Hanoi

[David Cohen]

Sorry for late reply.

1/ Yes.

2/ Contact via text in VNese as they don't speak english, you google translate. You can mention the sites where you got her number too.

3/ If she works she will reply you what time and hotel name, you can ask her for address, or google it.

4/ When you reach hotel, ask for a short stay room 1 h-2 h. Normally local don't need ID, but you can give them your ID, no problem. When you get to the room, text the girl your room number and wait, normally she should be there in 5-10 min.

5/ Hotel / Motal only charge the room, the tip you give the girl directly in the room, after the service, not before.

From my experience, when you mention you are a ThienDia.Com's member (the biggest vietnamese adult review community) they tend to provide better service, because they know if they don't do good job, they may get a bad review on a popular site. Which hurts their business.

Tips:

- You can text multiple girls in the same area, chances are they may also works in the same hotel or very close. So if one of them does not show up (sometimes happens) or does not look too good, you can kindly refuse and get another girl in the same area. So you don't get blue balls lolz.

Thank you for this, looks like this might be the easiest way to monger in Hanoi.

I read the past few pages and information on thiendia / timgaigoi; would like someone to confirm if my understanding of communicating with a lady is correct.

1. Use a local Vietnam SIM.

2. Contact the phone number provided and ask the lady for here availability. Does the website that her information was found on need to be mentioned?

3. If everything works out OK, she will reply with the hotel address.

4. When you reach the hotel, do you ask the front desk for a room for 2 hours? Is an ID usually needed?

5. Does the front desk only charge for the room, and is the tip for the lady paid to her directly?

Apologies if the questions were too basic, but some things were probably lost in translation in my reading, and this being my first time in Vietnam would greatly appreciate understanding the basics.

Cheers lads.

[Penguin69]

Some time ago I discovered the various "gaigoi" (call girls) websites kieunuviet, kynu, thiendiam gailamtien, girlchanh. And normally found quickly what I want. Straight forward sex at a pre-agreed price. However, recently things got a bit complicated. Some of the pages seem to be inactive or have changed names. Check when the girl last posted a picture or a guest wrote a comment. Many girls do not respond, perhaps they are afraid when they see there is a foreigner asking. Of course most do not speak any English, but technology can solve this. One girl, priced at 300 k, recently showed me a google translation "from foreigners I take 800". Also the mini-hotels get nosy, asking for your passport (copy). But as I am leaving Vietnam soon; I would like to share my favourite girl "Ngan Body". I did not see her on any of the websites anymore, but she is still working. And how she is working! The best BJ I ever had, and real good FS. Here is the 1st part of her number 097. And the best of all. She speaks a decent English. The hotel she is using is a bit difficult to find the first time "Phuong Dong", off Nguyen Khanh Toan st, but its worth the search. 25963, that is how the number ends. Have fun!

Good to have a specific rec like this girl. Is that number correct? Is she on zalo, line etc? Did she offer 2 shots for extra? I assume BJ was a BBBJ?

Also, the girls met through the sites mentioned- I assume it included FS, BJ (BBBJ is common? Typically 1 shot, 2? Google map seems to locate street and hotel mentioned ok.

Thanks for extra info available.

[FigTree]

Some time ago I discovered the various "gaigoi" (call girls) websites kieunuviet, kynu, thiendiam gailamtien, girlchanh. And normally found quickly what I want. Straight forward sex at a pre-agreed price. However, recently things got a bit complicated. Some of the pages seem to be inactive or have changed names. Check when the girl last posted a picture or a guest wrote a comment. Many girls do not respond, perhaps they are afraid when they see there is a foreigner asking. Of course most do not speak any English, but technology can solve this. One girl, priced at 300 k, recently showed me a google translation "from foreigners I take 800". Also the mini-hotels get nosy, asking for your passport (copy). But as I am leaving Vietnam soon; I would like to share my favourite girl "Ngan Body". I did not see her on any of the websites anymore, but she is still working. And how she is working! The best BJ I ever had, and real good FS. Here is the 1st part of her number 097. And the best of all. She speaks a decent English. The hotel she is using is a bit difficult to find the first time "Phuong Dong", off Nguyen Khanh Toan st, but its worth the search. 25963, that is how the number ends. Have fun!

[Daniel0505]

This is not my first time in Hanoi, and have found the Hot Tocs to be a bit impersonal though a great source for action which is what I am after. However, I wanted to try to get some in my hotel this time around.

Using weChat I quickly got some ads and asked for pictures. Mistake number 1: don't believe the pictures.

Some negotiation in very broken English and we agreed on 500 K. I wisely let the hotel desk know that a "work friend" would be coming around to deliver some papers.

She showed up at my hotel and, surprise, was not the picture I had expected! She tried to convince me that the picture was her, just perhaps a bit dated. Yea, right. I let her know I was disappointed but. Have RTFF. Remember someone mentioning that with age comes experience, and it might be a good trade off. So, on to a back massage which was not terrible but not the best, then straight on giving junior some attention. Tickling and manual work led to a very average but slow and efficient BJ, partial CIM and HJ finishing. Somewhat disappointing final, but a final none the less. Far from the best I've ever had.

When I handed her the pre-prepared 500 K, I then realized my Mistake #2: she (or whoever was writing her wechats, because her spoken English was far from even the partial fluency of her written English.) had actually written "Massage 500 K", which I showed her, then later in the chat "Massage Baby 500 K", which she showed me. Apparently "Baby" is the key word and she was implying 500 K for the BJ on top of the massage. A debate ensued, she in Vietnamese, me in English, and we agreed on 700 K (which is all I had visible in my wallet).

Advice #1: picture is no guarantee of what will show up;.

Advice #2: warn your hotel! In mine it worked a treat, no problems.

Advice #3: prepare the maximum amount you are prepared to spend (imagine a tip if all goes well) and hide the rest of your cash, passport, etc.

I am still on the prowl for 18 - 20)girls willing to party, and in Hanoi & HCMC for another couple of weeks. If anyone is interested in doing some mongering together (sharing a girl or two?) I'm up for the challenge, PM me!

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[Penguin69]

Hai Bay Hotel is girl friendly and after 10 pm guests must leave ID at reception.

[FordHarsh]

There used to be some street with walkers, but not many because with internet, everything is available online.

Check out site like http://thiendia.com/diendan/tim-gai-goi or https://timgaigoi.com/.

You might find something you like, good luck.

Thank you for this, looks like this might be the easiest way to monger in Hanoi.

I read the past few pages and information on thiendia / timgaigoi; would like someone to confirm if my understanding of communicating with a lady is correct.

1. Use a local Vietnam SIM.

2. Contact the phone number provided and ask the lady for here availability. Does the website that her information was found on need to be mentioned?

3. If everything works out OK, she will reply with the hotel address.

4. When you reach the hotel, do you ask the front desk for a room for 2 hours? Is an ID usually needed?

5. Does the front desk only charge for the room, and is the tip for the lady paid to her directly?

Apologies if the questions were too basic, but some things were probably lost in translation in my reading, and this being my first time in Vietnam would greatly appreciate understanding the basics.

Cheers lads.

[Jovak]

The good and the bad:

If all was good I would probably not bother contributing to the forum, just keep leeching your good advice.

First came to Hanoi October 18', had enough fun with a couple of girls who wanted to fuck for their own selfish reasons. Nothing beats a girl that's actually hot for you. Under normal circumstance. So didn't do much mongering. Just once.

**I wasn't trying to be a player, but with enough ground work on dating apps was lucky to find a couple of consenting adults who weren't looking for anything serious, or any pretensions and promises I wouldn't keep. Both well above average good looking.

Still couldn't ignore one piece of ISG advice "go to Windy the girls are hot and crazy".

Windy massage:

Took an extra for mutual bath. In hindsight could have done without. Can't remember now, but think it was 1200000 vnd (or 1500000.2 and 5 are visually interchangeable. With time and ripe age).

Should be an even million without.

Passed on the first girl. I totally could have, but. Wasn't a knockout and I was curious to see who else was around.

In came a smallish cutey, who became smaller and flatter ass-side when the heels came off.

The blowjob was unfair. Mind bending. I was struggling to hold, didn't want it to stop. No spoilers will be disclosed, just try it.

Sometimes I tend to pop my first rather quickly, other times it takes a blessed forever. There's a whole psychology to it. I might figure out when it's too late. One way it sometimes works, is that when I'm at ease I can last longer, and when I'm stressed I pop. At Windy's I might have been quick regardless. This theme will be continued, under the BAD column for Hanoi, as 2 pops are an expensive rarity.

After I was done, she went to the bath and coughed like bloody hell to sort something out in her throat. Was a bit off putting but also seemed part of the routine.

Her massage skills were actually good. She was a natural. Cracked my back with expertise many massage-only therapists lack.

Some previous posts talked about amateurs / semi-pros who fucked them at leisure, not minding time, hanging out and repeating. Apparently this was a wechat thing, and switched now to Line app. Where you can browse for random people around you.

From my experience, every hot girl that propositioned me. On dating apps or messenger apps like wechat or Line. Uniformly will ask for more than 1 million vnd for 1 shot. If you counter with asking for 2 shot, they just double the asking.

Did not luck on an amateur with a longer game yet.

If their photos are so-so, they might offer a longer massage + sex for the same amount (1. 2-1. 4 m), body massage for less, or just sex for less. Today I had one girl with honest photos offering everything for 800 k, another offering body massage for 500 k, and another offering 90 minutes massage + 1 shot sex for 1. 2 m.

Went with the last, who seemed cute, willing, and followed up with a cute face on a videocall. (no body visible though).

When she came she was on the short and stocky side, and I was trying to figure out what to do without making it a scene for the neighbors.

Once inside I offered her to do half the time for half the money, take some nice BJ pics, and la di the. But instead of just saying I'm tired as excuse for opting out of the full 90 min, I did the mistake of pointing out the pictures were misleading.

She didn't take it well, the half and half offer didn't register, she was upset. Honestly I'd rather go through with it than playing to a big girl's insecurities, hooker or not. She was a nice girl. But maybe I felt a little cheated with the pics, and didn't come up with the obvious "sorry I'm tired lets cut it short".

She asked for taxi money, how much? 200 k. Gave her 400 k and apologized for sending her away.

Messaged another girl from line, who earlier offered the usual 1 shot for 1.3 m. Couldn't bring her down because she had a long way to get to my neighborhood.

I was running through 3 different ATMs to make up for the money I was now missing, excited though because she was gorgeous on the pics, like real special pretty and super nice legs. Actually ran back home with flip flops because she was already waiting at my door.

Arrived at my building, girl wasn't amazing like I hoped. But hot. The English she wrote on Line evaporated. Barely 2 words strung together. She tried more Viet than Eng.

Still, not bad looking, nice enough, and cheery enough. Up the stairs.

Rush job. Cut the BJ short, didn't like being on top, wanted me to fuck her quick and get it over with.

I wouldn't cooperate. Fought the pop. When it came close I slowed or pulled out, trying to change positions. Most of the time she complained. I did ask her at some point if she was OK, google translating, when she seemed dejected and generally pooped.

She urged me to get it over with already because she wants to go home. I asked her if she wanted to just go home, she pointed to her ass and gestured. I finally did as asked and popped.

BTW, I'm not even 40 and still in good shape, teeth all there fairly straight, not really at all ugly. Barring delusions. So that's not the reason for anything. She complained about size at first, but honestly I'm the universal average so I call BS.

She gets dressed, still nice but now a little antsy, gets paid, out the gate, and I stayed long enough to see someone was waiting for her with a regular bike (not a grab, not a car), and not the expensive taxi she said she had to take as excuse for not going below 1. 3 m.

In general, I'm not completely bummed, but could do without tonight.

The girl calls herself Thao Mai on Line, the phone she used to call me was 09020##486 (obscuring some numbers, just in case there's some forum rule about this).

Probably a bait and switch. Not the worst, but not for me.

Could be a good experience for a Master Dongler (username anyone?) with no hangups who just wants to destroy some pussy and still thinks in $$ western currency buying power (what's 50 Euro).

For me, this isn't the way to go in VN.

I would rather find a hotel used by several girls I like on Kynu or GaiGoi, and string 2-3 300-600 k girls one after another.

When considering the 1 shot system, I've had possibly my best sex in Europe for 120 e / HR, without a pop limit. This released me from the pressure and I could blow as pleased and make my 2nd and / or 3rd pop last much longer. Which I did.

With decent girls asking for 400 k (1 shot), to pay a girl 2.4 million for 2 shots, is the European equivalent of paying a hooker upwards of 800 euro an hour, which makes for a different kind of experience. Less casual, and more like a skinning ritual of rich foreigners.

I might try another one of those Line girls, just to contribute a fair statistical sample to the forum. But the judgement for now, is go for the more common local option of 300-800 k hotel hookers (kynu, gaigoi etc), go to specialty massage places you might want to try out, try hooking up with bar / club hookers, but careful with the app propositions in the 1.2-1.5 m a shot range. Its probably pot luck.

And if you can, find a local who just wants an honest dick, and give it to her. My thumb rule. If you don't see yourself sleeping with her twice, don't do it once. Mutual is good. Bad karma goes straight to the ulcer.

Vietnamese are generally easy about sex. And at the same time many are traditional. One girl I dated gave me a free pass, asked me straight if I was seeing other girls, didn't flinch when I said I did, told me I should try some hookers, and that she'll let me know when she starts liking me enough for it to be a problem.

Photo: Thao Mai (or actually not Thao Mai).

[David Cohen]

Guys,

I will be in Hanoi for about three days in the third week of May. Request pointers to some good girl friendly hotels and other mongering tips.

Most hotels in Hanoi are girls friendly.

Lot of information here already, if you have specific questions feel free to ask.

Enjoy!

[BeirutGuy]

Guys,

I will be in Hanoi for about three days in the third week of May. Request pointers to some good girl friendly hotels and other mongering tips.

[David Cohen]

Maybe you could try Nuru massage with oil.

A video Hanoi nuru massage my buddy sent me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEI0AcyKlnU.

My back was in need for a massage, so I visited one of the many AMPS in the old quarter. I forgot the exact name but it was on Pho Ma May. The rate for 1 h of Vietnamese massage I negotiated down to 300 k Dong. The room on the 1st floor was quite basic, but was spacious, clean and offered complete privacy. There was only a common shower on the corridor, but since my hotel was nearby, this was not a problem.

Miss W was quite attractive (my guess late 20 ies), but her English was very limited. Her massage was a bit on the softer side, but this sent me off to sleep for a few minutes. My junior was awakened when she worked the inside of my tights. She asked whether he also wants a massage. Communication was bit difficult, but I understood that only HJ is available. She asked for 500 k for the extra service. I countered 300 k to which she agreed after a while I hope I didn't spoil too much the local prices. The HJ was nothing special, but relieved me of any tensions left in my body.

Place: 6/10.

Lady: 7/10.

Massage: 7/10.

Extras: 5/10.

WIR: nothing special, for sure there are better options in Hanoi.

[Rudy R]

My back was in need for a massage, so I visited one of the many AMPS in the old quarter. I forgot the exact name but it was on Pho Ma May. The rate for 1 h of Vietnamese massage I negotiated down to 300 k Dong. The room on the 1st floor was quite basic, but was spacious, clean and offered complete privacy. There was only a common shower on the corridor, but since my hotel was nearby, this was not a problem.

Miss W was quite attractive (my guess late 20 ies), but her English was very limited. Her massage was a bit on the softer side, but this sent me off to sleep for a few minutes. My junior was awakened when she worked the inside of my tights. She asked whether he also wants a massage. Communication was bit difficult, but I understood that only HJ is available. She asked for 500 k for the extra service. I countered 300 k to which she agreed after a while – I hope I didn't spoil too much the local prices. The HJ was nothing special, but relieved me of any tensions left in my body.

Place: 6/10.

Lady: 7/10.

Massage: 7/10.

Extras: 5/10.

WIR: nothing special, for sure there are better options in Hanoi.

[JohnJShell]

Have not tried Adagrin. Have tried Megafort, also Vietnamese, suggested by my pharmacist friend. Works for about 2.5 days for me but is very hard to find. D5 is your best bet. Pharmacy in Vui Vien street knew what the product but did not have it on hand. Offered to order it for me. Good luck.

Don't waste your money on drugs made in VN. They have no standards for dissolving and absorption into the body, this is why many hospitals don't use VN made drugs (this is slowly changing, but a long ways off to be better). YOu can buy viagara in pharmacies, 4 pack of tabs and still pretty inexpensive as I recall.

GG.

Thanks guys, I can give you an update.

Went to Family Medical Practice on Kim Ma and two European doctors that I spoke to there suggested that it's worth trying Adagrin even if the standards for dissolving / absorption aren't tested properly, as the active ingredient is still the same.

At the same time, I also obtained a prescription for Pfizer Viagra (50 MG / tab) which was fairly expensive at just over $8 per tablet. However these are the real deal and I got them from the pharmacy in the Medical Practice.

Will give Adagrin a go soon so will report back with whether it's any good, especially as it's an eighth of the price of Pfizer Viagra.

Cheers,

J.

[PoohKeyLover]

Visited Neko Nuru massage yesterday and was happy I did. I arrived at about 10:45 AM just before they opened (they open at 11:00). Walked into the first floor lobby and a young man asked if I wanted a massage. I said yes and he took me to the elevator and rode with me to the fourth floor. He gave me a glass of cold water and asked me to wait. When he came back he handed me the menu card and I told him I wanted the one hour VIP. It costs 600 k dong for the room plus 600 k dong for the tip. I paid the full amount and he took me to a nice, clean massage room with a bed, steam shower and jacuzzi tub. He turned the water on to let the tub fill and asked me to wait. I waited for about 10 minutes when a beautiful, tiny girl knocked on the door and came in. She was wearing a tight red dress and high heels. She was very cute and had a perfect little body. Not too big in the chest, but perfect. Why shaped. She invited me to undress and get in the steam shower. The glass on the steam shower was fogged up but I could see her undress and get into the tub. I was in the steam shower for about 10 minutes and finally came out on my own. She had a towel wrapped around her naked body and invited me to get in the tub. She took off the towel and joined me in the tub washing my body. Paying special attention to my sensitive spots. We got out and dried off then she asked me to lay face down on the bed. She gave me a so-so dry massage and then brought out the Nuru jelly..

How many shots do they allow?

[EatALotOpus]

Hi there,

Now I have a question. Has anyone tried using Adagrin? It's Sildenafil citrate but manufactured by a Vietnamese pharma company, only sold in VN. 3 pack is around 90000 VND, wondered if it's legit / safe and worth the effort?

Cheers,

J.

Have not tried Adagrin. Have tried Megafort, also Vietnamese, suggested by my pharmacist friend. Works for about 2.5 days for me but is very hard to find. D5 is your best bet. Pharmacy in Vui Vien street knew what the product but did not have it on hand. Offered to order it for me. Good luck.

[Geneva Guy]

Hi there,

Been a long-time lurker but thought I'd offer some advice as I've been living and working in both Hanoi and HCMC for a good few years now.

Wechat seems to be dead or close to dead in Hanoi, been like this since around November time last year and all I seem to get are very few female profiles, and those that I get are all ones with Chinese text.

Note that I've tried with multiple different SIMs on Vietnamobile, Viettel, etc and it doesn't seem to make a difference unfortunately.

I did have a good time with Wechat last year and the year before. The majority of the girls I met were students and they lived in the Cau Giay / My Dinh areas of Hanoi. I was arranging to meet girls in Nha Nghis around that area and paying around 1 million for one hour (and as many shots as wanted), however that is certainly not the norm any more unfortunately.

For HCMC it was the opposite. Pimps controlling the profiles, standard $60/ shot and no negotiation. Way more mechanical and not worth the effort.

There is an alternative, all the WGs have moved to Line. Get that app on your mobile and you shouldn't have too much problem for ST hookups, prices range from 1. 2 million to 1. 5 million for one shot and there are some seriously beautiful girls out there (although many are just going through the motions and want to get out as quick as possible. Connections are rare but I have made some that are now regular calls away).

Some are possible to negotiate to 1 shot for the same price, but it needs effort and a connection to get there or they will raise up to 2 million minimum.

For those that have the time, there's also Tinder and VietnamCupid for dating girls. Seems to work aok and if you have the time to date, it has a better hit rate.

I'm generally going on two dates before sex, and then I have 3 on the go at any one time.

Now I have a question. Has anyone tried using Adagrin? It's Sildenafil citrate but manufactured by a Vietnamese pharma company, only sold in VN. 3 pack is around 90000 VND, wondered if it's legit / safe and worth the effort?

Cheers,

J.

Don't waste your money on drugs made in VN. They have no standards for dissolving and absorption into the body, this is why many hospitals don't use VN made drugs (this is slowly changing, but a long ways off to be better). YOu can buy viagara in pharmacies, 4 pack of tabs and still pretty inexpensive as I recall.

GG.