Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[Syzygies]

When the counselor gives you the test results document, he or she always points out a form stating they will be doing further tests on your blood in the next week or two and will call you if they arrive at a different result. I have never gotten that call so I don't know what procedure they have done to conduct further testing. Is it possible that is when they do the RPR test and do the Treponemal test while you're waiting at the clinic for the sake of expediency?

Its unlikely you went there purely for Syphilis test, right? Therefore I wonder if the follow up test is for Syphilis or more likely for HIV.

For HIV, they have the follow-up amplification test, which is more expensive and takes more time to run. To save money they amplify a batch of samples together, e. G. Could be 100 samples (I don't know the optimal number maybe less in a batch). If that amplification batch proves negative for HIV, then all persons in the batch are in the clear. If positive, then they have to test smaller batches or eventually individual samples until discover which ones caused the positive. The complexity is the cause of the delay to get the final HIV result, but is more reliable and can detect HIV a much lower time after the person is exposed, maybe as little as a week. The initial 1 hour HIV test is not likely to discover persons exposed very recently if level of HIV is too low.

The chances that a person is HIV+ but passes the initial test are there, but probably incredibly low. Chances of passing it on if not detected are also probably extremely low. So regard the initial quick test as good enough evidence for those looking for reassurance. Some girls are paranoid about catching HIV and some are blasé.

[GuySexLife]

Go back and read my previous posts. I contracted Syphillis during one of my visits to Thailand last year. As far as is it common I think that can be debated. My Dr's told me that it was on the rise in Asia but others here state that it is rare and that they think it due to me having a weaker immune system.

I saw you contracted neurosyphilis. Did you have genital ulcer before having neurosyphilis? Did you recover?

I think it is because we live a stressful life that's why our immune is affected. Some folks on here live the good life. Many on here are not tourists. They enjoy their life everyday and never go back to a sex prison.

[EihTooms]

It's different, I use RPR for my patients. I use treponemal test for confirmation if rpr is positive.

When the counselor gives you the test results document, he or she always points out a form stating they will be doing further tests on your blood in the next week or two and will call you if they arrive at a different result. I have never gotten that call so I don't know what procedure they have done to conduct further testing. Is it possible that is when they do the RPR test and do the Treponemal test while you're waiting at the clinic for the sake of expediency?

[MongerForSex]

For those who have never been there, the first step for each visit to Thai Red Cross' testing clinic is to sit at a desktop computer and choose from a list of tests you'd like to be done that day. Based on the boxes you've checked you will receive a print out and a bill for the tests. One of the choices on that list of tests is for "Syphilis".

Then, when you get your test results document, it is stated as:
"Treponemal test CMIA/ECLIA"

Personally, I wish they would include the words "Spyhilis test" for that item on the results document as well. Without that being stated on there, anyone wanting to see my document has no idea what I have been tested for in that line entry and what exactly has been determined to be "Non Reactive". I mean, unless we sit there and do a Google Search on it I suppose. As long as it is being referred to as a "Syphilis test" in that list of options on the computer, I think it should say so on the results document too.

It's different, I use RPR for my patients. I use treponemal test for confirmation if rpr is positive.

[EihTooms]

What blood test do you use for Syphilis? I was unlucky I contracted tuberculosis at 12. I never had trouble with STDs. I did not even contcat molluscum contagiosum.

For those who have never been there, the first step for each visit to Thai Red Cross' testing clinic is to sit at a desktop computer and choose from a list of tests you'd like to be done that day. Based on the boxes you've checked you will receive a print out and a bill for the tests. One of the choices on that list of tests is for "Syphilis".

Then, when you get your test results document, it is stated as:
"Treponemal test CMIA/ECLIA"

Personally, I wish they would include the words "Syphilis test" for that item on the results document as well. Without that being stated on there, anyone wanting to see my document has no idea what I have been tested for in that line entry and what exactly has been determined to be "Non Reactive". I mean, unless we sit there and do a Google Search on it I suppose. As long as it is referred to as a "Syphilis test" in that list of options on the computer, I think it should say so on the results document too.

[MongerForSex]

Regarding it being common or not in Thailand, I can only relate my personal experience based on my getting a test for Syphilis (200 baht) along with a test for HIV (also 200 baht) every 1-2 months at Thai Red Cross for the past 6+ years. And all while engaging in BBFS with hundreds of different women in virtually all possible P4P options. I have not shown a positive test result for either in all that time after all those sessions. However, I have no idea if it was and is common among the women I have had sex with and I just never contracted it.

I also should say I have never tested positive for any STD in my life and I have been tested for just about everything important several times over the years. Maybe my immune system is working extremely well compared to others. Or I have just been lucky. Or I somehow manage to choose well and take care not to exacerbate or increase risk by engaging in a style of fucking that is more likely to cause bacteria/virus welcoming abrasions and opportunities to infect. Who knows. Then again, my personal experiences with a lot of issues don't jive with many things I read from other posters on this site.

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What blood test do you use for Syphilis? I was unlucky I contracted tuberculosis at 12. I never had trouble with STDs. I did not even contcat molluscum contagiosum.

[CzarNicholas]

As a dermatologist / infectologist, I would say.

Truvada is a medicine to prevent hiv from HIV negative people.

Truvada is also a medicine to treat HIV. It must be used together with other medicines for hiv positive people. Truvada is more often used in Gay community.

Serious side effect.

Worsen hepatitis and some other viral diseases if you have.

Truvada may cause sever liver problem, sever kidney problem, sever bone problem, too much lactid and acid in your blood, changes in your immune system, it may affect some types of immune system.

I never advise straight people to use truvada just to protect from HIV. I still advise people to use condom to protect themselves from other STDs. Fucking a girl is low risk for hiv, to me, it's zero risk.

As you can see, the risk for giving oral sex is like having vaginal sex. 1 per 2500 exposures.

Forget truvada and use condom to protect yourselves from stds and pregnancy. There was a study done in san francisco, it was proved straight men can't get hiv from women.

But yes you can get HIV from a female, if you like fucking them in the ass.

Realmenneveroverpay#.

[EihTooms]

I would like to know if syphilis is common in Thailand?
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Regarding it being common or not in Thailand, I can only relate my personal experience based on my getting a test for Syphilis (200 baht) along with a test for HIV (also 200 baht) every 1-2 months at Thai Red Cross for the past 6+ years. And all while engaging in BBFS with hundreds of different women in virtually all possible P4P options. I have not shown a positive test result for either in all that time after all those sessions. However, I have no idea if it was and is common among the women I have had sex with and I just never contracted it.

I also should say I have never tested positive for any STD in my life and I have been tested for just about everything important several times over the years. Maybe my immune system is working extremely well compared to others. Or I have just been lucky. Or I somehow manage to choose well and take care not to exacerbate or increase risk by engaging in a style of fucking that is more likely to cause bacteria/virus welcoming abrasions and opportunities to infect. Who knows. Then again, my personal experiences with a lot of issues don't jive with many things I read from other posters on this site.

And, yes, I realize there is always a bigger, scarier, invulnerable, unstoppable, boogeyman monster disease or malady lurking right around the corner or stomping down a dark hall on its way to destroy me and the rest of the world any minute. That has been the story for everything related to sex since I was 7 years old and first heard about the birds and the bees back in my Catholic school playground. This lovely story has never changed, just the name of the monster. So maybe that monster stomping down that very long hall will indeed eventually grab me in the dark and eat me alive someday after all. Whatever.

YMMV, of course.

[MongerForSex]

I would like to know if syphilis is common in Thailand? Any of you already caught syphilis? I only hear about HSV, HIV, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea on this website. I heard we need to wait 3 months maximum to develop a penile syphilis ulcer unlike other stds where Symptoms happen quickly. I have only mongered in Brazil and Mexico but I plan to monger in Thailand next year.

3 months is too much for syphilis to show up. 3 weeks is the maximum. You can have rpr test. But as long as you have no symptom (beautiful painless ulcer, clean, round, indurated, nut purulent. , no need to get tested. If you have these symptoms, you may still test negative because many conditions can cause the same genital ulcers). Most people with tertiary syphilis or neurosyphilis never noticed they had an ulcer or typical syphilis rash. Tertiary syphilis is very rare, most people with untreated syphilis never develop tertiary syphilis. You are more likely to develop neurosyphilis in early stages. Your body can clear syphilis overtime. No std is supermutant, it's always about immune system.

Most people with active tb have negative blood test for TB. Most people with latent tb are less likely to develop active tb. You are more likely to develop TB in the first years. Latent syphilis and Latent TB are the same things, the only difference is TB is more dangerous and that's is difficult to cure or even impossible to cure with antibiotics.

[Crocodilexp]

I would like to know if syphilis is common in Thailand? I heard we need to wait 3 months maximum to develop a penile syphilis ulcer unlike other stds where Symptoms happen quickly.

A syphilis test is super-simple and can be done in an hour along with an HIV test at the Red Cross place near Lumphini park.

[MongerForSex]

This is a very important question, because you CANNOT take the prophylactic if you are HIV positive. You can only take it if your're negative.

As a dermatologist/infectologist, I would say.

Truvada is a medicine to prevent hiv from HIV negative people.

Truvada is also a medicine to treat HIV. It must be used together with other medicines for hiv positive people. Truvada is more often used in Gay community.

Serious side effect.

Worsen hepatitis and some other viral diseases if you have.

Truvada may cause sever liver problem, sever kidney problem, sever bone problem, too much lactid and acid in your blood, changes in your immune system, it may affect some types of immune system.

I never advise straight people to use truvada just to protect from HIV. I still advise people to use condom to protect themselves from other STDs. Fucking a girl is low risk for hiv, to me, it's zero risk.

As you can see, the risk for giving oral sex is like having vaginal sex. 1 per 2500 exposures.

Forget truvada and use condom to protect yourselves from stds and pregnancy. There was a study done in san francisco, it was proved straight men can't get hiv from women.

[Roaming Rob 1]

I would like to know if syphilis is common in Thailand? Any of you already caught syphilis? I only hear about HSV, HIV, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea on this website. I heard we need to wait 3 months maximum to develop a penile syphilis ulcer unlike other stds where Symptoms happen quickly. I have only mongered in Brazil and Mexico but I plan to monger in Thailand next year.

Go back and read my previous posts. I contracted Syphillis during one of my visits to Thailand last year. As far as is it common I think that can be debated. My Dr's told me that it was on the rise in Asia but others here state that it is rare and that they think it due to me having a weaker immune system.

[GuySexLife]

I would like to know if syphilis is common in Thailand? Any of you already caught syphilis? I only hear about HSV, HIV, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea on this website. I heard we need to wait 3 months maximum to develop a penile syphilis ulcer unlike other stds where Symptoms happen quickly. I have only mongered in Brazil and Mexico but I plan to monger in Thailand next year.

[Houston Player]

Do you remember the name of the drug (since you did the research)? That could clear up any confusion on whether it could be used as a pre-exposure prophylactic, or only for treatment of an HIV infection.

This is a very important question, because you CANNOT take the prophylactic if you are HIV positive. You can only take it if your're negative.

[Crocodilexp]

I have seen and held, in my hands, antiretroviral drugs used daily by a current Tulip girl. At the time, I didn't know what they were, until I did some research. She said that they reduce the risks of her contracting HIV.

Do you remember the name of the drug (since you did the research)? That could clear up any confusion on whether it could be used as a pre-exposure prophylactic, or only for treatment of an HIV infection.