Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[PinkPearl]

You are the one who want to convince us that covered sex gives the same or even more agreeable sensations than uncovered sex. It's just untrue, period.

Actually if I recall I stated that Opebo may find BB sex feels better than condom sex. But to such I say that is because either they have not tried certain things, some of which I've already mentioned, to make condom sex feel as good as or better than BB, or their mind has programmed them to feel that way. You have already admitted that the latter is a possibility. As for the former, you have not addressed it at all.

If a sadist or a masochist has mental problems such that they get off and feel good being that way, I think that many who practice BB sex are not much different. Some of them have issues with women and want to hurt them. Hence no condom. Get them pregnant. Give them STDs. Fill them full of cum. Degrade them. Tell them BB or forget it and in so doing coerce them into putting themselves at risk. These guys would not enjoy sex with a condom. It has nothing to do with a condom per se causing sexual intercourse to be less pleasurable, but the problem is with their stinking thinking. I suggest that there are a number of mental issues besides misogyny that can lead men to demand BB sex and cause them to enjoy it more, while a normal person could discover that condom sex CAN be equally pleasurable, IF they know how to do it. The sick person, OTOH, might get help from AA, NA, GA, etc.

But as I've implied before, if you are like the vast majority of men who cum during genital intercourse in zero to twenty minutes, then you may never discover that condom sex can be just as good or better than BB. Especially so if you are unable to get pleasured by a woman or masterbating or both simultaneously to the point of ecstasy without cumming prior to genital intercourse. It typicly takes me an average of maybe 30 minutes to get to that point. Then after if I do not cum during sex, which is usually the way I want it, the next sexual encounter will be even more pleasurable.

I hope that clarifies some things for you and brings you up to date on this discussion. More later, as I have a very hot date to attend.

[M P Lurker]

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We talked about where he thought he had got it - and he said that he had always used condoms, when he was actively hunting in Pattaya, Sri Racha or Chonburi. No exception, always condom! --- But sometimes the condoms were broken, of course, shit happens. Bad luck. I asked about his Thai wife ... and he turned away and did not answer.
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Afterwards its hard to show who gave it to who. Its quite likely that he got it from the wife or else he is stretching the truth about his mongering.

My ex GF in Thailand insisted that both she and I get tested on a reasonably regular basis. I think its a good idea as "trust" is greatly over-rated.

[Giotto]

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[Goyave]

If as much as a handful of posters have expressed disagreement with my view and I am "alone", outnumbered five to one, so what? That is about as relevant as arguing that the the minority in Nazi Germany who opposed Hitler were relatively alone compared to the majority of the masses who followed his brainwashing and or madness.

Opebo beat me invoking the Godwin's law. Your argument here is absolutely irrelevant! And you were speaking about "apples and oranges" when I suggested that you caress a woman's hair with your hands wearing surgeon gloves?

And why should I stop saying that people can feel a certain way because of their thinking, like a claustrophibic person scared because he's in an elevator?

Apples and oranges (as you may say!). People don't feel what they feel because of "their thinking" in most sexual acts. You are the one who want to convince us that covered sex gives the same or even more agreeable sensations than uncovered sex. It's just untrue, period. I never read nor heard anybody apart you (even among safe sex advocates) saying such nonsense. Yes, protected sex is safer, but no, it doesn't feel the same nor better than uncovered sex. Come on! Do you put a condom on your dick for a wank? Unlikely!

My life may be at risk if Opebo has HIV and continues to do TGs without protection.

Why would your life be at risk if you practice safe sex and use lube and condoms? Instead of insisting with your allegations about sensations, you should focus on safe practices that include how to prevent condom failures.

Until you have tried all the things I have suggested to make condom sex feel as good or better than bareback, I would kindly suggest that your words are boxing with the air and farting into the wind.

Until I see you wanking with a condom... Again, I practice safe sex with women whom I don't know their HIV/STDs health status, don't be afraid, but not because it feels better, just because it's... safer! (It's called "safe sex" and not "better sex" for a reason, no?)

I compare what is comparable: same sexual act, covered (with lube or not) and uncovered, with people of comparable skills, and uncovered sex feels better in all cases, at least for me and for probably every other monger here apart you, PearlPink! Oh, yes... I almost forgot that's because we are a bunch of brainwashed Nazi supporters at ISG! But don't be afraid, I will certainly use a surgeon glove if one day I have to perform a DRE (digital rectal examination) on you. And I can already tell you that it would feel really good, at least at my side, but I am probably psychologically conditioned here!

But in the meanwhile, I have a little gift for you, PinkPearl: http://imagehoster.us/uploads/8187e728d6.jpg

Cheers,

G.

[Opebo]

Godwin's law, PinkP! But I suppose most people condemn barebackers at least as much as they do Nazis.

[PinkPearl]

Covered sex is safer. Nobody contests this fact. But as for "sensations being the same or even better with a condom", you are alone thinking alike, Pink Pearl. But, please, stop saying that all other people who don't share your point of view are "brainwashed" or psychologically conditioned to feel what they actually feel.

If as much as a handful of posters have expressed disagreement with my view and I am "alone", outnumbered five to one, so what? That is about as relevant as arguing that the the minority in Nazi Germany who opposed Hitler were relatively alone compared to the majority of the masses who followed his brainwashing and or madness.

And why should I stop saying that people can feel a certain way because of their thinking, like a claustrophibic person scared because he's in an elevator? My life may be at risk if Opebo has HIV and continues to do TGs without protection.

Until you have tried all the things I have suggested to make condom sex feel as good or better than bareback, I would kindly suggest that your words are boxing with the air and farting into the wind.

[PinkPearl]

30 days at Thailand, 8 differentet girls, and I think I got Mononucleosis.

I don't know why people don't speak about this too much, if you have not beeing infected by mono before, and you like kissing, I guess you have a 100% probabilty of catching it. And it's quite a nasty illness.

I like kissing and have kissed more hookers than that in Bangkok, plus just as many crack and or heroin addicted SWs in my home cuntry. And over five years and dozens, maybe hundreds, of hours of nothing but kissing, I have never contracted Mono, so maybe you were just very unlucky. Although I generally avoid tongue kissing, and keep my saliva to myself as much as possible with open mouth kissing and expect the lady to do so also.

Overly wet lips on her are not a pleasure for me, though I keep mine well oiled with lip balms, both flavored and medicated as a preventative. And of course keep it freshened with listerine, sugarless gum, and mints.

Recently a P4P TG told me Thai girls do not like to kiss. In my experience though it is easy to find TGs who are willing to do so, and they actually have kissed better than those mentioned above in Canada.

Just as no two ladies lick balls alike, no two women kiss the same. And if one is very particular or picky about how they want to do it, then they may have some difficulty finding the right girl for them. In BKK you can find everything in the range of those who will kiss only softly with their mouth closed to those who are into wild and crazy deep french slobering.

Personally I require something inbetween these two extremes. And often enjoy smooching for up to one or two hours at a time. This is too long for most ladies, as it would also be for most for genital intercourse. But to some TGs kissing is considered an easier form of work than sucking or fucking, so getting together with me can a nice break for them if all we do is kiss. Some claim to enjoy kissing and their actions seem to back that up, whereas others show that they are obviously not into it, so I quickly dump them if they are not good for anything else.

Of course avoid kissing or doing anything with anyone with obvious sores on their mouth, face, pussy, or asshole.

[Goyave]

Covered sex is safer. Nobody contests this fact. But as for "sensations being the same or even better with a condom", you are alone thinking alike, Pink Pearl. But, please, stop saying that all other people who don't share your point of view are "brainwashed" or psychologically conditioned to feel what they actually feel.

[M P Lurker]

Not with their 'boyfriends' (pimps), ML. In all seriousness the idea of a woman who never has actual sex is a kind of absurdity. Do any of you really believe such women exist?

The mongerman, sex provider, or even the sexually active adult who has not been exposed to HPV must be an great rarity.

A percentage of P4P girls are smart enough not to have any boyfriend leaching off them, believe it or not.

Classy Thai guys usually won't have a bar of a P4P girl, and she sometimes doesn't want to pick up a lousy BF who will just sponge off her.
Many P4P girls are getting plenty of sex and don't need any recreational sex as well. I don't know the percentages. Doing an accurate survey is obviously impossible.

Perhaps the number of P4Ps that have had HPV and already fully eliminated it might be a low percentage, if we were to assume that average length of time doing P4P was 3 years or less. But I don't know the average number of years.

Actually I don't know why I am talking about P4P, as non P4P girls having heaps of BB sex are at higher risk than P4Ps who use condoms. As you pointed out any sexually active adult.

Also that 50% of people getting it at some time might be a USA figure rather than Thailand figure. So I am starting to conceded that a high percentage currently having the HPV is vaguely possible. But 90% still stretches my imagination.

Anyway Opebo, don't be concerned. If you were ever going to get it, you would have had it long ago and may not have it any longer.

The rest of us using condoms are not going to be too worried about it either.

There is now a vaccination for girls and may well be one for men in the near future, or we can just get innoculated same as girls, but I seem to recall its expensive.
Gardasil I think its called.

[Opebo]

Now given that many high class P4P girls insist on condoms all the time...

Not with their 'boyfriends' (pimps), ML. In all seriousness the idea of a woman who never has actual sex is a kind of absurdity. Do any of you really believe such women exist?

The mongerman, sex provider, or even the sexually active adult who has not been exposed to HPV must be an great rarity.

[M P Lurker]

My doctor(good doctor at maybe best hospital in bkk) that from the issan sex workers he tests about 9 in 10 have hpv ......

I have to be sceptical of this figure.
I believe from, internet browsing, that 50% of sexually active people acquire HPV at some point in their lives, but 90% of people can eliminate it, through their own immune system, within 2 years.

Now given that many high class P4P girls insist on condoms all the time, and given that a fairly good percentage of those who have had it are already cured, it seems impossible that 9 out of ten tested can currently have it.

If you said 9 out of 10 P4Ps have had it at some point, I would find that more plausible.

It seems that longer term P4Ps may be actually less likely to have HPV if their immune system has already had enough time to eliminate it. Newbies with HPV are more likely to still have it.

[M P Lurker]

30 days at Thailand, 8 differentet girls, and I think I got Mononucleosis.

I don't know why people don't speak about this too much, if you have not beeing infected by mono before, and you like kissing, I guess you have a 100% probabilty of catching it. And it's quite a nasty illness.

Seems to be another name for "Glandular Fever".
Obviously we do not have a 100% probability of catching it, otherwise we all would have caught it already.
I have been kissing many girls for years and still do not have it,
or perhaps I have had it already without knowing and recovered. I did have a severe virus for several days 2-3 years back without knowing what it was (but no swollen glands to my knowledge), probably caught from a P4P girl.

Or maybe I have been lucky enough not to kiss a girl that is currently contagious with this virus.

Kissing is well known to be dangerous for catching various viruses from girls. Its generally significantly more dangerous than giving DATY for example.

[Vito Corleone]

I don't give a toss about any of this philosophizing about what feels better.

The topic, if I'm correct, is about Safe sex in Thailand.. maybe I read it wrong.

Then don't f**king reply

[Dardo]

30 days at Thailand, 8 differentet girls, and I think I got Mononucleosis.

I don't know why people don't speak about this too much, if you have not beeing infected by mono before, and you like kissing, I guess you have a 100% probabilty of catching it. And it's quite a nasty illness.

[PinkPearl]

I don't give a toss about any of this philosophizing about what feels better.

The topic, if I'm correct, is about Safe sex in Thailand.. maybe I read it wrong.

The point is that if I have HPV, warts, herpes, Hep C, or whatever, and go out and give it bareback to a few 100 girls, and especially the places I know that you frequent.. chances are you're gonna get a nice gift.

But this is the sort of behavior you're advocating..

So in the end do what you want to do.. or what you think feels better. Who cares?

To answer the question.

I guess one concern is that if those going BB are spreading disease, that is putting those who practice safe sex at greater risk. If the condom breaks, for example, and one picks up HIV, a death sentence, from a lady who would not have otherwise had HIV if some guy going bareback hadn't infected her.