Hanoi

[Firebird]

Having enjoyed the girls in Sao Paulo, Prague, Singapore, Manila, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Jakarta and many other places, I must in summary state that Hanoi is not the best place to punt.

I am sure I did many things here not right in the short time I am here, but the two girls I did have, one overnight from KTV and the second ST from one of the internet site I met in hotel, were very mechanical and just wanted the VD. Nothing more. Jakarta is better and so is Manila and Shanghai. In the end the game here is not the best.

Once again, I must state that I did not do things correctly and I definitely overpaid!! Lesson for the future. I am sure others had better luck and more fun.

Tuesday I fly to the Philippines. Girls really take care of you there!!

To all. Stay safe!

Firebird.

[Firebird]

I tried one of those websites offering girls to come to meet you at local hotel. Have never tried this so why not. Used the checkerviet site and set and appointment to meet a girl. Did not want to for the low cost, so went bit higher. I got to the hotel and got a room for short time. Sent a tx message to girl advising the room number.

Well to make the long story short, this was really a "slam bang. Thank you ma'am" type of event.

Once the deed was done, she was dressed and gone in a flash. It was okay but not something I will again repeat.

[Firebird]

Walking to my hotel last night in the Old Quarter a moto driver stopped and asked if I wanted a pretty girl, showing me all these glamorous photos on his cell. As I was walking away rejecting his offer, he convinced me "just to look". So I hopped on to do some are&the. Haha!. I guess against my better judgment. The ride was short and we arrived at this place with sign "Lady Massage". Hmmm. Interesting!

Anyway, walking in, I was led to a very small room where four girls were sitting waiting for customers. One or two looked pretty. But the place was a mess. I said "thanks" and walked out.

Oh yeah on the way in, there were three "burly" guys sitting. Must be the enforcers. The fee was 1000 K VD, but I am sure there would be many "extra payments" for standard services that the enforcers would squeeze out of you if you objected.

I am still trying to figure out the area around Hanoi Old Quarters and how to find "safe" talent. I sure miss the bars of BKK or MNL where you can free to select.

I hear in HCM it is much easier to find girls. Well back to some are&the to see what I can come up with here in Hanoi Old Quarter.

Stay safe!

[Firebird]

Last year Nov, went to Rose Spa, near Intercon since it was close by.

Can you provide the address for Rose Spa near the Intercon?

[Newser8008]

What is theindia.com? Redirects to another page?

1. Last year Nov, went to Rose Spa, near Intercon since it was close by. Room, 700 k, girl tip 700 k / girl. Room was nice, large, comfy and luxurious (hence the price tag).

- First time, had 2 girls, total damage 2100 vnd. The hot one wasn't very enthusiastic but the second one was crazy horny. The massage wasn't bad either and the session lasted fulll 90 minutes. Usually 1 shot / girl.

- Second time, had a single girl but she straight upfront told me she was tired and I was last customer for the day. Session was ok-ish but she did give me Nuru massage for 70 bucks!

2. Went to windy Vip this time. 2 girls, Room 600 k, girl tip 500 k / girl, total damage 1600 kvnd. Man the girls are hot and insane. Imaging this: One giving you a hot-milk BJ with her other hand on your butt, the other sucking your nipples while I was sucking hers. Both my hands were in each of their panties. I did not last very long. LOL..

[RaviJambua]

1. Last year Nov, went to Rose Spa, near Intercon since it was close by. Room, 700 k, girl tip 700 k / girl. Room was nice, large, comfy and luxurious (hence the price tag).

- First time, had 2 girls, total damage 2100 vnd. The hot one wasn't very enthusiastic but the second one was crazy horny. The massage wasn't bad either and the session lasted fulll 90 minutes. Usually 1 shot / girl.

- Second time, had a single girl but she straight upfront told me she was tired and I was last customer for the day. Session was ok-ish but she did give me Nuru massage for 70 bucks!

2. Went to windy Vip this time. 2 girls, Room 600 k, girl tip 500 k / girl, total damage 1600 kvnd. Man the girls are hot and insane. Imaging this: One giving you a hot-milk BJ with her other hand on your butt, the other sucking your nipples while I was sucking hers. Both my hands were in each of their panties. I did not last very long. LOL.

But the rooms were shaby, massage was non-existent and once I had my 2 shots within 50 ish minutes, out the door. May repeat.

So between these at least, if you prefer a nicer ambience and better massage, Rose is the place. If you want to get blown, Windy.

3. Wechat / Zalos. Zalos came to be a dead end. Wechat, found a few mongers, and a couple of independent girls. Haggled down to 500/ shot or 1500 overnight. The girl who agreed turned out to be a no-show. Second was. Wasn't big enough to catch my taste. Anyways, worth it if you have the dedication.

4. theindia.com , still need to try. Msged a couple of them but got no response back. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

[TakingChances]

Here's my few words on a trip I had in Vietnam few months ago.

Arrived in DaNang for a couple of days, then went to Hanoi then Sapa.

Danang.

Prior to arriving in DaNang, had some Tinder action and chatted with this funny Viet girl. We got along and she even picked me up at the airport. Short hair, tattoos, not as attractive as on the pictures but fun.

She was going to a party with some friends at a bar and I joined. Few hours later, trashed, she takes me out for dinner and picks up the bill: her way to welcome me in DaNang!

We headed to my hotel to finish off the night, but she was a little chubby and not quite to my taste. She was also playing the dead-fish. I did a bit of touching here and there and then just decided to sleep.

Next day decided to try out Bamboo Green. Was mid afternoon. Premises are pretty old. Small cost (can't remember) for massage. Brought to a room with shower where I'm told to wait. Comes in I'd say some 35+ woman, thin but ugly. Tells me to strip and take a shower. After the shower I hop on the massage table and she starts her massage. Was pretty decent and eventually offers me a BJ for 500 K. I would have gladly accepted but she was just too damn scary. I then felt sorry for her and tipped her 100 and then left.

Hanoi..

Very nice report, thank you. It mirrors my experience with civilians in HCMC. I like the courting game too so I look forward to your report on Manila as I am seriously considering my next destination. I found the semi pros to be best bet in HCMC. Bar girls, massage girls, KTV girls but you also need time to find out if services are available for each individual girl. Peace out, TC.

[Squashed]

Here's my few words on a trip I had in Vietnam few months ago.

Arrived in DaNang for a couple of days, then went to Hanoi then Sapa.

Danang.

Prior to arriving in DaNang, had some Tinder action and chatted with this funny Viet girl. We got along and she even picked me up at the airport. Short hair, tattoos, not as attractive as on the pictures but fun.

She was going to a party with some friends at a bar and I joined. Few hours later, trashed, she takes me out for dinner and picks up the bill: her way to welcome me in DaNang!

We headed to my hotel to finish off the night, but she was a little chubby and not quite to my taste. She was also playing the dead-fish. I did a bit of touching here and there and then just decided to sleep.

Next day decided to try out Bamboo Green. Was mid afternoon. Premises are pretty old. Small cost (can't remember) for massage. Brought to a room with shower where I'm told to wait. Comes in I'd say some 35+ woman, thin but ugly. Tells me to strip and take a shower. After the shower I hop on the massage table and she starts her massage. Was pretty decent and eventually offers me a BJ for 500 K. I would have gladly accepted but she was just too damn scary. I then felt sorry for her and tipped her 100 and then left.

Hanoi.

Had this girl that I connected with on Tinder. We spent the evening together and she was quite fun. She just didn't want to come back to my hotel that night. We agreed to see each other the next day, but prior to meeting, I wanted to make sure that some action would take place, in order not to waste my time. Follows some blablabla where she tells me, she's not that kind of girl and so on. I drop the idea and we never met again.

Decided to to go to that Moscow Sauna thing. It's a short bike ride from the old quarter. It's located in a residential area, basically surrounded by apartment buildings and almost no shops.

I end up paying 900 K and I'm led upstairs. They offer some sort of membership for a cost, but as I was not going to come back, I just declined. What follows is a series of different rooms and baths. First a steam room, where a girl in bikini joins you and plays with you for like 10 minutes. You're then brought to a dry heat room, always with the girl. She was bubbly, playful and kept smiling. After that I think we ended up in a hot pool. That's where a bit more action took place, she started giving me a HJ and I played with her pussy. Then she leaves and you continue your journey alone in various other steam / hot / dry tubs / rooms. It ends with a decent massage with the girl coming back. She then finishes you off with a BJ. It was nice, especially after all that playing we had before, but it was too mechanical to my taste. After that, took a shower, got dressed and left. Forgot to mention. There were what looked like teenager boys, that worked there. They were very kind and helpful and basically are the ones leading to each room, but was a bit awkward. It was middle afternoon, and I was the only customer there. I believe that during peak time you would be sharing all the facilities (except the final massage room), with a bunch of other people.

Next day I meet this other girl Tinder girl. We go out for drinks, dinner. We want to hit some club but as we walk there, we start making out in a small alley. She was moaning like crazy and I'm like, this sounds promising! We make out for a good 30 minutes and it reaches a point where I'm actually liking and sucking on her nipples, in that same back alley. She didn't want to come back to my hotel at first, with the same kind of blabla the other Tinder girl gave me. I was like, here we go again. After more making out, I said, OK then I'm going home. We grab a taxi and I tell her that I'll drop her off. She then tells me, let's just go to your hotel. Sweet! Once back at the hotel, the same moaning continues and I'm like, man this is going to be wild! She starts telling me crazy stuff like "you like my boobs? You want to lick my boobs?" Hell yea and more! Turns out once serious things started, she turned into another dead-fish and that's when it got super boring. In any case, was still happy, she was a freebie (if you exclude the fact that I did pay for the diner and the drinks).

After that, headed to Sapa where I can say, there is basically no action. There's a lot of construction going on, I think mostly Chinese funded. I'm sure there will be more action happening in the future, as more tourists flock into the area, but as in my case, you don't really come to Sapa for that, so I didn't care.

In conclusion, I'd say the mongering scene in Danang and Hanoi is pretty dead. You really need to do some research. Also I "kind of" got lucky with some freebie action but oh boy, that is time consuming. And the girls are definitely not easy to bring back home. It's easy matching and chatting, eventually meeting, but more than that (if you're only on a short trip), it will be difficult. As I like the whole seduction game thing, I don't mind, but it's not for everyone.

Went to Manila after that (a lot more action), will report on it in the Manila forum soon.

[Asian Lover Oz]

My experience in Hanoi on wechat in particular is completely different to Saigon.

1) There were actually minimal girls openly advertising on wechat.

2) The very very few obvious ones on Zalo seem to get shutdown within 24 hrs.

I never received any "cold calls" from Wechat. Unlike Saigon where I was bombarded with dozens of contact requests every day.

Despite that, I did have some success.

There was one average looking lady that was advertising massage on wechat and she responded positively with photos of 4 ladies that could come to the hotel for massage. I mentioned I was in 5 star hotel and she said it would be no problem.

Of the 4 photos, only 1 was sort of interesting so I gave it a shot. Massage price was 800 K for 90 mins. It was during the day and I had no idea what would happen with the hotel, being a luxury hotel in the French Qtr.

Sure enough 10 minutes later the phone rings and says Mr ALO, Ms Thuy is here to see you, shall I send her to you room? Absolutely Mr Reception that would be most helpful. Up to room come a late 20's, possibly early 30 reasonably looking lady that did match the picture (although the picture was probably a few years old). I didn't beat around the Bush and immediately disrobed by myself and asked her to join me in the bed, to which she eagerly agreed. A lovely 90 minutes went by with some cuddling, kissing, BBBJ and then onto an amazing BBxx which I couldn't help, it's very rare that I would go there, but she was so tight and hungry for some Aussie loving we just went for it with me finishing all over her stomach. She ended with some actual massage and she was very happy with another $800 K tip. A fantastic surprise session compared to the previous couple of days in the old quarter.

The next day I messaged the same owner and said I would pay more if she can find a lady under 21 yo, but she replied saying she only has the 4 girls working in her massage shop and she's not a pimp (or words to that effect). She talked me into trying another who looked reasonable in the photo, but actually when she turned up she looked even better. Unfortunately, she was a single mum so when the clothes came off I lost a bit of interest in taking it all the way as I'm a fussy bugger and like my ladies unblemished. Never mind, I had my Japanese school girl uniform with me and she put it on, which suited here to a T (help cover up the baby signs). She was super keen for FS as well, but I was content for some extended BBBJ with photos as well. Gobbled up and swallowed the lot with heaps of video and photos. Also, she made sure she stayed for the entire 90 minutes by doing massage as well. Tipped the same $800 K.

I messaged many ladies on we chat, and this lady owner was basically the only one that responded, which turned out ok, but I did waste a hell of a lot of time in the process. At least it wasn't a bait a switch like 99% of Saigon Wechats.

[Asian Lover Oz]

I had a one month gold subscription last month without any "safety form".

But I did notice a behavior in that there are lots of messages sent to you when you don't have a paid account. Then after you sign up, the messages sort of dry up.

Can't say for sure if that's what they are doing but it would be make good business sense (albeit unethical) to send these random messages to encourage guys to switch to a paid account to unlock the message.

I never had any luck finding open minded girls from VC. I did meet some wonderful girlfriend types but with limited time wasn't able to seal the deal.

So I joined Vietnamese Cupid to gain access to some of the girls for my visit. Perhaps I did it incorrectly.

After immediately receiving a whole bunch of "email messages", I was alerted that I need to sign up for either gold or platinum program to view the message.

So I signed up for the 3 month platinum but when I went to view the incoming message I received another alert that I need to complete this long safety form!

Definitely no completing the form. This is BS.

Perhaps I did it incorrectly? Have you received this "safety message" to complete?

Appreciate some input. Thanks!

[Firebird]

So I joined Vietnamese Cupid to gain access to some of the girls for my visit. Perhaps I did it incorrectly.

After immediately receiving a whole bunch of "email messages", I was alerted that I need to sign up for either gold or platinum program to view the message.

So I signed up for the 3 month platinum but when I went to view the incoming message I received another alert that I need to complete this long safety form!

Definitely no completing the form. This is BS.

Perhaps I did it incorrectly? Have you received this "safety message" to complete?

Appreciate some input. Thanks!

[Firebird]

I have had NO trouble in Hanoi and Haiphong keeping a girl overnight, only trouble was in HCMC. I tend to stay in the smaller "boutique" hotels (20-30 rooms per hotel), there are many in the old quarter. They are cheaper, comfortable, usually good wifi, include breakfast and very friendly. Many will pick you up and drop you off at the airport for about $15 USD which takes the pressure off using some scammer offering you a ride. Also, I find the staff is more than willing to go with you to a nearby shop to get a local sim card or whatever you need. Its easy to get to know the staff, manager and even the owners and they are cool with it as long as the girl has her IC (or ID) with her. No problem, no questions, not even any looks hehehe. I have been going to these cities for 10 years now, not an issue as far as I am concerned. Be polite, smile, chat a bit and you will be able to do what you want to in terms of guests (and hopefully you will be able to do what you want to the overnight guest hehe). And don't be a Cheap Charlie, leave the staff a nice tip (there usually is a tip jar) and feel free to tip the maids too, 100,000 VND each for the maids and 500,000 for the hotel tip jar. that is less than $50 USD total.

The only non-local that stayed with me was a friend from singapore who wanted to visit hanoi with someone she knew..that was me. No problem at all. And if you are going to ask how I find girls..i use tagged, vietnamesecupid, wechat and zalo (you can use google translate to chat and keep your sentences short and to the point). Sorry, no contacts to share, I'm greedy and keep them to myself hehe. Many of these girls are hungry for affection and oral sex (seems that the Vn guys aren't into eating pussy from what the girls tell me)...you do that and you will be a hero. Some of the ones I have met have been 'regular girls" that know little about sex other than missionary and the guy finishes and its over...so they appreciate a westerner giving them something they rarely got (as in they get to cum).

GG.

WOW Geneva Guy! Super information! Now I am feeling bit more positive that my nine nights in Hanoi will be with "talent" to keep the fun going. Hopefully overnight. One of the things I absolutely maintain with my travels is to EVERY Morning leave a large tip (what they consider large) on the bed for the hotel help. The amount of "extras" I find when I return is unbelievable. Yeah you are right. You give "extra" and you get lot more back.

Can you off hand recommend some hotels in the Old Quarter? I read in the forum that wechat is good approach as it provides translation. So I will try that and hopefully will be lucky.

What ever it takes to make the girls happy. I am willing to do. From toes to nose and in-between. Haha!!

Once again many thanks for the info. Have fun and stay safe!!

[Geneva Guy]

Hey Asian Lover OZ, when I travel, especially in the Philippines, I usually bring the girl to my hotel and keep her overnight. Lot more relaxing.

From what I have read, this is not possible in Vietnam? Especially in Hanoi I guess. Or is it?

And the next question, I would assume that most hotels in Hanoi are not girl friendly. Correct?

Look forward to your further reports.

I have had NO trouble in Hanoi and Haiphong keeping a girl overnight, only trouble was in HCMC. I tend to stay in the smaller "boutique" hotels (20-30 rooms per hotel), there are many in the old quarter. They are cheaper, comfortable, usually good wifi, include breakfast and very friendly. Many will pick you up and drop you off at the airport for about $15 USD which takes the pressure off using some scammer offering you a ride. Also, I find the staff is more than willing to go with you to a nearby shop to get a local sim card or whatever you need. Its easy to get to know the staff, manager and even the owners and they are cool with it as long as the girl has her IC (or ID) with her. No problem, no questions, not even any looks hehehe. I have been going to these cities for 10 years now, not an issue as far as I am concerned. Be polite, smile, chat a bit and you will be able to do what you want to in terms of guests (and hopefully you will be able to do what you want to the overnight guest hehe). And don't be a Cheap Charlie, leave the staff a nice tip (there usually is a tip jar) and feel free to tip the maids too, 100,000 VND each for the maids and 500,000 for the hotel tip jar. that is less than $50 USD total.

The only non-local that stayed with me was a friend from singapore who wanted to visit hanoi with someone she knew..that was me. No problem at all. And if you are going to ask how I find girls..i use tagged, vietnamesecupid, wechat and zalo (you can use google translate to chat and keep your sentences short and to the point). Sorry, no contacts to share, I'm greedy and keep them to myself hehe. Many of these girls are hungry for affection and oral sex (seems that the Vn guys aren't into eating pussy from what the girls tell me)...you do that and you will be a hero. Some of the ones I have met have been 'regular girls" that know little about sex other than missionary and the guy finishes and its over...so they appreciate a westerner giving them something they rarely got (as in they get to cum).

GG.

[Firebird]

Yes you are right they are damn gorgeous, but if you have mongered in those countries, then don't have too high expectation on the Vietnam mongering scene, especially 9 days in Hanoi will be tough. Hopefully your ticket home goes via one of those other countries. Or at least you have time to pop down to Saigon.

Hey Asian Lover OZ, when I travel, especially in the Philippines, I usually bring the girl to my hotel and keep her overnight. Lot more relaxing.

From what I have read, this is not possible in Vietnam? Especially in Hanoi I guess. Or is it?

And the next question, I would assume that most hotels in Hanoi are not girl friendly. Correct?

Look forward to your further reports.

[Firebird]

Yes you are right they are damn gorgeous, but if you have mongered in those countries, then don't have too high expectation on the Vietnam mongering scene, especially 9 days in Hanoi will be tough. Hopefully your ticket home goes via one of those other countries. Or at least you have time to pop down to Saigon.

Hey Asian Lover OZ, many thanks for your FR concerning the massage places in the Old Quarter. I will try the first place you mentioned. Yes I too heard that HCM City is much better place to find "talent" than in Hanoi. Unfortunately this trip does not include HCM.

So in Hanoi I will do the best with what is being offered. If I find something worthwhile, I will report. Thanks for providing the address.

After Hanoi, I will be in the Philippines for close to two weeks. There talent is plentiful to stay overnight for little money. Definitely will be the better part of the trip.