Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Gargano19]

I assumed the chubby girl would be leading me to a viewing area where the girls line up, but after two flights of stairs we reached a row of small rooms where the action clearly takes place. The girl had obviously grabbed me as her own customer before I had chance to see any of the other girls!

Pretty common, happened with me too, the first time I went there. Smart on you to get the line up anyway.

I've read that extras like 69 and rimming are sometimes available so I asked if we could do 69. She didn't understand at first but after some miming by me, she realised what I was asking for and shook her head.

I've read that sex isn't on the menu in these places so either the guy had the most skillful fingers in the world or the girl was auditioning for an Oscar.

Usually sex is available in some BJ shops, you just have to ask at reception and check which girls are ready to do it.

There hadn't been any talk of money from the moment I stepped inside the hot-toc and online I'd read conflicting reports on price (there's always one smart-arse on every ISG thread who thinks they are god's gift because they can get 'local prices') . So when I reached the cashier on the ground floor I decided to test the water and handed over a 500,000 dong note. An older woman put my money in to the till but I stood my ground, waiting, and she suddenly remembered that she was meant to give me change and handed back 100,000 dong. So I paid 400,000 which I think is excellent value. You'd struggle to get a blowjob for that price in most sex establishments across Asia

This can be very risky. Always ask for prices, there's less chance of you getting ripped in a massage shop rather than in a club, but still better not take risk. Price was good indeed.

Overall a great FR, thanks.

[Sir Lancelot]

DAY 2: HOT TOCS.

I spent most of the afternoon wandering around Ho Chi Minh City enjoying the sights. I deliberately planned it so my walking route ended at Jade Emperor Pagoda. Not only is it a pretty, tranquil place to visit away from the noisy streets, it is just a short walk away from NPK where a number of hot-tocs are located. I believe 'hot-toc' translates to 'hairdresser' but these are places you go for a blowjob, not a blow-dry. I'd read good things about them online and was very keen to try them for myself.

Nguyen Phi Khanh street is located in the north of District 1 just south of the Kenh Nhieu Loc river. I entered at the Eastern end of the street at the intersection with the busy Dinh Tien Hoang road but if you got a taxi, you could ask for HMC Tower. At the entrance to NPK I was amused to see a coffee house called Phuc Long. Sadly, no sex is on the menu at NPK.

It's a fairly quiet mainly residential street, about 400 meters long. At first I didn't see many signs of life but as the road neared Tran Quang Khai, there are numerous hot-tocs to choose from. Each has a small neon sign which says 'goi dau ham' and someone sitting on a chair outside trying to coax you inside to see the girls. 'You wan girl?' a young man said as I strolled past. It was 6 pm and there were roughly half a dozen hot-tocs open but almost all of the doors were closed so I couldn't see the girls. Number 112 had its sliding door slightly open so I was able to glimpse inside and see a promising selection of about six girls, all fairly youngish. They were sat in a row, it reminded me of the Dolly brothels in Surabaya, Indonesia.

I've read people recommending that the best thing to do is to go inside each hot-toc and ask to see a lineup, then return to the one with your favourite girl. I've never been a fan of this kind of selection method. I've always thought that asking to see a lineup and then walking out is rude and I've spoken to gogo and massage girls who agree. I know the girls are there to provide a service and we are the 'buyers' but I've always thought it's a demeaning thing to do. But also I think it means you are less likely to receive a good service as no girl likes to be picked five minutes after being rejected!

Recce finished, it was time to pick a girl. 112 and 122 get good mentions online but I decided to go in to number 84 as it seems to be the most popular. It's opposite the junction with Ly Can Phuc and when I slid the door open I was greeted enthusiastically by a short, chubby girl with big natural boobs. She said 'follow' and walked up some stairs but I noticed probably about ten girls lazing around on couches on the ground floor, including a few pretty ones. I got that familiar tingle of anticipation when I know I'm about to meet a girl.

I assumed the chubby girl would be leading me to a viewing area where the girls line up, but after two flights of stairs we reached a row of small rooms where the action clearly takes place. The girl had obviously grabbed me as her own customer before I had chance to see any of the other girls! To be fair, I was tempted. Facially she was a 4/10 but she had big wobbly tits. I've just come out of a relationship with a beautiful blonde girl 14 years my junior, who was perfect in almost every way except she had tiny A-cup breasts. Getting my hands on a big pair of natural tits for the first time in four years was very tempting. But I decided that to get the full experience of this hot-toc, I needed to see some other girls.

She shouted down the stairs and five girls came up. Two of them were very pretty, the type of girls you could imagine being popular in the upscale gogo bars in Thailand. They were slim with nice figures, both had long dark hair and beautiful facial features. Unfortunately one of them wouldn't meet my eyes when I looked at her and the other was more interested by her phone. I never pick girls who don't want to be picked, no matter how pretty they are. The other three girls were keen though and as is often the case in these scenarios, I picked the one with the biggest smile. She was small and I'd guess was mid 20's. She had a pretty face, a nice figure and a flirty nature which suggested good service.

She led me through to one of the small cubicles which only had room for a single bed and a small sink. She invited me to get unchanged and left the room to get her small basket of massage paraphernalia. I did as instructed and was grateful to cool down under an air-con unit. It had been a particularly hot, humid day. When she reappeared she asked me to lie down on my front and proceeded to use cold water and a flannel to wipe me. I tried to make conversation with her and although she didn't speak English, she was very smiley and I was able to ascertain that her name was Tam. She gave me a brief shoulder massage that involved lots of light slapping.

When she asked me to turn over I noticed that she had pulled off her top revealing a lovely pair of tits. They were medium sized, firm and like the girl last night had big round nipples. I think Vietnamese girls win the Asian Big Nipple Trophy! She used her flannel to wipe my chest and arms and then paid a lot of attention to wiping my dick which unsurprisingly was springing to life. She then leaned down and began giving me an excellent bareback blowjob. It was slow and deep with really good suction, a proper blowjob, not the pretend one I had last night. The girl I recently split up with back at home in England refused to give me oral sex so it was heaven to have warm lips wrapped around my dick again.

As she sucked and slowly built pace, I stroked her arse and inserted a finger in to one of the tightest pussies I've ever felt. I suppose that's the advantage of a girl working in a blowjob bar as opposed to somewhere she gets fucked multiple times every day. Her pussy was tight as opposed to the width of one of the CuChi tunnels! After a while she turned to face me so I could fondle her beautiful tits and gave me a skillful handjob with a firm grip. I could have shot my load at any time but I wanted to last as long as possible and savour every second.

I've read that extras like 69 and rimming are sometimes available so I asked if we could do 69. She didn't understand at first but after some miming by me, she realised what I was asking for and shook her head. I wasn't too disappointed though, I asked her to suck me again and once again it was a perfect blowjob. There was a mirror at the foot of the bed so I watched her head bobbing up and down until eventually I unloaded in to her mouth. I'd missed blowjobs like this.

As we both got changed there were lots of porn-star groans from a girl in the next cubicle, building in volume until they reached a theatrical crescendo, coinciding with a male voice 'aaa-aaa-aaaaargh'. I've read that sex isn't on the menu in these places so either the guy had the most skillful fingers in the world or the girl was auditioning for an Oscar.

There hadn't been any talk of money from the moment I stepped inside the hot-toc and online I'd read conflicting reports on price (there's always one smart-arse on every ISG thread who thinks they are god's gift because they can get 'local prices') . So when I reached the cashier on the ground floor I decided to test the water and handed over a 500,000 dong note. An older woman put my money in to the till but I stood my ground, waiting, and she suddenly remembered that she was meant to give me change and handed back 100,000 dong.

So I paid 400,000 which I think is excellent value. You'd struggle to get a blowjob for that price in most sex establishments across Asia. On top of that, the girl was pretty and the service exceptional. If I lived in Ho Chi Minh City or was visiting for longer, I would certainly be a regular at these kind of places.

Before the trip I decided I wanted to visit both Zeus and KPK to make a comparison. There is only one winner in my eyes. The hot-tocs on KPK tick all three main boxes. They have good girls, good prices and good service, as opposed to Zeus which charged 250% more for a tired service from a surly girl. Of course there's the probability that I was just unlucky with my experience at Zeus but even taking that in to account, if you're looking for a good blowjob, forget Zeus and go to Nguyen Phi Khanh street.

I got a xe-om back to my hotel, clinging on to the back as the motorbike weaved through the rush-hour traffic. KPK is probably a half hour walk from the Bui Vien area but motorbike taxis are a very cheap way to get around.

I got back to my hotel and after a change of clothes and something to eat, decided to visit Bui Vien street again. It was 10 pm and much busier than the night before. A lot of the bars had put chairs out in front and large crowds gathered around a street performer. But the place felt very touristy. I'd seen photos and videos online that made me think it would be like Thailand with lots of bar-girls but most of the seats were taken by backpackers. Although there is a big 'Walking Street' sign at one end, this definitely isn't Pattaya. Thankfully though, some bars did had a 'girlie' feel. I saw a lovely looking young girl in Lovely Bar near the end, there were a dozen sexy girls outside Go2 on the corner and a healthy selection of young, smiling girls outside Blue Sky 2. But most of the bars had older girls past their use-by date, tightly fitted in to dresses about three sizes too small for them.

Undoubtedly there were some pretty girls and with more time on my hands it would be easy to find some quality pay-for-play here. But at a price. According to my research these girls charge hefty prices, especially for sex. The prettiest girl was sat outside a small bar near the Cong Quynh end of the street. She met my gaze and smiled and waved coyly. She was a 10/10 in my books but something about her said ladyboy. The fake tits perhaps. I kept walking.

I wanted to explore the Thai-style 'massage with extras' places in the narrow alleys that surround the main drag. I walked up several of the alleys and there were a number of legitimate looking massage places with girls sat out front. 'You wan massage sir?' they said as I walked past. These places offer a genuine massage service but 'extras' can be negotiated. The girls were generally older and the quality definitely veered towards average but I did see a few attractive options. I saw one pretty young girl with dyed blonde hair (something about Asians with blonde hair turns me on) and another girl wearing cat ears grabbed my arm and wouldn't let go. I was tempted by her feline advances but wanted to explore more.

The girl I was most tempted by was probably 30 years old, had a spectacular figure and was wearing fishnet stockings. She blocked my way in the narrow alley and when she sensed interest, grabbed my arm and jiggled her big tits at me. 'I give you good massage' she said, pressing herself in to me and fixing me with a 'fuck me' stare. She was older than girls I usually go for but she had a great face and a slutty appeal. I was very tempted but felt exhausted due to jetlag. I'd probably fall asleep mid-massage if I went inside with her!

I went back to my hotel and was in bed shortly afterwards. Oddly I couldn't sleep for about half an hour, my mind kept thinking about the girl in fishnets. Maybe I would fuck her tomorrow. So far on the trip I'd had two blowjobs, tomorrow would be my last day in Ho Chi Minh City and I was on the lookout for full sex.

[Geano]

Hi all,

Has anyone tried to send a VN girl friend a sex toy? Or have you heard of any restrictions on mailing items like that? Thanks for any input. Geano.

[Manfield04]

Sir Lancelot! What a surprise! It's been such a long time. I read with much pleasure your New Delhi diaries and lots of your posts in the Angeles City and Manila Forums. Welcome Back!

At the start of March I spent three days in Ho Chi Minh City. Tomorrow I plan to visit the hot-tocs on NPK street, where the service is meant to be much better and the prices much cheaper.

[Lefeu]

...Overall I was unimpressed with Zeus. The girl was okay lookswise but bored and didn't make much of an effort. The sauna and steam room were completely unnecessary and the sexual parts were very disappointing. I was really looking forward to the boob massage but it only lasted 30 seconds and the blowjob wasn't really a blowjob at all and only lasted a few minutes. I ended up being wanked off for 1 million dong! The massage was excellent but we don't come to these kind of places for the massage...

Sorry to hear about your misadventure at Zeus, but I enjoyed reading your report as it was well written. Thanks a lot.

[Sir Lancelot]

At the start of March I spent three days in Ho Chi Minh City.

DAY 1: ZEUS.

I arrived in Ho Chi Minh at 4 pm, feeling tired after a lengthy 14 hour flight from the UK. It would have been tempting to go to bed and catch up on some sleep, but I only had a short time to explore HCMCs pay-for-play and wanted to hit the ground running.

My hotel in District 1 was chosen purely based on its proximity to the popular Bui Vien area. It took just five minutes to reach the busy street. Bui Vien forks off from the busy Duong Tran Hung Dao and is about 500 meters long with lots of bars and restaurants. I planned to explore it more thoroughly on another night but for now I was hungry, so chose a restaurant / bar called Donkey, which had a sexy girl dancing on a table inside. It was directly opposite the most popular bar on the street, Miss Saigon. I had my first bowl of pho of the trip, some spring rolls and a beer and was then ready to find a girl.

I'd done a lot of research on ISG prior to my trip and my plan was to go to Zeus Massage on my first night. I knew I'd be tired after the long flight so I just wanted to go somewhere convenient and easy. The place is easy to find, located at 359 Pham Ngu Lao, a street which runs parallel to Bui Vien. A young guy was sat on a chair outside and made a call on his walkie-talkie before escorting me up a flight of stairs. On the left was a waiting room, containing about ten reclining chairs facing a TV. Four young Vietnamese men were standing around a reception counter but I got the impression they were members of staff as opposed to customers. It was 7 pm and surprisingly there were no other customers.

I was handed a laminated flyer with a price-list and the services offered:

- 1 million, 70 minutes, massage, boob massage and blowjob.

- 1. 8 m, as above but 100 minutes, 2 pops and tongue bath.

- 2. 4 m, as above but 120 minutes plus 69.

- 3. 6 m, as above but with two girls.

Amusingly there was a 'VIP option' in which you could spend an eye-watering 13 million dong for 4 girls and 4 pops! As I was tired after a long day of travel I chose the cheapest option.

Then I was handed an iPad with a list of the available girls, their age and vital stats. I scrolled up and down several times admiring the girls. All of the photos were model-style professional shots of young, pretty, smiling girls. I've traveled extensively around Asia and explored a lot of the pay-for-play and have to say Vietnamese girls are as pretty as any girls in Asia. However, I knew not to get too excited. I'd read a few reviews saying that the girls don't resemble their photos and I remember a similar scenario years ago, picking a girl from the website of the famous Annie's Massage in Bangkok, then being severely underwhelmed when I met her in person.

I chose the youngest, who was very cute and had a resemblance to one of my best friends daughters who I've often fantasised about fucking. I got led up another flight of stairs to a corridor and he knocked on the first door on the right. The girl who answered didn't resemble the photo I'd picked even slightly. She was chubbier and facially completely different. She could have been a different girl! However, she was still young and cute and had nice curves beneath the red, lacy dress she was wearing. I was reasonably pleased. I'd lowered my expectations sufficiently enough not to be too disappointed.

However that's where things went downhill. She greeted me coldly with no smile, just a shrug towards the bed and she said 'undressed'. I tried to engage her in conversation as I got unchanged but she didn't speak English. Normally that's not a problem. I've met a lot of pay-for-play girls when there's a language barrier but you can still make very basic conversation, flirt and smile. But this girl seemed tired and bored, like my presence there was an inconvenience to her.

The first 20 minutes were a complete waste of time. The room included small cubicles with a steam room and a sauna and she invited me to sit in both. When I go to massage places I'm not interested in receiving a spa treatment! When finished I stood in a round bath and she showered and washed me with soap. When she washed my dick she blew a kiss, the first trace of any personality she'd shown. I dried off and lay on the massage bed and she proceeded to give me an excellent, professional-style massage. Her fingers were very firm and it was the perfect antidote to a long day's travel. At one point she stood on me and my back clicked. She then gave me a hot stone massage before asking me to turn over.

Finally, some action was imminent!

She took off her lacy top revealing a really firm pair of medium sized tits and began gently rubbing them up and down my stomach while caressing my dick. This has always been a big turn-on of mine but sadly it only lasted about 30 seconds before she began giving me a 'blowjob'. I use the word very loosely though because it wasn't really a blowjob, she just wanked me with her hand while half-heartedly pretending to suck. Her lovely arse was pointed in my direction, so I stroked it and inserted a few fingers in to her pussy. After a few minutes she gave up on pretending to suck me and wanked me off as I squeezed her lovely tits, until I came up my chest.

Overall I was unimpressed with Zeus. The girl was okay lookswise but bored and didn't make much of an effort. The sauna and steam room were completely unnecessary and the sexual parts were very disappointing. I was really looking forward to the boob massage but it only lasted 30 seconds and the blowjob wasn't really a blowjob at all and only lasted a few minutes. I ended up being wanked off for 1 million dong! The massage was excellent but we don't come to these kind of places for the massage.

Before I left I was handed a 20% discount flyer. Although Zeus Massage is very convenient and close to my hotel, I don't think I'll return. If the services provided were decent. A nice boob massage and a really good blowjob - 800,000 would be good value in my opinion given the young, reasonably pretty girl. But when you strip away all of the spa treatment extras, the sexual service I received was very average.

Tomorrow I plan to visit the hot-tocs on NPK street, where the service is meant to be much better and the prices much cheaper.

[Meo Den]

There was a bunch of them when I was there back in January / February. There were about half a dozen, standing on soy nana, next to Hilary bar. But I heard they left since then, chased by the police. I met a cute girl there and I practically wifed up with her for the time I was there.

Yes, I heard some were working around Nana. I know some used to work in Bangkok gogos (those where non-Asians were denied entry).

[Lefeu]

Where did you find them in Bangkok?

Agree about the scene in HCMC. It is tough for non-Asians, and especially for non-Vietnamese speakers.

There was a bunch of them when I was there back in January / February. There were about half a dozen, standing on soy nana, next to Hilary bar. But I heard they left since then, chased by the police. I met a cute girl there and I practically wifed up with her for the time I was there.

[MutantChicken]

All my favorite places are closed and they don't know when they can reopen. I hope this situation won't go on for too long.

Yes sure sucks to be you, whereas in the areas free of foreigner patronage its business as usual if anything girls are asking less hahah sure some massage places are closed but the htgd, the cafe om, the freelancers, the street girls are all business as usual.

[Morton219]

All my favorite places are closed and they don't know when they can reopen. I hope this situation won't go on for too long.

[RainmanSahut]

Then get real answers.

I will help You Hanoi.

Rainman.

[SethMacfarlane]

Hi all,

I am silent reader from few weeks. After reading reviews I'm planning to do a trip to Vietnam. I'm a Canadian. Have been in Thailand last year. I didn't like that place, girls are not prettier than I expect. I like something like Chinese girls. Don't know I can get really cuties in Vietnam. Kindly advise me how can I find real pretty girls in Vietnam and which city would be good?

I had a lot of luck on tinder / tantan / wechat / line / zalo, so definitely try those. Some might advertise as massage but I found it best to just get straight to the point and tell them what your looking for after you get an offer (remember to ask for pix). On bui vien tons of young beautiful women offering massages, I know most say to avoid these types but honestly these were the best ones. If you like the girl, take her back to your place and have some fun. Most girls started at 2 mil vnd (LOL) but almost all accepted 500 k-1 mil, I'm not big into overnighters, so I don't have pricing for that. Also, there was one spot called crazy girls I think on bui vien. Drinks slightly overpriced but it's basically a girly bar. If you see something that catches your eye, have a sit, order yourself and her a drink. Most speak very little English but that's what google Translate is for. Tell her you want to take her to your place and she'll give you a price. I forgot how much it was but these girls were offering overnighters, by this time I was too drunk and just wanted to see what this place was all about, just an FYI, it is a little sketchy. I stayed at the galaxy boutique hotel, just steps away from bui vien, very clean, good WiFi, air conditioning, backpacker central, English widely spoken and really cheap. 20 usd a night on agoda. They didn't care about guest, I had about 10 in 3 days and was never given a second look. All else fails go to a hot toc, check YouTube for videos uploaded by lanlan and lala3. Lost of good info there. I also went to Hanoi this year as well, way harder to get some action there. I have a couple contacts I won't mind throwing your way, pm me for their what's app.

[Skepti10]

I just visited Thailand a few weeks ago. Honestly, I think the girls there look very similar to Vietnamese girls. If you couldn't find any girl in Thailand that fits your taste, I'm afraid it will be hard for you to find them in Vietnam.

I would disagree. The typical Thai look is notably different to the typical Vietnamese look.

Canada123 - If you're set on Vietnam I would suggest going to the North as chances are those girls may have more Chinese ancestry. However the biggest town there is Hanoi, and mongering action is not easy to find. If you prefer to the Chinese look your best bet really is China / HK / Macau. If there was no Coronavirus Macau would be the best place to get Chinese girls, assuming you had the money. If you're ok with brothel action, surely Vancouver would be the most convenient with its large Chinese population?

[Morton219]

Hi all,

I am silent reader from few weeks. After reading reviews I'm planning to do a trip to Vietnam. I'm a Canadian. Have been in Thailand last year. I didn't like that place, girls are not prettier than I expect. I like something like Chinese girls. Don't know I can get really cuties in Vietnam. Kindly advise me how can I find real pretty girls in Vietnam and which city would be good?

I just visited Thailand a few weeks ago. Honestly, I think the girls there look very similar to Vietnamese girls. If you couldn't find any girl in Thailand that fits your taste, I'm afraid it will be hard for you to find them in Vietnam.

[Meo Den]

Beautiful girls in Vietnam, I agree, but relaxed scene? I did not find HCMC relaxing at all. I was being scammed left and right, everything had to be discreet. I had to move from a 4 star hotel to a 3 star, to get a girl to spend the night in my room. I can go on but I found the Viets adorable and easier overseas. Plenty of them in Macau, Singapore, Jakarta, and even Bangkok of all places.

Where did you find them in Bangkok?

Agree about the scene in HCMC. It is tough for non-Asians, and especially for non-Vietnamese speakers.