Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[Breadman]

There are some European condom companies that will ship it internationally for a fee (might be expensive). Do a Google search on Pasante Unique and you will find many links to explore. I have been searching for a condom with a flange on the base for extra protection, so I might do that myself. The fact that it is extra strong and also thin for sensation is a bonus.

I have been researching the Unique condoms and found they are manufactured in Colombia. I found their web site and I see that in Colombia they have a couple of different versions. The one that interests me the most is the Unique Free.

http://en.condomcard.com/product/unique-free/

"This condom has a ring on the base for fast and easy posture. The pubic areas are covered, providing greater protection and preventing the spread of many infections transmitted through bodily fluids. ".

Here is a video showing the Unique Free, with the wide flange at the base that covers the pubic area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kUYHaCgG8

Here is another video showing testing of the Unique condoms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6bG4Y-IgE4

I haven't yet been able to find a source for these. I tried to buy one online from Colombia, but the site wasn't set up for international shipping.

All the condoms in your video links are the Unique condoms that don't have a ring at the base. Look at your video's again, all show a base that balloons out without a rubber band around the base. Then compare your video's to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxjEixxjtIY Also note that there's no pubic area coverage, those pull down sides don't adhere to anything and flap to the wind.

You can easily find the Unique condoms from your video's on any website, its the Unique Pulls that are impossible to find (from my video). I'm wondering if its because installing a band around the base was too expensive?

[John Dough]

I had read about the Pasante Unique, but when I was last looking I couldn't find a source of supply.

There are some European condom companies that will ship it internationally for a fee (might be expensive). Do a Google search on Pasante Unique and you will find many links to explore. I have been searching for a condom with a flange on the base for extra protection, so I might do that myself. The fact that it is extra strong and also thin for sensation is a bonus.

I have been researching the Unique condoms and found they are manufactured in Colombia. I found their web site and I see that in Colombia they have a couple of different versions. The one that interests me the most is the Unique Free.

http://en.condomcard.com/product/unique-free/

"This condom has a ring on the base for fast and easy posture. The pubic areas are covered, providing greater protection and preventing the spread of many infections transmitted through bodily fluids. ".

Here is a video showing the Unique Free, with the wide flange at the base that covers the pubic area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kUYHaCgG8

Here is another video showing testing of the Unique condoms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6bG4Y-IgE4

I haven't yet been able to find a source for these. I tried to buy one online from Colombia, but the site wasn't set up for international shipping.

[FL Hawk]

Problem with any condom made in Japan is the size issue, even the large just don't feel comfortable. The extra feeling from wearing a thin condom is lost if your forcing yourself into one too small.

I am pretty much average in size, including girth, and the condoms I mentioned gave me no trouble. If you are larger in size, I can see that they might. I really don't recall how stretchy they are, but I do believe they are less elastic than latex.

I had read about the Pasante Unique, but when I was last looking I couldn't find a source of supply.

[John Dough]

The Unique Pull from the video and the sales link is something I'd like to try out but not for the amount they are selling them. They are almost identical to the pasante unique condoms but the pasante don't have the pull tabs that come away after you've put it on. You can find the Pasante Unique's for roughly a buck a condom which is more affordable than the Pull's. The issue with the Pasante's is there's no rubber band at the base to keep the condom in place, its held in place by a shrink wrap design when the heat of the sex shrinks the condom.

The Pasante Unique is folded, not rolled. That makes it crinkly on application. Supposedly body heat will smooth it out in time. Maybe it should be warmed up with a hair blow dryer after application, like shrink wrap. The flared end at the base could potentially give added coverage to the base of the penis and the pubic area to increase protection against skin to skin transmitted diseases like herpes and warts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvyOE1nDcJI

It is 60 mm wide, which is only slightly wider than the Sagami large at 58 mm. There was once another condom similar to the Pasante Unique, but 70 mm wide. It was called the eZ-on but is no longer in production.

[Breadman]

The Sagami 0.01 is actually 0.018 mm thick and their 0.02 original is 0.024 mm thick. They have a 0.02 premium that is 0.022 mm. I don't know if a large size is available in the 0.01 or 0.02 premium. There is another brand that is even thinner at 0.015 mm thick, the Unique Pull, also called the Condom Card, since three condoms are packaged in a credit card size container that you can carry in your wallet. It is shipped internationally and is made from polyethylene resin, that is odorless, 3x stronger AND 3x thinner than latex condoms. It is 60 mm wide, which should fit westerners better.

Problem with any condom made in Japan is the size issue, even the large just don't feel comfortable. The extra feeling from wearing a thin condom is lost if your forcing yourself into one too small.

The Unique Pull from the video and the sales link is something I'd like to try out but not for the amount they are selling them. They are almost identical to the pasante unique condoms but the pasante don't have the pull tabs that come away after you've put it on. You can find the Pasante Unique's for roughly a buck a condom which is more affordable than the Pull's. The issue with the Pasante's is there's no rubber band at the base to keep the condom in place, its held in place by a shrink wrap design when the heat of the sex shrinks the condom. Instructions advise to wipe off your dick with a towel if the girl just gave you a BBBJ. The Pasante Unique's size is 0. 015 which makes it slightly thinner than the sagami. The pro's are they feel better than having to force your dick into a tiny condom, the con's are you've got to make sure it stays put.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pasante-Uniq.../dp/B000XRZSWA

[John Dough]

Some guys swear by special Japanese polyurethane condoms that do not stretch as having good feeling for sex. Sagami / Origami whatever I forget exact name.

The thin polyurethane condoms are made by Sagami and Okamato. Sagami makes a large size of their 0.02 mm original that might fit westerners better, since it is 58 mm wide instead of 54 mm for the original. This material is like a plastic bag and has no stretch. If you want to try out a thicker version before ordering online, just go to your local pharmacy and buy Trojan Supra, also called BareSkin. The Trojan is much thicker at 0.04 mm and only 54 mm wide but you'll get an idea of the polyurethane material.

The Sagami 0.01 is actually 0.018 mm thick and their 0.02 original is 0.024 mm thick. They have a 0.02 premium that is 0.022 mm. I don't know if a large size is available in the 0.01 or 0.02 premium. There is another brand that is even thinner at 0.015 mm thick, the Unique Pull, also called the Condom Card, since three condoms are packaged in a credit card size container that you can carry in your wallet. It is shipped internationally and is made from polyethylene resin, that is odorless, 3x stronger AND 3x thinner than latex condoms. It is 60 mm wide, which should fit westerners better.

Here is a video showing the Unique Pull:

http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-b...t-card-package

Here is an article about thin condoms:

http://www.condom-sizes.org/thinnest...innest-condoms

The Origami condom is a new silicone condom that is not yet in production. It is folded instead of rolled and has a flange at the base for extra coverage and protection from STDs. It was invented by an American. It is a thick condom, but extra sensation is delivered by it being lubricated on the inside so the penis slides against the silicone material.

[Syzygies]

Point of my post: The bar did not educate her on STD, or STI's. So I don't expect them to be pushing condom use. And Careful with the fresh off the farm beauties.

Many girls still have very weak knowledge concerning contraception and STDs. They spend huge time playing on facebook instead of researching more important issues on the internet.

[Syzygies]

Its usually acceptable as less of a risk by many, its like many people speak differently as they find BBBJ a less of risk.

I like the idea of shower before and after and condom usage but does anyone try or know of other safe sex stuff which doesn't feel like living in a bunker around WW.

Its generally accepted that BBBJ is far less risky for the man in catching any type of STDs, and HIV from this unheard of and very hard to prove. Chlamydia is possible but much lower risk than from BBFS (I caught it once from BBBJ presumably). DATY is also far less risky than BBFS. BB anal is considered highly risky.

Other advantage is that girl cannot get pregnant if sperm not in pussy.

Some guys swear by special Japanese polyurethane condoms that do not stretch as having good feeling for sex. Sagami / Origami whatever I forget exact name.

[KingOfMan]

Now I usually do not go for BB FS and I take this seriously but what do you guys think about BB BJ?

Its usually acceptable as less of a risk by many, its like many people speak differently as they find BBBJ a less of risk.

I like the idea of shower before and after and condom usage but does anyone try or know of other safe sex stuff which doesn't feel like living in a bunker around WW.

Regards,

Kingofman.

[Mogwai]

I have used the. 02 as well as the origami. 01 condom. I got both off eBay, with the. 01's costing about $5 each.

If you cannot afford the origami you might consider Wingman condoms. They are not cheap either (almost 1/$1. 12 a piece) but they are a new concept and much easier to put on than other condoms. If you always have difficulties putting on a condom because you have a big dick for example or are just clumsy you should try these condoms. Putting them on is really much easier.

They also claim their condoms give a more natural feel but I did not experience any difference with other ultrathin condoms.

There is one con however: at the time being they are only available in Europe.

[FL Hawk]

Hi,

Does anybody know when and where the new origami condom is (or will) be available?

I have used the. 02 as well as the origami. 01 condom. I got both off eBay, with the. 01's costing about $5 each. The. 02's are maybe $2 or so. I don't remember. Both are superior to the regular styles sold in the US that claim to be like wearing nothing at all, which is a BS claim. I have never been able to do a real-time comparison between BB and using either of these condoms, but I am quite impressed. There is a big difference! One time I was using. 02 and the girl kept feeling me down there wondering if I had slipped the condom off. She said that she could always tell when a man was wearing a condom but this time, she couldn't and was scared it had broken. She was so impressed she kept the wrapper and planned to order some to use with her clients. I have used the. 01 several times and they are even more natural feeling. They are very thin, but seem to be very strong.

I would think that those of you who have difficulties with regular condoms would find these super thin styles to most helpful. The girls can certainly tell the difference!

If you can afford the. 01's, I highly recommend them. Or use regular condoms when you want to last longer, and the. 02's or. 01's when you want the most sensitivity.

And I agree with the comment below that condoms only protect what they cover. The safest way to prevent the spread of diseases when mongering is for both you and the girl to wash down there with soap and hot water just prior to having sex, then to wash thoroughly again immediately after following after each act of sex. The idea is to eliminate surface germs (bacteria and viruses) that may be on the skin from an existing infection at the beginning, then to again wash away any germs that managed to cross over during sex.

Also, a visual inspection down there can turn up signs of an existing disease. If you see bumps, it might be HPV, and you don't want to be messing around down there. They can be difficult to get rid off. And, of course, if you see any sores, see any yellowish stuff or smell anything bad, take a pass.

[Wolvenvacht]

And you would have to blacklist all of the WGs as well, everywhere in Thailand.

And not only in Thailand.

It is all a matter of risk management. If you want zero risk, you have to stay in your mom's basement, only watch internet porn and play with Widow Thumb and her 4 daughters. And don't forget to wash your hands before and after.

Since I do not want to forego my mongering hobby, I take the next best option: covered sex. For both my, her and your safety.

[Wolvenvacht]

Condoms can only protect you so much.

Indeed, but that doesn't mean one should forego the protection it does provide. Whichever way you look at it: covered sex is ALWAYS less risky than uncovered sex.

[Wolvenvacht]

In such a situation, no matter what you argue, people will invariably exercise their free choice in private in the way they think is appropriate and nothing that we say or do will change that.

Actually Thailand is the perfect example to prove that repeated and continued education works. Once Thailand was one of the worst countries in respect of HIV infections.

Then Thailand started a country-wide campaign of educating the people about the dangers of unprotected sex and after a while that really worked and the HIV infection rate fell.

Sadly, the subsidies to these educational campaigns have been reduced since more money is now spent on anti-HIV medication and one sees a resurgence of the infection rate. The sex industry has a quick turn around of workers, so the education should never stop. Unfortunately there is only so much money to go around and education got the short straw.

Exactly for that reason, a responsible monger should not insist or even think of going bare.

[Mogwai]

Some very good logic. For the members who wish to practice safe sex it is up to you not up to the girls. If you choose to blacklist a shop because of unsafe sex then I am sorry but you would have to blacklist all the shops in lower Sukomvit, soi 24, soi 26 and so on.

And you would have to blacklist all of the WGs as well, everywhere in Thailand.

I admit: I like to BB. Usually I ask the girls upfront, before I take them to my hotel, if they are willing to BB. But sometimes I just want a girl no matter if she barebacks or not. And then I ask it once we are in my room or even during the session. Most of these girls insist on condom use initially and I respect that. However most of the time I cannot keep it up and / or finish when I use a condom. You would be surprised to know how many of these girls offer me BB when they notice this. I have never counted them but I think it's something like 25% of them.

I guess this is another reason for many guys to use condoms LOL!