Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Saigon Sam]

Anybody,

What street is Apocalypse Now nightclub? I'm near the Sheraton, and believe it or not the hotel staff and a couple motorbike drivers didn't know where it is.

I'm also looking for the streets for Rainbow Forest and 119 (Music Room)

Thanks!

Apocalypse Now is on "Thi Sach Street" on the left hand side as you head towards the river. From the Sheraton, turn left as you walk out the doors and go stright until the street ends. The end intersection is Thi Sach Street.

Rain Forest is on Thu Khoa Huan. From the Sheraton, walk down Dong Khoi Street (towards the river) and you should see a Yamaha Motorcycle shop. Its right beside Yamaha.

119 is on Nguyen Hue Street. Also walking distance from the Sheraton. Its near the intersection where the Cathay Pacific office is. Across the street from the Palace Hotel

[Draco]

Anybody,

What street is Apocalypse Now nightclub? I'm near the Sheraton, and believe it or not the hotel staff and a couple motorbike drivers didn't know where it is.

I'm also looking for the streets for Rainbow Forest and 119 (Music Room)

Thanks!

[Asian Rain]

Thanks to Ball 44 and Saigon Sam for the previous posts on SW/motorbike girl areas. I tried both of these areas with good results.

First tried the Independence Palace area at corner of Thi Minh Khai and Tran Cong Chua. First tried this area a little early and didn't observe much action. If you happen to go early on an evening where there is a live performance at the cultural park, people will gather to listen on Thi Minh Khai, so there won't be any girls stopping.

I went back past 10:30pm, strolled slowly in the shadows of the shops on Thi Minh Khai and in less than a minute girls were pulling up on motos to proposition me. They just swarmed in. Oh yeah, go hotel boom-boom. As I noticed it the girls seemed to be in the 22-28yo range and all seemed reasonably pleasant looking. It took a couple girls (ST prices quoted $10-30 range) to find the right girl, and settled on a sweetie who agreed to pics. Off we went to some ST hotel next to Sahara bar. $10 for fan room. Service was uninspired but did the job. The girl had a muff as thick as a jungle. It would take a machete to hack it down. Will post pics to illustrate.

I had another pickup from same location on another visit. I was a little disturbed to be taken to the same hotel next to the Sahara, which made me think that there is some link with the TMK girls. The only thing that pissed me off was that the girl reneged on the promise for pics once in the hotel. I hate when a chica goes back on her word and plays like she didn't understand.

I also strolled the area on Thi Minh Khai entrance to zoo - after 10pm. Same mode of operation as above. Fairly cute girls cruising by on motos to take helpless-looking foreigner to hotel for boom-boom. I thought the best thing is to stand at one of the bus stops up from the zoo entrance, which allows the girls stop on the sidewalk and negotiate in privacy behind the bus stop. It is will-lit at night and there is lots of traffic going by, so a little privacy can be a plus. Didn't actually try these girls, but can verify that the action is buzzing.

The gem of my last trip was a girl I met right across the street from the Sofitel. Returned after meeting at 4:30pm and spotted a cutie just standing across the street. Went up to my room to drop off bag and the girl was still standing at the curb - slightly suspicious. I walked down and across the street and she was talking to a local guy. I just sat down at the bus stop and got out my cell phone. The girl broke off with the local guy and walked up to me. I smiled and she sat down. Bingo. Some small chit-chat and I said "hotel?" She smiled and nodded her head. I went up to the room to get my gear (small backpack with towel, video camera, condoms and lube). We went off to a ST hotel and had a great time - enthusiastic BBBJ and great FS.

Other tibits from the trip:

(1) Apocalypse - stopped in to check out action twice and was disappointed. No unoccupied stunners and remainders were best left alone. Found myself playing more pool and paying for overpriced drinks.

(2) Hai Ba Trung - stopped into a bar on Hai Ba Trung with a business friend. If you are male - alone or otherwise - the doors will be opened as you walk by and the tout/girls will encourage you to go in. Can't remember the name of the bar we tried, but it was closest to the Pomodoro Italian restaurant. Price for beer was VND25k and lady drinks was VND50k. Buying a lady drink earns you the right to feel up your girl - mine had very nice tits (no bra and easy to feel) and a tight ass. After the first round (the girls seem to be trained to drink their drinks in 15min intervals before they pester you for another round), the girls offered to go to hotel. Price quoted was US$50 for ST and $20 for hotel. Both of us were not in the frame of mind to pay that, so we paid and left. The girls will give you their cell phone numbers for direct meetings, which offers some savings potential for later meetings.

(3) Cafe across from Caravelle - spotted a few SWs at the little park in front of the cafe across from the Caravelle hotel. The quality seemed a bit iffy, so I didn't bother to check out the details.

That's it for now. Enjoy HCMC!

[Whisper1]

FYI,

The address of Cat Dang Cafe is 917 Tran Hung Dao. It's located on the left hand side if you are traveling from District 1.

Hi fellow mongers,

3 years ago I was in HCMC and went to one of the Cat Dang Cafes (one of them on Tran Hung Dao Street). Very nice location, good music and entertainment programm.
Many young delicious girls working there. And some are even asking my phone number. But never tried them.

Did one of you have experience with the workers in these cafes? Are they professionals?

Thanks in advance,

Rgds,

Sixty

[Sixty]

Hi fellow mongers,

3 years ago I was in HCMC and went to one of the Cat Dang Cafes (one of them on Tran Hung Dao Street). Very nice location, good music and entertainment programm.
Many young delicious girls working there. And some are even asking my phone number. But never tried them.

Did one of you have experience with the workers in these cafes? Are they professionals?

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

Sixty

[Peter43]

Saigon is really great. Absolutly beauitiful girls, who like to have fun.

There several bars around the Sheraton in Dong Khoi area. In the most bars, the girls try hard to make you pay drinks for them. Ladydrink is mostly about 50000 dong ca. $ 4. Vietnam girls are really not shy, so I was shocked what the girls allready allow their custumers to do with them in the bar. In the end for me it was a little to hard action in these bars and I didn t like to pay many drinks, only for play with girls boobs or pussy in public.

A nice bar to drink you can find, when you leave the Sheraton, turn left and cross the street. The name of the bar was like Ho Jo. Normally 6-8 girls working there. There is not the same hardcore action as in several other bars in this area, but the girls are less pushing the customers for drinks and the bar has a nice atmosphere.

For me a great pic up places are the discotheques like Rainbow Forest or 119(Musicroom). There are a lot of prostitutes hanging around in these places. The girls like to drink and have fun.

I went with one of my friends to 119. Normally we order a bottle of Remy Martin and then it doesn t take long until you have some ladys to drink with you.

One night we took two of them to our hotel. since the disco closed this evening allready at 1 p.m. We decided to have some beers in my room. 5 minutes after arriving my girl asked, if we can shower together. What she did with me under shower was incredible. She blowed like crazy and I was surprised in how many position you can do it in such a small bathroom. I really felt like in a porn movie. After half an hour we went back to the room, where my buddy with his girl were still drinking. I asked my buddy if he can leave with his girl now, since we need the bed to finish something what allready started in the bathroom. He smiled, since they sure heard, that we did something more than take a shower in the bathroom. After they left we finished this session in the bed. I payed her 800000 dong she was happy and left.

Two hours later the girl fromm my buddy knocked at my door, complaining that he refused to have sex with her. In fact my friend don t like so much to fuck around in the world, he only wanted a massage and payed 500000 dong for this. I told her 500000 dong for a massage isn't that bad, but she complained that her friend get 800000 dong from me. My girl allready gave her this massage by sms. I told her, that when we have sex together I will pay her the difference of 300000 dong. I was only kidding, but she took this serious. so porn movie part 2 started. I couldn't belive she really accepted this. But she was absolutly horny. She told me she didn't had a cock since two weeks now and she really need it. Her pussy was allready wet when I put my finger inside. She gave an icredible blow job. Every time when her mouth was full of spittle (and she had a lot of spittle). She took my cock out of her mouth and spit on the floor. This happened 3 times and I was really impresed by this performence. After we finished, I gave her the 300000 dong and she went away. The next morning I told my buddy what happened in the night. He confirmed that he didn't have sex with her but he gave her 700000 instead of, how she told me 500000.

I asked myself should I be angry now :-)) If she wouldn't have lied to me and I knew this, I maybe could have negotiate her down to 100000 dong, :-))

Hannover,

To pay 500000 vnd is way to much for a massage. The best massage in town is 76 Pasteur. The girls are great and it costs 60000 vnd per hour. Plus you can date the girls after work. The going rate for a really nice girl from any bar is 500000-700000 for all night.

[Case Study]

I'm going to save all you guys the trouble and tell Hannover that he paid a hefty sum for these girls. I wouldnt have given more than 100,000 for a massage. The sex marathon you describe however, was probably well worth the 800,000.

There, I beat the rest of you to it, so now nobody else can bash on Hannover.

[Hannover]

Saigon is really great. Absolutly beauitiful girls, who like to have fun.

There several bars around the Sheraton in Dong Khoi area. In the most bars, the girls try hard to make you pay drinks for them. Ladydrink is mostly about 50000 dong ca. $ 4. Vietnam girls are really not shy, so I was shocked what the girls allready allow their custumers to do with them in the bar. In the end for me it was a little to hard action in these bars and I didn t like to pay many drinks, only for play with girls boobs or pussy in public.

A nice bar to drink you can find, when you leave the Sheraton, turn left and cross the street. The name of the bar was like Ho Jo. Normally 6-8 girls working there. There is not the same hardcore action as in several other bars in this area, but the girls are less pushing the customers for drinks and the bar has a nice atmosphere.

For me a great pic up places are the discotheques like Rainbow Forest or 119(Musicroom). There are a lot of prostitutes hanging around in these places. The girls like to drink and have fun.

I went with one of my friends to 119. Normally we order a bottle of Remy Martin and then it doesn t take long until you have some ladys to drink with you.

One night we took two of them to our hotel. since the disco closed this evening allready at 1 p.m. We decided to have some beers in my room. 5 minutes after arriving my girl asked, if we can shower together. What she did with me under shower was incredible. She blowed like crazy and I was surprised in how many position you can do it in such a small bathroom. I really felt like in a porn movie. After half an hour we went back to the room, where my buddy with his girl were still drinking. I asked my buddy if he can leave with his girl now, since we need the bed to finish something what allready started in the bathroom. He smiled, since they sure heard, that we did something more than take a shower in the bathroom. After they left we finished this session in the bed. I payed her 800000 dong she was happy and left.

Two hours later the girl fromm my buddy knocked at my door, complaining that he refused to have sex with her. In fact my friend don t like so much to fuck around in the world, he only wanted a massage and payed 500000 dong for this. I told her 500000 dong for a massage isn't that bad, but she complained that her friend get 800000 dong from me. My girl allready gave her this massage by sms. I told her, that when we have sex together I will pay her the difference of 300000 dong. I was only kidding, but she took this serious. so porn movie part 2 started. I couldn't belive she really accepted this. But she was absolutly horny. She told me she didn't had a cock since two weeks now and she really need it. Her pussy was allready wet when I put my finger inside. She gave an icredible blow job. Every time when her mouth was full of spittle (and she had a lot of spittle). She took my cock out of her mouth and spit on the floor. This happened 3 times and I was really impresed by this performence. After we finished, I gave her the 300000 dong and she went away. The next morning I told my buddy what happened in the night. He confirmed that he didn't have sex with her but he gave her 700000 instead of, how she told me 500000.

I asked myself should I be angry now :-)) If she wouldn't have lied to me and I knew this, I maybe could have negotiate her down to 100000 dong, :-))

[Case Study]

Just book my flight today for the end of the month trip to VN. I havent been there since last summer and it will be a welcomed vacation. Just came back in to seek out new info on where the fun is located.

Hopefully not to many changes have taken place, Apocalypse will always be ....well Apocalypse. Sahara seems like an interesting place, if anyone have recent insights please let everyone in.

Girls will steal your stuff. Their pimps will try to steal your shit as well.
If i pay 50$ or more she better look like salma hayek (minus the whole hispanic thing). 500,000 is usually my limit for overnight stay.

Oh side note: Report on the massage in SAIGON BOWL

It's located on the road coming out from the airport in that giant shopping center, every taxi driver should know where it is.

Nice massage, though their jacuzzi was broken last time i was there. Make sure to get yourself nice and clean because the girls wont go BBBJ on you if they think you're not clean.

Good service, although it did take a little convincing for my girls to do it bc they do mostly HJ. I gave her 200,000 for BBBJ. It should not cost you more than that.

So head over there if you feel like a little bowling, some cheap beers, and a night cap.

Oh it's to the right of the disco/bar on the 2nd floor.

[Albalvr]

Checked out the Caesar last night in District 5. Had many beauties all between 18 and 22. In my opinion well worth the extra money rather than going for the street girls. Also you might want to get friendly with a taxi or moto driver, they will keep you supplied with many young girls, most of them don't work in bars or on the street.

[Saigon Sam]

Hey Ball44,

What a nightmare! It could have been alot worse. I had a friend from Hong Kong who had all his money and his wife's jewelry stolen (was drinking the night before). Worst of all, his wife came back from a trip to Vung Tau early and did not tell him. The maid had no choice but to let the wife in! The wife caught the girl inside the house but at the time she did not know the jewelry and the guys wallet as in her bag already. In the end his wife left him! So, there you go, your situation could have been much worse! Anyway, glad you you only lost 6 mil!

[El Frances]

Ball 44

Pham Ngu Lao girls often steal (that's the bad side of being cheaper than in Dong Khoi area). I remember one time as I had locked all my valuables, a Pham Ngu Lao girl stole me my remaining condoms!

Apart from putting your valuables in a safe place, always make sure that the reception guy only lets the girl go after you have said it's OK.

[Ball44]

I've read about it before, but it's never happened to me until now. I met a couple of cuties outside of Sahara the other night. It was late, maybe 3 am or so on a Thursday night, I was getting ready to go home. But when I say these two, I couldn't resist.

She ask how much for both of em, and I told her 800,000 dong for the night. She agrees. So we go back to my place. As soon as they get in they start snooping around. She ask for the money upfront (first mistake), I give her 800,000 and she gives me the "I thought you meant $80 routine. I had to bargain again, and ended up giving her 900,000 dong.

So we showered, got a nice sponge bath from the both of them, nothing like having two soapy honeys rubbing you down. Anyway, we got to the action. One of them, was too sensative for me to even touch. You know the kind, ticklish as hell. Her box wasn't ticklish though, so she went first. Her friend though, she was so my type. Medium height, but really thin with small tits and little nips. She went second. I finally blow my load, while her friend was out on my balacony smoking. I passed out after that (second mistake).

I woke up the next morning around 7:30 (luckily), only to wonder why my alarm didn't go off. Then I realized my phone was missing. Then I remembered I had guests last night(did I mention I was drinking???). I was like "oh shit". Checked for my walled, luckily I had the sense to hide it, not very well, but hidden enough. So I still had it, but I was light my cell phone and a brand new electronic dictionary.
So work to the wise, lock your valuables up, or lock them in.

I found out that they left around 6 a.m. rather suspiciously. The attendant said that they both come down, one got on the bike, and the other went back up (to steal my stuff). I have thier license plate of thier bike from the attendant, but their isn't much I can do with it. I can't explain to the cops why I brought two girls to my apartment at 3 a.m..

So the night cost me 900,000 plus 6,000,000 in stolen goods. I'm sure I'll run into them again sooner or later....but....i'm not sure what i'll do if I do.

Ball44

[Saigon Sam]

Sounds like Sahara club in Pham Nhu Lao.

The rest of the info is mostly useless (albiet amusing) newbie trash. $50 take out price at Monkey Bar! What the hell is that all about? Mamasan tripling the price for a newbie? Then again, no wonder at that pathetic rip-off bia om 50 feet around the corner from the stupid overpriced luxury Caravelle Hotel and its wornout old hag Saigon-Saigon bar. Did the hags blurt out "hundred dollah honey" or maybe "million dong for you," last second offers. What BS! How's that for cynicism after decade of repeated forays in and out and all over VN...

The VN archive here is full valuable info about thumbs down Monkey Bar and similar scams and BS. Apparently, many never read the archives but just take the mostly blind newbie tourist plunge, without heeding the repeated warnings. Hey, live and learn and pay the price - often big time rip-off prices!

Hey Asiaphile, I'm not saying I agree with you about the "newbie trash" but I have seen many many people paying prices that are twice or 3 times the norm. Yes, I do agree that by paying more it drives prices up. This was exactly what happend 10 years ago when the Japanese and Taiwanese started overpaying. However, I don't think the info people provide is "useless" as you say. Not everyone comes here just for information. Reading about peoples adventures is interesting too. I'm assuming that you are a long time resident in HCMC so you know how things work. Some people just aren't here long enough to get to know the girls who will accept 200k for the night or even free sometimes. Its not like it was 10 years ago. I think to get a decent girl with a good attitude (from an expat bar) for the night is at least 500k (30US) or more now. Xich Lo drivers pay 50k but would you sleep with 50k girls even if it was for free? Probably not. Well, if you know of a good place where the girls will take 200k for the night, let us know!

[Ozirob]

Aren't all the bar's prices and styles a case of "different strokes for different folks"? During my trips I've been happy to try as many bars as I can, in the full expectation that some will be straight rip-off, some will offer great views and breeze at a high price, some will have great girls that you can't touch (during their work hours), and some will have great girls that you can touch.

I've got no doubt that on my next trip I'll end up at all of the above styles of bar, and i'll enjoy every minute. Even getting ripped off can be a lot of fun sometimes. Don't get hung up with judgements - just enjoy the ride(s)

Can't wait for next trip!

Ozirob