thought 'create' group was just an organisational feature.
    That's great to find 2 gorgeous girls together, you won't always be that lucky. Pre-COVID there were plenty of hotties in some of the go-go places on Bangla Road and Soi Sea Dragon. The "deeply tanned skin" is something that I like, but many Thai people think is ugly. White skin is often considered more beautiful. If you take a Thai girl to the beach you might find she is the kind to hide under a huge hat, sunglasses, and lots of fabric to avoid getting dark skin.

    You are right about a standardized scale, there never will be agreement.

    For organizing Line contacts, start by editing their Line username, you have about 15 or 20 characters to remind yourself who they are. I cryptically write their English name, age, and memorable location.

  8. #4514
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    I've been chatting to a few girls on ThaiFriendly, Facebook and Instagram. 'Insta-ho' types with big asses and tits, gym selfies and professional photoshoots on their profiles. They're firm at 4000 thb short time.
    I love the 'Insta-ho' reference. I think you have done very well to get some of them to actually reply as these girls get 100's of daily messages across all their platforms. Maybe because you are actually in Phuket you get a better response. Maybe because Phuket is an island cut off from the rest of Thailand the remaining girls have a more limited range of customers.

    Since the pandemic started I have been trolling the 'Insta-ho' sub genre in Bangkok. These super hotties definitely still earn good cash hence ask and still get an above average price.

    I have written a pretty good script that gets a 20% response rate. I see them quote 3 k to 6 k short term with most being in the 4 k to 5 k range. Even seen a few ask 10 k for a few hours.

    If you can get an intro from a friend, get them both to come over or build some kind of relationship their prices come back to standard hottie price in BKK of 3 k st /5 to 6 k LT.

  9. #4513
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]

    Today, I've been prospecting on TF in Pattaya in preparation for my recent move. There's lots more girls in the 18-24 range than in Phuket. In an effort to remain organised, I tried to 'arrange' my Line contact list before adding any Pattaya girls. Like an idiot, I thought 'create' group was just an organisational feature. And so, what I've gone and done is add all the girls I've fucked and been talking to one huge group chat. They can all see who added them (me). And who else is in the group. Dealing with the fallout from that one. Yikes. I think it's good I'm leaving in a couple of days.

    Plan tonight is same same as last night, but this time I'm putting my big boy pants on and just talking to some girls. If I strike out on that, I think it'll just be a repeat with Cutie With A Booty.
    Line tip, Since you created the group and invited everyone you can edit and delete any or all other members.

  10. #4512
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    It is unusual to find two gorgeous working girls alone in a Thai bar full of farang. More typically these bar girls are closer to average appearance. There will be a few that look really good, but not many.

    Long ago I was with a non-P4P Thai girl listening to live music in an area known for freelancers. The bar had a few couples, a few farang men, and several small groups of unaccompanied Thai women. My date said that every unaccompanied woman in that bar was a freelancer. She "guaranteed" it.

    In the situation that you mentioned, I question how gorgeous they were. If the venue was known for freelancers I don't question that they were looking for clients.

    Regarding approaching working girls in bars, I typically just say "Hello, my name is Horse, nice to meet you". I'm double your age so I'm sure your success rate will be higher than mine, but generally the girls have been polite. When they have zero interest in me, they typically turn their heads before I get close enough to say hello. There may or may not be a language barrier. I dont try to use the few Thai words that I know.

    Hope your friend has a blast.
    I think they were gorgeous. Ultimately, that's the only thing that matters, right? 5 foot spinners no older than early twenties, casually but sexily dressed, very pretty, with long straight hair, deeply tanned skin, toned little stomachs, pert little asses and boobs.

    If you can provide a link to the standardized scale for ranking the relative hotness of girls, I'll try to be more accurate in future reportage.

    Anyway.

    Day 12.

    Slept for a few hours after dropping GTG back at her room, then got a grab down to the beach about 6 pm. There's two places to drink. Tropical at one end of the beach, Lamai Resort / Restaurant at the other. Tropical has more of a 'bar feel' and is cheaper. 80 thb for a San Mig, versus 150 thb at Lamai!

    Tropical was mainly just a dozen farangs propping up the bar and slamming back beers. One group of Thai girls posted up there all night, though. OK looking, not stunning.

    Lamai was 'heaving. ' Maybe, 200 people eating and drinking. Lots of foreign couples. Half a dozen groups of Thai girls in 2's and 3's, unaccompanied, some of them absolutely gorgeous.

    I spent the night between the two bars, eating street food and a stroll around the massage places. Not really my thing I've discovered. A few times I pass groups of girls on the street and 'give them eye' and a smile, which I get back. But, nothing more. Same same at Lamai. My fault. I'm 'shy' and just couldn't get over my reluctance to just approach.

    Only 'obvious' freelancers are a gaggle of ladyboys on mopeds, driving round and round and stopping by any lone man that looks in their direction. I'm fooled by one, he stops. Then the voice gives it away and I back off.

    While I've been making my rounds, I've been chatting to a few girls on ThaiFriendly, Facebook and Instagram. 'Insta-ho' types with big asses and tits, gym selfies and professional photoshoots on their profiles. They're firm at 4000 thb short time. I'm in Thailand mainly for the spinners. I'll go to Brazil and Colombia to fuck that kind of girl.

    Everything shuts down at about 11 pm, beer and street food diet has taken its toll on my digestive system, so I just get a bike taxi back to the hotel and sleep. Alone.

    Today, I've been prospecting on TF in Pattaya in preparation for my recent move. There's lots more girls in the 18-24 range than in Phuket. In an effort to remain organised, I tried to 'arrange' my Line contact list before adding any Pattaya girls. Like an idiot, I thought 'create' group was just an organisational feature. And so, what I've gone and done is add all the girls I've fucked and been talking to one huge group chat. They can all see who added them (me). And who else is in the group. Dealing with the fallout from that one. Yikes. I think it's good I'm leaving in a couple of days.

    Plan tonight is same same as last night, but this time I'm putting my big boy pants on and just talking to some girls. If I strike out on that, I think it'll just be a repeat with Cutie With A Booty.

  11. #4511
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDuck  [View Original Post]
    I bet all my Apple share the gogo girls Mr E gets off the clock at Bargain Basement prices are the ones not meeting their Barfine Quota to qualify for Dalary.

    Nothing else makes sense.

    For reference. Stars get more than one customer a shift. Mr E types lucky to get 2 a month.
    Speaking mostly for my experiences and observations in Bangkok since I have barely mongered at all in Phuket and, frankly, I would be hard pressed to recall any of the few dozen Pattaya girls I have had over the years whose looks and demeanor would inspire me to repeat them for free much less for 1,000 baht, I think it was possible during Normal Times to catch a (star) go-go girl who routinely commanded a 2,500 - 3,000 baht fee for Short Time at least 6 or 7 times per week in a condition where she would flop spread eagle nearly comatose drunk at 4am on the nearest bed and after she woke up at 2pm later that day accept 1,000 baht note from whoever with a shrug and be on her way. Possible but rare.

    But seeing how those star girls share their Line info with their 2,500 - 3,000 baht fee customers every bit as readily and often as the "get barfined 2 times a month" girls do with their "come see me after work or your day off for 1,000 baht" customers, I'm guessing 99% of the time the Line messages the stars send or reply to are with the guys who see paying her only 2,000 baht for that Long Time or even a Short Time on her day off with no barfine or ladydrinks is also a pretty good deal. It's probably not going to be the guy who thinks 1,000 baht for a bareback (claimed as "standard" in Thailand) Long Time with a star go-go girl is plenty since getting that deal is commonplace for him and no reason it wouldn't or shouldn't be for everybody.

    Again, only talking about Normal Times up until about 18 months ago.

    I'm not saying it didn't happen or couldn't happen. But anyone who was heading to Bangkok during Normal Times on the assumption that if anybody and everybody could have and should have been doing exactly that with popular (routine daily 2,500 - 3,000 ST fee) go-go girls for the past 16 years then it ought to be a snap to swing it for 2 weeks was likely jolted out of that assumption and into reality rather quickly.

  12. #4510
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    Appeal for wisdom.

    Two gorgeous Thai girls alone in a bar full of farangs.

    Working obviously? And how on earth does one go about talking to them?

    Asking for a friend.
    It is unusual to find two gorgeous working girls alone in a Thai bar full of farang. More typically these bar girls are closer to average appearance. There will be a few that look really good, but not many.

    Long ago I was with a non-P4P Thai girl listening to live music in an area known for freelancers. The bar had a few couples, a few farang men, and several small groups of unaccompanied Thai women. My date said that every unaccompanied woman in that bar was a freelancer. She "guaranteed" it.

    In the situation that you mentioned, I question how gorgeous they were. If the venue was known for freelancers I don't question that they were looking for clients.

    Regarding approaching working girls in bars, I typically just say "Hello, my name is Horse, nice to meet you". I'm double your age so I'm sure your success rate will be higher than mine, but generally the girls have been polite. When they have zero interest in me, they typically turn their heads before I get close enough to say hello. There may or may not be a language barrier. I don’t try to use the few Thai words that I know.

    Hope your friend has a blast.

  13. #4509
    I bet all my Apple share the gogo girls Mr E gets off the clock at Bargain Basement prices are the ones not meeting their Barfine Quota to qualify for Dalary.

    Nothing else makes sense.

    For reference. Stars get more than one customer a shift. Mr E types lucky to get 2 a month.

  14. #4508
    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbass  [View Original Post]
    All due respect. Read what I wrote. I did not say don't travel there, I did not say don't get a manicure. I did not say don't eat at restaurants, don't take tours, do not rent scooters, don't buy drinks, don't get a massage on the beach, don't buy souvenirs.

    I said reset the market. Pay the Unicorn the correct rate, but don't grossly overpay an average Alice. IJS.
    Good to know mongerers can become or act like one of those global corporates able to "reset prices" in their advantage.

    I can imagine that if ST eventually went from 1 k (30 USD) to 1,5 k (45 USD), ((did it? By the way)) with the huge mass of sandbox travellers flooding Phuket, it's time "to reset the market" at its correct rate with the purchase power these masses have.

    On the other hand I can well imagine that after having spent a couple of thousands dollars in a 2-4 week holiday trip, the saving of 10/15 bucks a day by not "overpaying" will represent an awesome sum. I bet it will be used back home to buy shares at the stock market and carry on in being a smart investor: 500.00 $ will attract many financial consultants and I can only suggest to select them carefully.

  15. #4507
    Appeal for wisdom.

    Two gorgeous Thai girls alone in a bar full of farangs.

    Working obviously? And how on earth does one go about talking to them?

    Asking for a friend.

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