Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Co Van My]

I can understand the "thrill of the chase" involved in trying to meet gals in bars, hotels, clubs, etc. But I'd like someone who can speak English, be a dinner date, show me around town and explain some of the local ways, and so on..... In most big cities, this would be an Escort. Does anyone know if there are such services in Saigon? Thanks for any info you can pass along.

You can find bar girls and freelancers that easily fit your description. Many of them can slide into your escort description very smoothly, especially those from the higher end places. Finding such a girl on your own, without the services of an "agency" is very easy.

And here's a possibility that I rarely see mentioned on any of the SEA boards. It is very possible to take a Vietnamese massage girl working in the U.S. with you on a trip to Vietnam. I realize that this is like bringing coals to Newcastle, but it has some nice attractions. You get an English speaking companion who shares some of your Western idiosyncracies. You already have established compatibility and comfort levels. She can set you up with some male contacts in Vietnam who can open all the other doors, such as the "no hands" restaurants, for example.

You need to set the ground rules up front. She might even pay her own airfare. You will pick up hotels and meals and some shopping. Make sure she realizes that she'll be sharing your bed. She'll want some time alone to visit her family. You'll want time alone to explore some of the waters on your own. Agree in advance on how much time she'll actually spend with you.

The main attraction for doing this from her point of view is that you provide a perceived security blanket for her at immigration, customs, and day-to-day in Vietnam. This is mostly illusory because Viet kieu don't face much harrassment when they return these days. But the perception still seems to persist among a lot of the girls. They are used to depending on men.

Your presence will also offer her some valuable face because she will have a "rich" American in tow,

This is completely doable. If you frequent AMPs or Vietnamese karaoke restaurants, all you have to do is mention the fact that you will be traveling to Vietnam in the near future. If she doesn't make the offer (and I have had a carload of them), you can broach the subject yourself, prerably in a light-hearted way, just to test the water.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I have to admit that I have never done this myself. I would much rather explore Vietnam totally on my own, but the offers are out there. It's just one more alternative for making your trip a memorable one.

[Chikan]

Obeone, that was a great report and well written! Sounds like a fun place, let us know if you can find it again.

Chikan

[Fw190]

I can understand the "thrill of the chase" involved in trying to meet gals in bars, hotels, clubs, etc. But I'd like someone who can speak English, be a dinner date, show me around town and explain some of the local ways, and so on..... In most big cities, this would be an Escort. Does anyone know if there are such services in Saigon? Thanks for any info you can pass along.

[Csflat]

Hey Obeone,

Great post man.

You got this jedi knight standing at attention. If you find this place agian please keep us inform. I'll be back in VN after the new year. Would really want to check this restuarant out.

Question for you? What was the damage? What city / district and name of the place? 45 minuite north bound or east or west or south?

[Obeone]

I’m getting old, the force is weakening, memory bad - it must be the effect of wasting away too much energy and metachlorian's on pretty asian women. Thank god my trusty oldlight saber still works..haha

The “Handsfree restaurant” is situated in a rather secluded area somewhere on the outskirts of HCM about 45mins from the city centre. Sorry for the poor description but it was my 1st time there. One thing for sure, you won't find it in a tourist map. If not for my local contact, I wouldn't have known such a place exists.

The place looked more like a private villa than a restaurant. Judging from the deco, menu and clientele, it caters for the more prominent affluent locals. Upon arrival you are greeted by the captain with a welcome drink. Then we’re given the menu (my friend did the honors) together with a photo album containing an impressive selection of ladies. We each choose a pair - they will be our waitress/companions for the rest of the evening. We are then ushered into a private dining room that resembles those rooms in a ktv joint. Furnishing is spartan; straw mats, a low dining table with a bowl of sweets (actually later found out they were condoms), folding lacquer changing screen, closet, mirror walls and ceiling, cushions and bathroom.

We were just about to kick off our shoes and make ourselves comfy when our waitress/companions arrived. What a sight… they look even better in the flesh than the pics, wearing sexy lowcut black silk see-through Ao Dai's but without the pants and undergarments. My lightsaber stirred in my pants, had to use the force to calm it down (down boy). After exchanging greetings one of the gurls talks to my friend explaining the rules of the house. Basically they are our women for the rest of the evening to obey, serve and entertain us. During dinner we are not allowed to use our hands to eat (not even knife & fork is allowed) instead they will serve and feed us. BUT our hands and other body parts are free to do anything else just no touching the food. Sucks doesn't it? We pay them to treat us like babies… yeah right! Little did I know that I was to experience the kinkiness of messing food with sex!

One of my girls (I'll call her Y) then gives a bathrobe, accompanies me to the changing screen then helps me undress while the other girl (Z) goes to the bathroom and later emerge with a hot towel and basin of warm water. My friend gets the same treatment from his gurls. I got turned on as Y undressed me, she's probably done this many times before but there was still that element of shyness as she took off my boxers, gazing down pretending not to look at my lightsaber – but her gasp and flushed face gave her away. Y neatly folded and hung up my clothes in the closet. I'm now just wearing a bathrobe covering my birthday suit. As they say just go with the flow… as I lay down on the mat the Y gets busy wiping our face and body with the hot towel. While shes at work my hands casually stroke, grope and knead her body through her black see-through dress. She trembles, sighs and moans in response but continues her cleansing chores. I dip my fingers in her nicely trimmed pussy, it smells so fresh and tastes delicious. The tender loving care I receive soon activates my lightsaber much to the delight of Y. She gives me a wet sloppy deep kiss. I was just about to plan my attack when on Y when Z arrives with drinks and entrée, leads me by the hand towards the dining table. Damn… no pussy yet but as master Yoda would say “those who wait, good things will receive”.

Sit cross-legged at the table, remember “no hands on the food and drink”. Z pours me a glass of wine, facing me sits on my lap and brings the glass to my mouth for a sip - its some kind of local brew. I could feel her bare pussy brushing against my lightsaber thru the fabric. Pointing to the glass and her mouth, I ask her to take a sip. She obeys my command but just before she could gulp it down I pull her closer and give her a DFK. As our tongues entwine I savor the remnants of wine from her mouth. Using the Jedi mind trick, she gets the idea and takes another gulp as we DFK again while she grinds her crotch on my aroused lightsaber. She starts feeding me some sort of soup while my hands start to roam and explore her body. We do our wine sharing act again. Damn… my lightsaber is turning blue by now it needs to release some metachlorians. I point to it and without hesitation she grabs the cushions for me to lay back then starts loosening my robe, licking/sucking my nipples and catbath all the way down to my lightsaber. She grabs it with both hands and marvels at it like an object of worship, gives it tender butterfly kisses while her pussy paints my legs with her juice. Not to be left out I snap my fingers and motion to Y to join in the fun. Y slips her dress off, comes to my side with both hands cupping her tits offers them to me – they’re so soft and succulent. Both Y and Z take turns deeply rimming my ass, sucking my metachlorian laden balls and finally my lightsaber. Damn... I'm craving for some fresh Vietnamese "oysters", instructed Z to get into 69 position for me to savor her delights as she attempts to swallow my lightsaber. Y does the same so I take turns using the Jedi cunnilingus alphabet trick on Z while fingering Y vice-versa, lost count the number of times they climax. I began to feel a disturbance in the force as my two young padawans dedicated ministrations on my lightsaber, balls and asshole began to take effect, finally explode releasing jets and jets of pent up metachlorians. My beautiful padawans gobbled up every last drop of the precious jizz.

After the 3 of us catch our breath, my padawans clean me up ready for dinner. Such a fantastic entrée really built up my appetite for dinner and later desert. I won’t go into the details but let me tell you humping beautiful girls while they feed you and fooling around with food on naked bodies is something that you must experience in a lifetime.

Now back to the quest… this episode happened about a year ago, I’ve since lost touch with my Vietnamese friend who brought me there. I’m planning on making another trip there soon and would really appreciate any info to track down this restaurant. Please excuse the Starwars crap, I just wanted to make the FR funny.

-May the Force be with you-

[ThatsMeWhat]

If anyone knows the name, address and location of this place kindly send a PM. I was brought there by a local, its about 45mins from the city center on the outskirts of town.

What place?

[RatuFreddie]

I like to get some information re this too! And maybe a short report, Obeone?

[Obeone]

If anyone knows the name, address and location of this place kindly send a PM. I was brought there by a local, its about 45mins from the city center on the outskirts of town.

[Hermescali]

I never said that it was my opinion James. It was another person who had been there before. I have no idea if Viet hookers are $50/$100/$1000 for all night. Until I go there I really do not care. From what I have seen of the hundreds of Viet girls in Little Saigon here....they really do not like white guys. There are hundreds of thousands of Viet girls living here in the USA and you never see them with white bfs. So one would suspect that finding a non pro without motives of getting to the USA/Visa scam would be very, very difficult.

People generally like their own kind more than another race. Duh! I do have to say that the girls from South America are generally more friendly to white guys and actually like us over their own in many cases. That does not seem to be true for the Viet girls. They rarely prefer us. Like I said....hundreds of thousands living here in Southern California and quite difficult to see them with a white bf. That is why we use the hookers in Ho Chi Min when Americans go there. It is all about money for them and we know that game well.

Maybe it is a too close circle in Southern california, but I am surprosed to hear this. When I went to Vietnam 4 times in a fiftenn month period in the very early nineties I had no problem in meeting non-pro girls.

Here in Germany I have a vietnamese male friend, owning a restaurant. The waitresses are quite interested in me, but I took out only on so far (but took out two of his chinese waitresses.

But I haven´t been to Vietnam in over five years, so don´t really know

[John05]

There are always chances no matter what race you are. The question is how big is your chance? The longer you stay and know the people the more chance you have to fuck non-pro's. But I find it is hard to believe if you can score a non-pro within 6 months.

So knowing your chance is slim, just go there, to the outskirt of Saigon and look for hookers. If you don't know the language then my recommendation to you is "pay them appropriately" because there is no way on earth you can fuck them with only $10. I can but you can't, period!

I never said that it was my opinion James. It was another person who had been there before. I have no idea if Viet hookers are $50/$100/$1000 for all night. Until I go there I really do not care. From what I have seen of the hundreds of Viet girls in Little Saigon here....they really do not like white guys. There are hundreds of thousands of Viet girls living here in the USA and you never see them with white bfs. So one would suspect that finding a non pro without motives of getting to the USA/Visa scam would be very, very difficult.

People generally like their own kind more than another race. Duh! I do have to say that the girls from South America are generally more friendly to white guys and actually like us over their own in many cases. That does not seem to be true for the Viet girls. They rarely prefer us. Like I said....hundreds of thousands living here in Southern California and quite difficult to see them with a white bf. That is why we use the hookers in Ho Chi Min when Americans go there. It is all about money for them and we know that game well.

[vietkool]

I just landed in SG and found to my disappointment that some of nice bars such as Bar 131 (on Ng Hue) and maybe Number 1 on Le Thanh Ton were gone. These bars are more geared toward Viet Kieu (I am one) and local Vietnamese. Are there similar places open these days? Or where do the VN young/or not so young hang out for the evening ?

Thanks,

Kool

[Saigon5]

I was reading the freebies part of the thread with a certain interest. I am still debating if I like the freebies better than the bar girls or not and I have done so for the last 15 years.

Freebies are possible but with the exeption of 2 freebies, all the ones I received did involve a lot more work, patience and in the end money.

My first freebie was back in 1993 at the time where Apocalyse Now was a small bar with 6 tables. I walked in had a beer and left with the waitress who was as interested as I was to have sex. No money, no strings. The second one was odd. I was sitting at a cafe in Da Nang with a friend. Two girls drove by, stopped and asked us if they could join. The next morning I met the other girl on the street and since her English was better than the one I spent the night with, I asked her what happened. Simple answer, her friend divorced 3 years ago and never goes out. She needed sex and got it.

I will avoid doing a general rule but normally when I started to go out with a regular girl in Viet Nam, it also ended the same way. At first, I would say I am not interested in getting married and having children. I felt that this way, I was clear on my intentions. Time to get them in my room varied from a few days to a few months but the ending was always the same. At one point she realized that I was serious about not getting married and would decide that our relation as no future.

One has to keep in mind that most of the Vietnamese girls have a "mission" to get married and they will do everything to do that. Of course there are always exemptions to the rules and one could get lucky and meet a wealthy single girl that has no interest in getting married and want to have a good time. They are there but in limited number.

One part that is often overlooked is that Vietnamese girls really like drama in their life. The music is sad, all their love songs are sad and they really like this. Is it normal for them to be sad in love. Once in a while they will do something like going out with a white boy, knowing that there is no future but this will provide them the needed sadness. Impossible love is always beautiful and happy people have no stories.

The contradiction is in the word freebie. Mind you that this would not be the first contradiction in Viet Nam. I think that in the end, other than the 2 exemption, the freebies costed me more money than the bar girls. It is not about money but with the notion of freebie. Of course while in Viet Nam one is in the perfect situation to be patient. Go out for dinner and small talk with the regular girl you are trying to get a freebie from and finish the night on Hai Ba Trung street. No problem.

[Silly Puppy]

Mr. Thatsmewhat. While I can score non-pro's by tricking them I've never wanted to do that because I can't lie to them like a lot of Vietkieu's have been doing. I am not assuming you are lying (such as bringing them back to States, etc,all the craps) but this is out of the norm if you know what I mean.

Questions:
1) How do you know they are non-pro's by not being able to speak the language and know the locals?
2) What work did you prepare? Maybe you can teach us some tricks here.
3) There are many Viet pro's who are playing non-pro's to catch innocent Caucasians and Vietkieu. They hang out at chat rooms A LOT. Well, you can catch some of them this way but be careful not to fall into their traps. Even Viet playboys got tricked by them.

I am currently living in the States and probably won't go back until next year. I'll be happy showing you around if we have a chance to meet.

[ThatsMeWhat]

I scored a couple of non-pros on a few of my 3 weeks visits to VN. It does take some prep work over the internet first. Granted it takes a fair amount of effort before hand and its not always a sure thing, but it has worked for me.

I would love to find some of those outskirt girls next time I'm in HCMC. Message me and maybe we can meet for an excursion to the outskirts.

[Silly Puppy]

There are always chances no matter what race you are. The question is how big is your chance? The longer you stay and know the people the more chance you have to fuck non-pro's. But I find it is hard to believe if you can score a non-pro within 6 months.

So knowing your chance is slim, just go there, to the outskirt of Saigon and look for hookers. If you don't know the language then my recommendation to you is "pay them appropriately" because there is no way on earth you can fuck them with only $10. I can but you can't, period!