Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[Lee66]

I have been coming to sukumvit area for some 25 years at least 3 times a year, what you are describing is about 3 years old, back then you could walk from grace hotel soi3 up to ambassador hotel ,pass some 100 russian girls and many more thail girls all freelancing and some thai girls with momason. grace was full of freelancers from 24:00 to 04:00 hrs. also, chinatown area was full of girls in afternoon, A crackdown begain by thaksin some 5 months before apec The plain cloths cops would help round up the girls, take them to police station demand money for release, the stuoid girls would claim they need to work here to pay for baby moma etc, same story they us guys.. (thaksin wanted to convince foreign business men that bangkok had no street walkers?.) the crack down continued but not as fierce after apec. I was here in december 04 , there was police activity then I left for pp day before tsunami, came back in january for 2 weeks and I saw no police activity. I just came back this week and I here the police haven't been around for a while so I think it took a tsunami for thaksin to realize thailand needs the sex industry.

[Jaimito Cartero]

Nottinon,

no criticism intended but where did you copy that article from ?

If do a search on Google, or other search engines, and include a whole sentence enclosed in quotes, it will bring up a hit in many cases.

In this case, it brought up this site:

http://www.bangkokbargirls.info/articles.asp

[The Traveler]

nottinon,

no criticism intended but where did you copy that article from ?
it's quite outdated, the bar area at asoke corner is (almost) gone, [CodeWord900] isn't there anymore, it moved to soi 8 and clinton is history as well, just the bars in front are still there the part in the back is closed or gone too

btw, lots of police in civil clothes in the suk area. they mostly target drugs but will arrest pickpockets as well if they can catch one (only at night, during day time it seems to be too hot )

[Janos Bacsi]

sukhumvit, one big nightlife and prostitution area?

sukhumvit has long been housing nana plaza, soi cowboy and thermae about right in the middle between the other two main entertainment areas. beerbars at nana plaza in front of the ground floor a-go-go bars are the rule, and soi zero under the highway has been around also for quite a few years now(though never very successful)

about two years ago clinton plaza, close to thermae, became a major attempt at creating another a-go-go entertainment place, located just 50 meters from sukhumvit road, in a prime location. however, due to 'legal' problems and a tendency by bar managers to charge high prices, it never really took off, and remains a secondary venue.

the last couple of years also saw the development of a beerbar area close to soi cowboy on the corner between asoke road and sukhumvit road. various sections of the rather large area are known as asoke plaza, and asoke corner. an (in) famous bar called [CodeWord901], apparently specializes in 'deep throat' like activities.

just recently on the opposite side of the road from thermae, at so called sukhumvit square a new assortment of beer bars are developing. sukhumvit square started of as an agglomerate of shops selling various thai art and handicrafts. probably the shops did not make enough money to pay the rent, and developing a new area for the girls to ply their trade, seemed to be a solution for that problem. quite a few larger sized bars there, mostly in open air, with some attractive girls.

this proliferation of beerbars and also of 'traditional thai massage' places, certainly has something to do with the economic crisis that developed in the years following 1997. on the other hand, more and more tourists are coming to thailand, creating a enlarging market for prostitution in various forms.

what is certainly new the last few years is active freelancer activity throughout central sukhumvit. girls are 'available' in front of robinson department store, close to ambassador hotel, and on the other side of the road, in front of pacific place (close to landmark hotel). furthermore, quit a few girls take up position in the evening and night, between soi 3 and soi 5 (soi foodland). when walking at night in between soi cowboy and nana plaza, it is quite impossible for male wanderers, not to get various propositions. katoeys are around close to nana intersection and in front of ambassador (there is a narrow passage in between ambassador entrance and a tourist information kiosk, where a lot of them are located). at night some of them seem to prefer the pedestrian bridge crossings. watch out for your wallet!

the foodland area at night has become a place where quite few unsavory characters hang out, including prostitutes, pimps, mobile telephone 'operators' etc.

all in all, central sukhumvit road, in between nana plaza and soi cowboy, a stretch of road about 1.5 km long, has become one large entertainment area with lots of beerbars and freelance prostitutes. it is quite puzzling why the development of a freelance market is being tolerated by the authorities, especially in view of the crackdown on other parts of the entertainment scene (go-go bars at nana plaza in particular). for sure sukhumvit is becoming an area of low grade criminality. hopefully this development does not go much further. unfortunately, police in bangkok have a habit of either driving around on motorcycles or directing traffic (or sitting in the traffic control boxes). not much walking around, checking out the area. just a few policemen walking down the sidewalk of sukhumvit, would do wonders in controlling the illegal activities going on there.

besides the description above it has to be noted that pornographic material is widely displayed and available on the sidewalk. while certainly illegal, there seems to be no enforcement fo the law.

[Kaiser]

Actually, I heard that if you simply cross your fingers while you have sex you really wont catch any diseases.

Just a tip.

[JuiceSpike]

Yep, she sure gave you all she "had"

juice

[Joe Zop]

LOL, unfortunately, I was elsewhere by the time the affliction became apparent, as is generally the nature of these little things.

Besides, from a contractual perspective, one could say she gave all she promised, she just gave a little more than was desired...

[JuiceSpike]

Did you get a refund from the girl that gave you the clap?



juice

[Joe Zop]

Atreides75, the real worry with BBBJ is not HIV, which as the previous two replies have noted is something an extremely low probability in this instance, but with genital herpes, gonorrhea, and genital warts (among other things) which can all be contracted via oral sex. All of these except for herpes are also relatively low in probability, but they definitely can still happen, as I will personally attest, having gotten the clap from a LOS BBBJ.

[Gladiator]

Contracting HIV from a BBBJ is extremely unlikely, it’s like being struck by lightning, but as you know some people are actually struck by lightning now and then.

The risk appears when your hired mouth has open sores or a bleeding area (by the teeth, lips or wherever).

I remember one occasion in the Sacred City of Pattaya when, after a long BBBJCIM, the Beach Road worker took a towel and wiped millions of spermatozoa from her mouth. When she left the towel I noticed some small red stains on it, I asked her what it was and she pointed to her lower lip: I looked at it and it was bleeding slightly. The BBBJCIM had been so long that her lip had started to bleed! She had been blowing me bareback while her blood was coming out!

I knew that had been a high-risk experience and there was the chance of contracting HIV as well as other less serious shits.

Anyway, this was a few years ago and all my regular STD tests since then have been fine.

I keep enjoying BBBJ’s as usual, because after all we only live once.

[JuiceSpike]

From what I know, you cannot contract HIV from a BJ but you can get other less damaging STD's... I think.

But always, always use a good quality condom for fucking.

juice

[Member #3411]

I've RTFF

[Member #3411]

Hello guys,

I do not want to spoil anyone's gusto but some very basic reserach about HIV and STD's was enough to scare the shit out of me.

I always had condom during sex but does any veteran over here came across any data showing the probability of getting HIV through oral sex? does DFK have any risk?

These questions might seem stupid, should have thought about the consequances before doing the act and I will have the test to be sure but there is this 3 month period that you should wait. It is too long to spend worrying.

I will appreciate your comments.

Thank you

Atre

[Thumbs Up]

this from the ap:

rutgers researchers may have stopped hiv

pirep001away, n.j. — researchers at rutgers university have developed a trio of drugs they believe can destroy hiv, the virus that causes aids, according to a published report.

the drugs, called dapys, mimic the virus by changing shape, which enables them to interfere with the way hiv attacks the immune system.

tests conducted in conjunction with johnson and johnson have shown the drug to be easily absorbed with minimal side effects. it also can be taken in one pill, in contrast to the drug cocktails currently taken by many aids patients.

“this could be it,” stephen smith, the head of the department of infectious diseases at saint michael's medical center in newark, said. “we're all looking for the next class of drugs.”

a research team led by rutgers chemist eddy arnold pre-published details of the most promising of the three drugs, known as r278474, last month in the electronic edition of the journal of medicinal chemistry. full details will be published in the journal in early 2005.

dr. arnold, 47, has worked at dismantling the aids virus over the last 20 years. he uses x-ray crystallography, a technique to determine the structure of molecules, the smallest particles that can retain all the characteristics of an element or compound.

the research has targeted reverse transcriptase, a submiscroscopic protein composed of two coiled chains of amino acids. it is considered hiv's key protein.

“reverse transcriptase is very important in the biology of aids,” dr. smith said. “if you can really inhibit reverse transcriptase, you can stop aids.”

the optimism about r278474 stems from its potential to interfere with an enzyme that the virus needs to copy and insert itself into a human cell.

“we're onto something very, very special,” dr. arnold said.

dr. arnold established his lab at rutgers' center for advanced biotechnology and medicine in 1987. his current 30-member research team is partnered with johnson and johnson subsidiaries janssen pharmaceutica and tibotec-virco nv.

an important advancement in dr. arnold's research came in 1990 when belgian scientist paul janssen was added to the collaboration. dr. janssen, considered a drug pioneer, published a paper that year that described a new drug that blocked reverse transcriptase but caused resistant strains of the virus to pop up too quickly.

dr. janssen sought out dr. arnold, who used crystallography to detail the structure of rt. their work ultimately led to the rt inhibitors.

“we may eventually win the war against hiv/aids. that would be an extremely rewarding and satisfying outcome,” dr. arnold said.

[Coma Boy]

From CNN's web-site:

"One in 60 people out of the country's population of 62 million are infected with HIV. About one in 10 of those are between the ages of 15 and 24".

Scary stuff.