Tashkent

[Goga Fung]

Dirk Dingy,

Again, thanks for the insight.

After mongering all these years rampaging from Latvia to Cyprus to G*d knows where, my happy travels were bound to catch up with me, literally.

Just corious WTF did you do in Cyprus?

If its southern Cyprus, there are still Russian / Ukrainian / Romanian girls in those "clubs"?

Where you buy them drinks and they go with you only after 3 am?

I think even Uzbekistan is much better than Cyprus.

[Eros74]

... In clubs one also needs to be careful, sometimes you may meet the president daughter, etc.. you probably do not wanna hit on them

Honestly I think could be great to meet his daughter, maybe she will like me or just take me as friend, surely I will never go to try to date her as girlfriend, but to become one of her many friends, could be very helpful

P.S. you have a PM

[Goga Fung]

Goga Fung,

no doubt the agency found a very great way to get much money from foreigners and if you consider they know the owner, I'll probably neither meet, I guess I have to pay, this time, and be smarter, using another agency, next time.
No doubt it will a very interesting experience and btw do you have some clubs to suggest in particularly ?

I will check out some places later this week, and let you know. When are you coming to Tashkent?

In the past I was not impressed with Tashkent clubs much. It has been better for me to find girls through personal connections. In clubs one also needs to be careful, sometimes you may meet the president daughter, etc.. you probably do not wanna hit on them

[Eros74]

Goga Fung,
no doubt the agency found a very great way to get much money from foreigners and if you consider they know the owner, I'll probably neither meet, I guess I have to pay, this time, and be smarter, using another agency, next time.
No doubt it will a very interesting experience and btw do you have some clubs to suggest in particularly ?


DirkDingy,
thanks, I got your pm.
I agree with your and Prosal's POV, I am a monger, let's see if I can be a Player too, I cannot wait to be on the ground and test myself.
I never thought Tashkent could be easy, but I had the need something new and more adventurous than provincial Russia.

[Goga Fung]

The reason why it took so long was because we waited for three hours in the wrong office, then official was in at the right office but would be back in "five minutes" for two hours, then he ran out ink or something for his stamp, then I said fuck it and left for the day, etc.

The 1800 buck fine was to, I think, expedite his "trial". If he didn't pay it he would have had to spend weeks in jail awaiting trial on an immigration violation. And by that time he cops at the airport knew, the MOI knew, the judge knew, his avocat knew, etc. That's a lot of people to pay off. I don't know if the threat would have been carried through with but Uzbeskistan, god bless the place, is one of the most repressive police states in the world.

Also, the apartment owner has to have a license to rent out the apartment which they rarely have because if they do the tax man starts comming, so they are all doing some of shady shit to mask the obvious. My flat owner said that i was her cousin. WTF?

You are a native Uzbek, right? Do you think that my social commentary is on point? Good to get a native's POV.

Dirk,

As I wrote in PM to you what you know about Uzbekistan/Tashkent is really amazing. I'm not native Uzbek (only partially), never lived there, I visit the country normally only once-twice a year, you seem to spend much more time there.

You got it exactly right about the "cousin" story for the Milicia, I actually wanted to mention about this before, when I come to Tashkent, for the police I'm presented as her "niece".

To avoid stories like with the Belgian guy, nobody should fuck with the milicia/government and try to follow all the rules. I think some gringos think they can get away with anything, but it's not always easy in Uzbekistan.

I have heard that you can even come without visa to Tashkent, but the visa fee will be determined on arrival depending on how hungry the immigration guys are.

One of the best way to avoid trouble is to get some friends from milicia, SNB, etc. The higher their position the better. I know some local guys who drive sometimes drunk or without license. In one small city they also let me drive their SUV. I told them that I do not have a license with me. But they said no problem because they know all the milicia around.

To get back on the girl topic. In Uzbekistan, I have seen some of the weirdest hos. Like one day she can be a working ho, another day she is a good girl and nothing will make her sleep with you.

And outside of the city it can get even weirder.

Some hos will fuck you for $10, but there is no way she is gonna do BJ, even for $20 or more.

Outside of Tashkent, I have seen a $3 working girl who had more hair on her legs than on my head. She also brought with her a good-looking girl who was very upset and almost crying. I could not understand why the hell they came, eventually we sent them back.

Of course there are plenty of normal or funny ones. Like she is a good girl who never fucks, but she will do good BJ and may take up her ass, but she is planning to get married with an unsuspecting guy who believes she is a virgin.

Also one time we picked up a girl from a street, a good-looking student. It was funny to see her pussy shaved, but her legs not.

Another time we had some chicks over, one was getting phone calls from her boyfriend all the time. Every 10 minutes. She was about to get fucked by my friend, and she was laughing that her boyfriend believed she was a virgin. These are "good" girls, they always go home by 8 pm

I actually do not enjoy the country as "sex destination", there are also many other interesting things to do and see. Also many locals would be really offended if they here this about their country. I hope they do not read this forum.

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[Bukudala]

Dirk Dingy,

Again, thanks for the insight.

After mongering all these years rampaging from Latvia to Cyprus to G*d knows where, my happy travels were bound to catch up with me, literally.

My situation isn't the easiest, certainly not ideal, and would raise more than a few eyebrows if all the circumstances came to light with family and friends, but WTF, you only live once.

Which leads to my upcoming trip to Tashkent.

I've decided to book a hotel for five days and have the hotel handle the paperwork. If we decide to spend time there or at her place, we'll play it by ear. You suggested having her register with me when I check in?

And I appreciate your comments about the cultural sensitivities and economic circumstances for Uzbek ladies, especially single Mothers. I've always made it my mission to better the lives, no matter how tiny an increment, of everyone I meet even in this hobby. Other than for pure pleasure, most WG I've met would've made a great GF or wife at a different time and place.

Whether this LTR works or not, I've already made a promise to give her a fighting chance for a decent life and a choice.

Enough said. A big thanks to everyone on this board and especially to you, Dark Dingy.

Wish me luck.

[DirkDingy]

If I remember correctly, in all my trips(the last one was last December), the registration was about $5, one time fee. You go to the milicia with the apartment owner, and she should take care of everything.

I guess whatever else you pay $3/day, $20, etc... are some "service" fees.

It usually took 30min max to submit my passport if there was a line. But maybe it is different for a western passport. Still I'm very surprised one can spend there 10 hours, those guys never work so much. They actually like to close the doors about 4, so they can get out of work early.

I can only imaging those strange things happen there only for a reason that you are a foreigner who will eventually pay more.

What the Belgian guy paid $1800 is rediculous. Uzbek "officials" should be really happy with $100-$200.

Also before the flight back make sure the luggage does not exceed the limit(it can be different depending on flight), if it does you can have another funny experience of bribing in the airport.

The reason why it took so long was because we waited for three hours in the wrong office, then official was in at the right office but would be back in "five minutes" for two hours, then he ran out ink or something for his stamp, then I said fuck it and left for the day, etc.

The 1800 buck fine was to, I think, expedite his "trial". If he didn't pay it he would have had to spend weeks in jail awaiting trial on an immigration violation. And by that time he cops at the airport knew, the MOI knew, the judge knew, his avocat knew, etc. That's a lot of people to pay off. I don't know if the threat would have been carried through with but Uzbeskistan, god bless the place, is one of the most repressive police states in the world.

Also, the apartment owner has to have a license to rent out the apartment which they rarely have because if they do the tax man starts comming, so they are all doing some of shady shit to mask the obvious. My flat owner said that i was her cousin. WTF?

You are a native Uzbek, right? What do you think of the expatraite view by some of us on your country. Good to get a native's POV.

[Goga Fung]

Dear friends, one question, staying in apartment, how much is the fee of registration?

I called a while ago the uzbek embassy at my country and they told me to ask to agency who rents me the flat.

The agency rents me apartment, tell me it is 15$ for every day of my stay, so 20 days it means 300$. What the fuck?

Usually registration fee you pay only once, no matter if you stay 1 or 20 days, so how is the truth and what I can do?

There will be problem if I will no register at all? Maybe just to bribe the police man at the exit?

Or may I pay the registration fee for example for just 3 days, so 45$ and I will not care of the rest of the days.

In russia in 2 months I got registered at arriving, then when I was in hotel, most of days I was in flat and no registered at all and when I exit nobody care.

Thanks so much.

It is a small one time fee to register. The agency must help to do it, it is not a big deal. $15 per day is bullshit. $15 total must be enough for everything. It looks like they found another way to get money from foreigners.

The police will take your passport for a few days and tell you when come back to pick it up.

You should carry your ticket and passport copy just in case. If they ask for registration you show them your arrival ticket and tell them that you just arrived and your passport is in "registration".

Also I believe if you're in Tashkent for up-to 3 days, then you do not need to register. Otherwise I would not fuck with them, bribes of course will help, but you would not know how much you will end up paying in case they stop you in the airport when leaving. They know you do not wanna miss your flight.

I've heard they've made problems even for locals in the airport. I only had a problem once with a overweight luggage. They told me you have to pay more like $20 in the "office" upstairs, or I can give the "manager" $10 now, so I do not need to go to upstairs. Anyways, depending how to look at it, it's an interesting central Asian experience.

[Goga Fung]

Are you sure that you understood the flat owner/broker correctly?

The official fee for registration is a very nominal amount--like $3 a day or perhaps even substantially less-but you have to often be present and spend hours in the neighboorhood immigration police statation--the same place where the girls get an ovir at (permission to leave the country).

Of my six or so trips to Tashkent 4 of the times the landlord took care of it for a $20 and my passport and another time I spent 10 hours in the damn office trying to get registered because I rented a flat from a lady who was new to the game. We ultimately gave up and paid $5 a day to some flea bag hotel that gave me a registration form--nothing more than a small sheet of paper with the hotel's stamp on it--for my five days or so that I was there.

Uzbek just is not meant for the casual tourist.

One time I was registered at a hotel but not for the full time that I was there and was stopped--like I always am-when trying to leave the country. I was able to talk myself out of it but you may not be so lucky.

A Belgian guy I know got hit up for a $1800 fine because he was not registered and they refused to let him go until he went to Court, etc.

Please note that a Westerner will rarely be able to directly bribe an Uzbek official. They have too much pride for that. You may be able to use an intermediary--an overpriced attorney or consultant--to pass the money on your behalf but I would be shocked if you were ever able to get out of any sort of violation by paying money directly to an Uzbek.

If I remember correctly, in all my trips(the last one was last December), the registration was about $5, one time fee. You go to the milicia with the apartment owner, and she should take care of everything.

I guess whatever else you pay $3/day, $20, etc... are some "service" fees.

It usually took 30min max to submit my passport if there was a line. But maybe it is different for a western passport. Still I'm very surprised one can spend there 10 hours, those guys never work so much. They actually like to close the doors about 4, so they can get out of work early.

I can only imaging those strange things happen there only for a reason that you are a foreigner who will eventually pay more.

What the Belgian guy paid $1800 is rediculous. Uzbek "officials" should be really happy with $100-$200.

Also before the flight back make sure the luggage does not exceed the limit(it can be different depending on flight), if it does you can have another funny experience of bribing in the airport.

[DirkDingy]

Prosal,

You and I are normally of like mind when it comes to matters discussed on this site and after some thought, I don't think that I can in good conscious reccomend Tashkent as a sex tourist destination.

I have seen one or two--and read of more than a few--people who come here and are totally disapointed by what they find. Tashkent is not some sort of untapped valhalla for Slavic women and there are major travel and compliance issues associated with this place.

I can completely fathom how a Pattaya or Rio fellow could spend a lot of time and money to get here only to be miserable upon arrival.

In short, as you have iterated, Tashkent is not an ideal place for a sex tourist or a mongerer but can be heaven for a Player.

[DirkDingy]

DirkDingy big thanks !

So it is as I thought, just a nominal price and at 99% the agency is trying to rip me off as, yes, I understood correctly, cause she wrote me the price will be 165$ ( 11$ X 16 days, these are her words... ).

Very good to know I can get in trouble without registration and that it is almost impossible to bribe policemen. ( about this, Russia wins over Uzb... ).

So I guess I have to pay such a high price with no second option.

P.S. "We ultimately gave up and paid $5 a day to some flea bag hotel that gave me a registration form".
This is a good idea, but as last chance, I prefer to avoid it as maybe I could be not so lucky and end to pay much more than 11$ per day.

Not so fast. They are not trying to rob you. It's just that they don't pay the official price either because they don't want to stand in line for 10 hours for the $10 a day or whatever their profit is as an apartment broker. But they are likely making some money off you as a $20 bribe should get the job done.

Dude, PM me and I will give you the info of a lady who rents flats who can get you registered. You may even get lucky like I did and bang the old broad.

[DirkDingy]

Dirk Dingy,

First of all, thanks for your input.

I'm planning a trip to Tashkent soon and need your advice.

What's the best way to get to Tashkent from the US/East Coast? Uzbek Air from JFK flies once a week on Tuesday, Turkish thru Istanbul (23 hrs eastbound) or Asiana (a whopping 43 hrs including layover -- w/o the lay in Seoul)?

Considering your observation that "normal" girls wouldn't be seen going into a hotel (at night, I presume), and that my "friend" has a daughter (so her place is out of the question), is an apartment the only alternative? I'm only going to be in Tashkent for 5 days.

And yes, I did meet her in Dubai.

Thanks in advance and I'll spring for a night out w/drinks when I get there.

It seems like all you guys are visiting hookers in Tashkent. LOL.

I have never flown to Tashkent via the US because the Embassy there used to be quite fickle about giving visas to Americans but that may have changed.

I have always gone through DXB or BKK. Uzbek air tickets from BKK or DXB are really expensive and around 700-800 bucks.

My advice would be to take the UZB air flight if you dont care about miles or get a cheap flight to DXB and take Uzb air into TAS.

***Uzbek air flights do earn miles on the star alliance network as of a few months ago though***

Or alternaively, you could get a cheap flight to Moscow and take a cheap flight to TAS...but you may have to switch airports and get a transit visa or whatever.

If you are only there for five days you need to make sure that the apt owner that you rent from knows the ins and outs of registation or you will spend a day and 1/2 of another one loitering about trying to get registered.

If this lady is your "girlfriend" she may not have qualms with going to a hotel with you if she checks in with you etc. It's just that it's very difficult to pick up a girl and have her agree to go back to hotel at 0100 in the am unless she is a hardcore hooker.

Heck, she is likely planning to hook you long term and may even invite you to stay with her. That's what this chick did with me even though she has a small son. I did not take her up on the offer as I would have felt weird.

Uzbek women are very traditional and think that a woman's worth is defined by the way she keeps the home, the way she cooks, and the way she fucks you. If her daughter is in middle school or older she understands the gist of this too and is likely already having dreams of living in a big house in America.

If you don't mind banging mommy in the apartment it's unlikely anyone in the house will either.

From one American to another, make sure that you leave this woman better off than how you found her and realize what you represent to her. If your long term interests don't coincide, understand that life is very hard for a single mom in Uzb and that your visit to her will likely be the highlight of her romantic life in a long time past and for a long time to come.

[Eros74]

DirkDingy big thanks !

So it is as I thought, just a nominal price and at 99% the agency is trying to rip me off as, yes, I understood correctly, cause she wrote me the price will be 165$ ( 11$ X 16 days, these are her words... ).

Very good to know I can get in trouble without registration and that it is almost impossible to bribe policemen. ( about this, Russia wins over Uzb... ).

So I guess I have to pay such a high price with no second option.

P.S. "We ultimately gave up and paid $5 a day to some flea bag hotel that gave me a registration form".
This is a good idea, but as last chance, I prefer to avoid it as maybe I could be not so lucky and end to pay much more than 11$ per day.

[DirkDingy]

Dear friends, one question, staying in apartment, how much is the fee of registration ???

I called a while ago the uzbek embassy at my country and they told me to ask to agency who rents me the flat.

The agency rents me apartment, tell me it is 15$ for every day of my stay, so 20 days it means 300$....what the fuck ???

Usually registration fee you pay only once, no matter if you stay 1 or 20 days, so how is the truth and what i can do ?

There will be problem if i will no register at all ? Maybe just to bribe the police man at the exit ?

Or may i pay the registration fee for example for just 3 days,so 45$ and i will not care of the rest of the days.

In russia in 2 months i got registered at arriving, then when i was in hotel, most of days i was in flat and no registered at all and when i exit nobody care.

Thanks so much.....

Are you sure that you understood the flat owner/broker correctly?

The official fee for registration is a very nominal amount--like $3 a day or perhaps even substantially less-but you have to often be present and spend hours in the neighboorhood immigration police statation--the same place where the girls get an ovir at (permission to leave the country).

Of my six or so trips to Tashkent 4 of the times the landlord took care of it for a $20 and my passport and another time I spent 10 hours in the damn office trying to get registered because I rented a flat from a lady who was new to the game. We ultimately gave up and paid $5 a day to some flea bag hotel that gave me a registration form--nothing more than a small sheet of paper with the hotel's stamp on it--for my five days or so that I was there.

Uzbek just is not meant for the casual tourist.

One time I was registered at a hotel but not for the full time that I was there and was stopped--like I always am-when trying to leave the country. I was able to talk myself out of it but you may not be so lucky.

A Belgian guy I know got hit up for a $1800 fine because he was not registered and they refused to let him go until he went to Court, etc.

Please note that a Westerner will rarely be able to directly bribe an Uzbek official. They have too much pride for that. You may be able to use an intermediary--an overpriced attorney or consultant--to pass the money on your behalf but I would be shocked if you were ever able to get out of any sort of violation by paying money directly to an Uzbek.

[Bukudala]

Dirk Dingy,

First of all, thanks for your input.

I'm planning a trip to Tashkent soon and need your advice.

What's the best way to get to Tashkent from the US/East Coast? Uzbek Air from JFK flies once a week on Tuesday, Turkish thru Istanbul (23 hrs eastbound) or Asiana (a whopping 43 hrs including layover -- w/o the lay in Seoul)?

Considering your observation that "normal" girls wouldn't be seen going into a hotel (at night, I presume), and that my "friend" has a daughter (so her place is out of the question), is an apartment the only alternative? I'm only going to be in Tashkent for 5 days.

And yes, I did meet her in Dubai.

Thanks in advance and I'll spring for a night out w/drinks when I get there.