Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[Newton York]

Bizarrely enough they don't seem to, in my limited experience. Sheer stupidity IMO, so best to keep a few packets of the morning-after pill in the house and the girl can swallow it before leaving.

I'm guessing most of those guys simply don't care. Here this week, gone next week, not their problem.

This was decades ago, but I creampied a hooker here in the shithole northeast city I'm in now, no guesses which city. But a few days later I thought to myself, what if she gets pregnant? Then weeks later, I thought, what if she is pregnant, and with my kid? Years later, I forgot that I even forgot about it. But I still think about how awesome it was to cum insider her. That's all that matters guys. Don't worry about it. Just fuck, cum, and split. That's what the money's for! I'd give anything for more cash now, just so I can spill some seed back in Bangkok.

If they don't know you're real name, you're set. NEVER tell them who you really are.

[Newton York]

My friend and myself were discussing the dangers of BBFS and that it's just a matter of time this careless habit is going to explode in the MP scene.

One person with some serious STD is going to fuck it up for the rest of us and Thai authorities are going to come hard on them.

Offering BBFS like this is going to encourage others to offer the same services and before you know it Thai authroties are going to issue a blanket ban on all these establishments for a few months.

What my friend assured me that one girl she took who was seen offering no condom services replied to him that it was just for bbj.

I don't know about the other things. If they do offer BBFS so openly, I am not goin to enter that place. These guys are going to cause some serious problems.

That said, many massage girls were sometimes so horny they tried to shove my dick in them with no condoms and it was me who resisted and put the cover back on.

I know if that happened to me, I'd never be able to resist. It never happens to me, cause I'm a shriveled old guy with a barely functioning dick even with penis pills. All that being said, I do wonder about going bareback. I miss it. I'm so old now, what have I got to lose? I say you lucky fucks there in Bangkok now, just go crazy, and do whatever, until something really bad makes it way thru the chicks, then you can feel like you dodged a bullet. At least you're there. I'm stuck here, not knowing if I will ever be able to go to Thailand to even take such an awesome risk. Beelzebub, I'd sell my soul right now.

[Newton York]

I got to say, I agree too. In my long years of being alive, condom use doesn't seem all that common to me. I'm old enough to remember the years when it was not needed at all, with any chick, pro or amateur. But those were also the days when chicks didn't shave down there. Sheesh. Man, I had some crazy times in South East Asia during the war. Nowadays, in Bangkok, I use it just cause. But I'm so old now, I wonder if I should even bother anymore and try BBFS again, I miss the feeling of going into pussy raw. When did I become such a chicken shit coward? Why am I afraid of BBFS? Not even almost, but literally every dude I've ever spoke to who hobbies on a regular basis, says when they go bareback, days and weeks later they check back in and doctor clears them of anything. It's always consequence free. I know I don't have that kind of luck, cause I'm not a lucky person, that's why if I go bareback, my dick would probably fall off the next week. Ha!

[Zam007]

I've been on this forum over a decade and this comment still managed to take my breathe away. This gentleman seriously deserves an award. Sir, I hate to break it to you: you are literally amongst the most hopelessly naive 0. 01% of the world population.

Since time immemorial the BBFS rate has probably been 20-50% without fail in Thailand and actually all SE Asia plus Korea and Japan.

I've participated in raw gangbangs in Germany and Belgium for over ten years now, some with 100 participants.

If you seriously think what you do. You need to get out there and try to get a grip on reality, People don't use condoms. Period.

What you don't really get is that men from countries with High rates of HIV infections and other STDs are increasingly finding it easy to travel to Thailand nowadays. These guys won't be able to afford to travel to Europe, which is why things are a bit better in Central and West Europe. HIV infections in East Europe on the other hand is skyrocketing along with other STDs.

I was merely typing a part of the conversation we had and you are not the only person who has smashed chicks with no protection.

The difference is that intelligent men know when and where to do these things with the right women.

Save your sarcasm for someone else, go Fuck around and find out.

[MomoFarang]

I've been on this forum over a decade and this comment still managed to take my breathe away. This gentleman seriously deserves an award. Sir, I hate to break it to you: you are literally amongst the most hopelessly naive 0. 01% of the world population.

Since time immemorial the BBFS rate has probably been 20-50% without fail in Thailand and actually all SE Asia plus Korea and Japan.

I've participated in raw gangbangs in Germany and Belgium for over ten years now, some with 100 participants.

If you seriously think what you do. You need to get out there and try to get a grip on reality, People don't use condoms. Period.

Ok, that's fine. But bareback doesn't mean that one doesn't protect himself by other means: TENO-them (PREP), Doxy (PREP and / or PEP), Cefixime + Azythromycin (PEP).

[Parasitius]

My friend and myself were discussing the dangers of BBFS and that it's just a matter of time this careless habit is going to explode in the MP scene.

I've been on this forum over a decade and this comment still managed to take my breathe away. This gentleman seriously deserves an award. Sir, I hate to break it to you: you are literally amongst the most hopelessly naive 0. 01% of the world population.

Since time immemorial the BBFS rate has probably been 20-50% without fail in Thailand and actually all SE Asia plus Korea and Japan.

I've participated in raw gangbangs in Germany and Belgium for over ten years now, some with 100 participants.

If you seriously think what you do. You need to get out there and try to get a grip on reality, People don't use condoms. Period.

[MomoFarang]

I wondered about that same thing when I first read about the "No Condom Ok" option there from other punters on this forum a few months ago. Then at least one poster here who frequented the Shop verified that it indeed means BBFS+CIP as confirmed by the mamasan there and by his personal experience with one of the girls who stipulated that service. Since then there have been other Field Reports posted in this forum that clearly stipulated that "No Condom Ok" meant BBFS+CIP on the menu of the girls booked and sessioned with.

Otherwise, if it is only referring to a BJ then that would mean fully 33+ of the girls working at Butterfly Massage require you to wear a condom for BJ unless they also include the "No Condom Ok" qualifier.

I would ask your Japanese friend if when he used to visit that shop did he ever book and session a girl who stipulated "No Condom Ok"? Up until a few months ago there were only 3-4 who did. And did the girls he booked and sessioned with who did not stipulate "No Condom Ok" really require him to wear a condom for a simple BJ, including the ones who listed "Mouth Finish" on their profile?

BTW:

ATTENTION: Some of you gents have sent me PMs asking for more information but I can't reply for whatever reason. Maybe you need to empty your mailbox.

Ok, Last week, mid afternoon.

Lined Butterfly, requested Zacha for outcall, no condom + anal. The answer came "available 4500 + 1000 + 2000".

The girl I got was quite attractive even though she didn't bear any resemblance with the one on the web site.

Great action, DT, Vaginal, Anal, CIA all BB.

I'd repeat right now if I was in still in Bangkok.

Maybe better to try, instead of pointless speculation.

[Zam007]

I wondered about that same thing when I first read about the "No Condom Ok" option there from other punters on this forum a few months ago. Then at least one poster here who frequented the Shop verified that it indeed means BBFS+CIP as confirmed by the mamasan there and by his personal experience with one of the girls who stipulated that service. Since then there have been other Field Reports posted in this forum that clearly stipulated that "No Condom Ok" meant BBFS+CIP on the menu of the girls booked and sessioned with.

Otherwise, if it is only referring to a BJ then that would mean fully 33+ of the girls working at Butterfly Massage require you to wear a condom for BJ unless they also include the "No Condom Ok" qualifier.

I would ask your Japanese friend if when he used to visit that shop did he ever book and session a girl who stipulated "No Condom Ok"? Up until a few months ago there were only 3-4 who did. And did the girls he booked and sessioned with who did not stipulate "No Condom Ok" really require him to wear a condom for a simple BJ, including the ones who listed "Mouth Finish" on their profile?

BTW:

ATTENTION: Some of you gents have sent me PMs asking for more information but I can't reply for whatever reason. Maybe you need to empty your mailbox.

My friend and myself were discussing the dangers of BBFS and that it's just a matter of time this careless habit is going to explode in the MP scene.

One person with some serious STD is going to fuck it up for the rest of us and Thai authorities are going to come hard on them.

Offering BBFS like this is going to encourage others to offer the same services and before you know it Thai authroties are going to issue a blanket ban on all these establishments for a few months.

What my friend assured me that one girl she took who was seen offering no condom services replied to him that it was just for bbj.

I don't know about the other things. If they do offer BBFS so openly, I am not goin to enter that place. These guys are going to cause some serious problems.

That said, many massage girls were sometimes so horny they tried to shove my dick in them with no condoms and it was me who resisted and put the cover back on.

[EihTooms]

I think No condom ok HERE means BBJ. I asked a japanese friend who used to visit that place, he said it's not BBFS, just BBBJ.

Anal Suck for example in that shop means Rimjob.

I wondered about that same thing when I first read about the "No Condom Ok" option there from other punters on this forum a few months ago. Then at least one poster here who frequented the Shop verified that it indeed means BBFS+CIP as confirmed by the mamasan there and by his personal experience with one of the girls who stipulated that service. Since then there have been other Field Reports posted in this forum that clearly stipulated that "No Condom Ok" meant BBFS+CIP on the menu of the girls booked and sessioned with.

Otherwise, if it is only referring to a BJ then that would mean fully 33+ of the girls working at Butterfly Massage require you to wear a condom for BJ unless they also include the "No Condom Ok" qualifier.

I would ask your Japanese friend if when he used to visit that shop did he ever book and session a girl who stipulated "No Condom Ok"? Up until a few months ago there were only 3-4 who did. And did the girls he booked and sessioned with who did not stipulate "No Condom Ok" really require him to wear a condom for a simple BJ, including the ones who listed "Mouth Finish" on their profile?

BTW:

ATTENTION: Some of you gents have sent me PMs asking for more information but I can't reply for whatever reason. Maybe you need to empty your mailbox.

[Explorer8939]

A couple of weeks ago, I was staying at a new place, and woke up every morning with pain in my lower back. I chalked it up to a new bed.

I was also peeing frequently, which is not normal for me.

After it persisted, I put 2 and 2 together and realized that I probably had a kidney infection. I put myself on a regimen of amoxicillin and ciproflaxcin, which has cleared it up.

I suspect I got the infection from licking the pussy of a lady with a UTI.

Not much you can do to avoid that, except not lick pussy.

[Explorer8939]

This statement is simply nonsense. There is no standard "PCR test". There are PCR tests for HIV, and different PCR tests for COVID, and different PCR tests for herpes viruses, etc. Each pathogen requires unique "primers", which are synthetic starter DNA molecules that are used for DNA amplification.

As for your second statement: The COVID PCR test is positive for about the first 14 days of infection, although rare (really rare) individuals have been positive for months (especially immunocompromised patients who lack an immune system). Many, many people who die of COVID are PCR (and rapid antigen test) negative before they die. Modern medical techniques can keep them alive for months, long after the virus has stopped replicating.

You are absolutely correct. In the context of a discussion about PCR tests for Covid, I used the shorthand term "PCR test" instead of "PCR test for Covid".

Also, I should have stated that just about everyone who died of Covid had a positive PCR test (for Covid) prior to their demise.

[Amnesia]

This statement is simply nonsense. There is no standard "PCR test". There are PCR tests for HIV, and different PCR tests for COVID, and different PCR tests for herpes viruses, etc. Each pathogen requires unique "primers", which are synthetic starter DNA molecules that are used for DNA amplification.

He didn't claim that there's one PCR test that tests for everything. It's pretty clear that the phrase "standard PCR test" refers to the PCR technology.

As for your second statement: The COVID PCR test is positive for about the first 14 days of infection, although rare (really rare) individuals have been positive for months (especially immunocompromised patients who lack an immune system). Many, many people who die of COVID are PCR (and rapid antigen test) negative before they die. Modern medical techniques can keep them alive for months, long after the virus has stopped replicating.

The PCR test is positive for as long as it detect DNA / RNA of the virus. And that's exactly how it is supposed to work. All the Covidiots who get nuts about this either never had a clue about how this technology (or any tests in general for that matter) is supposed to work or intentionally compare it against something that it (and any other tests in general) was never supposed to do.

[Werqweq]

Can we assume that all working ladies are on birth control?

I wonder that, as I am not a BBCIP guy, I always use protection, but I know a lot of guys don't, so I'm curious if they just assume the sex working ladies use birth control.

Bizarrely enough they don't seem to, in my limited experience. Sheer stupidity IMO, so best to keep a few packets of the morning-after pill in the house and the girl can swallow it before leaving.

I'm guessing most of those guys simply don't care. Here this week, gone next week, not their problem.

[MamaGuevos]

You are 50% correct. PCR indeed is a technique to amplify DNA. But the standard "PCR test" also includes a second component, an agent to look in that amplified DNA for the Covid virus.

That's why the vast majority of people who died of Covid had a positive Covid test before they died.

This statement is simply nonsense. There is no standard "PCR test". There are PCR tests for HIV, and different PCR tests for COVID, and different PCR tests for herpes viruses, etc. Each pathogen requires unique "primers", which are synthetic starter DNA molecules that are used for DNA amplification.

As for your second statement: The COVID PCR test is positive for about the first 14 days of infection, although rare (really rare) individuals have been positive for months (especially immunocompromised patients who lack an immune system). Many, many people who die of COVID are PCR (and rapid antigen test) negative before they die. Modern medical techniques can keep them alive for months, long after the virus has stopped replicating.

[MamaGuevos]

Kary Mullis, the inventor of the polymerase chain reaction "test" (PCR), for which he received the Nobel prize in chemistry in 1993, PCR being a technique used to amplify DNA and detect viruses, said ". . . . with the PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody. " See https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...xt/9198197002/ for this quote. For this reason, the PCR is not a valid test for illness, HSV, COVID-19, or any other illness, despite its accuracy in detecting genetic sequences of viruses. The finding of a virus in a sample taken from a sick person does not prove symptoms were caused by that virus unless, perhaps, you also get a negative test for every other conceivable cause of the symptoms. Therefore, all the numbers you see for prevalence of HIV or SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19 or any other illness based on PCR "tests" are misleading and invalid.

This is simply nonsense. If I went in for testing tomorrow and was tested for HIV, SARS-CoV-2, Hep b, etc. , they would all be negative. You cannot find almost anything in anybody.

If your blood is positive for HIV, believe me, you have HIV! Sometimes, the test is equivocal (rather than binary), but its positive predictive value is VERY high. There are excellent antibody tests as well, but these require that you have had the virus for a longer period of time, generally 2 weeks and rarely a few months.

Mullis, by the way, was a little bit nuts. He believed in UFOs and alien abductions. And, he famously said that HIV did not cause AIDS, despite abundant data, including PCR data. That all AIDS patients (100%)have evidence of the HIV genome in their blood, as detected by PCR, is unequivocally true. The use of PCR to detect AIDS can sometimes give complicated results, but there is zero doubt that when done and interpreted by experienced individuals, the data is very reliable.

Param: if you really believe in what you said, I think that if you ever get AIDS, you should not take anti-retrovirals, as these drugs are all designed to inhibit viral replication and doctors use PCR to monitor treatment efficacy. I guess you would call that type of medical care a waste of your time.