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  1. #2415
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    You sound like my mom.

    But she's right though. LOL!
    Your Mama told me to remind you.

  2. #2414
    Quote Originally Posted by Luvpuss  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you should consider not drinking so much.
    You sound like my mom.

    But she's right though. LOL!

  3. #2413
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    Yes. ALL things being similar, I would pick Pattaya over Phuket because I can't stand the tuk tuk drivers. It will be more than a few bucks depending on where and how often you hire them.

    Well, I guess I am sick. I don't have a problem spending $50 on beer in the go-go bars, but I have problems paying triple, overpaying by $5 for a short tuk tuk ride within Patong.

    Don't get me wrong; I love Phuket; I still will go over there, but maybe not as often.

    Huh? I guess you don't know, or don't care being gouged.

    That Phuket committee was a joke!

    http://www.phuketgazette.net/archive...ticle9900.html

    It seems that committee made gouging "normal"; it seems they're trying to stop the super extortion gouging (doubtful).
    Well, I would never pick a spot just because of the Tuk-Tuks.

    Besides, I am in good enough shape that I walk and don't have to take them very often, so your right, I don't know much about it.

    Maybe you should consider not drinking so much. Then you could rent your own motor bike and it would not be such an issue for you.

  4. #2412
    Quote Originally Posted by Luvpuss  [View Original Post]
    Huh. You aren't going to go to a place because you get ripped off for a few bucks by tuk-tuks?
    Yes. ALL things being similar, I would pick Pattaya over Phuket because I can't stand the tuk tuk drivers. It will be more than a few bucks depending on where and how often you hire them.

    Well, I guess I am sick. I don't have a problem spending $50 on beer in the go-go bars, but I have problems paying triple, overpaying by $5 for a short tuk tuk ride within Patong.

    Don't get me wrong; I love Phuket; I still will go over there, but maybe not as often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvpuss  [View Original Post]
    I have never had a problem myself in Phuket.
    Huh? I guess you don't know, or don't care being gouged.

    That Phuket committee was a joke! http://www.phuketgazette.net/archive...ticle9900.html It seems that committee made gouging "normal"; it seems they're trying to stop the super extortion gouging (doubtful).

  5. #2411
    Quote Originally Posted by Opebo  [View Original Post]
    Swore I'd never go to the place. Certainly not my kind of place. But friends persuaded, and so I will report what I found.

    It is a very expensive place. Guesthouses are reasonable at 500-600 / night, bikes not too bad at about 200 / day, but everything else, such as food, drinks, and girls, is excessive. I couldn't find many freelancers. Just a few near the McDonalds on Bang-La, who were all asking 1 000, which seemed unreasonable given they were older and not very attractive. There were also a few girls on the beach road, though no more than 2-3, along with many more of the other type. I was even followed on motorbike by one or two of those. The whole scene seemed very low-value and unpleasant.

    I ended up splurging by taking girls from massage joints. Every massage place I went seemed to place a high stress on offering not only happy ending, but full service either in the room or at hotel. If one desired a 'real massage' one would probably be out of luck. There are even several massage joints open all night on a couple of small sois on the right after passing Bangla on Second Road.

    I had one or two happy endings during the trip from decent looking 30 year olds for the expected 500 baht tip. An economy option but HJ isn't my thing. I also boom-boomed one attractive late 20s one in the massage room for 1500 au natural, and twice took a quite cute early-twenties type back to the hotel for full service, but had to pay 2000 for the 'real thing'. Very good service. One thing I noted, both in full service and even during my 'happy endings' the girls kissed a lot. This 'girlfriend experience' not really something I expect from a hooker but I have to admit they were convincing. In retrospect I'm not really sure what I was paying 2000 for as the girl seemed quite ready to stay the night, so maybe its 2, 000 for all night and the 'au natural' was just thrown in. But I hate sleeping with anyone, especially someone hired to be there, so for me it ended up being just short-time.

    Finally I also ventured to Phuket town by taxi one night. Alas not to explore the 700 baht houses I have since heard do exist there, but to try out a 'high-end soapy' I'd read about on the internet. There are apparently a few in that town, but the one that sounded best from the internet was 'Catherine Massage'. Wow, what a disappointment, and a lesson in how deceptive is the internet. The place was very 'cute' and highly decorated, and seemed very Chinese / Japanese / Korean oriented, with cutey-cute but not very sexy girls (though the girls were cute, they didn't live up to the highly doctored pics on the place's web site). The price was 3000, which seemed to be standard for these places (I'd checked in the day before at Patong's Christin Massage, where 3000 was quoted and the girls looked a bit old and not very pretty for that price). So I went for it at Catherine. The girl was whining the whole time about various complaints which had nothing to do with me, quite annoying. She seemed eager for extra money and offered the special service that no doubt many customers request for 2000. Creampie was assumed for this extra tip as well.

    Afterward my driver showed me a small more traditional looking soapy just on the way out of the plaza from Catherine's. I can't remember the name but it may have been 'Shogun' or something like that. Just no more than a dozen shop-houses down from Catherine. There the price was the same shocking 3000, but the girls looked much 'sexier' rather than cutey, and he recommended it. I've no doubt for a kickback, but Thais usually have the good sense to understand the difference between 'asian style' and 'farang style' in terms of taste or 'spec'. I never made it back to try it, but it did look a bit better, with several doable early 20s girls.

    Here's a map I found online that shows the location of Catherine, and the other place (Shogun?) is just down the same street in the dead-end area known as PonPun night plaza:

    http://easyblog.ezyjob.com/wp-conten...010/02/map.jpg

    Anyway, wish I'd gone to Pattaya, won't be back. But I guess its a good enough place for the well-heeled visitor from abroad who doesn't mind paying near-Western prices for everything.
    You should have done more research.

    There are tons of FL's in the discos/bars. Did you go to Tiger and the surrounding bars? Guess not. There are also lots of FL's on Bangla, but farther up the road than Mcdonalds. 1K is the going price.

    Also, get a few blocks off Bangla and food is much cheaper.

    MP action may be the best in Thailand, so at least you found that.

    I like Phuket alot. Much prettier than Pattaya. Pattaya probably has a slight advantage for me because of Soi 6, but not by much.

  6. #2410
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    Yes Phuket is one of the most beautiful islands in the world.

    But for the P4P party scene, I would pick Pattaya. That is because I can't stand the tuk tuk rip-offs. As most people know, there is a tuk tuk "mafia" association in which its members gouge everyone (I like to drink, so I don't rent moto-bikes). Pattaya has a fantastic transport system in which the tourist pay the same price as the locals.

    In the mid-90's, the tuk tuks in Phuket would only gouge you during high season. During low season, it was a free-for-all; you were able to negotiate a fair market price. Currently, does the Patong tuk tuk "mafia" group only gouge you during high season, or is it all year long?
    Huh. You aren't going to go to a place because you get ripped off for a few bucks by tuk-tuks?

    I have never had a problem myself in Phuket.

  7. #2409
    Quote Originally Posted by New Old Guy  [View Original Post]
    Again as I've mentioned before many times, I pay exactly the same, or less, for [b]anything[b] As in Pattaya. I can scan and upload the receipts for those who don't believe me.

    And finally during the day, I am in the most beautiful land I've ever seen
    Yes Phuket is one of the most beautiful islands in the world.

    But for the P4P party scene, I would pick Pattaya. That is because I can't stand the tuk tuk rip-offs. As most people know, there is a tuk tuk "mafia" association in which its members gouge everyone (I like to drink, so I don't rent moto-bikes). Pattaya has a fantastic transport system in which the tourist pay the same price as the locals.

    In the mid-90's, the tuk tuks in Phuket would only gouge you during high season. During low season, it was a free-for-all; you were able to negotiate a fair market price. Currently, does the Patong tuk tuk "mafia" group only gouge you during high season, or is it all year long?

  8. #2408
    Quote Originally Posted by Opebo  [View Original Post]
    I could hardly stand to eat in that town, except a few times when I sought out the cheap cow-gang places in the back sois where the workers ate (and there the sellers eyed me with great hostility, but at least the food was good and authentic).
    Damn Opebo what did you do to those people? They greeted me with open arms each time I went to the alley.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opebo  [View Original Post]
    I have to admit the 'natural beauty' part is lost on me, as I don't care about such things. If 30, 000 reasonably priced hookers were residing in Dubuque, Iowa, that's where I'd be.
    And I would be there right along with you.

  9. #2407
    Quote Originally Posted by New Old Guy  [View Original Post]
    Again, either you don't know where to go, or you have been took for a ride all the time. And I'm sorry to say that as I know you're a long time contributor.

    1, 000 (yes ONE thousand) for longtime with a freelancer at the disco. I'm talking the attractive ones. Not the dogs, these come for free.

    And I'm not totally surrounded by cheap Westerns and Thais living off them. That's a nice feeling you know.
    Well, NOG, it is certainly true that I didn't know where to go, as I'd never been there before. As for 'dogs coming for free'. Why would anyone go for free? There's no point in it. Lastly, the precise impression I had of Phuket was 'Thais living off Westerners', though instead of 'cheap Westerners' I would say foolishly profligate. The worst I found was people eating up 300 baht meals of kind of phoney farangized 'Thai seafood' and calling it delicious. I could hardly stand to eat in that town, except a few times when I sought out the cheap cow-gang places in the back sois where the workers ate (and there the sellers eyed me with great hostility, but at least the food was good and authentic).

    I have to admit the 'natural beauty' part is lost on me, as I don't care about such things. If 30, 000 reasonably priced hookers were residing in Dubuque, Iowa, that's where I'd be.

  10. #2406
    Quote Originally Posted by Opebo  [View Original Post]
    Anyway, wish I'd gone to Pattaya, won't be back. But I guess its a good enough place for the well-heeled visitor from abroad who doesn't mind paying near-Western prices for everything.
    Again, either you don't know where to go, or you have been took for a ride all the time. And I'm sorry to say that as I know you're a long time contributor.

    Again as I've mentioned before many times, I pay exactly the same, or less, for [b]anything[b] as in Pattaya. I can scan and upload the receipts for those who don't believe me.

    Then regarding sex. Yes there is less offering compared to Pattaya but also less demand and less scum. And can pay 700 BJ bar -published rate. Or 1,000 (yes ONE thousand) for longtime with a freelancer at the disco. I'm talking the attractive ones. Not the dogs, these come for free.

    And finally during the day, I am in the most beautiful land I've ever seen (OK, Dominican Republic North Coast can compete), have so many things to do, and I'm not totally surrounded by cheap Westerns and Thais living off them. That's a nice feeling you know.

  11. #2405
    Quote Originally Posted by Evianist  [View Original Post]
    Catherine's website says the price is 2000. Why did you pay 3000? Was it a taxi commission charge?
    I think 3000 is the regular price. Since I didn't know about the 2000 baht special on the web site, I didn't mention it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evianist  [View Original Post]
    And I don't understand, the girl wanted a 2000 baht tip?
    She asked a 2000 baht fee for an extra service which is not normally included.

  12. #2404
    Quote Originally Posted by Opebo  [View Original Post]
    Finally I also ventured to Phuket town by taxi one night. Alas not to explore the 700 baht houses I have since heard do exist there, but to try out a 'high-end soapy' I'd read about on the internet. There are apparently a few in that town, but the one that sounded best from the internet was 'Catherine Massage'. Wow, what a disappointment, and a lesson in how deceptive is the internet. The place was very 'cute' and highly decorated, and seemed very Chinese / Japanese / Korean oriented, with cutey-cute but not very sexy girls (though the girls were cute, they didn't live up to the highly doctored pics on the place's web site). The price was 3000, which seemed to be standard for these places (I'd checked in the day before at Patong's Christin Massage, where 3000 was quoted and the girls looked a bit old and not very pretty for that price). So I went for it at Catherine. The girl was whining the whole time about various complaints which had nothing to do with me, quite annoying. She seemed eager for extra money and offered the special service that no doubt many customers request for 2000. Creampie was assumed for this extra tip as well.
    Catherine's website says the price is 2000. Why did you pay 3000? Was it a taxi commission charge?

    And I don't understand, the girl wanted a 2000 baht tip?

  13. #2403

    Phuket visit

    Swore I'd never go to the place. Certainly not my kind of place. But friends persuaded, and so I will report what I found.

    It is a very expensive place. Guesthouses are reasonable at 500-600 / night, bikes not too bad at about 200 / day, but everything else, such as food, drinks, and girls, is excessive. I couldn't find many freelancers. Just a few near the McDonalds on Bang-La, who were all asking 1 000, which seemed unreasonable given they were older and not very attractive. There were also a few girls on the beach road, though no more than 2-3, along with many more of the other type. I was even followed on motorbike by one or two of those. The whole scene seemed very low-value and unpleasant.

    I ended up splurging by taking girls from massage joints. Every massage place I went seemed to place a high stress on offering not only happy ending, but full service either in the room or at hotel. If one desired a 'real massage' one would probably be out of luck. There are even several massage joints open all night on a couple of small sois on the right after passing Bangla on Second Road.

    I had one or two happy endings during the trip from decent looking 30 year olds for the expected 500 baht tip. An economy option but HJ isn't my thing. I also boom-boomed one attractive late 20s one in the massage room for 1500 au natural, and twice took a quite cute early-twenties type back to the hotel for full service, but had to pay 2000 for the 'real thing'. Very good service. One thing I noted, both in full service and even during my 'happy endings' the girls kissed a lot. This 'girlfriend experience' not really something I expect from a hooker but I have to admit they were convincing. In retrospect I'm not really sure what I was paying 2000 for as the girl seemed quite ready to stay the night, so maybe its 2, 000 for all night and the 'au natural' was just thrown in. But I hate sleeping with anyone, especially someone hired to be there, so for me it ended up being just short-time.

    Finally I also ventured to Phuket town by taxi one night. Alas not to explore the 700 baht houses I have since heard do exist there, but to try out a 'high-end soapy' I'd read about on the internet. There are apparently a few in that town, but the one that sounded best from the internet was 'Catherine Massage'. Wow, what a disappointment, and a lesson in how deceptive is the internet. The place was very 'cute' and highly decorated, and seemed very Chinese / Japanese / Korean oriented, with cutey-cute but not very sexy girls (though the girls were cute, they didn't live up to the highly doctored pics on the place's web site). The price was 3000, which seemed to be standard for these places (I'd checked in the day before at Patong's Christin Massage, where 3000 was quoted and the girls looked a bit old and not very pretty for that price). So I went for it at Catherine. The girl was whining the whole time about various complaints which had nothing to do with me, quite annoying. She seemed eager for extra money and offered the special service that no doubt many customers request for 2000. Creampie was assumed for this extra tip as well.

    Afterward my driver showed me a small more traditional looking soapy just on the way out of the plaza from Catherine's. I can't remember the name but it may have been 'Shogun' or something like that. Just no more than a dozen shop-houses down from Catherine. There the price was the same shocking 3000, but the girls looked much 'sexier' rather than cutey, and he recommended it. I've no doubt for a kickback, but Thais usually have the good sense to understand the difference between 'asian style' and 'farang style' in terms of taste or 'spec'. I never made it back to try it, but it did look a bit better, with several doable early 20s girls.

    Here's a map I found online that shows the location of Catherine, and the other place (Shogun?) is just down the same street in the dead-end area known as PonPun night plaza:
    http://easyblog.ezyjob.com/wp-conten...010/02/map.jpg

    Anyway, wish I'd gone to Pattaya, won't be back. But I guess its a good enough place for the well-heeled visitor from abroad who doesn't mind paying near-Western prices for everything.

  14. #2402

    Quick TR

    Just back from another week in patong.

    Bars are quiet, discos are thumping.

    LDs are now 180 to 200bt most places and BFs are 500bt.

    Had my check bin padded a couple of times, and thats to a regular like me. Times are tough in some of the sois off bangla.

    There are 5 or so new bars at the southern end of the beach Road between beach Road and rattittie Road. Some fine lookers there as well, nice service with a smile to. Worth a look if you are passing by.

    Otop is looking better although it does seem a bit of a low brow anglos domain. Girls look a bit older here but booze is cheaper. Looks to be a good place to start up a night.

    The new seadragon is great when it rains but the soi lacks a 'feel' at the moment, it seems a bit sterile being so new.

    Gonzo is still awful.

    Easy is easy, no change.

    Eric is really good for bgs many nice ones here but not many customers.

    Tiger is loaded with LBs and by far the most expensive.

    Only went to taipan disco, some good ladies, easy pickups. Good for the older gent.

    I was starting to lose my love for patong but I can see it is now changing to a more touristy place. Not all changes are bad and the new developments will ensure the bar scene will survive in some form for many years.

    Patong is still a great place to spend a week.

  15. #2401

    Horny Pom

    That one is nice to tell although I failed to deliver.

    My Isaan squeeze is going back to her village and I have the last night out with her. I get a bit anxious in finding a replacement, and keep a very open eye around. She wants to go to Tiger disco, a place where I'll never go until they keep the idiot cover charge. So I hang out alone at Hollywood and was great as the usual. Got the number of a 30+ hottie for which I have good hopes. Anyway, at about 4. 30 I walk out of it and as it happens I hookup with a tall girl, attractive overall. I tell her I have a partner already but if she want to introduce herself I would pay 500 for a good BJ. She's OK with going to her room, as I needed to keep mine available for the regular. I ask her to walk discretely away from me until we get to the scooter. That already required some patience as I forget where it was parked and had to walk back and fort too many times. Anyway, we head for heart of post-disco night that is precisely the junction of Pisitkaranee and the other going uphill.

    Pom wants to have a snack before action, for the tremendous price of Bt. 30. She had the right amount of alcohol already and we go for her room, that is in the same street where the friends of my squeeze live, but they were out at that time. The home is big and but her room is small and cramped with stuff. She's friendly and responsive, we lay down and no big surprise she is not the sucking camp. I try a little more then star complaining a little. She's horny and want to fuck, asks for 1000 to which I counter 700 and hold firm. While all the talk was going on, mutual masturbation and kisses were exchanged so not really a tense situation. She's simply horny and I can appreciate that, only problem is that I have virtually no erection after too many days of having sex 5 or more times a day! I thought she would have kicked me out at that time but she insists and puts a condom on me.
    What followed was the lame imitation of an intercourse but that doesn't seem to bother her too much. I place the notes on the furniture, apologize much for "no power" and get dressed to leave. She's not having any of that, she got a man and she wants it to "fuck very good". She grabs me back on the bed, takes off out my shirt and pants again. I suggest that I make her cum with proper pussy licking but that satisfies her only partially. The second round, as one could image, did not go much better than the first but somehow she manage to cum and pass out. She want me to sleep with her so I have to remind the "official lady" stuff. Finally I manage to get to the door. The official doesn't answer the phone, turns out the got asleep at her friend's house after some bar hopping that cost them Bt. 30 a drink. I go to sleep tired but happy. The official is now leaving in few hours and that is sad, but each of us has his own life to live (separately) and we know that. My newly bought shirts and clothes are waiting, the night is waiting, it will be what it has to be.

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