Phuket Reports

[Lucky Lukey]

I mean in Patong by the way.

[Lucky Lukey]

Hey guys, a little help with these questions please! .

- what are the best places in phuket to pick up girls?

- how much to pay for barfine, ST and LT?

- what are some good quality (preferably with jacuzzi) hotels to take them to?

Appreciate it!

P. S. Also if you have spare time, I've got the same 3 questions for Bangkok as well.

[Nvslim]

That's true. In real life, her face did not look so white even with the make-up on.

Pinays use a whitess base for their make up and a flash will light them (reflect the flash) up like a warning sign.

Slim

[Goyave]

... But it wasn't about the average Thai population. It was about the average Thai sex worker. Anyway, your source said that it was 19% which is still pretty high (1 in 5).

You read it wrong. Actually, it says: "According to one study conducted by the government in Bangkok in 2007, HIV prevalence among freelance sex workers in Bangkok was 19 percent whereas HIV prevalence had declined to 4.3 percent in commercial sex establishments in that year."

19% was, according to this study, the HIV prevalence among freelance sex workers (including street walkers) in 2007 in Bangkok (not nationwide) and the HIV prevalence in commercial sex establishments (including brothels, massage parlors, etc.) was much lower.

Regarding the photo of the first girl. Is it easy to find girls that look that good in Thailand? Like how common are they (I would rank her somewhere between an 8 and a 9)? Are there girls that look even better? ...

On my personal scale, the first girl is not more but a solid 8/10 and I already said that she is not one of the most attractive girls than one may find even in the cheapest brothels of Thailand. I don't have any picture that I can post here of girls that I would rank higher, but yes, many women, even in the P4P market, are more attractive. Alas, IMHO, there are much more not very attractive girls (at least, according to me) on the tourist-oriented P4P scene, because it's a known fact amongst the local girls that most foreigners are not very fussy about the look of their providers. The local guys would not fuck a great majority of them even for free, but many foreign punters are ready to spend (locally) indecent sums of money for the "privilege", therefore, the less attractive ones abound in places patronized by foreigners.

Also, is it possible to meet good looking non-pro thai girls if you don't speak thai (but are in your mid to late 20s and decent looking).

It is possible, but I would not recommend it on your first stay in the Land of Smiles. If you want to meet real "non-pro" girls (there is a lot of freelancers and girls on dating websites who are actually "semi-pros" in disguise, or not very different from an occasional prostitute, IMHO), it's better to know first the local modus operandi for a courtship (for instance and among many other cultural things), and of course, it's much better to know at least some basic Thai. According to my own experience, most local "good" girls are traditionalists and, believe it or not, but many would not lost their virginity before marriage. Most of the real "non-pro" girls (again, according to my own experience) are looking for a serious and long-term relationship. If you are not ready for this, you should stuck with the P4P girls.

[Evianist]

Regarding the photo of the first girl. Is it easy to find girls that look that good in Thailand? Like how common are they (I would rank her somewhere between an 8 and a 9)? Are there girls that look even better? A lot of the pictures of the girls that I've been seeing in the photo gallery and various other threads were not attractive or the girls were old (or I guess at least not my type) to be honest (for example the 2nd and 3rd girls).

Plenty of thai girls look as good as that. Many of them look quite a bit better, from my view anyways.

I preferred the 3rd girl to be honest. But I agree that the 2nd was scary with her whiteface.

Don't judge thai girls by what you see in the photo gallery. Girls who are willing to pose for nude pictures are usually the more unattractive sex workers. And the guys proudly posting them as examples of female aesthetic beauty clearly have something wrong with their vision.

Also, is it possible to meet good looking non-pro thai girls if you don't speak thai (but are in your mid to late 20s and decent looking).

Yes, but as a tourist not speaking thai, the "non-pro" girls you will meet aren't really that different from bargirls anyways. Internet dating sites are a good way to do it.

[Salsadude]

Well, in Thailand, as already stated by Bionicman, the whiter your skin is, the better! A dark skin is not attractive for the locals (therefore, you would notice that many Thai young women avoid staying in the sun and often use skin whitening creams and other cosmetics in order to look "whiter"). It's a little bit like in the past in Europe when aristocrats were applying powder to their face to whiten it. During that period, the pale look was very desirable as it distinguished the wealthy from the common people who had a darker complexion. That's still what most Thai people think nowadays: you can not have a white skin if you are a poor peasant working several hours a day under the hard sun. Therefore, if your skin is fair, you are supposedly a more important person (richer, probably better educated, etc.) than people who have a darker complexion.

I must say that, as someone who lives daily in this country since year 2002, my own taste in local women is very different from what it was several years ago. I did not care much about the local girls' complexion then and even thought that dark-skinned women were more attractive and exotic. Don't be afraid if that's your preference, there is plenty of this kind (girls with a fair complexion are less numerous, especially on the P4P market) in the Land of Smiles. But, for me, they are not very attractive anymore (although a few among them still are, but that's rather exceptional nowadays) : I guess that's because I have spent a long time here and what is rarer (a fair skin) is more attractive to my eyes than what is very common (dark skin).

Now, about HIV prevalence in Thailand, I don't know what are your sources, but that's not what is said for instance here:

http://www.avert.org/thailand-aids-hiv.htm

Anyway, if you practice safe sex, you should not worry much.

Thanks for the reply.

About the Make-up, that's very interesting. Makes sense now.

I'm not sure where I read it. I can try to look up my source when I get a chance. But it wasn't about the average Thai population. It was about the average Thai sex worker. Anyway, your source said that it was 19% which is still pretty high (1 in 5).

Regarding the photo of the first girl. Is it easy to find girls that look that good in Thailand? Like how common are they (I would rank her somewhere between an 8 and a 9)? Are there girls that look even better? A lot of the pictures of the girls that I've been seeing in the photo gallery and various other threads were not attractive or the girls were old (or I guess at least not my type) to be honest (for example the 2nd and 3rd girls).

Also, is it possible to meet good looking non-pro thai girls if you don't speak thai (but are in your mid to late 20s and decent looking).

[Goyave]

... As for the girl's face looking so white, through my own experience when you are in person with them their faces do not have that appearance. I have found that it is the flash from the camera that makes the make-up appear to be ghostly white...

That's true. In real life, her face did not look so white even with the make-up on.

[Mr Enternational]

Why is the second one's face so white. Looks kinda like a clown if you ask me. Not attractive at all. Seriously what's up with that? :S.

Well, in Thailand, as already stated by Bionicman, the whiter your skin is, the better! A dark skin is not attractive for the locals (therefore, you would notice that many Thai young women avoid staying in the sun and often use skin whitening creams and other cosmetics in order to look "whiter").

For some reason in Thailand I prefer darker women whereas in the USA (where I am from) and Latin America I prefer fairer skinned ones. As Goyave has pointed out, Thai women do not like going into the sun. When you go to the beach you will see many of them with shorts and t-shirts instead of the traditional swimsuits that women from other countries wear. And it will be almost impossible to get them to leave from under the beach umbrella as my fair-skinned ex girlfriend would never do.

As for the girl's face looking so white, through my own experience when you are in person with them their faces do not have that appearance. I have found that it is the flash from the camera that makes the make-up appear to be ghostly white and clown-like as you have pointed out Salsadude. So although they may be attractive in person, a photo of them with that makeup on will make them look like shit.

[Mr Enternational]

I wouldn't mind going to Thailand if there are a lot of girls like her around. Too bad the HIV rate is like 40% or something. Kinda making me reconsider (and seeing that freak with the white face doesn't alleviate my worries haha. Maybe she's trying to cover something up.) What are your thoughts on that anyway?

Come on man 40% You would actually believe that out of every 10 people you pass walking on the street in Thailand 4 of them have HIV? From the site that Goyave posted:

Estimated total population. 2010 67, 089, 500.

Estimated number of people living with HIV, end 2009 530, 000.

530, 000/67, 089, 500=.007 or. 7% which would be 7 out of every 1000 instead of 400 out of every 1000 as you have erroneously posted.

[Goyave]

Why is the second one's face so white. Looks kinda like a clown if you ask me. Not attractive at all. Seriously what's up with that? :S.

The first girl is the only attractive one IMHO. I wouldn't mind going to Thailand if there are a lot of girls like her around. Too bad the HIV rate is like 40% or something. Kinda making me reconsider (and seeing that freak with the white face doesn't alleviate my worries haha. Maybe she's trying to cover something up.) What are your thoughts on that anyway?

Well, in Thailand, as already stated by Bionicman, the whiter your skin is, the better! A dark skin is not attractive for the locals (therefore, you would notice that many Thai young women avoid staying in the sun and often use skin whitening creams and other cosmetics in order to look "whiter"). It's a little bit like in the past in Europe when aristocrats were applying powder to their face to whiten it. During that period, the pale look was very desirable as it distinguished the wealthy from the common people who had a darker complexion. That's still what most Thai people think nowadays: you can not have a white skin if you are a poor peasant working several hours a day under the hard sun. Therefore, if your skin is fair, you are supposedly a more important person (richer, probably better educated, etc.) than people who have a darker complexion.

I must say that, as someone who lives daily in this country since year 2002, my own taste in local women is very different from what it was several years ago. I did not care much about the local girls' complexion then and even thought that dark-skinned women were more attractive and exotic. Don't be afraid if that's your preference, there is plenty of this kind (girls with a fair complexion are less numerous, especially on the P4P market) in the Land of Smiles. But, for me, they are not very attractive anymore (although a few among them still are, but that's rather exceptional nowadays): I guess that's because I have spent a long time here and what is rarer (a fair skin) is more attractive to my eyes than what is very common (dark skin).

Now, about HIV prevalence in Thailand, I don't know what are your sources, but that's not what is said for instance here: http://www.avert.org/thailand-aids-hiv.htm

Anyway, if you practice safe sex, you should not worry much.

[BionicMan]

Why is the second one's face so white. Looks kinda like a clown if you ask me. Not attractive at all. Seriously what's up with that? :S.?

Typical asian make up.

In the western world it is fashionabel girls do add a skin-darkening make up.

Exactly the other way in Asia.

Girls look for a white and pale skin.

[Salsadude]

Your "standard Isaan ho." is probably very different than what I can get in the local brothels in my area for 300 or 400 baht (for Farang customers, I know at least two brothels where Thai customers are still charged only 250 baht per shag there) on premises. Here are a few samples (and those are not the most beautiful ones that one can find there) :

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hmentid=125563

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hmentid=127408

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hmentid=107115

Why is the second one's face so white. Looks kinda like a clown if you ask me. Not attractive at all. Seriously what's up with that? :S.

The first girl is the only attractive one IMHO. I wouldn't mind going to Thailand if there are a lot of girls like her around. Too bad the HIV rate is like 40% or something. Kinda making me reconsider (and seeing that freak with the white face doesn't alleviate my worries haha. Maybe she's trying to cover something up.) What are your thoughts on that anyway?

[Pau Duro]

Can anyone recommend a dive shop in Phuket? I'm coming down from Pattaya a couple of days for the express purpose of diving (of course I'll do some mongering too) and would like to see some Discover Channel type of stuff.

I recomend you Eden Divers. They have a shop at Patong and as well at Khao Lak. Very nice people for day trips as well as for safari.

[Belmont]

I had already done that! Called and got Bodega Hotel.

Further research reveled Lawan sold with new owner new Hotel name.

You french pussies are something.

Ever heard of Google? I got this on the first try.

The Lawan Residence.

191/2-3 Rat-U-Thit.

Pa Tong. 83150, Thailand.

076-602191

[Blake1]

Any one have phone number for lawan residence?

This hotel changed its name, owner an "joiner" policy about a year ago.

Many other alternatives in the neighbourhood.