Hanoi

[Golds]

I am not talking about massage places, I mean just in general, talking to girls on the streets, tourists are not seen here as guys with a golden dick. They are not really interested in you despite you are loaded with cash. There are other countries in the world with the same poverty but where you as a white guy be treated as a king. They really are not interested. And I don't make a comparison with Thailand because also there the golden years are over.

It depends on where you went. Where did you go and what kinds of people you meet? May be you were wearing a flight suit, looking like a be-52 pilot who dropped 1,000 dumb bombs.

On Hanoi during the war.

Hanoi is way too densely populated, difficult to scratch out a living for almost everyone. Life is very hard and people very competitive. Thousands after thousands high-rent store fronts sell the same goods or food with very few buyers. Tens thousands motor bikes, buses, vans, cars rush around on narrow colonial streets, every one trying to seize every inch of the road in front of them regardless of traffic signals or potential accidents. Working people are so stressed and sullied, they don't greet each other even among families, close friends ect.

Went to Neko, one of the top massages in Hanoi near US Embassy. Workers looked depressed, not doing much business. Took a hot girl into the room, got naked while she was filling the tub. When I found out she was not going to screw, I put my clothes back on and bailed. Was expecting a fist fight or at least a nasty confrontation with the 5 reception and security guys, but they were cool, did not get upset or demand payment.

Couple times I took long bus rides from Old Town to Cau Giay district to screw GAITO. ORG girls. People on the roads were neutral, not hostile but not friendly or helpful. Buses are cool since they move as fast as any cars or bikes on narrow, congested streets with drivers blowing their loud horns at encroaching traffic every 2 minutes. I took long bike rides and Grab cars to various red light districts. Drivers were cordial, some even chatty, offering to steer me to good spots where locals go.

Northern girls had more flexible and less aggressive attitudes when dealing with conflicts. Like when I turned them down for not looking like posted pics, they would back down and negotiate for lower rates. One was wailing in disappointment after I turned her down. Southern girls would likely swear obcenities and and try to attack me.

Over all I would rate Hanoi people generally gentle, fun, warm. Saigon is far worse, where people are ruder, more ruthless and offensive, shouting loud obscenities among themselves and with tourists, fighting on the streets. Every time I go out, walking or riding, I actually have to be prepared to fight aggressive, rude, nasty people.

Lacking infrastructure and unique cultural offerings, Vietnam is not a good tourist spot, besides lots of hot girls cheap. Vietnam should manage its prostitution better to bring in tourists and employment to hot girls, raising GDP.

[Captain Solo]

It depends on where you went. Where did you go and what kinds of people you meet? May be you were wearing a flight suit, looking like a be-52 pilot who dropped 1,000 dumb bombs.

On Hanoi during the war.

Hanoi is way too densely populated, difficult to scratch out a living for almost everyone. Life is very hard and people very competitive. Thousands after thousands high-rent store fronts sell the same goods or food with very few buyers. Tens thousands motor bikes, buses, vans, cars rush around on narrow colonial streets, every one trying to seize every inch of the road in front of them regardless of traffic signals or potential accidents. Working people are so stressed and sullied, they don't greet each other even among families, close friends ect.

Went to Neko, one of the top massages in Hanoi near US Embassy. Workers looked depressed, not doing much business. Took a hot girl into the room, got naked while she was filling the tub. When I found out she was not going to screw, I put my clothes back on and bailed. Was expecting a fist fight or at least a nasty confrontation with the 5 reception and security guys, but they were cool, did not get upset or demand payment.

Couple times I took long bus rides from Old Town to Cau Giay district to screw GAITO. ORG girls. People on the roads were neutral, not hostile but not friendly or helpful. Buses are cool since they move as fast as any cars or bikes on narrow, congested streets with drivers blowing their loud horns at encroaching traffic every 2 minutes. I took long bike rides and Grab cars to various red light districts. Drivers were cordial, some even chatty, offering to steer me to good spots where locals go.

Northern girls had more flexible and less aggressive attitudes when dealing with conflicts. Like when I turned them down for not looking like posted pics, they would back down and negotiate for lower rates. One was wailing in disappointment after I turned her down. Southern girls would likely swear obcenities and and try to attack me.

Over all I would rate Hanoi people generally gentle, fun, warm. Saigon is far worse, where people are ruder, more ruthless and offensive, shouting loud obscenities among themselves and with tourists, fighting on the streets. Every time I go out, walking or riding, I actually have to be prepared to fight aggressive, rude, nasty people.

Lacking infrastructure and unique cultural offerings, Vietnam is not a good tourist spot, besides lots of hot girls cheap. Vietnam should manage its prostitution better to bring in tourists and employment to hot girls, raising GDP.

I got the impression people don't like tourists that much, they hardly greet when you do first.

They turn away, are not friendly.

[Compuphonic]

It all depends the quality. I know places in Hanoi you can get sex for 200 k ($8. 20) the girls are gross but it is what it is. There are many blow and go places for $8-12 all over the city. I am an expert here in Hanoi. I speak Vietnamese and I have taken my Viet friends to very out of the way places, they had no idea existed.

Would be good if you could list your favorite places to hook up with pay girls.

[Golds]

I got the impression people don't like tourists that much, they hardly greet when you do first.

They turn away, are not friendly.

[FictionalSpace]

It all depends the quality. I know places in Hanoi you can get sex for 200 k ($8. 20) the girls are gross but it is what it is. There are many blow and go places for $8-12 all over the city. I am an expert here in Hanoi. I speak Vietnamese and I have taken my Viet friends to very out of the way places, they had no idea existed.

Will be in Hanoi soon and would love some intel on blow and go places if you're willing to share. I've always found the landscape in Hanoi much more challenging than HCMC, but I've never been a long term resident so don't have the time to explore widely.

[HanoiMongers]

If you wanted a happy ending a $5 or maybe a $10 tip in US cash dollars was all you needed. Anyone know what it is today?

It all depends the quality. I know places in Hanoi you can get sex for 200 k ($8. 20) the girls are gross but it is what it is. There are many blow and go places for $8-12 all over the city. I am an expert here in Hanoi. I speak Vietnamese and I have taken my Viet friends to very out of the way places, they had no idea existed.

[TConor]

If you wanted a happy ending a $5 or maybe a $10 tip in US cash dollars was all you needed. Anyone know what it is today?

[QCryptic]

I disagree with this statement. Hanoi is way better than HCMC, you just have to know where to go. Hanoi is a gem.

Want to share any info because it seems pretty limited here.

[HanoiMongers]

HCMC is definitely better for sex with 10 x more girls than Hanoi listed on line.

Lots of Hanoi girls move South to HCMC to work. About 2 out of 3 come from the North. I find it much easier to find and book hot girls without baits and switches like in Hanoi.

Besides a lot more on line girls in HCMC, hundreds girls work in bars and massages in Japan town. Traffic is also better in HCMC.

But everything in Vietnam is fucked up compared to Thailand, where everything is nice, clean, easy, relaxed, safe and cheap.

I disagree with this statement. Hanoi is way better than HCMC, you just have to know where to go. Hanoi is a gem.

[Cukuc]

Hello everybody! I was wondering if anybody has ever encountered a barbershop which offers massage and a he and other, extra services in Hanoi? Saw some videos on YouTube and was wondering if the concept is real. If yes, where are such shops found? Anything to report?

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I am planning a trip To Viet Nam next month, I have been to Thailand, Brazil, Mexico, and 3 other South American countries. This is my first time going to Vietnam. I am asking for your advice. Which is the better place for my first time? Your help is appreciated.

Please see the report I just posted in the HCMC thread. Was a ton of fun, but sorry I can't compare that city to Hanoi as I've not visited the north yet.

[Captain Solo]

HCMC is definitely better for sex with 10 x more girls than Hanoi listed on line.

Lots of Hanoi girls move South to HCMC to work. About 2 out of 3 come from the North. I find it much easier to find and book hot girls without baits and switches like in Hanoi.

Besides a lot more on line girls in HCMC, hundreds girls work in bars and massages in Japan town. Traffic is also better in HCMC.

But everything in Vietnam is fucked up compared to Thailand, where everything is nice, clean, easy, relaxed, safe and cheap.

[HotelAl]

I am planning a trip To Viet Nam next month, I have been to Thailand, Brazil, Mexico, and 3 other South American countries. This is my first time going to Vietnam. I am asking for your advice. Which is the better place for my first time? Your help is appreciated.

[Captain Solo]

The girls have to deal with lots of guys just window shop, kick tires, not buy, so they are pretty busy and prefer to be brief and quick.

You can use foreign tel. Girls will figure out the foreigners anyway. Use Translate and ask quick questions in their language:

Are you XXX? Them la XXX?

Where is the hotel? Hotel o dau?

ZZ: ZZ OK? ZZ: ZZ gio OK?

They would quickly give you name, address of the hotel and the time they can meet you.

Get to the hotel. Text them the hotel name and room number and wait in the room. They usually show up in 5 to 10 minutes.

Insist on seeing the girl in the picture since some hot girls are busy and may let their fat, ugly friends take the date.

[QCryptic]

I never had baits and switches in HCMC.

With stupid shenanigans in Hanoi, I will ask girls for video calls before heading out.

Thank you for the reports. Can you give more info about booking? Do you call them just with a regular phone call? Language ability? Also do they tell you where to go or you find your own room and give them the info?

Curious if I would be able to even book anyone with English and a foreign number.