Hanoi

[GoodEnough]

Originally posted by Erik
Is anyone familliar with the Foreigners bars like Monaco, Polite Pub or Body guard (? not sure about the name) ? Can you find girls there, appart from foreign males drinking beer ? Relax bar seems to be less visited by working girls these days.
Thanks.

Erik: Everyone i've seen at Monaco has been recycled from Apocalypse and typically appears after that closes at about midnight. I hadn't read your comment on Fortuna before my last post, but thanks for the warning, I assume all of the so called "hostess" bars are like that. There's a new one, across from the Hilton which I hear has stunning women but I've not been there yet and it's rumored to be pretty expensive. I did have some luck last Friday night at the Press Club. I didn't expect to get lucky there but it was a nice evening.

[GoodEnough]

I've had several chicks stay for nothing more than cab fare, others who ask for $100 and are happy to get $30, and never paid more than $40. On the other hand, I never negotiate beforehand, and I think they're pretty much happy with whatever they can get.
Went to the Fortuna hotel north of the lake a couple of nights ago. It has a "hostess" bar and there are probably about 75-100 girls, some of them really good looking. They will sit with you for about $5 per hour and drink fruit juice at $4 a pop. On the other hand, you can either go there at midnight when they get off, and deal directly or walk in, find one you like, give her your phone number and tell her to call you. It works and the price is highly negotiable. There are three or four other hotels, including the Daewoo, which have hostess bars, some of them with more women, but I haven't been there.
From everything I've seen the best place remains New Century. There are lots of women, it's open until late and no one hassles you about anything.

[Erik]

If you want them on that evening, they will start at 50 USD for ST, but you can have them for 40 or 30. If you take their phone number and call them the next afternoon, you will have them in your minihotel room for 25 or even 20 !

[Chikan]

goodenough,
Good stuff...how much do these chicks want in Monaco or New Century g-e-n-e-r-a-l-l-y speaking? I gather some are just there with friends having fun or??? Expensive?
Happy trails!

[GoodEnough]

Still in Hanoi and have discovered a couple of new places. One is called Monaco, which is known to every taxi driver. It's the only place in Hanoi that stays open all night and it's where all the girls come after Apocalypse Now and the other places close. It's small and after midnight, it's extremely crowded, but you can find a lot of expatriate men (and some expat women) and loads of Vietnamese working girls.
The other late hours place is New Century, which is open until about 3 AM. It draws a mixed crod of expats, hookers, and rich young Vietnamese kids. It's large, loud, and it's jammed every night.

[GoodEnough]

Now in Hanoi for the first time, and there's plenty available here. Apocalypse Now is back open in its old location, but only stays open until midnight because of some new local ordinance. Girls usually come in between 10 and10:30. Price is highly negotiable, and sometimes there's no exchange of money at all except for cab fare.

I have not checked out the fortuna, but from what I've seen, there's no need to get into expensive territory here, and a decent dinner, some wine or beer, and a little conversation works well.

[Jimbehr2000]

Erik, sorry to hear about your bad experience at Fortuna. It is definitely overpriced for Vietnam and you do need to pay attention when making your choice. My experience was the complete opposite of yours. I met a beautiful lady that looked terrific back in the room and she never mentioned money. For me it was worth the extra money I paid and I would return to the club if I had the opportunity. I even enjoyed the show the girls put on the stage at the club. As the saying goes ymmv (your're mileage may vary).

[Erik]

FORTUNA NIGHTCLUB : RIPP OFF **** DO NOT GO ****

Many girls in the VIP Club of Fortuna Hotel, but not easy to make your choice in the dark. At first, they all look gorgeous, but if you stay long time enough to look carefully at them, you will see that they are actually very average girls, well dressed, on high heels, with super wonderbra to enhanced their average breast. Once naked in your room, it is another story. They charge you 102 USD for ST, and let me tell you that the service I had was crap. The so called 22 years old girl (actually more 32, with one child at least) promitted to "eat me everywhere'. Actually, she hardly performed a BJ, the kind of BJ shey put their hands to hide that they fake sucking, insisting to have the condom ready on the bed... bad ambiance... She then spoke about money every 2 minutes, insisting to be paid upfront, which is against my principle, and I am glad I sticked to it. I had enough and sent her out. As you can imagine, that was not without screaming and big noise in the hotel, and intervention of the reception. Total damage for me : 52 USD.

So much for the posts which advertise "upmarket" places to get a good service. I return to my little barbershops. There, you can find real treasures, and if you have bad luck, you have just lost 5 or 10 USD.

[Erik]

Is anyone familliar with the Foreigners bars like Monaco, Polite Pub or Body guard (? not sure about the name) ? Can you find girls there, appart from foreign males drinking beer ? Relax bar seems to be less visited by working girls these days.
Thanks.

[Jimbehr2000]

Thanks for the info. I am on my way to Danang/Hoi An now. AN has reopened but I never made it there. Fortuna Hotel (Boss Club) is awesome but pricey. R+R is a nice place to get a drink, burger, or just hang out during the day.

[Asiaphile]

You might want to check out Polite Bar in the Old Quarter which is similar to AN. I hope it's not also closed. Lots of local expats hang out at R&R Tavern where you might find out what's happening in the capital or elsewhere in VN. Have fun and wish I was there!

[Jimbehr2000]

I am currently in Hanoi and would like to report the closure of Apocolypse Now. The police closed it last week which means it could reopen any day. Relax Bar has 6-10 available girls. Will be checking out New Century and possibly the Boss Club at Fortuna Hotel. Internet connections really suck here but I would appreciate any Hanoi info or Da Nang or Hoi An info for an upcoming trip. Thanks to all who posted before me.

[Rayiii99]

Just back from Hanoi. This is my first time going to there.
We live in hotel in fornt of the USA chancellery. There have a night club in base floor. It's ok. One night is $80. We have escort for 2 day $150. The feeling is good.
The traffic in Hanoi was too bad.

[Erik]

Just a little correction, prostitution is ALSO prohibited in Thailand !

[Taodan]

swedtraveller,
Easy, just tell your neighbor's vietnamese wife that you want to fuck a vietnamese chick. I am sure she will find one for you. Remember, unlike Thailand, prostitution in Vietnam is illegal.

Originally posted by swedtraveller
Hi!

I will, during my holiday in Thailand, make a 10 day visit to Vietnam. I have been invited by my neighbour and his vietnamese wife, who are there to visit her family. So I guess I will spend all my time with their family, relatives and people who they know. No bars and no bargirls.

So here comes the tricky part. I have never been to Vietnam and I do not know how people (girls) think there. If I find someone attractive, how do I get an ordinary, vietnamese girl to go to bed with me? Is it possible in 10 days? I guess it is either a "normal", average, girl or nothing. Any advise?

Swedtraveller