Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Paul C]

I'll be in town from May 10-16.

If anyone's down to meet, send me a PM.

I'm an Asian-American in my mid 20s.

[Milkweed]

Hi there everyone, I am new to this board, however I am living in HCMC for about 4 years now and know my way around the non-pro scene. Actually I live in the far north of HCMC, District 12, it is in no comparison to any girls you find in the city.

Well, I just wonder, are you guys simply only interested to pay girls for sex or do some of you actually prefer to meet young beautiful and lovely girls on the street?

Ok, don't get me wrong, I know how it is when you get to a new country or perhaps simply are on vacation here. I am calling out to some guys in my age range (30. 35) who perhaps like to go on a special tour around the countryside. I am doing it often and you will explore a complete new world. I know my way around and more or less do speak Vietnamese. If it sounds like an invitation for a paid tour, sorry, no, it isn't. I am simply a guy who is tired of going around alone and is willing to show nice opportunities around here. The clock is ticking differently here.

Hi Timlooblue,

I'm interested in the tour. Lets get a drink sometime.

I've been living here for about 7 months. I'm in my 30s.

[Johndao]

Regarding the last few previous postings, I would tend to agree with Wendella and Mash Potato.

Gossip is one of the biggest and more well established clubs in HCMC. A share was given to a "Jack" as an incentive to facilitate the licensing process. Things in there were getting too hot (Most popular disco to pick up) in there till even they had to be to be shut for 3 months by the authorities.

The disputes at these places are not so much about the nature of the business itself. They are internecine (characterized by struggle within a group, usually applied to an ethnic or familial relationship; conflict within a group or organization) disputes about money and control.

Think of the vast profits, think of the levels of control: Ward or street level, District level, City level, National level.

[Newbie]

Regarding the last few previous postings, I would tend to agree with Wendella and Mash Potato.

Gossip is one of the biggest and more well established clubs in HCMC. A share was given to a "Jack" as an incentive to facilitate the licensing process. Things in there were getting too hot (Most popular disco to pick up) in there till even they had to be to be shut for 3 months by the authorities.

[Wendella]

I don't mean to come across as harsh or slamming in some of my recent posts. Sorry if I did. I realize people come here to talk openly, whether its to share opinions or facts -- and that can sometimes get a bit dicey, especially when the fact is based on a feeling rather than solid evidence, so something like a mixture of opinion and fact. It's understandable, and hard to resist posting about if you have a strong gut feeling. It's just that gut feelings can be wrong. And yes they can be right too.

I just wanted to set the record straight so people don't have the wrong ideas about some of these things. Just some recent postings struck me as wrong info being shared.

[Wendella]

Not sure if it is 'that' obvious. If you are referring to the local Jacks then I'd disagree, cause HBT bars do get raided/inspected. When you see the girls in overcoats once in a while, then you know there is a shakedown.

Shady business are never 'owned' by the Jacks, they just make sure that all is kosher.

Right. There are raids there, plenty. I've been present for a few. The bars have guys outside watching out for them all the time they're open. If there's one thing that's obvious, it's that they're not owned by the local... um... Jacks.

[Mash Potatoes]

Guys, I think it should be obvious to everyone who 'owns' or 'runs' the HBT bars. No, there is no possibility of raids there.

Not sure if it is 'that' obvious. If you are referring to the local Jacks then I'd disagree, cause HBT bars do get raided/inspected. When you see the girls in overcoats once in a while, then you know there is a shakedown.

Shady business are never 'owned' by the Jacks, they just make sure that all is kosher.

[Wendella]

Guys, I think it should be obvious to everyone who 'owns' or 'runs' the HBT bars. No, there is no possibility of raids there.
JD

I'm not sure I'd agree it's obvious who owns or runs those places. Do you think you know who does?

[Johndao]

This may be due to the fact there are 2 major Public Holidays coming up soon. 30th April / Victory Day and 1st May / Labour Day. During these times, the possibilities of raids are very very much higher. Most places will operate but they will be very guarded. These activities always happen close to Major Public Holidays.

Guys, I think it should be obvious to everyone who 'owns' or 'runs' the HBT bars. No, there is no possibility of raids there.

JD

[Ian Oxon]

Might be dreaming but ideally would like to occasionally go somewhere to have a drink and listen to some live music, maybe have a chat with the sexy girl of choice and score a date later if it looks like it could be fun. I'm interested in what you think the Viet Kieus, or even if they are Viet Kieus, are after, assuming that you're not typical but would have an insight. Seems like a lot of big noting. Buying the overpriced bottle of whisky, fruit platters etc. As I mentioned before it looks like they're not big tippers. If the girl is only going to make a couple hundred k per night with all the effort of dressing up, make up etc and having to put up with sitting next to someone they wouldn't talk to in the real world, then hardly seems a worth while occupation.

I like to go to 17 Saloon on Pham Ngu Lao. Great Philippino band, good mix of expats and locals. Reasonably priced drinks and always a table of Vietnamese cuties getting hammered. Certainly a few freelancers there giving you the eye.

[Wendella]

Regarding my previous post asking why some bars were closed or near empty. It was a combination of factors:

1. As Newbie suggested, the holidays have turned up the heat on these places, and that explains why fewer were in some bars

2. The owner of 3 of the bars had a wedding, so those 3 were closed until late in the evening, opening at 9 or 10. I learned this from one of the ones at 91 a few nights later when it was open again at its normal time.

I cruised past DBL last week -- I have to say my first impression is very mixed. Might go look again more closely but I wasn't seeing much that was too tempting.

There's a certain hotel in that area that I'm pretty sure has girls who are available for massage in a room plus extras, and those extras might be very special. If anyone is interested, PM me and I'll forward the details.

[AdHome01]

Hi there everyone, I am new to this board, however I am living in HCMC for about 4 years now and know my way around the non-pro scene. Actually I live in the far north of HCMC, District 12, it is in no comparison to any girls you find in the city.

Well, I just wonder, are you guys simply only interested to pay girls for sex or do some of you actually prefer to meet young beautiful and lovely girls on the street?

Ok, don't get me wrong, I know how it is when you get to a new country or perhaps simply are on vacation here. I am calling out to some guys in my age range (30. 35) who perhaps like to go on a special tour around the countryside. I am doing it often and you will explore a complete new world. I know my way around and more or less do speak Vietnamese. If it sounds like an invitation for a paid tour, sorry, no, it isn't. I am simply a guy who is tired of going around alone and is willing to show nice opportunities around here. The clock is ticking differently here.

Timlooblue, tried to pm you but your account doesn't accept pm's. How can someone get in touch with you?

[Wendella]

While individual standards might vary, tips of 100,000 to the girl are considered normal in places like these for reasonably good service and company.

To leave no tip at all, they'd be thinking, "why did I have to get stuck with this loser." I'm not sure this is the image you want to be aiming for.

[Johndao]

Buying the overpriced bottle of whiskey, fruit platters etc. As I mentioned before it looks like they're not big tippers. If the girl is only going to make a couple hundred k per night with all the effort of dressing up, make up etc and having to put up with sitting next to someone they wouldn't talk to in the real world, then hardly seems a worthwhile occupation.

The girls get commission on the price of the drinks and fruit (especially the drink) so that is the tip.

[Explorerman]

Hey Guys

Though usually I don't have time to try for the GFE on short visits, my trip to HCMC last week gave me a chance. I was staying at the Park Hyatt, so I knew they were tough about bringing in girls.

But I had 'met' a 28 year old online who had seemed very interested in meeting, sent sexy pics, and then asked me to get her something as a present to give her when me met for coffee on Monday. I knew that was a good sign, since all the girls usually ask for a gift if they don't ask for money.

So Monday we meet for coffee, I give her my gift, and we are chatting away. Hit it off. She suggests we go for a walk, so we go outside, holding hands, and she wants to kiss. Finally, she looks at me and says words that every guy dreams of: "I am really horny. Do you think we could go to a hotel? "

HAHA. Cooly saying yes, off we went. Found a short term place and debated all night or short term, went for 4 hours. Wonderful time of sex, two pops, and very hot.

We arrange to meet the next day for dinner at my hotel, thinking maybe we could sneak upstairs from the restaurant to my room at 7 or 8:00. It worked! So she got to spend all night with me at the Park Hyatt on Tuesday. OMG, we f***ed all night. Guys, I am in my 40s. I don't think I ever came 5 times in one night, but this girl had me going wild from 8-1:00am and then again at 6:00am, and one of the best nights of sex I have ever had.

Yes, kinda worn out for work on Wednesday. Hehehe.

We meet again Wednesday night for dinner and music, then she takes me back to her place, which is nice and better than I expected, so we f*% there for a few hours, then I go home. Great GFE.

Then Thursday, we went out for spa early, then upstairs to my room at Park Hyatt around 8 for a quickie before the security guys throw her out. Sure enough, got a call at 10 asking for her to go.

An amazing week, and now I have my go-to girl in HCMC. And to think, I had almost given up hope!