Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Hewer1]

Is NPK street busy 24/7 or is there a recommended time to go?

[SEAtraveller]

1 Her looks: She's objectively a 6.5. More cute than sexy or elegant. No baby damage, slightly chubby.

2 Her age: Didn't ask age but 25-28.

3 Looks: I'm 34, decent looking, fit, Chinese / Viet. Aussie.

4 Her wealth: Unverified 500 k USD. 2 beauty spa (only been to 1). Business does not seem great. She admitted to currently dating a Korean guy. Denied financial support.

She refused to stay overnight so thinking there's something at home waiting.

6 I'm definitely not into having a mistress /2nd wife. Would rather new girls every time I visit VN. Don't need an aging expensive girl who's probably screwing another guy.

Only positive of a regular is not having to wear condoms.

7 Cheapness: my budget is spending 500 k to get a girl into bed. Anymore then I might as well get a pro.

8 We snuck off to the bathroom to screw during a party. That was exciting. The actual sex was meh.

So, as a VK who alternates VN with Philippines, how would I most cost effectively source bareback pussy (LT)? I currently only know Kynu / Thiendia but it's expensive.

Is your 300 k+ for a girl only avail to VK who lives in VN?

Much appreciated.

[JohnIsFun]

I can't figure the angle a girl is playing. Can anyone clue me in?

Went on two dates with a cute girl. Good chemistry.

She's wealthy (inherited) - owning 2 legit hair salon / beauty parlours and land.

Great sex on the second date.

Knows I'm married but OK with it.

Never asked / received money from me. Just wants me to visit HCMC more often so she can see me.

What's the angle? There's no chance of green card, money (I'm frugal). Is she just playing the long con, hoping that I'll fall for her and leave wifey?

Well you can keep thinking about all the different reasons or just enjoy the moment. My experience in HCMC is only with girls from the dating sites. From the 5-6 girls I met on my first trip 3 jumped in the bed on the first date. Now that I have been travelling to Philippines and Vietnam often I find some girls don't like their local Asian men. There could be many reasons but my understanding is that the local guys are rude and play around. Then also life is tough and these girls work hard. They don't mind meeting a foreigner and enjoying sex if they are treated nicely, taken out for dinner. I do take gifts for my regular girls also.

I would say don't let your guard down and give away all the personal information. If she becomes demanding and clingy it could be atone to move on. But until then have fun.

[JohnIsFun]

I'm going to Saigon next week for a few days. I haven't been there in years.

Can anyone recommend a girl friendly hotel somewhere near Phan Ngu Lao or Bui Vien area?

Thanks to anyone who can recommend a place.

Most hotels will allow visitor during the day and want them to leave before 9 pm. There are some 2-3 star hotels that ignore these rules. In this forum someone had the ones below. I have not tried any of them so please reconfirm before booking.

Guest Friendly Hotel:

Aston Hotel Saigon *.

Dragon Place*.

Signature Saigon.

Blue Diamond.

Ha My3 Hotel*.

I prefer booking AirBnb apartment instead. They give you lot more privacy. I have stayed at apartment at Lamdmark 81 on my last two trips. This is little out of the way but suits me as girl I try to see works in the shopping mall. The hotels in Hanoi are more flexible than the ones in HCMC.

[MutantChicken]

I can't figure the angle a girl is playing. Can anyone clue me in?

Went on two dates with a cute girl. Good chemistry.

She's wealthy (inherited) - owning 2 legit hair salon / beauty parlours and land.

Great sex on the second date.

Knows I'm married but OK with it.

Never asked / received money from me. Just wants me to visit HCMC more often so she can see me.

What's the angle? There's no chance of green card, money (I'm frugal). Is she just playing the long con, hoping that I'll fall for her and leave wifey?

As a fellow vk who has lived here for 12 yrs, I dated for the first 6 yrs averaged about 5 gfs a year including dates that resulted sex but nothing long term I bedded probably 40-50 girls but since then I have only been interested in ST since I started recording 4 yrs ago I'm at number 1030.

So given that experience I may be able to provide some insight, the answer is "no idea" or how long is a piece of string.

The truth of the matter with the information provided without specific details, there are so many variables so ill break it down to explain my point.

1 Cute girl- what's cute a 6 , a 8/10?, your 8 could be my 5. Bottom line is the more attractive a girl is the more options, from what you are saying it appears she doesn't have many options.

2 what's her age, 30+ 20+? Again the older she is the more crap due to lack of options she has, you don't mention her age.

3 Whats your appearance like? Maybe you are a male model in looks and she is smitten by your manly attractiveness.

4 Wealthy inherited, what is this inheritance worth 400 k, 4 mill, 40 k usd, if it is at the lower end, its conceivable that most girls know if they manage to catch a vk they will be riding on a 100 kusd work horse.

5 Have you got confirmation, as to here financial assets / inheritance or is it what she told you. Eg I dated a girl similar to what you described infact she paid for many dates but then a week later she explained how her business was robbed of 20 kusd and how she needed to use that for xyz, she hinted I help her out, but when I ignored it she blocked me. Then there was another one who was a owner of a hair salon (actual) but it turns own the business was purchased for her by her ex vk BF at a cost of 10-20 k, and since then she has been running at a loss, and it was her idea that I should now cover the difference. I also fucked her on the 2nd or 3rd date, and she also paid for 2nd date.

6 Never asked money or received money, the girls I dated also never asked or received money from me INITIALLY, but down the track there are always issues that come up that need to be resolved financially. This also may be the fact they never asked for money because you volunteered or offered money to them before they needed to ask.

7 you are frugal, what does that mean you take them to 20 k hu tieu or you take them to 2 mill dinners, I have stopped dating because I have access to cute or better looking girls for 300 k+ and the sex is often good. You cannot go on cheap date, which is what I do with my dates IE coffee 50-70 k each then hu tieu etc at 50-60 k, so already for 2 that's 300 k, add the time spent and the uncertainty of getting sex and the inane stupid conversation one must engage in, the cons outweigh the pros of dating.

8 You mention great sex? What does that mean, as I mention I can get good sex from a cute+ girl in their early 20's for 300 k+.

So in summary given what I have said, who knows what's her angle, you can use this sliding scale:

If you are handsome spending 100 k on dates and or she is older less attractive with questionable finances then she is more likely to be genuine but.

If you are married older spending 2 mill etc then maybe she just enjoying dating with the quid pro quo of having to put out to enjoy a lifestyle she isn't normally accustomed to or she would be simply playing the long game.

BTW vks are known to be easily cuckolded, ie they have a wife in USA, they come to vn 1-2 x year to visit and fuck their mistress /2nd wife, the guy still sends the mistress 500-1000 usd a month, the mistress has her own husband / boyfriend hidden away. How do I know? I was the hidden boyfriend in 4 of my "relationship", and I don't mind just as long as I wasn't paying for her.

[Hardlock1]

I can't figure the angle a girl is playing. Can anyone clue me in?

Went on two dates with a cute girl. Good chemistry.

She's wealthy (inherited) - owning 2 legit hair salon / beauty parlours and land.

Great sex on the second date.

Knows I'm married but OK with it.

Never asked / received money from me. Just wants me to visit HCMC more often so she can see me.

What's the angle? There's no chance of green card, money (I'm frugal). Is she just playing the long con, hoping that I'll fall for her and leave wifey?

Yes, that is exactly what she is hoping, that you will commit to get her out of Vietnam. Either that, or she is just absolutely in love with you and don't care about anything else. Its how they are. I have damned good reason to know.

[SEAtraveller]

I can't figure the angle a girl is playing. Can anyone clue me in?

Went on two dates with a cute girl. Good chemistry.

She's wealthy (inherited) - owning 2 legit hair salon / beauty parlours and land.

Great sex on the second date.

Knows I'm married but OK with it.

Never asked / received money from me. Just wants me to visit HCMC more often so she can see me.

What's the angle? There's no chance of green card, money (I'm frugal). Is she just playing the long con, hoping that I'll fall for her and leave wifey?

[MutantChicken]

It still works but it's a bit tricky to open it. You have to type "tm quanh đwhy" into the app's search box to see it. Thanks for the contact of Tonybkk.

You must have a special version of zalo because every Viet person I know has said the tim quanh day fuction has been suspended, and at least 2 Vietnamese news websites have also reported this from early December 2019 https://lostbird.vn/kham-pha-cung-la...ay-839177.html.

Zalo its self has notified that this function is "under maintenance".

https://zalo.me/help/article/them-ke...-day-tren-zalo

[Morton219]

I'm guessing you don't actually use zalo or use zalo to find "talent" as of a few months ago the look around function to find other users nearby on zalo has been dis enabled so unless you have someones phone number you cannot add them.

It still works but it's a bit tricky to open it. You have to type "tìm quanh đâwhy" into the app's search box to see it. Thanks for the contact of Tonybkk.

[Mushuu09]

Thanks, Mushuu09.

Much appreciated.

Np. Hope you share your trip with the rest of us. If you use Line let me know how that worked. The results seem mix.

[Laloosh12]

There are probably better recs with the wealth of knowledge here, but I went on adoga and looked up hotel and emailed asking if bringing my GF would be any issue. Most of them said she needs ID. But I ended up booking Beautiful Saigon Hotel and Dragon Palace Hote for my stay near Bui Vien street. One right off which was very loud and dragon palace was closer to the park just block away from Bui vien. Not sure what the policies are now, but I would play it safe and get actual confirmation from the hotel. I emailed them all in English and got most responses back. I also suggest you book one day at a time, rates stay the same in VN and gives you flexibility on you staying or going, if you like this hotel or prefer another. Vn doesn't require prebooking for most thing, except your flight to and home. I like dragon palace the most, it was a block away so quiet enough, elevator accessible from the outside no need to go through the lobby or front desk. I booked a suite or the top end room for about $30 usd. Furniture was bit old but room had king bed, and hot tub. But again email them direclty to confirm. Vn isn't PI or Thailand, things change on a whim.

Thanks, Mushuu09.

Much appreciated.

[MutantChicken]

The HTGD on Co Bac is just a normal HT. He probably didn't go inside.

You should try Zalo. It is more commonly used than Wechat or Line in Vietnam.

I'm guessing you don't actually use zalo or use zalo to find "talent" as of a few months ago the look around function to find other users nearby on zalo has been dis enabled so unless you have someones phone number you cannot add them.

[Morton219]

I was up til 3 in the morning watching the video and trying to plot my next adventure. But I realized the places the guy actually went into we're massage parlors and hotel with massage parlors. He would show the store front with hoc toc but they were massage parlors instead. All that info is already on ISG. Anyone else visited those hoc toc yet and can verify if they're like npk?

Planning my trip to VN in a new months and hoping to get more intel, esp on cafe om or bia om places. Last time wechat was the rave and I failed miserably on that. Hoping line will be better. Is Line as good as people say? I shared my past limited experiences hope others will do the same.

The HTGD on Co Bac is just a normal HT. He probably didn't go inside.

You should try Zalo. It is more commonly used than Wechat or Line in Vietnam.

[MutantChicken]

I was up til 3 in the morning watching the video and trying to plot my next adventure. But I realized the places the guy actually went into we're massage parlors and hotel with massage parlors. He would show the store front with hoc toc but they were massage parlors instead. All that info is already on ISG. Anyone else visited those hoc toc yet and can verify if they're like npk?

Planning my trip to VN in a new months and hoping to get more intel, esp on cafe om or bia om places. Last time wechat was the rave and I failed miserably on that. Hoping line will be better. Is Line as good as people say? I shared my past limited experiences hope others will do the same.

If you download LINE in Vietnam your will not be able to access the look around function, IE locals won't use it, IE the guys who have ' have been overseas and are using to to trap / hook foreigners.

Wechat is full of scams so why would LINE especially given what I mentioned earlier be filled with honest services oriented ladies. LINE as opposed to wechat doesn't operate QC on their WL.

Bia oms = karaoke = nha hang. The issue isn't about finding them this issue is finding ones that won't rip you off, have pretty women and are available at reasonable prices. There are posts written by foreigners when they go to such places and they end up paying 1-2 m pax just for the beers and 3-6 m ST / LT for the girls, whereas local guys are paying 500 k pax and 1 m+ for ST, either way these places are not economical.

Cafe om, there was a post earlier suggesting which road to explore, this road goes from d8 to My tho distance about 45 km, now if you are prepared to ride that entire distance you will find MANY cafe om, but how many will have decent looking women, will you stop into every one of them to investigate? This all requires intel, 2 guys knowing not much riding together IE 2 blind mice rather than 1 blind mice is not going add to a better result. I for one don't want the baggage of having a newbie riding with me for many reasons, and I certainly don't want a legion of guys going to those places and overpaying like they have been with npk.

Regarding the vids on youtube, I can assure there are 3 that he has posted that either look like hotel / massage or hottocs that are full service brothels, cost 1 m-1. 3 m (though some people have mentioned not being able to get FS at one of those places), they are not on npk or are they even near it or near any western orientated establishments. These places are owned by women who operated similar places which was then posted on ISG and other similar forums and this resulted in a number of raids and resulting closures and relocation, as such even though I have better alternatives I have no interest in disclosing its location. BTW that info is not posted on ISG, what is posted is generally rubbish IE you are paying 1 m for something that you can get for 300 k.

[Mushuu09]

Have you actually viewed the video he doesn't show the address and even myself who has lived here for 12 yrs unless I actually knew the address already going there myself a 6 yrs ago trying to place landmarks was difficult so good luck for a tourist like yourself.

Anyway the asking price there is now 1 m+ it was 1 m a few years ago, and definitely there are better options for someone in the know so I wouldn't get too excited.

I was up til 3 in the morning watching the video and trying to plot my next adventure. But I realized the places the guy actually went into we're massage parlors and hotel with massage parlors. He would show the store front with hoc toc but they were massage parlors instead. All that info is already on ISG. Anyone else visited those hoc toc yet and can verify if they're like npk?

Planning my trip to VN in a new months and hoping to get more intel, esp on cafe om or bia om places. Last time wechat was the rave and I failed miserably on that. Hoping line will be better. Is Line as good as people say? I shared my past limited experiences hope others will do the same.