Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[TomSf]

Team,

I want to do a Hong kong and Vietnam trip. As some of you may know the prices of airfare are much cheaper if you book while in asia compared to booking in the states. I need to be flexible in Asia so if I need to rush back to states for work I can. My plan is to fly to Hong kong first. In China tickets must have a departure date so I can't by one way. If I buy Hong kong to viet from states it will cost more.

Any advice on which airline is most flexible with frequent trips back and forth from Hong kong to Saigon?

Also, for cell phone I got turned onto Viber app which is free calls international. Anyone use it in Saigon?

[L L T0]

Those places like the ones you are saying are only beauty shops, and you will not get nothing unless you go there for a few times, and make friends with one of the girls. They use to dress this girls like that to attract tourists, but that is as much as you will see there. But it will be as expensive as if you went to a Hotel Spa, where you can get your HJ / HE as a standard procedure without so many visits and in the same D1. Of course the fee for the massage on the hotel spa will run between 200,000 VND to 350,000 and tip varies between 300,000-500 000 VND, but the good thing is that if you don't like the treatment on the hotel, don't tip, and just get out. They will be mad, but next time don't ask for that girl. They have to work hard and nice to get a tip.

Good luck there.

I was in Ho Chi Minh City for a few days. Only had brief moments where I could get out and look for some simple action. So, a block or two from the market in D1, on a medium busy street there was what appeared to be a hair and massage place. There were about 10 girls seated inside by the door but clearly visible from the sidewalk. All were dressed like bar girls from Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza in Bangkok. So, I figured this must be a place for some fun. I went in (around 4pm) and all the girls jumped up and greeted me. The mamasan came over and showed me a menu that included legitimate hair and massage services. I chose a one hour oil massage and shampoo thinking this would be my best bet and it was 170K or 240K (I can't remember). The mamasan snapped at one of the girls and she jumped up and took me back. So they started by washing my hair and then put some kind of cucumber facial thing on my face. I was not in a private room but it was a dark area with sinks like a beauty shop. Then they took me to a room and told me to change into some shorts and a short robe. Then took me to a massage room with 6 or 8 tables next to each other. No curtains. Girl commenced to giving me a decent oil and Thai massage. She finished and offered nothing extra and no happy ending. But she said I had to tip her at least 200, 000 VND! Perhaps I should have gone for the VIP treatment the mamasan offered me but it was 2 hours long and 300K +, and I didn't have a spare two hours. So even though the girls were dressed like hookers and looked like working girls...

[Dragonfly22]

Fla Mike, the old saying goes "if it looks like something is going on, chances are, it's not"! On some rare occasions I have gotten a HJ at some of these legit places but ONLY after I have been there a few times. They take you to a secluded massage room usually on the 3rd or 4th floor. You can usually forget the places handing out flyers as they are tourist traps and usually nothing going on there.

[TomSf]

I was in Ho Chi Minh City for a few days. Only had brief moments where I could get out and look for some simple action. So, a block or two from the market in D1, on a medium busy street there was what appeared to be a hair and massage place. There were about 10 girls seated inside by the door but clearly visible from the sidewalk. All were dressed like bar girls from Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza in Bangkok. So, I figured this must be a place for some fun. I went in (around 4pm) and all the girls jumped up and greeted me. The mamasan came over and showed me a menu that included legitimate hair and massage services. I chose a one hour oil massage and shampoo thinking this would be my best bet and it was 170K or 240K (I can't remember)...

Florida Mike,

Hope you did not give the 200,000 tip for nothing. You should have tipped $2 USD in dong. Don't let people like this rip you off just because your from out of town. People can't tell you what to tip. Why should she give you a BJ if you pay her anyway. Someone once said if it seems like something is going on it is not in Vietnam.

[FloridaMike]

I was in Ho Chi Minh City for a few days. Only had brief moments where I could get out and look for some simple action. So, a block or two from the market in D1, on a medium busy street there was what appeared to be a hair and massage place. There were about 10 girls seated inside by the door but clearly visible from the sidewalk. All were dressed like bar girls from Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza in Bangkok. So, I figured this must be a place for some fun. I went in (around 4pm) and all the girls jumped up and greeted me. The mamasan came over and showed me a menu that included legitimate hair and massage services. I chose a one hour oil massage and shampoo thinking this would be my best bet and it was 170K or 240K (I can't remember). The mamasan snapped at one of the girls and she jumped up and took me back. So they started by washing my hair and then put some kind of cucumber facial thing on my face. I was not in a private room but it was a dark area with sinks like a beauty shop. Then they took me to a room and told me to change into some shorts and a short robe. Then took me to a massage room with 6 or 8 tables next to each other. No curtains. Girl commenced to giving me a decent oil and Thai massage. She finished and offered nothing extra and no happy ending. But she said I had to tip her at least 200,000 VND! Perhaps I should have gone for the VIP treatment the mamasan offered me but it was 2 hours long and 300K +, and I didn't have a spare two hours. So even though the girls were dressed like hookers and looked like working girls. It was a big zero. Perhaps I didn't know what I was doing.

So I tried again the next day around 1pm on the same street but a block up. Another hair place that offered massages, and had a frosted glass window / door and seemed very quiet. As opposed to the place I mentioned above. So, I thought, this place looks like it is trying to operate under the radar. Let me try it. Went in, cute girl waited on me. The menu was on the front counter and offered the normal massages, (oil, thai, etc). I chose the one hour oil massage again. Took me back to a room with lockers and told me to change into shorts and a short robe. I did and they took me to a private room (2 massage tables but I was the only one in there. And they shut the door different girl came in for the massage. Got a massage and then about 50 minutes later, she stopped massaging and said it is over. I said,"that's all?" and she replied yes. I then said, I can't get any more? I can't get anything else? And she replied no that is all. She didn't even demand a tip like the first girl.

Later I walked by another place like the first place where the girls were dressed like bar girls but was on my way to meet a friend. There were two guys outside who said,"hey you want a foot massage?" I said no and kept walking. But thinking back maybe they were touts. Also, there was a guy on a street corner handing out legitimate looking flyers for one of the hotel Spas. Maybe I should have tried that place. I also saw some nail salons that offered massages that were down some narrow alleys. But I didn't have time to check these places out. So after reading that all massage places offer happy endings as standard procedure, I am here to say that did not happen.

[LuvAsianTang]

"Area 1 barbarshops offering sex.

The shops have moved I counted 7 in total, some with 5-6 girls others with 10-12, again ranging in looks 5-7. And occasional 8. Cost 600+200, for me the best option."

I wasn't aware of these barber shops offering FS in area 1, would you like to share please?

Thanks in advance, LAT

[MutantChicken]

Summary of HCMC cheong spots.

I had a opportunity to take a gentleman on a tour explore most of the hcmc hotspots so I'll use that to formulate a summary of hcmc options in light of the current raids.

D1 Bars.

Still available but very low key, the pretty much ignore you unless you call them over and they don't offer hotel services unless you are "safe". Prices I believe 50-70 St + bf and 100+ bf LT. Over all very non viable unless you don't know better. Looks ok 5-7's. Nothing to say WOW.

Tourist bars.

The same as usual, though I have seen a few cuties, tho mostly older girls, again good for cheaper beers and friendlier girls, the cutie I asked about wanted 70usd St ie about 1.4mill. Fun for chatting and flirting though factoring ST hotel and questionable service again not my idea of value.

Area 1 barbarshops offering sex.

The shops have moved I counted 7 in total, some with 5-6 girls others with 10-12, again ranging in looks 5-7. And occasional 8. Cost 600+200, for me the best option.

Area 2.

This area is also foreigner exposed a total of 10 shops I counted older types more so than area 1 but again avg rnage 5-7 with a few 8's. Cost is 1mill +200. Given that its more expensive but the price difference is smaller ie 400k compared to the 550k or close to 100% difference. Makes this now a viable alternative.

Area 3 little foreigner exposure.

5-6 shops only some with 10-12 girls. These girls look more heavily made up but again the same types of 5-7's. Price 1mil +2-300k ticket.

As with area two it is now a viable option sincew area 1 price increase.

Bia om.

We took a look at two on LHP, we only wanted to look at girls avail for over night, these two places offered 4-5 girls each. Admittedly we came late at 8+pm and so the choice was limited with some 7's but motsly 5-6's. Not sure about the LT costs but I assume it would again bve the market of 100usd ST 1mill. The tips was 200k for girls 100k for mommy and 50-90k for the servcie staff, beers were 40k each, fruit 150k, kareoke 75k, napkins 20k. So again unless you like to sing and drink, that's not ideal.

Bia om 166.

Those in the know are aware it was recently raided so its SOP has definately changed, when asked about girls willing to go overnight was told they cannot help, you need to determine yourself, we came at 10; 30. The girls shown was only 2 and they only 5's. Seems this place has def been spolit and shoudl be avoided.

Benny.

It now looks from the outside like a eatery. The girls all 4-5's, you enter and they write on a piece of paper that the ticket is 120, tipp is 200k. 320k total etc etc so this places has been ruined by foreigners.

DBL.

This area totally shut down, there used to be area adjacent but I didn't get a chance to look.

The other BBBJ place in d1.

This place has quite a few shops with quite a few decent girls, however be aware of the private room scam. Some may call it a scam some might. Basically if you don't specify the shared room, you will get the private room at a 50-60k surcharge ie 100-120k for normal room or 180-200k for private room, and given that the tip matches the ticket, you total price should be 250-300k or upto 400k if you are scammed. Small money for some, or 60% extra for others. Overall a good option if you in the area.

Bo ke area. Also totally closed down.

Rest of the city.

For those in the know and those with transport, its possible to find massages with the BJ option for 100 ticket + 200-300 for the BJ. Or hot tocs with BJ for 150-250k inclusive of ticket and tip. The looks of these girls are non uniform, you need luck to find the gem

[WhiteBunny]

I need to know about the confirmed hotel girl friendly, I like to take the girl overnight. I did some reaches and I found out the following hotels:

1- Sophia Hotel.

2- Ho Sen 1 Lotus Lake

3- Ho Sen 2 Apollo

4- Indochine Hotel

5- Bongs sen hotel.

6- White Lotus Hotel.

You can try May Hotel in Thi Sap street. Girl friendly, but need to pay 10USD to take her up.

[Goons]

Hey guys,

I need some additional input on my situation. I'll be doing mostly touristy stuff while I'm there which means I'll have a small daypack with my mirrorless camera (concealed and in the bag) , and possibly cash and my travel documents. I may choose to go directly to a place like Benny's or a random massage or hostess club rather than going back to my hotel and leaving my stuff. Is that recommended, does carrying a bag somehow make me into a bigger target?

Also, I've been going over google maps inputting adresses I've found here, with little luck. There are at least three different results that come out for Benny's, one east of the airport, another south of it and a third. Without knowing where these places are exactly myself can I rely on the cab or tuk2x drivers to find them easily from a written address on my notepad?

[OralnDoxx]

I need to know about the confirmed hotel girl friendly, I like to take the girl overnight. I did some reaches and I found out the following hotels:

1- Sophia Hotel.

2- Ho Sen 1 Lotus Lake

3- Ho Sen 2 Apollo

4- Indochine Hotel

5- Bongs sen hotel.

6- White Lotus Hotel.

[SmallBird]

Actually I passed by this forum few times, but I have never really found someone said they fuck some vietnamese st for maybe 800k dong.

Price went up greatly recently because the police want a very big portion from the sex service industry.

So 600k 650k 800k now?

Let's take it 800k, about 40 USD, not very cheap for in house fucking. At least much more expensive than Haiphong. 10USD / st, but lousy service. Can't expect too much on 10USD.

But at least far cheaper than outside scammer massage girl.

The location is just south of HCM Tan Son Nhat airport. In walking distance if you like to walk. At least in walking distance for me.

There is a maximart there, use google map, you can find a maximart just south of airport.

Opposite the maximart, around that area, many many korean shops. The shops look like barber shop but with name babershop. But with korean word in front. This is where you can find 800k / hour service.

I think at least 10 shops in the vicinity, maybe even more. But there was a big police operation few months ago. So that's why the price has gone up from 650k to 800k to maybe even more now after the operation.

The price is standard. Their main customer is korean businessmen. They welcome all kind of foreigners. Local goes to some sort of cheap karaoke that we don't know.

Explore. Be an explorer and explore that area. You are can find something out there.

The shops I provide below might not exist anymore, because there so much changes since my last visit to HCMC, but it might give you a clue, and might find out some shops resurrect!

24 Giai Phong St.

37 Thang Long Road.

12A Bavi St.

2/1 Do Son St P. 4 Tan Binh District.

Good luck.

[Catnip]

Hi all!

First of all, cheers to previous posters on advice about the mongering spots.

I though I would give an overview of my first day in Saigon.

I went to Benny's at around 8pm (90 Dien Bu Phu, Binh Thanh district. Make sure you tell the taxi the correct district) and price was 150k to house + 200k to girl. Only 3-4 girls working. Quality wasn't that great but skills were a plus. The other hot toc down / up the road (My Tien. 110 Dien Bu Phu) has now closed and is just a cafe. Advice = only go here once to say you have been and done it. Not really worth the effort of finding it and repeating based on my experience.

After that I had dinner in Dong Khoi and asked for directions to Hai Ba Trung street. Walked down there and was propositioned many times by touts. Many of the bars previously mentioned are still running. Didn't go inside as I was a sweaty riceball (I am Asian) and wasn't in the mood. A street tout offered me a girl for 40USD plus hotel $20-30. I followed as I was curious and the girl was pretty enough. Hard to imagine how they look naked when they wear tight dresses and push and lifts up the main parts of the body. In the end I didn't go for it as again sweaty riceball. The hotel's name is Thien Kim Duc the tout showed me if anyone is game.

After that hit a casino and won some dough. Then went back to my hotel (Hoang Hai Lai 2. Right next to Binh Thanh market) and witnessed a commotion of 3 Asians trying to bring up 2 working girls. They were promptly stopped by reception. After this sideshow I entered the elevator and the bellman followed me. The bellman here like me as I tip them well. He offered in hushed tones a girl for me ST at 1mil or 400k for massage. Even though we were the only ones in the elevator. I accepted and about 20mins later he brought up a cute girl. She showered and I did the same. However she was a fish, no kissing, no BBBJ. As expected I wasn't thrilled about this and only tipped her 100k. She wasn't thrilled about this but I explained she would have gotten more if the effort was there.

After the deed and she left the bellman came to check if all went well. I told him how it went. No play by play but explained she wasn't very good. He was very apologetic and guaranteed me that next time the girl will be better. I gave him 200k but mentioned it would be more had the girl performed better (got to give him both carrot and stick).

So the hotel I am staying at is girl friendly so long as they are supplying. Just get in good with the bellman. They are the connection to the mongering scene.

After all that I went for a walk around and was hassled incessantly by touts. Later came back and a different bellman offered me a girl, this was at about 11:30pm. Said no and told him I already partook in some fun and funnily enough he said he heard that the girl was shit hehe! Looks like I already have a rep here.

On another note, the girl that was delivered to my room had an engagement ring on her. Maybe that's why she wasn't into the extras (or standard as I see it).

Either way a fun filled day. If I go mongering again I will report again.

Cheers,

Catnip

[Catnip]

Hi all,

I am in Ho Chi Minh now and wanted to give an update on how my first day went.

First tried to go to the hot tocs in Dien Bu Phu street. I went at around 8pm. Only Benny"s (110 Dien Bu Phu, Binh Thanh District) is running (with only 3 or 4 girls working). My Tien has closed and is now a cafe called "Cafe Tien". Benny's procedure is the same as previously stated; 150K to the house + 200K to the girl. The girl did a great job. However since the limited number of girls working and quality plus only one hot toc running in that vicinity, I would suggest you go elsewhere.

After I went to a German restaurant and had dinner. Then walked along Hai Ba Trung street. They are open however I wasn't in the mood to partake as I was a sweaty pig. But the places are in full swing and many girls were milling around number 59 (I think).

Went back to my hotel (Hoang Hai Lai 2) and the bellmen are real chummy with me. I tip them well so they want to keep it going. As I walked into reception there was a group of Asians with some Viet girls (working girls for sure) and were promptly stopped by reception. Here's the rub, the hotel has no problem with you bringing girls in, however you will need to pay 15USD and sign a guarantee. I emailed the office beforehand and they replied just how I typed it.

After that commotion, I went into the elevator and the bellman followed suit. He then asked me if I wanted some company for ST. I was naturally curious and he offered million for ST. The girl came up and she was cute. A bit pudgy but I thought what the heck. She was a fish in bed and kept on saying quicker, fuck me (No kissing, no BBBJ). I wasn't impressed as you would imagine. Did the deed and tipped her only 100k. She wasn't happy but I told her her performance was less than desired. Funny thing though, I noticed she was wearing an engagement ring on her wedding finger. After she left the bellman that organised it came up to check and I told him she was no good. He was VERY apologetic and guaranteed that next one he will get me a great girl. I tipped him 200k and said it would have been more if she was better (got to show them some carrot and stick).

So all in all, Benny's is meh but still worth a gander if only to cross off the mongering bucket list. The hotel I mentioned above is more than accommodating as they are the ones supplying.

Anyway, that is it for the moment. If I do monger again I will report back.

Catnip

[Tiger 888]

Wow omniscient Rick Rock doesn't know LHS, means Left Hand Side. The wonders never cease, FYI RHS means Right Hand Side.

Wow, now you can be proud of having known something you disclose! And it's not a secret either.

[MutantChicken]

Where is LHS? Looked over the map several times and can't find a street with those initials anywhere around HBT.

Wow omniscient Rick Rock doesn't know LHS, means Left Hand Side. The wonders never cease, FYI RHS means Right Hand Side.