Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[Syzygies]

I have broken a few thin condoms due to over stress, I. E. Poke through. The thrusting, even in a well lubricated vagina, causes the condom to bunch up at the base and it pulls down tightly at the tip. The axial stresses on the condom can be huge! And these stresses cause the condom material at the tip to stretch out and to tightly seal the urethral opening. If the vagina is even slightly dry, then you will have a poke through. If you don't have a poke through, ejaculation will hurt as you have to break through the seal that the stretched condom creates.

When I was younger I never seemed to have this issue. I would leave an inch at the tip and that inch would remain the entire time. Not any more. And even with he reservoir-tipped condoms, the axial forces stretches out that reservoir and it engulfs practically the entire tip of my penis!

But many times I have pulled out and I have tried to pull the condom back out a little bit to re-create a gap, but the condom just won't pull out, possibly due to the vacuum created. I have no ideal how to stop it. My penis is essentially the same size, and I normally use lubricated condoms which one would think would resist the axial forces. Or maybe the lube quickly dries out a bit or otherwise acts to allow the condom to stretch out, but not back. So it acts like a ratchet. Each stroke pulls the material tighter.

Almost every condom I have tried in the last few years exhibits this problem, to include thin or thick, slim fit or normal fit. (Can't remember about the large size.) Very strange. Anyone else have this happen?

Ha ha. I have never experienced what you refer to, or rarely and not noticed. My dick must be opposite to yours since condom gradually moving up the cock towards the tip is the norm, so then I have to pull it back down again. Bunching a bit below the head is common. I probably never fuck with such force you mention. A very gentle fucker, and I like slow motion more than battering ram style. I have heard the slap slap of other guys fucking and I note that most are a faster stroke than what I prefer. Sometimes have to speed up for the girl's benefit. Some like a power fuck.

With Okamoto 003, the condom is a bit small. It does not reach the base of dick at all, let alone bunching there. Ha ha. I have to put fingers of both hands inside it to stretch it, in order to get it on, using fingers to unroll it pulling downwards.

I use a lot of lube, probably more than normal, to make sure that vagina cannot pull on condom too strongly. I like slippery feel not abrasion feel. I did meet one girl who wanted low lube so her pussy could contract and massage the dick very strongly. She was not Thai.

The only thing I can think of is your lube is insufficient.

The dick is not sharp enough to prick a condom. How you can get forces strong enough to break it, is beyond my thinking. I think it is likely you abrade the condom, potentially on a sponge inserted in the girl's pussy. 5 to 10% of girls fucked have them. I almost always put fingers in a girl to check for obstructions. If I did not initially, but am having a hard time to get the dick to go in sufficiently, then I will try to check. Sometimes the girl's descended uterus is the obstruction, sometimes not. We have to be patient at the start of sex to give the girl's vagina time to stretch. Remember it has to stretch heaps to let a baby pass. Can stretch from 4 to 5 inches hopefully to 7 to 8 inches if healthy and if necessary. Extra tight pussies can be a problem for me, especially if a doctor stitched her up a bit too tight in the past.

Have you seen condoms used as balloons filled with water? One can see they are quite strong if not damaged.

[FL Hawk]

I have moved to ultra thin condoms like many others. I don't believe they break any more often. If they do break I can change it. Breakage comes from finger nails, or anything else sharp, or manufacturing defect, or from abrasion against a sponge shoved in the girl's pussy. I always check for sponges and make sure thy get removed. I probably can not fuck with a thick condom, so forget that for an idea.

I have broken a few thin condoms due to over stress, I. E. Poke through. The thrusting, even in a well lubricated vagina, causes the condom to bunch up at the base and it pulls down tightly at the tip. The axial stresses on the condom can be huge! And these stresses cause the condom material at the tip to stretch out and to tightly seal the urethral opening. If the vagina is even slightly dry, then you will have a poke through. If you don't have a poke through, ejaculation will hurt as you have to break through the seal that the stretched condom creates.

When I was younger I never seemed to have this issue. I would leave an inch at the tip and that inch would remain the entire time. Not any more. And even with he reservoir-tipped condoms, the axial forces stretches out that reservoir and it engulfs practically the entire tip of my penis!

But many times I have pulled out and I have tried to pull the condom back out a little bit to re-create a gap, but the condom just won't pull out, possibly due to the vacuum created. I have no ideal how to stop it. My penis is essentially the same size, and I normally use lubricated condoms which one would think would resist the axial forces. Or maybe the lube quickly dries out a bit or otherwise acts to allow the condom to stretch out, but not back. So it acts like a ratchet. Each stroke pulls the material tighter.

Almost every condom I have tried in the last few years exhibits this problem, to include thin or thick, slim fit or normal fit. (Can't remember about the large size.) Very strange. Anyone else have this happen?

[EnjoyLife63]

Having BBBJ is not risky for STDs, I would say the risk is the same as kissing a woman. You don't need to get tested for HPV and HSV if you have no symptom. HSV2 is rare in the oral area, when it happens, it's on the mouth most of the time and rarely inside the mouth. You can't miss lesions on the mouth. You can't catch hsv1 twice, if you had hsv1 in the oral area, you won't develop hsv1 in another site. HSV1 offer protection against hsv2. Some medical professionals don't agree with me but many agree with me. You need to use condom when you have vaginal sex. After every sexual encounter, remove the condom gently and wash your hands with soap before washing your penis, wash your penis for 5 minutes minimum with water. Avoid using some products on your penis. You should avoid excessive alcohol and illicit drug because it can lower your immunity and lead you to high risk sexual behavior. After your trip, if you worry too much when it comes to STDs, you can get screened for STDs just for peace of mind but I am sure you won't contract anything. STDs are easily cured or easily treated (Herpes) but most of the time asymptomatic. STDs is only dangerous when you are married. STD can ruin your marital life because STDs are reportable. HSV and HPV are not reportable.

They focus on developping vaccines for Gonorrhea, Chlamydia and Syphilis, the program will last 5 years. http://industrynewstimes.com/263/nih-announced-to-give-award-to-those-who-find-vaccine-for-stds/

Thank you for all the useful information. I bareback girls everyday, I don't really care about spooky STD. I am suffering from stomach cancer and enjoy fucking girls everyday. I feel healthier outside the USA.

[PedroMorales]

Perhaps it is time for us all to do a PhD in safe sex studies. As someone who has got the clap three times over 40 or so years, let me say the following from bad experience. We have to be very careful what we read on line, on this forum included. In at least one of those three cases, a major contributory factor was that I paid heed to "no STI risk for Thai hookers" even though I knew the opposite to be the case. Getting STIs is a bummer and STI clinics are not the type of place one feels like hitting on a chick.

In this hobby of ours, we are riding the odds and al kinds of quacks want to tell us how to beat the odds. And we want to believe them.

I stopped closely following this thread hen the information and catalogue of STIs and related illnesses got very detailed.

I wil try to obey all the usual safe sex codes of practice with this one caveat. I am old school. I like bareback. I know the risks but I want to wish them away and the Internet helps me with that but not with my STI bills.

[MongerForSex]

Sexual transmitted diseases are only dangerous when you are married because they are reportable. Am I the only one not understanding what this guy is talking about?

Lool It's finacially dangerous. If getting ruined by marriage is not dangerous. Good for you. You are the only one that needs concentration to read posts. Maybe you also need more intelligence.

[Franciscass]

Having BBBJ
STDs is only dangerous when you are married. STD can ruin your marital life because STDs are reportable. HSV and HPV are not reportable.

Sexual transmitted diseases are only dangerous when you are married because they are reportable. Am I the only one not understanding what this guy is talking about?

[Ed Setra]

Having BBBJ is not risky for STDs, I would say the risk is the same as kissing a woman.

Some medical professionals don't agree with me.

STDs is only dangerous when you are married. STD can ruin your marital life because STDs are reportable.

Sweeping statements indeed. I agree with the second one though.

I'll get my popcorn and observe (not).

[MongerForSex]

Okay I don't know exactly how I got my "pink eye" (can't prove anything), so am very willing to hear the likely ways it could get there.

It's not difficult to understand, trachoma is caused by another subtype of chlamydia. You did not get trachoma from finger in pussy.

[MongerForSex]

Hi!

As a layman in terms of medical knowledge on STD's, I have a query:

I am off to Pattaya in few weeks. I am not a fan of DATY so that is out of question. I always indulge in protected intercourse so that is covered too. My only fetish is to have BBBJ before sex, almost every time. What protections / pro active steps can I take to minimize the risk of STD's from my mongering adventures, given the steps that I follow already?

Thanks in advance.

Having BBBJ is not risky for STDs, I would say the risk is the same as kissing a woman. You don't need to get tested for HPV and HSV if you have no symptom. HSV2 is rare in the oral area, when it happens, it's on the mouth most of the time and rarely inside the mouth. You can't miss lesions on the mouth. You can't catch hsv1 twice, if you had hsv1 in the oral area, you won't develop hsv1 in another site. HSV1 offer protection against hsv2. Some medical professionals don't agree with me but many agree with me. You need to use condom when you have vaginal sex. After every sexual encounter, remove the condom gently and wash your hands with soap before washing your penis, wash your penis for 5 minutes minimum with water. Avoid using some products on your penis. You should avoid excessive alcohol and illicit drug because it can lower your immunity and lead you to high risk sexual behavior. After your trip, if you worry too much when it comes to STDs, you can get screened for STDs just for peace of mind but I am sure you won't contract anything. STDs are easily cured or easily treated (Herpes) but most of the time asymptomatic. STDs is only dangerous when you are married. STD can ruin your marital life because STDs are reportable. HSV and HPV are not reportable.

They focus on developping vaccines for Gonorrhea, Chlamydia and Syphilis, the program will last 5 years. http://industrynewstimes.com/263/nih-announced-to-give-award-to-those-who-find-vaccine-for-stds/

[Syzygies]

Syzygies, You did not catch chlamydia from finger in pussy, you had trachomatis. Stop being paranoid. There is no point in trying to understand how you got it.

I don't think I am paranoid. I may have made a wrong guess, not being an expert. Tell me then, what are like methods the bacteria got into one eye. I assumed was on my finger and I rubbed my eye. Please enlighten further, what ways are more likely.

If it is the same bacteria that causes Chlamydia, then it was a reasonable guess it came from a pussy. If not, is it airborne? I doubt it. So what are the likely sources. At the time it was called "Chlamydia pink eye" at the eye hospital I believe. I don't recall the eye hospital doctor mentioning the term "Trachomatis", and of course fancy terms may not mean that much to us. So anyway I was told I tested positive to Chlamydia in the eye.

I am aware the medical professionals like to use different terminology for similar conditions caught in different parts of the body. E. g. I once had "acne" under the hair of my scalp but the skin doctor said no, acne was impossible in that place, it was dandruff. Later another better skin specialist admitted it was in fact the same as acne, but is given a different name in that location by the medical profession. So we learn not to trust doctors who are trying to dumb it down, and say the problem is something else, when I know very well it was "acne" by my definition of the term.

Okay I don't know exactly how I got my "pink eye" (can't prove anything), so am very willing to hear the likely ways it could get there.

[Etaoin2003]

I've heard hand sanitizer is a bad ideas because it dries out skin but can't you just use it and then moisturize?

Ahem. Hand sanitizer is alcohol and glycerin. Why don't you try it and report back. .

You won't repeat.

[Growtek]

HPV is with you for life and if transmitted to women many strains cause cervical cancer.

[YearOfMonk]

Recieving unprotected oral sex is not really risky, the risk is the same as kissing. You can't contract hiv from oral sex. You can rarely contract HSV2 from oral sex, maybe it's possible but it's very rare. Oral area is not a common place for HSV2. Having hsv1 protects you against hsv2. Syzygies, You know many people are misdiagnosed, you were misdiagnosed for hsv. Many non infectious or infectious diseases can mimic hsv..

Hi!

As a layman in terms of medical knowledge on STD's, I have a query:

I am off to Pattaya in few weeks. I am not a fan of DATY so that is out of question. I always indulge in protected intercourse so that is covered too. My only fetish is to have BBBJ before sex, almost every time. What protections / pro active steps can I take to minimize the risk of STD's from my mongering adventures, given the steps that I follow already?

Thanks in advance.

[MongerForSex]

So maybe I am making this more complex than it is but the safest way to have sex with working girls is.

Trim your pubic hair as this can be a medium to catch disease.

Put the condom on before touching their cochi.

Don't use thin condoms, because they are more likely to break.

After removing the condom wash your private areas with soap and water.

I've heard hand sanitizer is a bad ideas because it dries out skin but can't you just use it and then moisturize? Is there any safe, useful, post sex disinfectant?

Yea I know there's always risks, no I'm not germafobe, I'm just trying to get tips for best practice as we are with woman who might see several clients in a day and we might see many girls in a day so there are a few minor habits to develop to make this as safe as possible. I figure here is a good place to find wise people who can share precautions, thanks y'all.

Cochi? WTF? Lookup internet shows it is a type of fish in Mexico. Otherwise not recognised. Maybe you misspelled it. I suppose you were trying for coochie, not a word often used on here, so took me a while to think of it.

I have moved to ultra thin condoms like many others. I don't believe they break any more often. If they do break I can change it. Breakage comes from finger nails, or anything else sharp, or manufacturing defect, or from abrasion against a sponge shoved in the girl's pussy. I always check for sponges and make sure thy get removed. I probably can not fuck with a thick condom, so forget that for an idea.

Alkaline cake soaps are not good for your crotch. Can promote fungal infections. A very mild soap is okay Or a slightly acidic special wash is good. These are sold mostly for ladies but men can use as well.

Washing hands well is important, agreed, to prevent spread of all types of things, not especially STDs. I caught an eye infection once, possibly transferred from finger in pussy.

I don't have microbe phobia. I almost always catch a virus after a long plane flight, but mostly not catching anything much from girls.

Just getting breathed on is a big risk. My respiratory health improves a lot in Thailand. I believe humidity is helping me a lot.

Syzygies, You did not catch chlamydia from finger in pussy, you had trachomatis. Stop being paranoid. There is no point in trying to understand how you got it.

LivingFossil, After removing the condon, washing hands with soap first is important. I don't advise people to wash their penis with soap, especially uncircumcised men. Penile skin is more fragile. Soap may irritate the skin. Mucous membrane and abrasion increase sthe risk of sti. Washing your penis with warm water is enough (but not too warm).

Using condom for every vaginal act, thin condoms are good, I often use thin condoms and never had any problem with them.

Recieving unprotected oral sex is not really risky, the risk is the same as kissing. You can't contract hiv from oral sex. You can rarely contract HSV2 from oral sex, maybe it's possible but it's very rare. Oral area is not a common place for HSV2. Having hsv1 protects you against hsv2. Syzygies, You know many people are misdiagnosed, you were misdiagnosed for hsv. Many non infectious or infectious diseases can mimic hsv.

HSV 2 immunity https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/h...ns/show/686439.

Oral sex https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/HSV-2/show/1800860.

HPV is very common, hpv usually goes away on its own within 2 years. Most people are asymptomatic.

I have never seen syphilistic chancre in the oral area, it's not common, most chancres are seen in genital area and anus. Some evidences say oral sex is the main cause of the rise of syphilis. I don't agree, because most people practising oral sex also engage in vaginal or anal sex. Syphilis is easily treated in early stages. It's easy to cure late latent syphilis, three injections, once a week for three weeks is enought to cure late latent syphilis or to stop tertiary syphilis to cause further damage. People with late latent syphilis are not likely to develop neurosyphilis but they may develop benign tertiary syphilis (gummas) or heart diseases. Neurosyphilis often starts in the early stages. Most cases of neurosyphilis are asymptomatic. Neurosyphilis happens more often in people with lowered immunity (HIV and other causes), daily intramuscular injections for 14 days will stop neurosyphilis from causing further damage but won't reverse the damage that are already done. Penicillin is the best treatment for syphilis in any stage. When people with syphilis is treated in early stages, they are partially immune to syphilis. Untreated people or people treated in late stage are immune to syphilis. Tabes dorsalis (myelopathy today) and general paresis (Dementia today) are inexistent today. To me, there is no link between tabes dorsalis and syphilis. Because penicillin doesn't stop the progression. Today myelopathy is caused by other medical causes. Some people with primary syphilis won't develop secondary syphilis. That means you will remain negative becuse your first defence killed the pathogens before progressing to the secondary stage. Early treatment when the chancre developed will also prevent your test (TPHA) to become positive if the initial test was still negative, that means you won't be partially immune.

https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseas...ilis-acquired/

Syphilis oral sex https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/S...s/show/2060761.

Syphilis oral sex https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/o...s/show/1908195.

Syphilis immunity https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/S...ns/show/397567 http://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/med...1/syphilis.htm.

Chlamydia can go away without treatment. People can catch chlamydia without knowing the real cause of transmission. Most having oral sex also engage in vaginal and anal sex. There is no point in trying to understand how you caught chlamydia.

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/g...x/show/1919185

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/C...x/show/1241539

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/O...y/show/1148581

I partially agree with them. Every dermatovenereologist has their own opinion.

LivingFossil, I advise you to see a dermatovenereologist if you have questions about STDs. He can answer all your questions. Every dermatovenereologist is different. If someday, you plan to monger in Brazil, I will be happy to receive you and answer all your questions. Keep living, nothing is better than sex.

[Syzygies]

Put the condom on before touching their cochi.

Don't use thin condoms, because they are more likely to break.

After removing the condom wash your private areas with soap and water.

I've heard hand sanitizer is a bad ideas because it dries out skin but can't you just use it and then moisturize? Is there any safe, useful, post sex disinfectant?

Yea I know there's always risks, no I'm not germafobe, I'm just trying to get tips for best practice as we are with woman who might see several clients in a day and we might see many girls in a day so there are a few minor habits to develop to make this as safe as possible. I figure here is a good place to find wise people who can share precautions, thanks y'all.

Cochi? WTF? Lookup internet shows it is a type of fish in Mexico. Otherwise not recognised. Maybe you misspelled it. I suppose you were trying for coochie, not a word often used on here, so took me a while to think of it.

I have moved to ultra thin condoms like many others. I don't believe they break any more often. If they do break I can change it. Breakage comes from finger nails, or anything else sharp, or manufacturing defect, or from abrasion against a sponge shoved in the girl's pussy. I always check for sponges and make sure thy get removed. I probably can not fuck with a thick condom, so forget that for an idea.

Alkaline cake soaps are not good for your crotch. Can promote fungal infections. A very mild soap is okay Or a slightly acidic special wash is good. These are sold mostly for ladies but men can use as well.

Washing hands well is important, agreed, to prevent spread of all types of things, not especially STDs. I caught an eye infection once, possibly transferred from finger in pussy.

I don't have microbe phobia. I almost always catch a virus after a long plane flight, but mostly not catching anything much from girls.

Just getting breathed on is a big risk. My respiratory health improves a lot in Thailand. I believe humidity is helping me a lot.