Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[ChiMan II]

Erik,

I doubt you got that from the towels. But you answered a question I often wondered about. Can we catch STD's from girls even with a condom on by just letting our pubis touch. I guess the answer is yes. I bet that girl had an open sore around her vaginal area that you did not see but it came in contact around your pubic area. I was always cautious on Thai woman who always try to do everything in the dark. I always wonder what they dont want me to see? Please let us know how your condition turns out or at least private message me because I am aways trying to learn more ways to stay safe.

Thank you and I will you luck with your condition.

[Erik]

And... I have no way to recall which girl offered me this chrismas present.

[Erik]

I always wear condom. I have 3 small blisters on the pubis, not the organs. Apparently it could also come from hotel towels...

[ChiMan II]

Erik,

Please tell us. When you got this std. Did you wear a condom? Did you see anything out of the ordinary when you looked at the girls vaginal area. I did post on a previous post about some things I have seen that scared me.

[Joe Zop]

Erik -- left you a response in the general Safe Sex area.

[Erik]

Is this section only for AIDS, or can we speak about other STDs ?
Has any of you ever get a "moluscum contagium" ? This is a kind of little shits that have been growing on my pubic (not the organs so far) and can become red and itching. According to the doctor I have seen in this Pattaya hosptital, it is not very serious but quite persistent and contagious. So I got that from one of the cuties here... He suggests a curage but I have not yet decided what to do. Ii seems that cream is not very efficient. Any experience of that ? Thanks.

[Wilsafris]

HI

I completely understand that HIV can be undetected in most humans up to 6 months. I completely understand the ramifications of having sex, unprotected, or protected with a working girl. However, i do take issue that Orasure is a fly by night biotech company. These products are made in the USA and Orasure is a publicly traded company on the NASDAQ and Orasure is a FDA approved product. For more info on Orasure, look up the stock symbol OSUR. The Oral Test requires a swab of the inside of the cheek. It is a simple test, and quick and 99 percent effective.

Of course, by testing someone, there is always the risk they have HIV and the test will come back negative because of the 6 month window. However, it gives ME more sense of security.

This board is for the passing of information. Everything I have stated about Orasure is true. Finding Orasure in BKK might be very important to some people. Research the company and be happy there is such a product on the market : )

[Seydlitz]

Wilsafris, ChiMan,

these Oral HIV Testing Kits are excellent tools for testing only one thing: how gullible one can be.

The connection between HIV and AIDS is way more complex than what most people seem to believe, and those tests, or any such test, are after antibodies to HIV, not HIV itself anyway.

If one is afraid of HIV, then one should refrain from partaking in high-risk behaviors, like unprotected sex with working girls, or any stranger for that matter.

Screening those one-night-stands using whatever method shady biothech companies can persuade you of buying makes no sense at all.

[ChiMan II]

Wilsafris,

I like your idea. The only downside to the test is sometimes the HIV hides in the system and they might come out negative now but six months from now turn up positive. Some people might not want to believe this but I discussed this topic a doctor.

[Wilsafris]

Dear fellow Mongers:

I have found where to buy Orasure Oral HIV Testing Kits in BKK for 2500 Baht for a box of 25 kits. The company name is Asia Pacific Biotech and the contact email for the company is: Supasorn--supasorn at brianet.com.

I contacted Supasorn and he responded to me in one day and also sent a map. I am attaching the map, however, with the size limitations, it may be impossible to read. I am sure if anyone is interested they can contact Supasorn for a detailed map of where to buy this product.

I will be in BKK in January and I am looking for weekly GFE and I really prefer testing the girls. These test kits are less than USD3 a piece and are 99 percent effective.

Anyways, I hope you find this information helpful and informative.

Thanks,

Wil

[Opebo]

Joe Zop,

Jumping from a building is not an apt comparison since the risk is so small compared to that. Yes, sensation matters, but the reason it is worth the risk is only partially because sensation is a value - it is also because the risk is so tiny. So I stand by the statement 'My behavior isn't really risky', because the risk is statistically so remote that concern about it is a absurd. I might as well waste my time worrying about slipping in the shower.

Seydlitz,

Though I have nothing new to contribute on the rather low hiv prevalency rates in Thailand and Cambodia, here's a very recent article about the dubious nature of the African statistics -

http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php3?table=old&section=current&issue=2003-12-13&id=3830

[Seydlitz]

Joe,

jumping from the top of a building kinda hurt every time, even if landing in water. Ouch !

[Joe Zop]

Opebo, ah, now we've gotten to the crux of the matter -- it really doesn't matter to you what the risk factors happen to be because it's all about maximum sensation. Fair enough, if that's your decision, and I will of course admit there is some degree of diminishing of sensation wearing condoms, though the newer ultra thin ones do help in that regard. I don't happen to agree that it means total lack of sensation -- I've gotten tons of enjoyment out of sex with a rubber, and that slight decrease of sensation also means I can go on forever.

But the bottom line is that there's a big difference between going around and saying, "I don't really care -- I want it to feel this way regardless of the consequences" and saying, "My behavior really isn't risky." If you want to be a daredevil and aren't doing anything illegal, then it's your choice, but telling people it's always ok to jump from the top of a building because it's fun and because you personally have always landed in water is simply misleading and irresponsible.


Well said, Freeler, as always, and that's good news on Issan.

[Freeler]

Joe_zop, Seydlitz,

I saw plenty condomvendingmachines, B5 per condom, in Isaan last summer.
Every pro I was with had her own supply of rubbers, and I saw Navy boys showing their rubbers to other navy boys on the bus.
'Sai tum' was probably the phrase I heard the most!
Those are very good signs.

Opebo,

I tried to edit the post you are referring to, but I accidently deleted it, an old habbit. I planned to spice it up a bit, but reading your reply it would have been a total waste of time.
If the girls you choose can't give you the real feeling because of condoms, choose better!

But hey, if your sex is to die for, I prefer sex to live for.

[Seydlitz]

Joe Zop:

I guess there is little benefit in debating on this: increase in condom use is a good thing, the general health is improving, and the dreadful indicator (HIV infection) goes in the right direction.

Let's not spoil that warm feeling by suspecting God knows what inaccuracy ...