Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Sex God]

What are people on this thread referring to when they say "DJ cafes"?

Thanks in advance for answering.

[Sex God]

Sigh. Some of these greedy viet "must wear condom" prostitutes that are probably using fake photos have been trying to ask 1. 5 mil per hour for sex with a condom recently. As if saigon wasn't crappy enough already.

Don't pay 1. 5 million vnd for an hour of sex with ANY woman in Vietnam! 1 million vnd per hour for having sex with a condom was already way too overpriced here. So is this hotel room.

Thanks in advance for not being submissive victims of viet scams.

[RajuraStogi01]

Hi,

I will be spending about week in saigon, but I am not sure of gai gon scene. Do they have their own hotels or we can take them to our hotel room.

Also can anyone point out to sure shot ways in saigon, that would be very helpful.

[Banana Boi]

Bui Vien predominantly Farang and Viet. Typical herds of young Japanese guys like Thailand.
Little Japan predominantly Japanese with a spattering of Farang.
Pasteur Street mostly Farang with some Chinese, Viet, and Japanese. Most Farang I talked to were from Europe.
NPK everyone.
DJ cafes almost exclusively Vietnamese.

Honestly have only seen about 5 viet girls I would put in the effort to date in saigon so far. And most of them were dancing on a platform on bui vien.

You've gone to Little Japan, Pasteur Street, and DJ cafes and have only seen 5 girls you like? I thought I was picky.

[Sex God]

Only one of the women I found on the Line app in saigon have agreed to do a video call to confirm their photos are honest. Her photo wasn't honest, but she still did the video call.

Any here can confirm that most of the women found on the Line app in saigon mostly look like their Line profile photos and photos they send before meeting? (or are those generally totally fake?

Thanks in advance for confirming.

P.S. : By the way, any that are comfortable with posting what country they are from, post it on the thread as I am curious what the general demographics are of the participants in the saigon thread.

[Sex God]

Honestly have only seen about 5 viet girls I would put in the effort to date in saigon so far. And most of them were dancing on a platform on bui vien.

Despite warnings that Vietnam sucks, I went during December 2022. Here's my review:

Hotel: District 1 (D1) is close to everything. I stayed at the Saigon AE&M hotel & spa in District 1 for a week (1. 5 M dong / night in Dec 2022). All A&them hotels allow guests (Verified! But beware of the A&them Petite hotel because it's a disgusting, bed bug filled, rat hole. Hotel photos are photoshopped (like the girls). I heard the Intercontinental, Renassaince, or LE Meridien hotels are guest friendly too.

Dating: I'm a young-looking, athletic guy, full hair, 5'10", low body fat, and I approached several of the beautiful white skinned thin girls at Bui Ven, Ho Thi Ky street food (cool place), Vincom Mall, Saigon Mall, War Rememberance Museum, etc, but not one of them will give me the time of day. Most girls speak perfect english, but pretend not to. Sitting in cafe for hours is the most popular activity, but don't expect any mingling; when I quietly approached a group of girls at a table, they just stared at me with the most deadpan faces. Most girls I approached just gave me a 1 word answer and walked away. I tried Tinder, Vietnam Cupid, Date in Asia, Tantan, FB dating, Seeking Arrangements and couldn't get a date. My only matches were bar girls beconing me to come to Japan town to buy drinks.

Girls: Vietnamese girls are probably the prettiest in SEA. Very thin, white skin, few tattoos, short skirts and heels. This makes things here even more frustrating.

Bui Vien street: is just a bunch of loud cafes with shirtless men dancing on platforms! Tried 7 places that google maps said had live music but couldn't find any. I walked all the alleyways of Bui Vien (including 241/9 Pham Ngu Lao) for multiple days and couldn't find 1 freelancer. Only 1 very ugly lady boy hit on me.

NPK Street: I visited a hot toc for a very lackluster 500 k BJ. The girl spit every 10 seconds, acting like she hated it so much. Poor experience. However, This might be the best value for Saigon. I suggest shopping ALL the hot tocs first, then coming back for your choice.

Japan town: Filled with 100's of very hot, young, white skinned, thin girls. However, I wasn't able to get one girl into the sack, talking to several of them on street. They just want to steal your money with drinks at their bar. I went into a bar for a single drink and they tried to charge for me drinks for every girl in the bar! The total would have been 1. 5 M, but I said I only had 500 k on me, which they took anyway. I was lucky to get out of there only paying that amount.

Gaito / ThienDia / Line People nearby: I messaged about 12 different ladies and ordered the one with the lowest reported weight: 43 kg for 1. 3 M. I met her in the lobby and she showed up at 60-70 kg and looking nothing like her photo. I'm still kicking myself for not sending her away immediately. She wanted the money first, which is a red flag. She took her clothes off to reveal many rolls of fat. Then she started complaining after 30 seconds of CBJ. When we moved onto the main course, she kept saying: Don't kiss me! Don't kiss me! The whole time. It was such a turn off. After a few minutes, I lost all ability and kicked her out of my room. Terrible experience at a high price.

Rules: If you do meet an online girl (mistake! Don't give her your room number. Meet her in the lobby and ask to see her face. If she doesn't match the photos 100%, then send her away. Most likely she will be 10-30 kg heavier and 10 years older than the photos, so be prepared to eject. If she wasn't fat and old, then she would be working in Japan town where the young girls are. If you do take her, make sure she gives her ID at the front desk, this might intimidate her into giving better service.

Conclusion: I really believe I covered all the bases, maybe you will have better luck than me. After travelling South East Asia for 10 years, this is the worst experience I had. All I saw was extremely snooty (but beautiful) women, poor nightlife and very limited, unsatisfactory mongering activities! I think Pattaya, Angeles City, Phuket, Phnom Penh, Manila, Cebu, Sabang, Subic, and Jakarta are all far better options! Until Japan town girls start offering short time for 1. 5 M, I won't be back. If you do decide to come, book the first few nights only, that way you can escape early from the utlimate challenge country with only a severely bruised ego. Afterthought: I did hear that a lot of the best freelancers moved on to Singapore or other countries due to the Pandemic.

[Sex God]

Only one of the women I found on the Line app in saigon have agreed to do a video call to confirm their photos are honest. Her photo wasn't honest, but she still did the video call.

Any here can confirm that most of the women found on the Line app in saigon mostly look like their Line profile photos and photos they send before meeting? (or are those generally totally fake?

Thanks in advance for confirming.

P.S.: By the way, any that are comfortable with posting what country they are from, post it on the thread as I am curious what the general demographics are of the participants in the saigon thread.

[Meo Den]

Despite warnings that Vietnam sucks, I went during December 2022. Here's my review:

Thanks for the report and I think most would broadly agree with your findings.

Your NPK experience sounds a bit below average. You may just have been unlucky, but quality / attitude has certainly suffered a lot in line with recent price increases.

There were a lot of warning signs in your incall encounter which you rightly enumerate and kudos for being prepared to admit them for the benefit of others. In general punters appear to get better results in the 500-700 k range than in the 1 M+. As you say the women are always a few years older than their stated ages, unless they are genuinely 18. Bait and switch is not uncommon.

I think one of the main differences in the scene between Vietnam and the other countries you list is that in Vietnam a very firm hand is required. Accepting the wrong goods or poor service and still paying is just seen as weakness and only leads to a downward spiral. The problem is that always being vigilant and adversarial takes a lot of energy and it is at the root of why Vietnam attracts fewer returning tourists generally.

It can be a real pain having to pull your pants back on and telling them that you want to change girls at NPK. Similarly having to repeatedly reject gaito girls, and catfish at your hotel.

It kind of takes the fun out of it.

As to the non-commercial side, it's a fact that hot Vietnamese girls are very rarely seen with Caucasian men. With Japanese and Koreans yes, but we tend not to notice. You don't mention your age but I've been reminded more than once by young women in Vietnam that forty is 'Grandfather age'. If they are around 20 it's quite possible they have a sibling with a child, which makes their 40 yo fathers Grandpas.

There are exceptions and I know one hot girl who married a lawyer from the US, but they were both mid-20's and met while working in Japan.

So agreed, Vietnam is a tough arena to operate in. Online Thai girls are vastly easier to deal with. But relationship-wise, it's becoming less and less common to see a hot Thai in her twenties with a Farang twice her age. When you do now, more often than not they are barfines.

[Banana Boi]

Conclusion: I really believe I covered all the bases,

I was there in Dec,2022 as well.

You missed the best part of HCM. Pasteur Street! Don't even waste a second on Bui Vien that's for tourists. Go to Bui Vien, admire the noise for an hour and get the fuck out of Bui Vien and head elsewhere. Girls are ugly and overpriced. Pasteur Street is 100 x more fun and cheaper! Maybe 100 bars scattered in the area. Girls on par with Little Japan. Yes you can get a Little Japan girl to go with you but it's going to cost you an arm and a leg buying her drinks all week so be happy they are telling you no. If you want sex for cheaper go to Cherry Linh or one of the other massage places in the walls of Little Japan.

Take NPK for what it is. A cheap way for guys to blow their load with not so good looking Viet girls. It's like a Beach Road FL in Pattaya but cheaper. Did you try the DJ cafes?

[Trvllvr58]

Only had 3 nights in HCMC but it was a good experience. Unlike JustAwny below, I did see freelancers on Bui Vien street. Maybe it's the day or time of night? It was Friday night at midnight for me.

Was very keen to try NPK (Nguyen Phi Khanh) street as I love a good BJ. Tried 68 NPK after looking at a few others. Reasonably cute girl. 400 k dong. Disappointing experience. Place was kinda a shithole. Creaky wooden steps up to a creaky wooden 2nd floor. Girl tried to make it more of a HJ than a BJ and was complaining after several minutes. Decided to terminate the "BJ" without finish. Didn't want my NPK experience to end with my own hand or a forced nut. Didn't complain and even gave her a 100 k tip. Hey, it's $5 to me and makes a difference to her.

Next I went down to 112 NPK. Determined to get a REAL BJ. And. Hello! The girls had uniforms. Tile / marble staircase to a nice 2nd floor. Yep. Different experience from the get go. Picked two girls for 400 each. They tried quoting 500 for New Years rate. The two I chose were definitely cuties. 7-8 face and 8-9 bodies. Knew I was in for a treat when they laid me back and had me raise my hands to a wash basin at the end of the table. Washed my right hand making it very clear I was welcome to probe! And probe I did. Had them take turns between sucking balls / shaft together, sucking while licking nipples, trading places and decided on which was best BJ for me. Once I decided, it was probably 5 minutes to lift off! Wasn't the GFE I experienced in Manila but a kiss on the cheek and feeling their tits, ass, pussy was good enough. It was a delightful way to spend a few hours.

So that's my quick report on HCMC. I like the feel of the city itself. Enjoy walking around the hotel (Sheraton).

Enjoy and safe travels!

[Anaggie]

Despite warnings that Vietnam sucks, I went during December 2022. Here's my review:

Hotel: District 1 (D1) is close to everything. I stayed at the Saigon AE&M hotel & spa in District 1 for a week (1. 5 M dong / night in Dec 2022). All A&them hotels allow guests (Verified! But beware of the A&them Petite hotel because it's a disgusting, bed bug filled, rat hole. Hotel photos are photoshopped (like the girls). I heard the Intercontinental, Renassaince, or LE Meridien hotels are guest friendly too.

Did you not try Linh Cherry? After reading this forum, I was planning on just getting it done at Linh Cherry.

[JustAwny]

Despite warnings that Vietnam sucks, I went during December 2022. Here's my review:

Hotel: District 1 (D1) is close to everything. I stayed at the Saigon AE&M hotel & spa in District 1 for a week (1. 5 M dong / night in Dec 2022). All A&them hotels allow guests (Verified! But beware of the A&them Petite hotel because it's a disgusting, bed bug filled, rat hole. Hotel photos are photoshopped (like the girls). I heard the Intercontinental, Renassaince, or LE Meridien hotels are guest friendly too.

Dating: I'm a young-looking, athletic guy, full hair, 5'10", low body fat, and I approached several of the beautiful white skinned thin girls at Bui Ven, Ho Thi Ky street food (cool place), Vincom Mall, Saigon Mall, War Rememberance Museum, etc, but not one of them will give me the time of day. Most girls speak perfect english, but pretend not to. Sitting in cafe for hours is the most popular activity, but don't expect any mingling; when I quietly approached a group of girls at a table, they just stared at me with the most deadpan faces. Most girls I approached just gave me a 1 word answer and walked away. I tried Tinder, Vietnam Cupid, Date in Asia, Tantan, FB dating, Seeking Arrangements and couldn't get a date. My only matches were bar girls beconing me to come to Japan town to buy drinks.

Girls: Vietnamese girls are probably the prettiest in SEA. Very thin, white skin, few tattoos, short skirts and heels. This makes things here even more frustrating.

Bui Vien street: is just a bunch of loud cafes with shirtless men dancing on platforms! Tried 7 places that google maps said had live music but couldn't find any. I walked all the alleyways of Bui Vien (including 241/9 Pham Ngu Lao) for multiple days and couldn't find 1 freelancer. Only 1 very ugly lady boy hit on me.

NPK Street: I visited a hot toc for a very lackluster 500 k BJ. The girl spit every 10 seconds, acting like she hated it so much. Poor experience. However, This might be the best value for Saigon. I suggest shopping ALL the hot tocs first, then coming back for your choice.

Japan town: Filled with 100's of very hot, young, white skinned, thin girls. However, I wasn't able to get one girl into the sack, talking to several of them on street. They just want to steal your money with drinks at their bar. I went into a bar for a single drink and they tried to charge for me drinks for every girl in the bar! The total would have been 1. 5 M, but I said I only had 500 k on me, which they took anyway. I was lucky to get out of there only paying that amount.

Gaito / ThienDia / Line People nearby: I messaged about 12 different ladies and ordered the one with the lowest reported weight: 43 kg for 1. 3 M. I met her in the lobby and she showed up at 60-70 kg and looking nothing like her photo. I'm still kicking myself for not sending her away immediately. She wanted the money first, which is a red flag. She took her clothes off to reveal many rolls of fat. Then she started complaining after 30 seconds of CBJ. When we moved onto the main course, she kept saying: Don't kiss me! Don't kiss me! The whole time. It was such a turn off. After a few minutes, I lost all ability and kicked her out of my room. Terrible experience at a high price.

Rules: If you do meet an online girl (mistake! Don't give her your room number. Meet her in the lobby and ask to see her face. If she doesn't match the photos 100%, then send her away. Most likely she will be 10-30 kg heavier and 10 years older than the photos, so be prepared to eject. If she wasn't fat and old, then she would be working in Japan town where the young girls are. If you do take her, make sure she gives her ID at the front desk, this might intimidate her into giving better service.

Conclusion: I really believe I covered all the bases, maybe you will have better luck than me. After travelling South East Asia for 10 years, this is the worst experience I had. All I saw was extremely snooty (but beautiful) women, poor nightlife and very limited, unsatisfactory mongering activities! I think Pattaya, Angeles City, Phuket, Phnom Penh, Manila, Cebu, Sabang, Subic, and Jakarta are all far better options! Until Japan town girls start offering short time for 1. 5 M, I won't be back. If you do decide to come, book the first few nights only, that way you can escape early from the utlimate challenge country with only a severely bruised ego. Afterthought: I did hear that a lot of the best freelancers moved on to Singapore or other countries due to the Pandemic.

[M3100]

Pasting my experience in Vietnam here from SMF:

I took a month long trip to Vietnam. I'm a digital nomad, so came here on a tourist visa on 14th October. And went back on 12th November. I was working all the time except 21st - 30th October during which I had taken holidays.

Had been reading across the forums and got a lot of help from here. I thank you guys for that. So here's my contribution:

Objective: I came to Vietnam to chill and fuck.

Below are the details about me:

Ethnicity: Indian.

Age: 27.

Height: 5'5.

Weight: 65 KG.

I'm athletic and have 4 pack abs. I'm adding these because according to me this matters if you want to date women.

Basic info:

Racism: None. I've worked in Seattle and Austin. So am no stranger to Racism. And have very little fucks to give for that. Vietnamese people are lovely, friendly and have no pre conceived notion regarding Indians. I loved that. I'm respectful towards everybody so I appreciated when that was reciprocated back.

General Vibe: It's been awesome. From hostels, to airbnb to hotels I've experienced all and loved all. From smoking up with dutch dudes in Mui Ve to drinking with Kazak's till morning, to partying Bui Vien till afternoon from previous night, to getting in an accident on grab bike while coming back from a love motel after meeting a gaito woman, I had the time of my life especially with all the banging.

Saigon (14th - 23rd):

Saigon is an amazing city for finding women. It's no match for Thailand's core places but it has it's own charm.

Place I lived: I took an Airbnb right in the street of little Japan. Great decision. Host basically left me to myself and I could do whatever I wanted.

Massage republic:

Called up one women from Massage Republic to my bnb. She was chubby. And not a looker. She was a normal north Vietnamese woman. Told me she is studying interior designing in a university. Is 23 years old. And does this as side hussle.

Once I got her turned on with foreplay and DATY she basically went from a shy girl to one who just wanted to fuck. It was amazing. We had agreed for 2 hours, 2 shots. But she came at 5 pm and we had passionate sessions till 11. Had 3 shots. And went to dinner after. She said she wanted to stay the night but couldn't as she lived with her mother's friend.

Damage: 1. 2 mln.

Called up another named Alissa. 4 m for two hours / 2 shots. She was more professional. She also was extremely passionate. Went intense for couple of hours. It was good experience. She was much more beautiful than previous one but I would still prefer the chubby one. Just cause of her attitude.

Gaito:

Had experience with 5 different Gaito women. General consensus on this forum is call women from 400 k to 800 k since their service is basically the same as the expensive ones. I don't agree with that in Saigon. In my experience the more expensive a women in Saigon, better her attitude, figure, face and fuck. But in general I loved Gaito. It was reliable, women were beautiful, some more even than hot Vietnamese women you see walking on the street, everybody gave kissing and BJ, were extremely hygienic and knew how to give a good time. I ended up calling only one women multiple times. It was cosplayer. She is expensive but worth every penny.

Highest Rate: 2. 5 mln for ST.

Lowest Rate: 600 k for ST.

Street Scooters:

If you are a foreigner walking around the streets of Saigon, random scooter drivers will ask you if you want boom boom. And I did try that out of curiosity. The scooter guy quoted 1. 5 mln with hotel room included. I negotiated it down to 1. 2 mln. Honestly, women wasn't that bad. Maybe like 600 k Gaito woman equivalent. Add about 150 k for a really nice hotel room and I did get ripped off but not really that badly. But stick to Gaito and skip these riders.

Massages:

I only tried Linh cherry. I tried it twice. And it was really nice both times. I read some post here that they did not receive an FS at Linh cherry. I'm not sure why that is. Since both times I was directly told at the reception itself that massage + FS is 2. 4 mln for an hour.

Tinder:

Total matches: above 100.

Total dates: 3.

Hookup: None.

Mui Ve (no action).

Nha Trang:

I met the best Gaito women here. I only tried Gaito in Nha Trang and since I was only there for a couple of days, only tried two women. Out of which second one was my best fuck of the whole trip till that time. She was normal (not extremely pretty but def an eye candy), had a see section scar but damn her moans, her attitude, her DFK and her passion drove me crazy. After the deed I asked her if she could stay for a couple of hours more. She agreed for the same price as she had agreed to come. (500 k + 500 k). I ended up spending 1 mln on the girl for 2-3 hours. It was cheap and goddamn amazing.

The nang:

I read a report from Logan that the nang was alive and kicking. In terms of action, I didn't find much. I met two women from Gaito and they aren't much to write about. Took a massage. And it was no match for Linh Cherry. Maybe I went to the wrong spots. Dating is easy in the Nang. I went on three dates on three consecutive days. One of which resulted in make out but no hook up. IMO, dating in Vietnam is fun but if you want to hook up with a local you need to stay put at a place for a minimum of two weeks to achieve that. And if you can speak local language, you can have some insane experiences.

Hoi An (no action): But I loved the colors and lanterns here. Definitely a place worth visiting.

Hanoi:

My original plan was to go visit Doi son, ha long bay and sapa with hanoi as base but I got so much action in hanoi and due to some work uncertainties (ethereum merge fucked up my Hanoi stay a bit LOL) I spent entire time staying in hanoi. I stayed at an Airbnb near the lake as suggested by Logan and it was an excellent location with great Wifi. Women loved coming to my place and the place was managed by a sweet grandma who basically let me do whatever I wanted.

Gaito:

Tried three women from Gaito. Was okay'ish. I still feel that Saigon is the best place for Gaito. Other places just don't have enough quality and quantity. FYI, I called up two women from Gaito to my place. Their rates were 600 k and 800 k and they took 2 mln to come to my place which IMO is a much better deal. Wish I had tried this in Saigon but that thought never occurred to me there. I had become much better at talking to Gaito women in Hanoi so was able to convince them of this. Basically from what I observed, their outcall rates are double their incall rates. But their service is better and they are much more relaxed. Plus, they start negotiating in hours rather than shots. So, for example, a Gaito women, more specifically this one: https://www.gaito.io/gai-goi/chi-tie...am-xinh-non-to, would charge 600 k for a shot but would take 2 mln to come to my place for an hour. And 3 mln for two hours. The advantage of outcall definitely is more GFE.

Massage Republic:

Tried Zelena from MR. Oh my God. She was extremely shy, but I had so much fun. She had style, made my dick hard when she wore glasses and it was so easy to make her cum. She isn't extremely young. But is classy. She was extremely tight and I'm not the biggest dude. Met with her thrice. It's always a challenge to your feelings at bay when you meet an escort with whom you really vibe. This one was hard to do.

Damage: 7. 2 mln for 4 hours.

She told me she only does this once every blue moon when she wants to buy something expensive. So she keeps pulling up and down her ad on MR. Right now she has pulled down her ad.

Tinder:

Normal women: Dated 2. But still no hook up. I suck at this man.

Freelancers: I actually didn't find many freelancers in hcmc. But in Hanoi I was able to find two (I actually found a lot but called up only two):

First one: Took 4 M for full night. Looks were nothing to boast about. But she was experienced. Gave full GFE and was fluent enough in english that I had fun even apart from fucking. I enjoyed it.

Second one: Took 5 M for 6 hours. Was okay'ish in looks but really playful and wanted to spend time outside of just fucking. Wanted to go to coffee and dinner dates as well.

The only problem I found with Tinder women was it was really hard to shake them off. They're clingy. Probably because through tinder they get much more than they're worth.

Cityoflove.

I had never tried cityoflove or eurogirlsescort. Since I always prefer massagerepublic and should've kept it that way.

So I decided to give these a shot. I didn't contact any women who were not of Vietnamese ethnicity since there's no point.

I didn't get much replies from eurogirls women but on cityoflove I got reply of Jane: Jane, Hanoi Escort (Independent), Viet Nam.

Worst experience in Vietnam.

So I called her up. Deal was of 5 mln for two shots. She never mentioned there was time restriction even after explicitly asking multiple times. First shot went well. She was nice. But after one she started packing up saying time is up. This women ended up costing me 5 mln and she wasn't even worth 1 mln. This pissed me off to no end. I just let her go. This was the first time I got really angry at a Vietnamese women or angry in Vietnam in general. At least a good night's sleep fixed that.

My advice: no point in trying cityoflove. Problem is that there's no review section. If you want to go to a more expensive side might as well try massagerepublic.

Fortuna:

Awesome fucking place. This is why forums exist. I went here based on criminlaz's suggestion. Wasn't really optimistic since to me it seemed expensive and would only be worth if the women were really hot. This place questioned my decision of not trying ktvs. Such an awesome place. I loved it. Not only are the women extremely hot but also the experience makes you feel like a king. It's sure shot place to have overloaded fun. If it is an unforgettable night you're after you can also try taking two women after taking to mamasan. I went on a slow day I guess. So why were pleading for their case and mamasan pushing for threesome. I'm moron. I should've tried this place earlier.

This completes my review. I know there aren't many contact infos but this review was meant to be meta, giving people who want to explore this gem of a country a guide on what are the options I tried and my opinion on them. Vietnam isn't Thailand. But there's no point in having two Thailand's. Vietnam is its own heaven. It's own unique charm. And goddamn amazing women. And for people willing to explore, it gives amazing rewards.

Great report! Where's Fortuna?

Going to HCM and Na Trang in May for the first time, so starting my research now.

[Banana Boi]

Would anyone know if there are FLs actively working Bui Vien, if so are there any st rooms nearby?

I don't believe the FL stand outside rather they have pimps on WS recruiting guys. There are tons of pimps. They will let you know they're a pimp. The girls you see on the YouTube videos are girls who work in massage and nail joints.

My experience is more around Little Japan and Pasteur Street. Hotels allow girls to your room but it is law that they have to register as guests to your room if they stay after 10 pm. Not a big deal. I'm sure Walking Street would be the same.

I know some ST hotels very near Walking Street but the names slip my mind. I really have problems remembering Vietnam business and street names to the point I don't even try. I don't even try to remember cause they are all similar to me.

[Sex God]

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