Thai Women - Opinions & Advice

[LittleBigMan]

Don't you fuck them in the shower? I thought girls love that? .

I should have been more clear. I meant although many are scared to go out on Songkran it wasn't going to stop me!

I don't fuck them in the shower but I do like them sucking me while I seat on the toilet seat. In the shower I lke to soap them up and get that standup body massage.

Welcome back! Isn't it nice to be out of jail? LBM

[NicFrenchy]

a little water will not get in my way of seeing and tasting some good pussy!

LBM.

LBM

Don't you fuck them in the shower? I thought girls love that? .

[LittleBigMan]

Western,

From your response I think we both can agree how large and complicated the problem has become. Within the conversation being thrown around and opinion I haven't heard any answers to my questions and that is why? Can't we come up with something better instead of saying we can't afford, criticizing other countries system, lost of constitutions and freedom, the excuses whatever one what to come up is is just that! It is a fact, that we all can agree that the cost is killing everyone including all business whether they are small or large!

We are non-important individuals discussing a topic yet those who we put in office (Congress / Senators) have a much clearer picture of the problem yet they have spent 2years complaining instead of working on a system that would address all the problems we ourselves are discussing. In the real world is it out of the question if you don't like something and have all the resources at your disposal come up with something that address all the problems including Tort reforms that would make everyone happy! But like Thailand government politician all I have heard is lip service instead of putting a plan on the table. Instead we spend taxpayer money to take the issue to the Supreme Court, regardless of the decision I ask What is the alternative? All these ideas Free market etc. Are ideas. Nothing more. Where is the alternative plan if you don't like OBAMACARE?

In 1994, Hillary Clinton tried she got the picture right or wrong she was shot down. But where was the alternative and where was the cry of Constitution the lost of freedom when she try? Twenty-Two years later with rising cost year after year we still have nothing because this is exactly the goal of our politicians. Maybe race really has something to do with it whether the good old boys want to admit or not. Maybe the truth hurts that although we are living in the 21st century we still have the 19th mentality? Western, when you say OBAMA LIE, give me one politician that hasn't and that certainly include the red neck Wilson! Regardless of their party every single one of them are professional liars and if you think for a moment you can elect someone who is clean and stay clean you are living in a dream world.

If we know what is so wrong please tell me why after 22 years we are still at square one? Now this time and moment the excuse is freedom, immigration, tort reform, criticism of other countries system, can't afford it and of course Constitution and Socialism. They got us all fighting and scared so everything stays the same! Sure OBAMA screwed up he should have just lay out a comprehensive plan instead he left it up to the good old boys who hasn't done a damn thing in 22 years!

People talk about how great this country use to be and we got to get back to those times? If they really meant it they would show some honesty, fortitude and that great American imagination and come up with a plan to show the world how it is done! But instead we have a new word " Entitlement " to label and blame us small guys for turning, explanding, and running every good intended program to the ground! While our polticians and Hawks continue to spend and lavish on tax payer dollars spending $18. 00 for a muffin, forgiving a 50 billion loan to Pakistan so we can fly over their country, the list goes on and on with bi oversight from current or prior adminitration and there isn't one politician who is running for President that hasn't been part of the problem! We seem to be able to help everyone in the world but when it comes to our own citizens we have nothing but excuses and they label you and I " Entitlement "!

The world look at the USA for leadership not just from our President. And this current issue makes us what a big joke! And this has nothing to do with whether one loves his country or not?

Thanks for your time for allowing me to vent and tonight regardless of Songkran, I will be prepare because a little water will not get in my way of seeing and tasting some good pussy!

LBM.

LBM

[NicFrenchy]

You mean other than "Stupid"? = &3650; &3591; &3656; (ngôh)

The "= &3650; &3591; &3656;" was supposed to be Thai Characters. Oh well.

[NicFrenchy]

Is there a thai word for the farang who sponsors "his" bargirl, the so called walking ATM?

Thanks!

You mean other than "Stupid"? = &3650; &3591; &3656; (ngôh)

[Fslag338]

I live in Thailand. Unlike some other foreigners who do that, I have my (Thai) contacts mostly outside the bar scene and over the years have made a few very good Thai female friends. From all backgrounds, from the farm daughter from Isaan to a high-so ex GF.

They have told me many things about the Thai way of life and about how they see love, money, gifts, faith in a relationship etc.

Some of their comments can be eye openers for a few of you, so let me mention them. Mind you: this is NOT based on Thai woman with foreign man situations, but just on every day Thai life.

* Money and presents: in any relationship (love-sex or whatever) between a woman and (any-foreign or Thai) man, there are two options: or you go for the relationship or you go for the presents / money / taxi money whatever. In almost all cases, sex is not for free. The girl must always have some advantage from it.

Sex really for free happens only between two people of similar age and social status. The moment there is a difference in social status and the relationship is not the purpose, the something is expected. And mind you, if they do not ask for anything it is mostly out of modesty or shyness, not that it is not expected!

* Faith in a relationship: it is very hard to find here. They have a culture of having "gigs" (sex / fun partner without official relationship) many times besides the regular partner. It is very common for a Thai young girl to have an older (Thai) man to "take care" (meaning paying tuition, apartment or whatever) and one or more young guys for fun and love.

So the foreigner getting pissed off finding out his Thai GF has somebody else on the side."welcome to Thailand".

[Pinaypounder]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1155133]The debate was started whether a non-pro woman is more expensive than P4P. I can only speak for myself when I say that when the debate was started I was not aware that we were talking about high society non-pros versus whatever type of pro. I never dated rich women in my home country so why would I normally do it in Thailand.

I just read and agree with your report. Any girl that asks or expects money or gifts is just in her mind (and ours) repositioning herself apart from the straight up Pros.

By seeking gifts (typically they are not so subtle) they satisfy themselves that they are not Prostitutes and I think it makes some of us feel better AND for those of us that have walked both sides of that fence do they not actually EXTRACT more money this way?

So I think this new group called semi-pros are smarter and I would suggest typically employed and do see less pipe than a good old fashioned prostitute.

Like this fellow I lived in the Phils and had a couple of real girlfriends that expected nothing more than a normal relationship.

The entire class of semi-pros are created by us mongerers who wish to communicate in crude terms that we do not wish a true relationship but would rather rent their vagina on an "as needed basis".

The girls initially hurt adapt quickly as typically most of us are at least decent in bed as we fuck so much so they get well fucked and rewarded and frankly who would not want this.

Regular Grils.

Semi-Pros we made them and we love them.

Pros, thank god for poor economics!

PP

[Nullnull]

Is there a thai word for the farang who sponsors "his" bargirl, the so called walking ATM?

Thanks!

[Goyave]

The debate was started whether a non-pro woman is more expensive than P4P...

My response is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1155240

[Mr Enternational]

Same thing for the local girls: a young tall slim fair-skinned university student originating from an upper-middle class family has much more value in Thailand than a mature dark-skinned undereducated mother coming from a poor rural village of Isaan. You might have more fun and better sex with the latter, but the former is higher placed on the local scale of girls' value, and it's obvious for everyone who has spent enough time in Thailand outside of the tourist-oriented zoos

The debate was started whether a non-pro woman is more expensive than P4P. I can only speak for myself when I say that when the debate was started I was not aware that we were talking about high society non-pros versus whatever type of pro. I never dated rich women in my home country so why would I normally do it in Thailand. Sure we can agree that dating Angelina Jolie or Naomi Campbell we would spend more money than LT with #43 at Rainbow Bar. But how many farang in Thailand are dating or have dated a woman as such here or back home? When I entered into the debate I understood by "non-pro" we were talking about everyday office workers, nurses, schoolteachers, etc. I did not know the debate was to include college students who are driving their father's Rolls Royce or 25 year old corporate executives who are making millions of baht per year.

I am from an average middle class family and have noticed that for the most part people around the world date within their own socioeconomic group. I still hold fast to my observation, experience and hypothesis that a non-pro Thai woman is not as expensive as P4P. If a woman already comes from money why the hell would she need money and gifts from you? It seems to reason that whatever she wanted she could buy for herself or her family would provide for her.

Again, I have been coming to Thailand for 5 years and have been living here 1 year. I am not the settling down type, but of 3 non-pros who I have been involved with consistently over the last 4 years (one is in real estate, one is a school teacher, and one is a government worker) they have never once asked me for any money or any gifts, unless it was something small for their birthday. And even then they could care less what the present was. Sure they have told me many times that they want to marry me and I have told them just as many times that I don't want to get married. But I have never had any of them or any other non-pro ask me for money or gifts. I even have a friend who I have known for the same 4 years that wants me to make a baby with her, yet does not want me to support the baby, raise the baby or even see the baby thereafter.

To me asking for money or gifts is skating in P4P territory. And the several Thais that I have had this talk with have said the same. Maybe the guy starts off trying to play Mr. Big Money and is forced to stay the course. Maybe the girl is just a b*tch (read working girl) to begin with. If you run out of money and the woman is still with you then that is a non-pro. But if you run out of money or stop spending money and likewise went your Thai girl then she was never non-pro to begin with. She was with your money, not with you.

[New Old Guy]

[apologies for double posting]

Sometime on this board we have great reports on the psychology of Thai women, be them SW or not. Often these are quite young (sub-30 let's say) , I have to say that by now I kind of know what I'm doing, what they really want, including the fact they don't want me at all times.

But as I grow older I'm getting more intrigued with matures, I'm talking the hot ones even well in their forties. Often I find them much more attractive especially when well dressed and produced. Altough I have to say that so far sex has been better with the young ones I have a feeling that for some kind of long term relationship, an older one may work better. By the way I'm 47 looking a bit younger (hopefully). You think that an older Thai woman psychology is much different from a younger one? Logic would say so but what's your experience? If we go for older non-pro shouldn't we expect a much higher success rate?

Discuss.

[Evianist]

All the other ladies (and gays) in the office told her. 35+ only as below that age, they don't know how to behave.

And of course by "they don't know how to behave" they mean "they don't give me their ATM card on the first date."

[NicFrenchy]

I don't really have any experience yet outside P4P with these ladies. I guess they know they can't expect a serious relationship with a younger guy so what's the rush?

I feel for you. I am older than you are and also find it hard as Asian women want an older guy to take care and understand them.

One of my staff came in last week and told me French people are Kee-niao. She met a mid-20s guy and they went to the restaurant, she liked him and would have probably brought him back to her place for desert (if you know what I mean).

Thing is, the guy offered to split the bill. She paid half. When time to leave (they arrived in her car as the restaurant was far) , she told him he can take the bus, and left.

She showed me, the guy apologized many times but she did not answer.

All the other ladies (and gays) in the office told her. 35+ only as below that age, they don't know how to behave.

[Backsoi]

Are a lot of TGs willing to have sex without a condom? Do they charge more or ask for a big tip if this is the service rendered? What about non P4P TG's, do they usually do it uncovered with Thai men and farang? When they do it BB is it because they want a child to take care of them when old, because it feels better, or just because they were in the moment of intimacy? Are female condoms available for sale in Bangkok?

They will do it so you barfine them again. They don't give their health much thought when moneys involved. The ones I have been with said ok to BB straight away.

[PinkPearl]

Are a lot of TGs willing to have sex without a condom? Do they charge more or ask for a big tip if this is the service rendered? What about non P4P TG's, do they usually do it uncovered with Thai men and farang? When they do it BB is it because they want a child to take care of them when old, because it feels better, or just because they were in the moment of intimacy? Are female condoms available for sale in Bangkok?