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[OzzieSuds]

Speaking of juggling several girls at the same time, does anyone know of any cell phone that can hold more than one sim card at the same time? It's supposed to work like having several phones on at the same time. It can really solve my problems. I used to carry two cell phones with me at the same time, but now I read it at this site: http://www.intomobile.com/2007/06/15...ard-slots.html that they're available out there. I wonder if they're available in VN.

Someone in Singapore mentioned a device that is one SIM card but it uploads the data from two SIM cards and you can switch seamlessly between them. Never seen one in the flesh.

Technology in VN seems to lag behind in the hardware department so dont hold your breath.

I just keep on swapping cards - and losing them regularly.

[LexLuther]

Nonthab et al,

We must face facts. Once a girl learns the ease with which she can generate cash with that thing between her thighs, she becomes (or should become) a non-candidate for gf or wife. The reason is that as a wife or gf, she will never submit herself to the authority of a man. It's impossible. To her, a man is now a customer. He's someone who wants only one thing from life with her. She can and will make him pay for it as a good hooker should.

She disrespects men and can no longer love them. The first time you and she have an argument, she will (without thinking) fall back on what she knows will work. She will bolt the relationship, knowing that she has no reason to depend on or reason with you. She can always make more than enough money to survive. Why should she put up with your crap?

That's cold and harsh but it's the truth. When push comes to shove, she will remember the good parts of being a hooker (the money) and forget the bad (being a hooker). I know. I've been there and done that.

You may consider taking to wife a "non-professional" woman, the advantages over taking an American wife being:

1.) VN women are beautiful
2.) VN women are approachable and available
3.) VN women are by nature submissive, pliable, and loyal

The problem is that once she comes to the U.S., she will eventually learn the "American way." and all of these advantages will evaporate. This may take some time, but will eventually happen.

Take it from old Lex. He knows from bitter experience.

LexLuther

[Jkdman909]

Damn. If you consider that a girlfriend, I don't even want to know what you think a wife is. LOL

After 6 months of livin & lovin in HCMC I've finally takin the plunge and got myself a gf.

She's a total hottie of the type I prefer. Very friendly, reasonable English, honest and obedient.

She's been working as a waitress for a while, she would go with a foreigner maybe once or twice a week, including me. So I figured all the money I've spent on her & others would be best consolidated. So now I give her 5m VND a month for exclusivity and sex on tap. As well she will bring over a friend whenever I want and she's not allowed to go with any guys.

Of course she may well go with other guys but I have warned her if she breaks this rule then it's over. So she's got enough rope to hang herself, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

I've also made it clear there is no other money available for emergencies or anything. She seems happy with all this as she's quit her job now and has some free time.

Can't wait for her to bring over her sister, yum yum!

I'll borrow my housemates camera at some point & post some body pics.

I'll also be saving some money on Vietnamese lessons.

In total I think it's a good deal.

[Columpuss]

Nonthab

Reality check dude, you must be really young or never been out there.
First, she's a booty call, not a gf. Fixed income for a booty call is a no no
She's a waitress and hooks on the side or should i say hook to live and work to cover up, honest and obedient? think again.
She's not allowed to go with other guys? for free she won't
I've seen a billion guys like you around, many are my friends, the same story and the same ending, and not a good one.
All of this is good for her though!

[Nonthab]

After 6 months of livin & lovin in HCMC I've finally takin the plunge and got myself a gf.

She's a total hottie of the type I prefer. Very friendly, reasonable English, honest and obedient.

She's been working as a waitress for a while, she would go with a foreigner maybe once or twice a week, including me. So I figured all the money I've spent on her & others would be best consolidated. So now I give her 5m VND a month for exclusivity and sex on tap. As well she will bring over a friend whenever I want and she's not allowed to go with any guys.

Of course she may well go with other guys but I have warned her if she breaks this rule then it's over. So she's got enough rope to hang herself, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

I've also made it clear there is no other money available for emergencies or anything. She seems happy with all this as she's quit her job now and has some free time.

Can't wait for her to bring over her sister, yum yum!

I'll borrow my housemates camera at some point & post some body pics.

I'll also be saving some money on Vietnamese lessons.

In total I think it's a good deal.

[Playsafe]

And Playsafe is right because soon you are juggling several and management becomes an issue.

Speaking of juggling several girls at the same time, does anyone know of any cell phone that can hold more than one sim card at the same time? It's supposed to work like having several phones on at the same time. It can really solve my problems. I used to carry two cell phones with me at the same time, but now I read it at this site: http://www.intomobile.com/2007/06/15...ard-slots.html that they're available out there. I wonder if they're available in VN.

[OzzieSuds]

Many thanks, Sudsoz. That was good advice, and I'll give it a try. But I suspect that not too many of us will have the success rate that you have. You must be a Tom Cruise look-alike! :-)

I am well over fifty, overweight with thinning grey hair - definitely no film star.

The girls are attracted for the other reasons mentioned and if you are nice to them they do respond.

And Playsafe is right because soon you are juggling several and management becomes an issue.

[Playsafe]

Many thanks, Sudsoz. That was good advice, and I'll give it a try. But I suspect that not too many of us will have the success rate that you have. You must be a Tom Cruise look-alike! :-)

No, you don't have to be a TC look-alike to get girls in VN. You just have to be friendly & with a lot of cash. If so many fat & bald Taiwanese in wheelchairs are able to marry the 18 year old virgins, I don't see how normal people like us can't get girls in VN.

If you have only 2-3 day time, Gossip & Catwalk would be your best bet. Be sure to come with a lot of cash with you. These are not your typical motorbike girls.

Sudoz gave you great suggestions. If you're VK or able to speak Vietnamese, Hat Voi Nhau places would not be a bad choice.

My problem is how to keep the normal girls apart.

Good luck hunting.

[Fw190]

Many thanks, Sudsoz. That was good advice, and I'll give it a try. But I suspect that not too many of us will have the success rate that you have. You must be a Tom Cruise look-alike! :-)

2 or 3 days might be a bit tight but I have found willing participants in shop assistants, waitresses, travel assistants, hairdressers, even a girl who runs an antique shop with her father. They all want to practise their english and spend some time in a more monied environment.

One of the more productive things to do is to sit and take coffee on the street around Dong Khoi around 9 AM and smile and say hello to all the girls who pass by going to work. About half will stop and chat and a good proportion will be up for more. Is is a numbers game and some will yield results and some will come to nought.

Do not tell them you are leaving until you are about to go and give them the impression you will be back soon as this gives them a feeling that there will be some continuity.

[OzzieSuds]

Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places. Please tell me where can I find a natural GFE in Saigon or Hanoi, when I'm in town just for 2 to 3 days?

2 or 3 days might be a bit tight but I have found willing participants in shop assistants, waitresses, travel assistants, hairdressers, even a girl who runs an antique shop with her father. They all want to practise their english and spend some time in a more monied environment.

One of the more productive things to do is to sit and take coffee on the street around Dong Khoi around 9 AM and smile and say hello to all the girls who pass by going to work. About half will stop and chat and a good proportion will be up for more. Is is a numbers game and some will yield results and some will come to nought.

Do not tell them you are leaving until you are about to go and give them the impression you will be back soon as this gives them a feeling that there will be some continuity.

[Fw190]

Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places. Please tell me where can I find a natural GFE in Saigon or Hanoi, when I'm in town just for 2 to 3 days?

Some people just want it too easy.

If you want to pay around US$300 for a highly commercial experience in HKG rather than US$60 for a natural girl friend experience then that's your choice.

[OzzieSuds]

FW,

The hotels I'm talking about are not sleazy st hotels but simple inexpensive hotels that many people stay in. Cost $25-$35USD.

Just an amplification of this.

The hotels that DF is talking about are the small 1&2* establishments that provide good clean accommodation with very personalised service that includes welcoming your female guests and watching your ass for you.

The sleazy ST hotels that FW is referring to are the places where the gals from the HBT bars will take you. They are indeed sleazy and worse but these are not the same establishments that DF is referring to.

[Dragonfly22]

FW,

The hotels I'm talking about are not sleazy st hotels but simple inexpensive hotels that many people stay in. Cost $25-$35USD.

[OzzieSuds]

Well, to be honest, the problem might be partly me. When I'm there on a short business trip, I don't have the time to trawl the HBT bars. And I've tried and don't like the often-sleezy short-term hotels, not to mention that I'm working for a well-known international company and would be fired in a heartbeat if I ever got involved in a hotel room theft or police bust. Some people do very well mongering in VN, and I guess you're one of the lucky ones. My only point was that HK and Macau seem like paradise in comparison with the problems that face the mongerer in VN. Cheers.

Some people just want it too easy.

If you want to pay around US$300 for a highly commercial experience in HKG rather than US$60 for a natural girl friend experience then that's your choice.

[Fw190]

Well, to be honest, the problem might be partly me. When I'm there on a short business trip, I don't have the time to trawl the HBT bars. And I've tried and don't like the often-sleezy short-term hotels, not to mention that I'm working for a well-known international company and would be fired in a heartbeat if I ever got involved in a hotel room theft or police bust. Some people do very well mongering in VN, and I guess you're one of the lucky ones. My only point was that HK and Macau seem like paradise in comparison with the problems that face the mongerer in VN. Cheers.

How can you go to HCMC and not score? You can literally fall off a chair and land in pussy up to your eyesballs. So many girls and so little time is how I see it. The only real problem is keeping them apart. They get too clingy after they have been with you once or twice. Short trips to SaiGon are the best. Check into a small hotel, tell the security guard you want a girl, 10 minutes later your into some trim. Whats the problem?