Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[PinkPearl]

The term "safe sex" is used in reference to STIs but also pregnancy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_sex

When it comes to avoiding pregnancy or birth control, men have fewer options than women.

Popular methods for male contraception are condoms, withdrawal or pulling out (coitus interruptus) and vasectomy.

For those interested in other or additional ways of protecting against knocking up a TG and or less invasive painful surgery, there are various possibilities worth considering:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_contraceptive

For example gossypol which can not only lower risk of impregnating a female per sex act but also lead to permanent infertility:

"Researchers have suggested gossypol might make a good noninvasive alternative to surgical vasectomy".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossypol

The risk of a guy causing a baby to be made lessens with older age & many other factors like diet. Even drinking coffee, the use of cannabis & tobacco & the proximity of cell phones has had some studies done suggesting correlations in this regard:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen_quality

It has been suggested that BPA, which is found in canned foods, is also linked to low sperm quantity & quality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A

In the event of a pregnancy occuring, its termination is possible for a TG to obtain for only around 2000 baht.

As working ladies generally have many partners, it is likely she has no idea or certainly no proof of whom the father is, even if she is telling the truth about her condition. Over 95 percent of them also have Thai BFs, many of whom they are doing BB with, who is also likely shooting inside her, regardless of what she may tell you.

To prove who the father is would require waiting till after birth and doing tests on both the child & the alleged father.

Men do not as of yet have a pill they can easily pop or a shot they can get for this purpose. It's the responsibility of TGs to be on the pill or using another form of birth control.

[PinkPearl]

I wonder if it's any use if you and the girl take 1000 mg valacyclovir three hours before hopping into bed for a night of sex. There's little literature on herpes prophylaxis. Valacyclovir has few side-effects. It's worth a try if you have to bareback. L-Lysine is also supposed to have some effect in slowing down viral replication and it is free of side-effects. That doesn't solve the gono problem though.

On another note, is it at all possible in Thailand to bed good-looking girls whose men are few and far between? I'm planning to retire there, not just for the pussy of course, but if having BB sex is near impossible without ending up catching something for which there's no cure.

It is possible in Thailand or anywhere else to not catch HIV. Just practice safe sex if it worries you & like all of us you have to leave the rest to your lucky stars. Hire the Bangkok private eye to check out your girl's history, if you think it will help. But non hookers have almost as high a rate of HIV in LOS as venued P4P gals. If you want a safer bet, try Canada or Iceland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_sex

[AussieDoug]

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On another note, is it at all possible in Thailand to bed good-looking girls whose men are few and far between? I'm planning to retire there, not just for the pussy of course, but if having BB sex is near impossible without ending up catching something for which there's no cure.

It's very possible, but you hve to look outside the bar area, most thai women girls would never go to the bar areas. Identify yourself as a resident, visit the bedding section of department stores, and the women there will be happy to help. One took me by the hand and led me around the store, she was not too bad looking either, but I had a 20yo back in the apartment.

[Phordphan]

On another note, is it at all possible in Thailand to bed good-looking girls whose men are few and far between? I'm planning to retire there, not just for the pussy of course, but if having BB sex is near impossible without ending up catching something for which there's no cure .

It's very possible, but you won't find them working in a bar.

Despite the cynicism on display in many of these threads, you'll find that most Thai women aren't hookers and have never darkened the door of a P4P establishment. I can't speak for the younger generation, but all of the ladies I've met in the late 30s-and-up range have had a shockingly low number of sex partners.

But there ain't no free lunch. It's going to take some sort of commitment. They may let you off the leash on occasion, but Thai women can be incredibly jealous.

[PinkPearl]

Any extended rubbing with soap, whether the usual brief hand-job in a normal soapy in the bath-tub or the body-to-body rubbing in one of these unusual ones that have a mattress, is hazardous to your skin. It feels good at first, but one should allow no more than a perhaps thirty seconds of such rubbing. Oil is better for the skin, soap is highly damaging.

Not using soap as a lube for all types of sex is sex ed 100 or 101, basic stuff. But maybe it should be mentioned here as evidently some people skipped class.

Coconut oil is longlasting, may be fragrant (TGs love the smell) , anti viral, anti bacterial, moisturizes the penis, is beneficial to the vaginal area & acts as an STI barrier.

Of course any oil should not to be used with a plastic baggy.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...8010351AAftabA

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...6141045AANBqWE

https://sg.answers.yahoo.com/questio...3141900AAaIlTD

[XXL]

In Thailand bareback BJ is standard. That is the problem. If you look at the working girls lips over there cold sores are extremely common. Which is herpes. I saw some of the girls that stand in front of Nana plaza and some had cold sores on top of cold sores because of doing this for years and being with to many men.

I wonder if it's any use if you and the girl take 1000 mg valacyclovir three hours before hopping into bed for a night of sex. There's little literature on herpes prophylaxis. Valacyclovir has few side-effects. It's worth a try if you have to bareback. L-Lysine is also supposed to have some effect in slowing down viral replication and it is free of side-effects. That doesn't solve the gono problem though.

On another note, is it at all possible in Thailand to bed good-looking girls whose men are few and far between? I'm planning to retire there, not just for the pussy of course, but if having BB sex is near impossible without ending up catching something for which there's no cure ....

[Darmstadter]

Also why would I care about unmarried 45 to 50 year old "middle aged non-pro American women". I've never had sex with such a hideous creature in my life & don't ever intend to.

Amen to that!

[PinkPearl]

HSV-2 is higher among women and in underdeveloped countries than the world average. Unless you have some proof that the prevalence among non-pro Thai women (since, again, we're talking about Thai women) is "20%" as you said, I'll continue to doubt it. Especially since, as I've now quoted here twice, the prevalence rate of HSV-2 even among middle aged non-pro American women is between 50 and 70 percent.

First of all, it's a no brainer that the rate of genital herpes is way less common amongst non pros than pros.

Secondly, my original comment didn't mention Thailand or Thai women.

Also why would I care about unmarried 45 to 50 year old "middle aged non-pro American women". I've never had sex with such a hideous creature in my life & don't ever intend to.

Even if your figure for them is accurate, what does it have to do with non pro Thai women? It would show that HSV-2 rates can vary widely by specific groups of the adult population, just like as in my original example of hookers vs non P4P.

Obviously an older 50 year old USA female is more likely to have had more sex sessions & more sex partners than an 18 year old. Consequently she is also much more likely to have contracted STIs like genital herpes.

If you want to greatly reduce the risk of having horrible ugly painful sores on your dick regularly for the rest of your life, you might want to avoid hookers or take other precautions vs genital herpes. Up to you.

"remember that being HSV-2 positive, even without symtpoms, at least doubles a person's risk of acquiring HIV if sexually exposed to it."

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/he...on/show/248614

If you are interested in not passing genital herpes & or HIV onto others, then you might want to get yourself tested for these STI. If you are found positive, there are preventative measures you can take so that your sex partners are significantly less likely to get your disease.

Your "general population" comment don't mean much. It's like when they divvy up the GDP of the US and say the average income in the States is $50, 000 a year. Of course more than a hundred million people there make much less than that.

It means one is far safer from getting "genital herpes" with the general population than with hookers, even hookers that religiously use condoms. If you can find a virgin like some Japanese sex tourists seek, then you will probably be even safer.

"The prevalence of HSV-2 was 4. 8 percent in sexually active adults. 60 percent in sex workers."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17062037

"Asia (including Australia) Studies have been conducted in Hong Kong [66], Japan [67, 68], Thailand [71, 72], Australia [61–63], and New Zealand [69, 70] (table 1). There is a relative paucity of data on HSV-2 prevalence in non–high-risk populations in Asia. HSV-2 prevalence tended to be lower than in other areas of the world, with the possible exceptions of Thailand [71, 72] and Australia [61–63]. In two Japanese studies, age-specific HSV-2 prevalence was low (<7 percent in all age groups) [67, 68]. These estimates are lower than in women of similar ages in the Philippines (9 percent) [7] and in antenatal Australian patients (15 percent) [63]. Although still relatively low, other Japanese studies found higher HSV-2 prevalence (e. G. 15 percent among older female clinic attendees from Osaka [mean age. 49 years] and 17 percent among pregnant women from Kagoshima [mean age. 29 years]) [68]. In Sydney, HSV-2 prevalence among a large sample of antenatal clinic attendees (mean age. 28 years) was 11 percent [61]"

With "populations with evidence of higher risk sexual behavior and in STI clinic attendees, the prevalence of HSV-2 infection was consistently higher than in non–high-risk populations."

The "HSV-2 seropositivity was consistently high among young CSWs elsewhere: Thailand (76%; mean age. 24 years)."

http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/conten...ment_1/S3.long

[Rick Rock]

No.

HSV-2 is higher among women and in underdeveloped countries than the world average. Unless you have some proof that the prevalence among non-pro Thai women (since, again, we're talking about Thai women) is "20%" as you said, I'll continue to doubt it. Especially since, as I've now quoted here twice, the prevalence rate of HSV-2 even among middle aged non-pro American women is between 50 and 70 percent.

Your "general population" comment don't mean much. It's like when they divvy up the GDP of the US and say the average income in the States is $50, 000 a year. Of course more than a hundred million people there make much less than that.

[PinkPearl]

Huh (again)?

HSV-1 and HSV-2 can both show up in either place

True, but combined rates for both are not limited to the subject, which was "genital herpes".

Therefore the rate you quoted was not applicable.

Clear now?

[Rick Rock]

Huh (again)?

HSV-1 and HSV-2 can both show up in either place, both can be spread by contact (of skin, genitals, mouth).

The WORLDWIDE prevalence rate of herpes is around 80, with higher numbers among women and people in the underdeveloped countries. We are talking about Thai women.

If you look at HSV-2 exclusively it's a bit lower in some parts of the population (western people, especially older. The population in most of the west is very aged, complete opposite of the underdeveloped countries). But even then not necessarily, as I quoted the esteemed doctor before:

"So if you look at some population-based data in the United States and look at unmarried adults, meaning folks between the ages of 45 and 50, for women, we know the prevalence rate for genital herpes due to HSV-2 is between 50 and 70 percent. So we’re looking at close to the majority or the majority of folks in that age group who are single having genital herpes."

Luckily herpes is pretty much meaningless, like getting pimples. Most people have one form or another (even though up to 80% of infected people will never show symptoms) and it causes no serious damage. It's common, it's been with human beings for centuries, and it's impossible to avoid without forgoing sexual contact all together (condoms don't protect the skin around the base of your penis from skin contact and fluids).

I've never had as much as a coldsore, but odds are I have it along with everyone else who punts in Thailand or has sex with more than a few women.

[PinkPearl]

Huh?

"Worldwide rates of either HSV-1 and / or HSV-2 are between 60–95% in adults.".

My comment was about "genital herpes" not HSV1 which is typicly oral herpes & BTW often not even a STI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes

"Prevalance Rate for Genital herpes: approx 1 in 4 or 24. 63 percent or 67 million people in USA"

http://www.cureresearch.com/g/genita...ry_printer.htm

"HSV-2 seroprevalence was highest among prostitutes (80 percent) , lowest among pregnant women (7 percent) , and intermediate in STD patients (23 percent) and homosexuals (24 percent)."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2809388/

"Genital herpes was so common among prostitutes in the 18th century that it was called "a vocational disease of women. '

http://m.medindia.net/patientinfo/genital-herpes.htm

"Genital herpes is a common infection in the USA where about one in six people between the ages of 14 to 49 years has the HSV-2 infection. It appears to be more common and more aggressive in women than in men."

http://m.medindia.net/patientinfo/genital-herpes.htm

"70 percent of prostitutes with genital herpes virus."

http://www.health-writings.com/genit...-transmission/

"There were 405 (87. 5 percent) samples [of prostitutes] seropositive for both HSV-1 and HSV-2"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561051

"A 2006 meta-analysis found that circumcision was associated with lower rates of syphilis, chancroid and possibly genital herpes. [44] A 2010 review of clinical trial data found that circumcision reduced the incidence of HSV-2 (herpes simplex virus, type 2) infections by 28 percent."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

"Herpes is the goddess of prostitutes, time travel, merchandise, dishonesty, miscellaneous entertainment, and self delusion and is known for her cunning personality and capacity to drive men to drink and depression. Most importantly, she is the messenger of the gods."

http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Herpes

[Rick Rock]

Even amongst hookers who use condoms religiously about 60 percent have genital herpes compared to like 20 percent of the overall adult population.

Huh?

"Worldwide rates of either HSV-1 and / or HSV-2 are between 60–95% in adults.". Chayavichitsilp P, Buckwalter JV, Krakowski AC, Friedlander SF (April 2009)."Herpes simplex". Pediatr Rev 30 (4) : 119–29; quiz 130. http://pedsinreview.aappublications....ntent/30/4/119

And more:

"DR. PETER LEONE: So if you look at some population-based data in the United States and look at unmarried adults, meaning folks between the ages of 45 and 50, for women, we know the prevalence rate for genital herpes due to HSV-2 is between 50 and 70 percent. So we’re looking at close to the majority or the majority of folks in that age group who are single having genital herpes. So…

" FLATOW: Let me go over that number again because you’re saying that – it’s hard to believe – you’re saying that for women between the age of 40 and 50…

" Dr. LEONE: Right.

"FLATOW: … unmarried women?

" Dr. LEONE: Yes, unmarried women.

" FLATOW: You’re saying that between 50 and 75 percent of them have herpes type 2?

" Dr. LEONE: That’s exactly right. Yeah.

" FLATOW: Wow.

" Dr. LEONE: I know. It causes me to pause. I read the article about five times myself, saying, wow, and I do this for a living." - http://www.npr.org/2011/04/15/135442942/even-without-symptoms-genital-herpes-can-spread

[TomSf]

Thailand is a playground for men. It can be heaven. But there is a thin line between heaven and hell. Thailand can turn into hell very fast. Most girls in Thailand will do bareback. If they don't the first time. If you do long time they all do. This is a bad thing. Thai guys over there don't wear condoms.

I am going do just some bullet points and advice.

In Thailand bareback BJ is standard. That is the problem. If you look at the working girls lips over there cold sores are extremely common. Which is herpes. I saw some of the girls that stand in front of Nana plaza and some had cold sores on top of cold sores because of doing this for years and being with to many men. They cover it with lip stick and lip gloss. A friend of mine that is a 20 year veteran of Thailand never noticed it until I pointed it out. I would say 90% of the girls there have herpes both mouth and vaginally. If you do not wear a condom for BJ and sex you can only gamble so long before you get it. Now I know some of you are super human and resistant to all diseases and nothing can hurt you even bullets. This is for the rest of us. So you go to Bangkok day one of your 10 day vacation. You first day you are with 3 girls all had herpes that you could not see. Did you forget to look at their tongue for you guys that examine them before service. Ok so you get herpes. Lets say you have an outbreak the next day or the 3rd day of your trip. Now your trip is ruined because no more fun. Besides you dick is ruined. Did I mention if you have a herpes out break it is super easy to catch aids through the sores. You google it for that explanation.

Even with a condom if the girl has herpes the parts of skin that do touch her vagina can still be infected. Those areas need to be covered so use your imagination.

Even if the girl is not doing bb sex. Condoms break. Girls get drunk and guys sneak off the condom. Many guys have no control.

Going to Thailand, Philippines you have to assume all of them have a std. Be super careful. That way you can have along line with many trips back to Asia. But, from my experience guys that tell guys not to bb these girls will refuse to listen. They will usually verbally attack anyone that says this. Saying you can't catch std's. The girls are tested ext. Aids does not exist. LOL.

Some massage parlors test the girls and they say girl is guaranteed clean. You know what they means? Guaranteed cleaned means they come showered. Even if they are blood tested for aids. What about other things? Even if they were and they are not. If the girl is tested yesterday. After her test she is with 10-20 more guys. 6 of those guys have stds Is she now clean when she goes with you?

[TomSf]

The main reason I don't use a condom is not AIDs but rather it takes too long to take off when I want to blow my load over her.

The day I catch some serious shit is the day I start drinking 42 cups of spinach juice. 10 cups of carrot juice. 55 cups of lemon juice and every other fruit and vegetable per day until that * is wiped out.

Another advantage of knowing more about the body then a doctor or general population.

Dirty dick dropping futuristic knowledge and saving lives today.

NeverGetsOld,

Your so called cure is ridiculous. Just another lame excuse to bareback a hooker. This just is something to give you peace of mind.