Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Hardlock1]

Sorry I know this post isn't relevant to Saigon but the "other areas" postings seems to get few visitors so thought I'd try my lucj here. I have RTFF but not finding much joy for info on Hue. Can anyone offer any insight into massage or BJ places that may exisit?

Thanks,

Krum

Nah, not much in Hue. Even the massage places don't like giving even HJ, much less any more. Hue is the desert of mongering. Sorry, mate, that's just how it is.

H is out

[Tiger 888]

Is there any special areas or bars, or is it only to ask "anyone"?

BTW. What is the best place for newcomers?

English is hardly undestood. I suggest to have your desire written on a cardboard in Vietnamese, hang it around your neck near the market and see who will approach you.

[Zerosei]

Hey just shoot me an email, I'll grab a beer, Saigon is as dangerous as you let it be. Don't make your self a target, don't wear expensive jewelery, buy a cheap phone you don't mind getting stolen, keep the majority of your cash separate from your wallet, it is safe to rent a bike, from the right people, cheaper bikes are the clutch bikes, but automatics are easier in traffic if your not used to driving here. If you find a good xe om driver stick with him. Make copies of your passport and visa, carry a set with you.

I am trying to send to you an email but seems I cannot, don't know why. Would be great have a beer together!

Cheers

[Krum Lov]

Sorry I know this post isn't relevant to Saigon but the "other areas" postings seems to get few visitors so thought I'd try my lucj here. I have RTFF but not finding much joy for info on Hue. Can anyone offer any insight into massage or BJ places that may exisit?

Thanks,

Krum.

[AdHome01]

Is there any special areas or bars, or is it only to ask "anyone"?

Yes, just ask "anyone". The market or any busy street will do. It may take some time but eventually you'll find someone.

[Incel]

It is good that you yourself are going to HCMC soon. To answer your question, YES, the ANAL arena is among Viets.

JD

Is there any special areas or bars, or is it only to ask "anyone"?

BTW. What is the best place for newcomers?

[Johndao]

I am myself going to HCMC soon and want to know how the ANAL arena is among Viets?

It is good that you yourself are going to HCMC soon. To answer your question, YES, the ANAL arena is among Viets.

JD

[Incel]

I am myself going to HCMC soon and want to know how the ANAL arena is among Viets?

[Muse Fan]

This is defintely the very informative specially for newbie in vietnam.

I will be in HCM next week for a 3 days 2 night and shall stay either in Continental or Majestic. Is these bars located near those hotels? Although not my first time to vietnam but still newbie in this field at that country. So need more info from you guys. I have RTFF but still not much able to organized the full info. I also wonder the massage parlours that JD mentoned are also located near to my hotels?

Cheers,

MD

If it's continental hotel in district one, you will find that a lot of those bars are within walking distance such as smiley's (yellow and green) , bin bin. 91 bar, etc. Just use google maps and you'll see it's easy to figure out once you start walking around and know the exact addresses.

This area is much more pricier than other areas in terms of sex services and pretty much anything else for that matter, so I believe that the massage places JD mentions are nowhere near there, or at least I haven't come across any info regarding this area from reading his posts. However, there are definitely some massage establishments that will cater to your needs if you just walk around and look for the signs. But I have no idea what the prices are for those or exactly how far you can go. You might notice some touts outside sitting around talking, and waiting for a possible client to walk by.

Hopefully someone else can help you with whatever other info you need.

[Macho Dik]

This is a guide to the "billiard bars" in District 1. They are all located in a fairly small area downtown. These bars are very simple and straightforward: only girls who are "working" are in the bar. Once inside you are expected to pick a girl to sit with, and you can also have some fun with her there if you like. All the girls can be taken out.

The Bars

Have fun.

This is defintely the very informative specially for newbie in vietnam.

I will be in HCM next week for a 3 days 2 night and shall stay either in Continental or Majestic. Is these bars located near those hotels? Although not my first time to vietnam but still newbie in this field at that country. So need more info from you guys. I have RTFF but still not much able to organized the full info. I also wonder the massage parlours that JD mentoned are also located near to my hotels? I understand that those hotels I may be staying at will not be a GF hotel and since I am coming with a colleaque of which I don't. Want to expose my after work activities, so if I went to those bars, can I do my deeds over there? Based on the info, I need to barfine or sort of that in temrs of 6 lady's drinks at around vn300, 000. So should I also need to look for a ST room or perhaps there is an in house ST room. Lastly, how much should I pay to the girls for the FS? In Bangkok, as it is more tourist oriented, so tendency of rip off in bars are much lesser than what I may expects in HCM, vietnam. Right? Or perhaps there is a more decend bars (I don't. Know if I use the proper term. In vietnam if there is any).

Cheers,

MD

[Expatriot]

Hello, all,

Went to Thien Loc at 23 hai Bung Trung yesterday at 5pm, place was full of girls, no one else in sight, more to pick from. I picked out to girls decent looking with no visible Saigon belly. Did the usual ordered 333 beer@40k per beer (remind me to bargain next time) Shot some pool, I'm not a bad shooter but these girls are sharks, I think they lost on purpose, got some titty flash, then got asked to go upstairs for FS, I mentioned why not take both up and have a threesome, they were cool with got both girls for 2 million, little pricey, but who gets a chance at a threesome. One girl was into doing greek, which is rare here so I took advantage of it while the iron was hot. Great time had by all, I'll go back, but for me after 8pm it gets pricier, supply vs demand.

[Expatriot]

Hey guys,

So I hope you liked my last report, also my first.

I would like to ask if there are any other ways to get a FS in town?

I mean a billiard bar is a nice place to pick up a girl but the bar charge can be off putting and I'd like to experience something new. Perhaps something a little cheaper too. Perhaps the 600-800 mark.

I'm not so keen on going with freelancers and would like to go somewhere to choose a girl I like.

I searched and haven't been able to find anything recent and conclusive on FSMP.

Please note this is a request for FS. I haven't tried out the hot toc places on DBP and NPK yet. But I have been to a massage at Vien Dong.

I apologise if what I'm looking for has already been addressed. I just haven't been able to find it. If it has already been addressed I'd appreciate it if you could link it to me or point me in the right direction.

Look for my post on FS near the airport cost 620k all inclusive

[Akatsukii]

Hey guys,

So I hope you liked my last report, also my first.

I would like to ask if there are any other ways to get a FS in town?

I mean a billiard bar is a nice place to pick up a girl but the bar charge can be off putting and I'd like to experience something new. Perhaps something a little cheaper too. Perhaps the 600-800 mark.

I'm not so keen on going with freelancers and would like to go somewhere to choose a girl I like.

I searched and haven't been able to find anything recent and conclusive on FSMP.

Please note this is a request for FS. I haven't tried out the hot toc places on DBP and NPK yet. But I have been to a massage at Vien Dong.

I apologise if what I'm looking for has already been addressed. I just haven't been able to find it. If it has already been addressed I'd appreciate it if you could link it to me or point me in the right direction.

[Akatsukii]

Hi guys,

So I've been living in HCMC since September 09 and only went for my first mongering activity last week on reading Wendella's great post on Billiard bars.

I decided to check out Bin Bin. As I walked past the bar and looked in its direction the bar's doors immediately opened up revealing 3-4 girls in short red dresses. I asked the guy sitting outside how much for a beer, to which he responded "2 dollars". I countered with "no. 30, 000 dong" and he said ok. I clarified with him that lady drinks were 50, 000 each.

I proceeded inside and headed upstairs to the room with the pool table and picked up a cute 19 yo called Thuy from the line up of girls. As soon as I chose her she immediately wrapper her arms around me and lightly started pecking me on the cheek.

We started playing a game of pool when she made the offer. If I win then she will strip, and if she wins then I will give her 50, 000. I joked with her and said if she wins then I'll strip for her. To my surprise she laughed and said "ok". So I won the game and she stripped for me and got me into a long DFK session. By long I mean about 5 minutes as I was constantly looking over my shoulders because attached to the room we were in was a kitchen and locker room where the girls constantly come in and out. Her body was about a 6. Her tits were A but they looked like they used to be a B or C. Imagine you inflate a balloon and then left it there for 2 weeks. Yeh wrinkly and deflated. Anyway she had a 9/10 attitude.

Anyway so she made an offer to back to my hotel. She quoted me 1. 2m which I eventually managed to get down to 1m. The mama said to take her I would have to pay 400k which I refused and countered with the 200k I had been advised on this forum. After an exchange of a few words we settled on 200k.

On the way out, the mama said that they had a car and driver to take me back to my hotel free of charge. I wasn't too sure about this but my girl (who was very cute and spoke pre-intermediate level English) assured me that it was safe. We got into the car and the driver asked me where my hotel was. I didn't feel like taking the girl back to mine so I said I wanted to go to mini hotel. He said ok and off we went.

When we got to the hotel we were greeted by a guy who said 400k for the room. I negotiated. Didn't work.

Went up to the room and had the text book shower and strip down.

She gave me a BBBJ for a good 5 minutes then on came the rubber jimmy.

To my surprise for such a small girl her minge was loose. Very loose. So much so that after an hour of me pumping away I was unable to come. I asked and she refused a BJ at this point. Eventually I had to have her give me a HJ to finish. She did mention to me that she was popular and had a lot of customers, maybe that's why her minge was so loose. (and before any funny comments about the size of my schlong. I definitely don't have a schlort. I'm average. So she's definitely looose)

Anyway kissed her goodbye. She asked what I was doing the next day and if I wanted to meet her. I said I was busy with work and will call her when I'm free.

Overall she's a nice girl with a nice attitude and very cute. Too bad her fanny is huge.

Name: Thuy.

Age: 19.

Looks: 8.

Body: 6.

Attitude: 9.

WIR: 50/50

[Expatriot]

This is a guide to the "billiard bars" in District 1. They are all located in a fairly small area downtown. These bars are very simple and straightforward: only girls who are "working" are in the bar. Once inside you are expected to pick a girl to sit with, and you can also have some fun with her there if you like. All the girls can be taken out.

The Bars

There's a star rating (* * *) for each bar. Remember, your own taste may be different. In the best bars (three *'s and above) you can usually find some very attractive girls, often with a difficult choice of which girl you like best. In most bars (* * to * * ½) , there is still a chance of finding a hot girl, but less likely than in those rated * * * and above. In the bars at * ½ and under, you will be lucky if a very cute one is there, and these places usually have mostly less attractive or older girls (for example, it would be rare that 49 Dong Khoi has any Girls who could get hired at 91 Hai Ba Trung). But if you visited every bar in one evening, you almost surely would find one pleasant surprise in one of the lesser rated bars.

Many of the names of these bars are just a number, which is their address, so for those only their address is listed.

HAI BA TRUNG AREA

35 Hai Ba Trung * * Small relaxing bar with just a few girls, usually average to slightly above avg. In quality. A balcony level with a pool table where you can get to know the girl better.

49 Hai Ba Trung * * ½ Fairly large bar, relaxed, long and narrow with a back room, which has a 2nd pool table and where things can be quite cozy. Girls are usually more plentiful and in general a bit cuter than at 35.

51 Hai Ba Trung * * * A bit smaller than 49, but just as relaxed. Better than average girl selection and quality (more so than 49, in my opinion). This one seems to get new girls more often than most, and the occassional gorgeous one. They also have 2 pool tables, one in back a step down and another up on balcony level.

91 Hai Ba Trung * * * ½ This bar is the biggest and has the most girls, and they tend to be prettiest in general, also younger and taller. It is the one bar where things tend to be least cozy, and the girls more full of themselves (they're pretty and know it) but if your preference is looks over service, this is the one to visit. This would get 4 stars if girls there were as friendly as in other bars. Not relaxing.

2 Sisters * * 44 Dong Du. (formerly Saigon NY) Small bar near the corner of Dong Du and Hai Ba Trung, actually off HBT street. It has more of a social and fun vibe than most bars, but girls are slightly below average in general. They're nicer than ones in most of the bars though. Some girls here wear ao dais, which seems to be their code for "not available". There is a pool table upstairs, though I'm not sure how relaxed it is up there.

Trai Tao (Apple) * 13 Dong Du. Across the street from Saigon NY on Dong Du just near corner of HBT. Small bar with and mainly average girls, from what I could see. Honestly I haven't checked this one out very well. Almost surely relaxing.

Thien Loc * * 23 Hai Ba Trung. At the corner of Hai Ba Trung and Mac Thi Buoi. One billiard table, the whole bar is just one room one level. This one recently reopened, but was always one of the most active bars in terms of entertainment. Might have 1 or 2 cuties with around 6 more ordinary ones.

29 Mac Thi Buoi ½ Very small new bar down the end of an alley on Mac Thi Buoi (not to be confused with the much better 29 Dong Khoi). The alley is very near the restaurant called Juice. It has one quite cute girl who is the boss's girlfriend and isn't allowed to sit with customers, plus a small group of other girls who are not attractive. Probably relaxing.

DONG KHOI STREET

29 Dong Khoi * * ½ On the last block before the Majestic Hotel (near the river). It has 2 levels and about a dozen girls, but in terms of looks they're below average overall, except for the occassional few new ones. It is the one bar of all of these that offers by far the best customer service. Anything goes here. If you are lucky enough to spot a stunning girl here, this place can be heaven. There are couches upstairs and also a very small private room in the back. Relaxing and then some.

49 Dong Khoi 0 stars A sad little bar way in the back down a long narrow hallway and upstairs. The girls are really not very pretty in this one. Seems to be designed to lure in unsuspecting tourists who don't know what other options are nearby. I prefer not to think about how relaxed the atmosphere is here, but it almost surely is. If you noticed the lack of stars above, that was intentional.

THAI VAN LUNG / THI SACH AREA

Smiley Bar * * 8A / 7D2 Thai Van Lung. Right at the intersection of Cao Ba Quat. Big bar, quite a few girls but choices are bit below average in quality. Upstairs they have rooms with pool tables. Things get much more entertaining and relaxing upstairs.

Chieu Thuy * 40 Thai Van Lung. On Thai Van Lung near the corner of Ly Tu Truong, at the top of the "hill." Selection and quality of girls here is distinctly below average. Pool table in front and sofas in back.

Vua Trai Dua (Coconut) *½ 15B Thi Sach. On the next parallel street over (Thi Sach) as you head back toward Hai Ba Trung. This is the the same street Apocalypse Now is located on, but at the opposite end near Le Thanh Ton. Girls here seem very average, and it's a smaller bar.

Momo bar 15C Thi Sach. New small bar next to Vua Trai Dua that I have not been to yet.

Little Princess 5E Nguyen Sieu. New, small bar on the side street opposite 91 Hai Ba Trung. I have not tried this one out yet.

LE THANH TON AREA

Quan Nho * * * 13 Le Thanh Ton. A very small bar with just around 6 girls. Sofas upstairs (3 levels total) to spend time with your girl. Atnosphere more upscale than the rest of these bars. No billiards tables. They tend to get a higher level of talent in their small lineup. Quite relaxing atmosphere upstairs.

Bin Bin * * * 13 Le Thanh Ton. Just across the alley from Quan Nho. This bar has the second most girls and second prettiest overall after 91. Quality of the girls here is quite good overall, sometimes excellent, and attitude and willingness usually quite good too. It has an upstairs for further entertainment. Relaxation status uncertain.

How It Works

After you take a seat, normally one girl will soon approach you. Each girl is in queue to be the one who first approaches a new customer. The problem with this system (for us) is that the girl who greets you is almost never the one you want. In that case, just let the bartender know so that girl after girl doesn't approach you like this. If you prefer no girl, you can just tell the bartender you only want to have a drink but no girl. If you want a chance to have your drink while discreetly checking out the girls first before deciding, you can tell the bartender you want to wait first before choosing. In some bars they will then ask you if you want to see the girls line up for you to choose from, and they will turn up the lights so you can actually see the girls. (91 and Bin Bin typically do this) If they don't immediately offer this, you could request to see them this way.

Once you are sitting with a girl, after 2-3 lady drinks normally the girl will ask if you want to do more with her later, namely to go visit your hotel together. Some may also like to do as much as they can to get you feeling relaxed right there in the bar, which is allowed in some of these bars (but not all). If you only want to talk / grope / hug / kiss / etc. A bit at the bar, that's also fine. You must try to sense what the girl is willing to do, or else let her lead the way and show you.

These bars are perfect if you prefer to go out alone and hope to meet a girl you can be sure is ready to go, without any distractions or risks (such as: she is not that kind of girl-all these girls are that kind; the place is too crowded; the place is so loud you can't have conversation; etc.) Also, these bars are all in comfortable walking distance of each other. If you don't like what a bar has to offer, you can try the next one that is only a few steps away. If you prefer to visit one of these bars with friends, they can put your group in a private room with a low table where everyone sits on cushions. These rooms can also be used even if you are solo. You can have fun with your girl right there in the bar, or else more fun at your hotel. There are different degrees of fun allowed at the different bars. Some actually allow you to do anything, and I mean anything, right in the bar. But in most you can only go to a certain point, and only when you and your girl are hidden somewhere such as in a balcony level or back room.

About prices, the price for a beer is 30, 000 (maybe still 25, 000 in some) and 50, 000 for a 'lady drink. ' (one notable exception: Quan Nho charges 50, 000 for a beer but also 50, 000 for a lady drink). In any bar, your girl will keep asking for another drink whenever she finishes one, that's standard. Don't become upset. To take a girl out, you have to buy her 5 or 6 drinks first, but normally those just get added to your bill, even if she doesn't really drink them. It's really just a barfine. For example, if you had 2 beers and she had 2 lady drinks, and you decide to take her out, they would charge you for the drinks that the 2 of you really drank (60, 000 for your 2 beers plus 100, 000 for her 2 drinks: which equals 160, 000 total) PLUS an additional (and imaginary) 4 lady drinks (200, 000) , so your total bar bill would be 360, 000. In other words, the barfine is 300, 000. And now the 2 of you are free to enjoy your evening together. The number of total drinks you must buy also depends a little on your negotiation skills, and some bars will ask for more lady drinks. As for the girl's payment, they tend to ask for 1 million for 2 hrs or so these days, but can occassionally be bargained down to as low as 800, 000.

If the bar tries to charge you a higher price for each beer or drink, tell them you were just here last week and paid only 30, 000 for each beer and 50, 000 for each lady drink-usually the bartender will play it safe and retreat to the normal price. If the bartender ever puts things like nuts or chewing gum in front of you and your girl, just have the bartender take them away. It's only a tactic to pad the bill at the end-they charge far more than those things really cost. Finally, if you want to leave the bar and not take your girl, then you should at least give her a tip. Standard tip these days is about 100, 000. If the girl's attitude was not very good, then a bit less is ok. They tend to feel insulted if it's 50, 000 or lower. If her attitude was good, pay higher accordingly. To make a good impression on a girl I want to see again, I would leave her a tip of 150, 000, or even 200, 000 for one who's very special. If you leave no tip, there's a good chance all the girls there would discuss it and brand you a "cheap charlie" after that.

If you go to a place and disagree with my rating, remember that the quality in the bars fluctuates. Also, if you get there late at night or after a big group of customers has arrived together, the choices left over may be few. 7pm seems to be a peak time when you can expect almost all the girls who work there to be present and available.

Have fun

OK, I went to Quan Nho, first impressions, blacked out, and partialy frosted front door is a good sign, went in the bar area downstairs is about the size of a bathroom. The mamasan called the girl down, down came a stunner with her dress pulled above the bearded mussel, good, sit down bought her a lady drink I got ba, ba, ba bia asked how much 100k, bad sign. Girl grabs the package, shove my hand down her snatch, good, the whispers we go upstairs for a hummer 1 mil, sign to get the fuck out, I negotiate, she won't budge says house gets 400k, I called bullshit, got the bill, girl said you give me 500k I keep change for drink, yeah right! I paid mamasan the 100k gave her fifty for the blue balls, left, never will go back. P. S. The parking wondered why I left so soon I told him girl too much, he said better to go to Benny's.